Wonder Egg Said Trans Rights

[@BriChihaya]

Since this is still getting views two years later, I'm gonna add that I am actually non-binary. When making this video I hadn't figured that out yet, and as I hadn't started through my own journey of confronting my gender my disclaimer still stands. I still cannot claim to know what it is like for transgender men and women as everyone's experience is different and as a cis passing non-binary person I have not had to deal with the same kind of discrimination a lot of my friends in this community have. This does not change the content of the video, but it is important to me. If you're reading this thank you and I hope you have a great day

[@heymomm1922]

ur a woman

[@lexi.x.o.x.o]

omg congrats on figuring yourself out!!

[@diegomo1413]

You can tell Kaoru is really a boy. Stealing a kiss from a pretty girl, then immediately disappearing from existence is every boy’s dream. My man did it!

[@bowlinbowlinbowlin]

A true chad, ngl

[@herasyed4564]

LOLOLOL a true lad

[@joestrr4772]

Real men shit

[@Madhulikayaps]

Man moment

[@idonotcare4931]

LMAOO

[@danicatempleton6745]

I think it's important to note that what Haruka did to Momoe was sexual assault and *that's* the reason sexual assault keeps coming up in her eggs. To expand on this, Haruka literally undressed in front of Momoe and placed her hand on her breast and said "touch me". That same phrase "touch me" comes up again from the people in her eggs, and it triggers a flashback.

[@lain3798]

I just noticed thanks to this comment

[@inalnaa]

hows the other triggers like rika, ai ,neiru why neiru always get the weird one please tell ms

[@lain3798]

@@inalnaa which flashback from neiru?

[@inalnaa]

@@lain3798 idrk put please explain to me especially neiru's whats her backstory or smth she get the weirdest egg and i dont get it at all 😭😭

[@inalnaa]

@@lain3798 idrk put please explain to me especially neiru's whats her backstory or smth she get the weirdest egg and i dont get it at all 😭😭

[@petal2283]

I like how Kaoru's jacket has the transgender colors i just love the details💖

[@expiredfood9632]

EXACLY

[@an1k_623]

YESSSS I LOVED IT AS WELL!

[@smellyransom]

was it not meant to be a trans jacket? 😭

[@ananyanyan]

Ikr thats the first thing I noticed

[@Nico-xi5rn]

I actually think that ai might be our token wlw, there are a lot of sapphic undertones in her relationship with koito and her relationship with neiru. I think that she probably has feelings for one or both of these girls but doesn't want to admit it.

[@minegagadoli]

Well... Thats better than having feelings for the teacher 👀

[@Nico-xi5rn]

@@minegagadoli i think she does also have feelings for the teacher, but nothing will come out of that, and if smth does.... lets just say it will make me very ✨uncomfy✨

[@minegagadoli]

@@Nico-xi5rn At least the dream fights made her stronger in real life, so she is capable of beating the shit out of the teacher if something happens

[@user-tx9eg4tc8o]

You're so right about ai possibly being sapphic I saw a video about the symbolism in the flowers that appear in the show and in some scenes with ai and koito there are lilies which are used for sapphic love

[@user-tx9eg4tc8o]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXVhnyohLBol8k this is the video

[@bigoreoenergy3123]

I really love how Wonder Egg Propriety pulls off especially for trans representation. And that's coming from a cisgender bi gal. I seriously can't wait for season 2. I wish I want to know more about Momoe.

[@stephanieyeager1356]

Same :D

[@esqandardan]

mind telling me what is cisgender?, i know the meaning of bi, but i dont know whats the meaning of cisgender

[@emmauwu1474]

@@esqandardan if you identify as the gender you are born with you are cis gender. So if you are not trans gender you are cis gender. (:

[@bigoreoenergy3123]

@@esqandardan Cisgender means someone who is identified based on their birth assignment. For example, I was born female and I still identified myself as female today.

[@esqandardan]

so almost same meaning as straight?

[@konata736]

Isn't Momoe's struggle that she is CIS gender but because she doesn't present herself in the traditionally feminine way no one accepts her as such though. I don't think Momoe is a trans character but that Kaoru's experience is the same but in the opposite way, that's why their kiss was the first one that was genuine since Momoe does accept Kaoru as a boy.

