War on the Sea - Tokyo Express Mod || USN Campaign || Ep.14 - Everyone Gets a Torpedo!!

[@madwardancer]

Port Moresby Dauntless pilots are this series' MVPs.

[@Ray-zh8os]

Imagine the PTSD they must have

[@zhicaofang2354]

Best fleet maneuver and use of torpedoes so far! 20:30 That immediate manual launch when the T was crossed by the Japanese flotilla forced the enemy to turn a sharp angel, and 21:35 the swing movement of your own fleet immediately crossed the T. Those two moves changed the entire setup of the surface battle.

[@ramal5708]

Yeah, but it sucks sometimes that the Torps will be a dud like in real life. Typical USN torps

[@jefferynelson]

your comment ensured I rewatch the video

[@ramal5708]

You get a torpedo, you get a torpedo, you get a torpedo *Everyone gets a Torpedo!*

[@arhanrahi9221]

I sense some oversimplified fan.

[@weylinwest9505]

@@arhanrahi9221 OOHH NNOO!

[@weylinwest9505]

@Clint Hardnips Should've been 'ere 7 months ago!

[@isaacjohn4055]

14:10 *OSHA doing an inspection of the ship that day* "I'm pretty sure torpedoes on fire are kind of a hazard, I mean surely that can't be safe"

[@seanholt4437]

I think having a light cruiser with sonar capabilities in amongst the heavies will help spot those torpedoes a lot earlier. At least that's what I've found to work the best. I try and turn on sonor when I think torps r in the water and it seems to help.

[@PerfectDeath4]

not sure if active sonar detects torpedoes, thats normally a passive sonar thing. Atlantas usually have sonar and depth charges, and I believe the Mahans have the best passive.

[@seanholt4437]

@@PerfectDeath4 yeah I'm not sure about that but I do it anyways 😂. I always have an Atlanta class in the middle of my heavies and that seems to have helped me a lot whether it's active or passive idk for sure.

[@PerfectDeath4]

@@seanholt4437 Ship speed will also reduce its ability to listen in hydrophones for subs, so maybe that also effects detecting torpedoes as well?

[@seanholt4437]

@@PerfectDeath4 IRL that is definitely true, whether that is part of the game I don't know for sure but it would make a lot of sense. In battle I always try and keep my heavies a but slower like around 15-20 knots so that could be part of it as well. I did get caught once and I had no warning hardly at all but in that instance I didn't have an Atlanta class in my lineup. So that is why I always just assumed that it's sonor whether passive or active helped but I honestly do not know.

[@PerfectDeath4]

@@seanholt4437 yeah I know it is harder to detect subs while moving fast and sometimes the active sonar causes me to lose contact with the sub almost as if it makes too much noise? Not sure how active is implemented in game, IRL it was a frontal cone for most ships. =\

[@GaldirEonai]

Wow, the way you kept bullying that escort group with planes was almost like a World of Warships game :P.

[@trekaddict]

If it had been that, his planes would have been shot out of the sky with 100% accuracy and each loss would have removed ten command points.

[@billmuller6133]

Planes being shot down in wows? I am afraid but I think that is just a myth.

[@max-imal8588]

@@billmuller6133 It is definitly a myth!

[@trekaddict]

I used to play a lot of CV, and trust me, the recent AA boost made carriers worse than useless.

[@billmuller6133]

@trekchu ever played with/played against fdr or better yet against the new soviet t10 cv?

[@winghungyuen2726]

Mark 14 torpedoes actually functioning properly? Inconceivable! In all seriousness, that was a great night battle you pulled off there.

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

The machine spirits have been appeased before the battle.

[@PhoenixT70]

He was complaining (understandably) about how bad the American fish were in the first couple episodes, and all I could think was "Yep, you can thank BuOrd for that."

[@sse_weston4138]

Fubuki's final charge reminds me of the real end to destroyer Hatsuzuki during the Battle of Cape Engano

[@riedeverett103]

Agreed lol

[@firestorm165]

4:20 Japanese destroyers of that type have duel purpose armament, meaning their turrets can load and fire AA rounds

[@samuelsexton7375]

Greatest birthday gift ever; thanks for making my day, Wolfpack!

[@12askeland231]

Happy birthday!

[@danielturbide8554]

Happy Birthday!

[@lhop9583]

Happy Bday!

[@randomsomewhat-kinda-quasi1065]

Happy birthday

[@banzeyegaming2234]

Happy bday!

[@Kyle-en6ez]

im in love with this series everytime wolfpack uploads❤

[@HunterTeddy010]

Aw YES, Manual torps! Get those hits! Oh, they juuuust dodged.

[@martindhautefeuille9155]

this is so great, its like a board game but with visual effects

[@kylieeeza]

war on the sea! Definitely top contender for me with the 1968 cold waters campaign cheers wp keep em comin!

[@danielrivard9335]

great tactical engagement, nice torpedo work; a definite win.

[@leftylongrifle9074]

Just in time for lunch break once again!

[@mhuss7197]

Always like watching Wolfpack’s videos.

[@misterangel8486]

Damn I love this series.😎👍 Thx Wolfpack 🙏

[@MatteonixITA]

*Bro you don't know how much i like this series it's sad that it takes you about 2 Hours if not more to just get the vid then alot of more hours to Edit : (*

[@Jake-qz5uf]

That battle was awesome and very fun to watch! I am always excited when I see a new video in this series!

[@mercator79]

YES! Another so quick - love this series

[@jonathanmarshall3974]

Has Killerfish hinted at any improvement to ship damage models? Right now sections just get darker and turrets point the wrong way if they're knocked out. Seems to me like there's a huge opportunity to improve damage effects.

[@nostrildamusmctavish5542]

The game is still being modified… Seems like if a Momi crosses the path of a Kongo, the graphics should show her being cut in half…

[@timjerrom7173]

Of course Wolfpack to me you are my version of my dad's war films, keep up the fantastic show's "and can't wait to see what will be your next Sub command in Silent Hunter :)

[@PerfectDeath4]

I havn't seen you detect any of the IJN transport fleets, they seem to send quite a few, maybe one every 1-2 days.

[@benwelch4076]

Hell you, torps for the win! I love hearing you get into the game, I was rooting for you the entire time.

[@bjornelfstrom8938]

The Divebombers is realy nerfed or the destroyers is greatly buffed

[@yournamehere9928]

Bombs in general got nerfed. Dauntlesses can only carry 1000lb SAP and AP bombs, which do less damage than the GP 1000 lb they previously carried, but I think the GP bomb got nerfed, too.

[@JaamesJohnson]

IJN Val's are even worse, a wing of dauntless's will reliably sink a DD if you send the whole wing on one target... However an entire Wing of Val's needs 2-3 try's to sink one target and well your not going to be able to re arm and fly to target three times before it escapes lol..... IJN has to rely on the Kates and they are easy to shoot down.... However the American Avengers have the american dud torpedo problem and typically the Dauntless is the american crutch....

[@chrisworkman5288]

Very good video, manual launch of torpedoes was great.

[@Dv087]

Sensitive so hard to sink ships with this mod you may want to rethink using B-17s for bombing missions.

[@do9032]

Saddest note, well folks that's it for another one. Well done Wolfpack, Keeping em coming

[@bjorntrollgesicht1144]

Ah, that's why I always prefer to bunch my aircraft up on a single target, rather than dispersing. The argument is statistical: assuming the same three sorties, you've sank one destroyer by dispersing and potentially sank three by Dauntlesses alone by focusing on a single target each time and just making sure it's dead. Plus, sinking reduces flak and less flak=fewer losses=more bombs thrown around=more kills=more points. I've learned this from you! Or am I missing something? Your seamanship in the surface battle was glorious. You've reformed your battle line to an advantageous position, moved your DDs forward, launched your torps in a cross pattern to ensure hits regardless of evasion, broke the enemy's line in the process and picked them off with guns, while they had to dodge (and eat!) fish. Also notice, that unlike your previous battles, you did not try to escape, but aggressively went forward with a full intent to kill- this has rendered you infinitely better results and fewer losses. Those are very complex, 4d chess-tier tactics right there- I need to use those in my own engagements!

[@marksoler7338]

Would love to see a sub stalk their carrier!

[@gequitz]

Great Battle! Hope that helps secure Guadalcanal soon.

[@angrypandaification]

Awesome fight and video, that was awesome.

[@worstr6playerna211]

still an amazing episode all things considered

[@jamesvanderpoel2135]

Absolutely love your content Wolfpack as always amazing job.

[@chemix3813]

How many torpedoes can you shoot? Wolfpack: Yes 😂👌🏻

[@dmaggio4011]

great fight..... in my playthrough.... the Japanese tried to take Rennell Is but i beat them there..... over the last three weeks they have attempted repeated assaults.... i have to keep a SAG in the region to respond if needed... very fun indeed....