[@kiraly_stuff]

It is heavily implied that Momo is a trans girl, not only story-wise but with so many details throughout the series. If she was a cis girl, she wouldn't have any reason to introduce herself as a boy with the name 'Momotaro' to the Egg girls. As a trans girl though, she uses her dead name because she might be afraid of being judged and ridiculed for being trans. She's also constantly mistaken for a boy, which would be pretty unlikely if she just presented herself in a tomboyish manner. Also, it's a lot less likely for her to go through such extreme dysphoria if it was just about her getting mistaken for a boy if she was cis.

[@itsozzy1378]

@@kiraly_stuff But isn't it literally disproven for her to be a boy in the universe? Only girls can be there since girl and boy suicides are based on different things (according to the Accas) Furthermore, Kaoru is a boy, yes, but he was placed with the girls, so by that logic, Momo should be with boys as well if that were the case...

[@kiraly_stuff]

@@itsozzy1378Of course Momo is a girl, what are you trying to say? And when it comes to Kaoru, I believe he was placed in Momo's egg because they understand eachother's struggles despite being of the opposite gender. I don't think everything in the show should be taken literally, when it comes to the two Accas.

[@shaneross739]

@@kiraly_stuff I would doubt if Momo is a trans girl in the show in a literal sense. Since there are scenes like Ai and Rika checking whether Momo have throat knots. And if Momo is a trans girl she would probably have prominent throat knots unless she's on hormone blockers, and this was never presented or even hinted. Also the world setting is not like She-ra or Faking it that people treat LGBT way different from rl that being a trans should be and would be an issue in case of Kaoru, Momo being a trans girl should have been brought up more instead of left with simply hints(Also how Kauru is treated proves that Creators are able and willing to directly show Trans Characters instead of simply hinting ). Momo being a cis girl who has a masculine gender expression and is troubled for treated as a boy is in my opinion what requires less theory and has more proves in the show. Though I do think the subtext of Momo is about transgender issue, and the cis mistreated as the unwanted gender stuff is a euphemism for the creators are not willing to tab in a transgender lead(which I wouldn't blame them in any way since they do have good representation with Kaoru and this euphemism works. And that's already better than most trans representation we are getting in pop culture)

[@itsozzy1378]

@@kiraly_stuff That is a fair point, but at the same time, she literally doesn't have an Adam's apple. And is also seen in a girl school uniform, highly doubt they'd let her in if she was trans. (To clarify, a big thing in Japan is to not stand out) It's somewhat upsetting that characters that have an androgynous look are immediately assumed by others to be trans or something of that liking, don't get me wrong, I support representation in media, but that goes for everyone. Those who look androgynous too. I've seen a lot of people actually upset because of others assuming she's trans, even trans people themselves. I think she's just a cisgender female who has an androgynous look, and because of said look is misgendered constantly- that's her struggle. And I think calling her trans or anything other than what she is defeats her character. I support the LGBTQ+ community, I'm gonna have to say, I think she's just a girl who gets misgendered.

[@hayleesobey7909]

I don't usually like straight romance but these two, these two I love

[@Z_pixel]

Same

[@jordan9503]

but shes not straight lol shes a girl that likes girls.

[@hayleesobey7909]

@@jordan9503 Momoe is a girl and Kaoru is a boy, they like each other and kiss so in the definition of straight (liking the opposite gender) they're straight

[@jordan9503]

@@hayleesobey7909 buy shes clearly a girl ? didnt the accas say that there wouldn't be any boys in the egg world because the circumstances involving boys suicides were difrent than girls ? you know women being more emotional ? yall being confusing as hell referring to a clearly female character as male just because she thinks she is . theoretically no boys can be in the egg world for the reason i stated above so this child is clearly suffering from gender dysphoria .

[@hayleesobey7909]

@@jordan9503 All right buddy youobviously didn't UNDER stand how gay wonder egg is and neither understand a thing about being trans. But I'm not gonna get into all that and just tell you Momoe is also trans.