[@jamesblackmer1191]

I get excited every time I pull up KZbin and see you have a new video.

[@thisherehandleIdospout]

21:27 "Loo-ee-ville" *shudder* I guess I should just be glad you didn't say something batsh*t crazy like 'Lewis-ville', LOL 😅

[@AgentSmurf420]

I wanna see a cursed image of a dauntless carrying a torpedo.

[@scavoukian]

That was friggin Awesome!!!!

[@ditzy_neko3362]

PS, i would LOVE to see you with the Battleship Nevada.

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

Pennsylvania...

[@smc1942]

Line Ahead with Destroyers leading is better than a battle line formation. Use the last destroyer in line to fire starshells. Light Cruisers next, and heavys in the rear. This makes it easier to split off your Destroyers for torpedo attacks, while targeting enemy DDs with gunfire, and lets your Cruisers focus on theirs. Also, the bigger the gun, the longer the range! Another reason to put your heavy cruisers (CA) in the rear, and the Light Cruisers (CL) in front of them. And Lights can do better at detecting torpedoes!

[@morrischen5777]

Really good ingage! mannal torping seems help a lot certainly!

[@daveb.4383]

Nice to see your finally allowing AP rounds to be used seeing most war ships had extra armor to protect them and the HE rounds were only good for setting fires and getting magazines to explode most times!

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Loved the video @Wolfpack345! Can't wait for the next video man! Glad to see USS Quincy and USS Louisville getting to the Frontlines now. The Japanese must be Down bad for them to be sending 2 Seaplane Tenders into a Night Action off The Florida's LMAO!

[@ditzy_neko3362]

Wolfpack I would love to see you play a survival campaign in SH4 using a surface ship of your choice. There are many IJN, Kriegsmarine and Allied naval surface ships to choose from on SubSim. Example: i have played the KMS Admiral Ruko (a Deutschland class Cruiser like Admiral Scheer), for years and its pretty awesome to be the lone raider in the Indian.

[@CallMeMark_]

Another lovely video. Thanks Wolf!

[@depow5217]

Awesome torpedo attack!

[@haydenc2742]

Man one heck of a slugfest! I think regular HE works best on the destroyers Keep em coming!!!

[@philiphied]

Yeah ..torps actually worked in this game for once. They aren't poopy flavored lollipops.

[@andrewchubbuck5878]

Hey Wolfpack, I know Wildcats with rockets are pretty effective against DDs

[@isd_chimaera8335]

There’s actually no rockets in TTE, as they were not available at the time of the campaign

[@f-35enjoyer59]

@@isd_chimaera8335 and I believe it was the Avengers that carried them not wildcats

[@danhaas9730]

@@isd_chimaera8335 It depends. There is an optional addon that comes with the mod that adds the rocket option back in.I've used them myself, and the'yre quite effective.

[@sarnxero2628]

32:52 Start listening from there and at 32:56 you can hear a cat 🐈

[@sarnxero2628]

Or I'm crazy 😧🤣

[@sweerts4580]

Best Radio Show since the war of the worlds...!

[@t.a.ackerman4098]

When I read the title it reminded me of the "Oprah Winfrey Show". Torpedoes for everyone. Lol

[@papasmurfette007]

Look under your seat. There's a Mark 14 for everyone! It's okay to touch them, they probably won't explode...

[@WWXspartan058]

If only YT didn't make dark videos look like ass lol. Great episode though!

[@tankerkiller3331]

Wolfpack, you sank the only Japanese Shimakaze class destroyer the fastest and best torpedo armed destroyer the IJN ever had

[@brokenwolf2568]

And the biggest with a length of 130meters

[@acun4075]

Not sure if you know this you prolly do but the two buttons under your list of ships on the left, one selects air or sea units the other selects all of the units in that list, I usually click on the top unit then hit the plus symbol it selects them all easier.

[@bluestorm3628]

I name this battle, Thank God My Torpedos Finally Did There Job!

[@ryanhampson673]

Mos tof the US guns were dual purpose so could fire anti surface and also flak rounds but I recently learned that 8in and ever the main battleship 16in guns also had flak shells...I visited the USS Alabama a while back and the fire control computers were crazy advanced for the time and the 5 , 8 and even 16 inch main guns could accurately fire on squadrons of planes

[@nostrildamusmctavish5542]

Two Nisshins sunk, but only one was built. 13,000 tons, 6 5.5 inch guns, making her tougher in the main armament than a typical modern IJN destroyer, excepting torpedoes of course. Congrats on getting 13 points from an alternate history. Love this game, but it has its weirdities.

[@moalzaben5554]

Awesome vid, nice tactics wolf

[@mikeace7775]

I think it would be best to get a escort carrier soon for some behind enemy line ops or for cap/cover for cargo ships moving in and out of Guadalcanal

[@kornerstoretelevision]

Also your torpedo attack was superb

[@FUZZYs114]

Just 2 days after his last release, making my day off worth it

[@tbnist03]

Love the meow at 32:58

[@SporksINTL]

This is rare youtube gold

[@kaneable7310]

Why not attack from the stern to the bow? Wouldnt it presents fewer guns shooting anti-air? and higher percentage of hits.

[@yournamehere9928]

Wolfpack has tested this a few times in his Japanese campaign, and attacking from stern to bow, at best, was about as effective as attacking from the side. But often times, it was actually worse than attacking from the side.

[@kaneable7310]

@@yournamehere9928 thank you. I guess side attack gives you a chance of bombs hitting because the wing bombs and the main are dropped "in line" with the ship side.

[@EminenceFrontX5]

Great episode. More!!

[@roustfool961]

Amazing content as usual!

[@michaelpham8368]

Alternative title: Super Smash Bros Ultimate Free For All: WW2 Edition!

[@georgecox806]

Question is it possible to just regulate the B-17s as anti-shipping roles and have them skip-bomb? (if skip-bombing is a thing in War on the sea)

[@fear-is-a-token]

It is a thing, however, B-17s will be too vulnerable for AA while doing this, I think

[@emperorSbraz]

a torpedo hit on the bow of a ship is one of the worst places to get hit by a torpedo despite often being a vaguely empty space with no critical or fire-prone systems as it will have literal boatloads of water flowing inside due to the ship inertia pushing the hole into the water in addition to the static water pressure. additionally a dropped bow will limit the ship speed because of the added drag leading to lower maneuverability and ultimately to a sitting duck situation.

[@hogandonahue9598]

Glorious victory for the entire episode, very nice.

[@richardkiser3228]

Use Avengers with rockets to get rid of the DD's. You can do a side on or rear approach to get the best bang for your buck. It's funny, I'm on my second playthrough and have never had anything attack Port Morsby. I have finally learned how to do the manual torpedoes and gunnery. Well it's still a bit shaky but it's mostly working. I have been enjoying your videos and it was the main reason I bought the game. Maybe you should get a commission from the game developer for your promotional videos. Oh BTW for anyone interested. Do Not Save The Game in the middle of an engagement. There is a bug that will reload the same ships. You will notice that you will suddenly have 2 of the same ships used in the engagement. The enemy will also have the same ships. You cannot sink the ghost ships. The only thing you can do is hope you have a good save to fall back on or start over. There is a discussion about this on the forum. I had this happen to me on the first playthrough and thankfully I had a good save from a few hours before.

[@Spitfire_1940]

"FYET SPREADS" Lol

[@MajChronic]

Just an FYI.....for more hits and fewer misses when dropping bombs, drop parallel to the ships course as opposed to perpendicular. The only time you want to drop perpendicular is when dropping torpedoes.

[@boraeananaren]

He has tested this and while in real life it would be true, the game doesn't seem to reflect it.

[@garyhendershot9153]

Battleships are great, but what you desperately need is the big E! At this higher difficulty, I don't know how you do it without a CV...

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

Is he not allowing himself any Capital ships?

[@ramal5708]

Are you using the newest TTE mod? With new P-38 and A6M5 aircraft and US Standard Battleships, Escort Carriers

[@imamage]

I don't know if the WotS mod have model this but in Kancolle the "Seaplane Tender" can transport quite much troops and supplies. I guess maybe this is the group that just resupply Guadalcanal......

[@comraderoman4299]

What's the intro music? It's absolutely incredible! Good job wolfpack! :D

[@f-35enjoyer59]

Any tips to get your solution/accuracy up, having trouble with that.

[@PerfectDeath4]

One way is to use spotting fire, so the ships will wait until the shells they fire land before firing again as that gives a short boost to solution. Smoke and bad weather will also mess with solution. I'm not sure if other ships/guns firing at same target reduce solution, it historically did and is simulated in some naval strategy games like Rule the Waves 2. Enemy ships moving sill also cause solution problems as will moving your own ships. Top speed and sea state will also effect it. I'd recommend practicing manual gun firing, its really accurate once you get the hang of it, almost cheating tbh and you can tunnel vision easy. =P

[@revenanlone8974]

You need to go from front or back with dives not from side. Its harder miss full leght of the ship like her width

[@Lowkeh]

It's the other way around in this _game_ because of how the planes do their attack pattern 'tis silly, aye, but it is what it is.

[@harmonicadude4732]

Next time you bully destroyers try HE bombs.

[@steventessitore3246]

well done, sir.

[@JessWLStuart]

Well played!

[@Palehorae20]

I am curious as to why you are not upgrading rennal Island. Seems likes you have to go to far to rearm and repair. Having a strong airfield there would be helpful in dealing with enemy surface groups

[@ceutermark8271]

My guess it has something to do with ai subs patrolling that area but I dont know for sure.

[@colonelmustang7642]

destroyer number 4 looked like a Shimakaze class. a very dangerous DD against your surface fleet.

[@brokenwolf2568]

Yes, but they only have one as only one were built.

[@brokenwolf2568]

But could also be a Akatsuki or a Fubuki, didnt look at the launchers

[@colonelmustang7642]

@@brokenwolf2568 neither one of those ships had 3 quintuple torpedo launchers that you saw on that ship. Also in this game clearly if he wanted he could build as many ships he wanted as long as he gets the Command points, I would think that applies to the AI as well.

[@brokenwolf2568]

@@colonelmustang7642 Only the ships built are accessable but Shimakaze was build in 1944 I think so it isnt even in the game just like Iowa

[@kornerstoretelevision]

Good video Pack!!! Playing as the US 🇺🇸 is dope compared to the Japanese

[@Beelow15]

IDK if the idea has already been pitched but you should try like a challenge of "only subs" or something after this series is over. I cant get enough of this game ma. :)

[@aceofspadesattorney]

More seaplane tenders sunk! Whittling down the (theoretical in this case) Japanese air power! (:

[@thebaron6481]

In the recent TTE versions, the seaplane tenders works as light carriers, deploying Jake as dive bombers a squadrons and Rufe for CAP missions.

[@spawntrooper]

i noticed that you have a free base at C6 so why not have a few fleets in that area take it , and then have aircraft and ships from there ths more fire power. also having a aircraft carrier would be a idea

[@rblum100]

Posted this on 13 and 14 in hope to get my questions answered… Thanks and great videos. I have two tactical strategy questions, and one question about Mods. These questions are pretty basic so please bear with me. 1. I understand that the optimal torpedo attack is perpendicular to the target ship as this presents the largest target. But what about dive bombing? There seems to me to be two advantages to attacking aft to fore on the target rather than a beam attack, in that the target is “In sights” longer. Also, only aft anti a can defend. In a beam attack, both fore and aft AA can fire both on the way in and on the way out. Plus if the attack is in the direction of the center of formation, all of the other ships get to bang away as well. Am I missing something? 2, Does attacking “out of the sun” offer any advantage to the attacking aircraft in the game? And finally: 3. Where does one acquire the mods. I checked the steam website and there is no button to download any mods?

[@troopers101]

Use rockets on destroyers with avengers! 3 planes per ship knocks them out quick. Unless you are going for realism, then continue with what you’re doing.

[@PerfectDeath4]

TTE mod by default removes avenger rockets, because the USN didn't arm avengers with those at this point in the war. There is a sub mod on TTE that adds the rockets back in.

[@thebaron6481]

@@PerfectDeath4 in the next version, 4.0v the rockets are back to the mod.However they will not be used by the AI since they didn't exist in 42 but the player is free to use them if they wish without the need in using any submod.

[@danmacneil1895]

The game isn't pushing hard enough or putting him into a situation of spot decision making! Thats when you make or break!

[@ultrawing5637]

I love this series and these tactics perfect, but your pronouncing Louisville wrong, i know it seems strange but just put in louisville in google translate and play it and it will sound correct! Just wanted to give a heads up since thats where i live but continue the great work!

[@therawksaw2135]

Attacking the rear of the convoy keeps most of the guns off you hit the last ship pull away from the fleet and not go through that gauntlet of AA

[@darksideknight33x85]

I love you Wolfpack. ❤️

[@vf-114jock2]

Torpedoes as party favors - whooda thunkit? ( Every one gets a torpedo )

[@davidbiren2062]

Bomb hits where torpedoes are present would be catastrophic. See Mikuma.