[@maddieatkinson1527]

the comments denying shes trans are so annoying. its so obvious its crazy to me how anyone could think shes cis

[@maddieatkinson1527]

@@MG-ql8sg shes very clearly trans coded, if you cant see that ur probably just transphobic. im not even trans and its extremely obvious to me, trans women arent reading into anything they are just interpreting the media right in front of them

[@JNellyBoi]

I'm gonna be honest, I thought she was just an androgenous girl who had gender dysphoria wanting to be seen as a girl. I might've missed something in the show, but that's how I interpreted her character

[@andrewmildenberg4210]

Trans and cis are two different things though. Cis just means straight. You can be trans and gay.

[@JNellyBoi]

@@andrewmildenberg4210Cis doesn't mean straight, but it's very associated with it. Cis just means your gender conforms the same as your sex at birth

[@andrewmildenberg4210]

@@JNellyBoi ohhhhh, got it.

[@tobiandkaleena]

ok but like did anyone else notice that haruka's scrunchie has the pan flag colors on it in this scene? 5:00

[@misshope8297]

YES! THANK YOU! That's why she says she doesn't care of Momoe's gender. Problem being she didn't take in account phrasing it that way would seem as if she was invalidating Momoe being a girl and not a boy.

[@tobiandkaleena]

@@misshope8297 I thought the same thing! she got her point across but missed the mark different phrasing would have saved a bit of the misunderstanding there!

[@GameVeteran86]

I found this a rather enlightening video. As a cisgendered, straight, white man, I obviously can’t claim to truly understand the experiences and struggles of the LGBT community, but I make it a point to educate myself on these matters so I can better empathize with them. I think you’ve really helped me out to better understand. So I thank you for that.

[@akumu9301]

Imagine stating your race and sexuality as if it mattered, lol

[@sydmina]

@@akumu9301 huh, it did in this context?

[@akumu9301]

@@sydmina no, it didn't.

[@itsasecret7409]

@@akumu9301 Huh? I fail to see the issue with mentioning the gender, sex, and race with the op's comment. It somehow explains why the op is inexperienced with LGBT topics and why this video helped him. I am guessing that you are worried about the overgeneralizations of cis, straight, white men with not being knowledgeable about LGBT?

[@commentateur-connaisseur-c1414]

@@akumu9301 It matters. The end.

[@enbybunny6827]

I don't mean to offend anyone but I feel like Momoe is a girl (cis) who is often mistaken for a boy due to her androgynous appearance. I really liked how Kaoru was there and made her realise people struggled with a problem which was actually the opposite. Even when Momoe was confused in the start, she respected Kaoru and learned something new that day.

[@idonotcare4931]

yup

[@vexorianite5785]

yep, agreed.

[@enbybunny6827]

@@vexorianite5785 Ayyy Yosano XD

[@vexorianite5785]

@@enbybunny6827 ayy :D

[@florencebutterfly]

Exactly

[@yaboi98]

Wait wait im a transboy and I got the Kaoru thing pretty quickly but like im pretty sure Momoe is cis I've rewatched the ep like 5 times where does it says that she's a transgirl?

[@omumafu6346]

ty, she is cis and the hc is very harmful imo - trans person

[@poshcat4380]

yeah she’s cis but people head canon that she’s trans which is really irritating

[@sweeteacat]

I’m pretty sure she’s a cis tomboy since when she’s shown in school where I assume they’d be more strict, she’s wearing a skirt. But, when she’s outside of school and gets to choose what she wears she’s dressing more masculine.

[@yaboi98]

@@poshcat4380 I don't agree with the part that it's irritating. Tbf, we can assume that she is cis and it's the highest likelihood but there's not definitive proof (unless they state it that outright or we get shown her birth certificate lmao no way) that she ISN'T trans, so people can feel free to head-cannon whatever they want since it doesn't directly contradict the source material. Even though I think she was meant to be cis, I believe Momoe is a heavily trans-coded character, and if people want to headcannon that she is trans, I think we can respect it since its literally not harming anyone

[@yaboi98]

@@omumafu6346 by hc you mean headcannon? I personally don't see the issuem can you explain how it is harmful?

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

As a transgender man ftm seeing representation means alot. No matter how big or small. I'm glad they did not deny Kaoru's identity as a boy . I'm glad they didn't deny Momo-chan's identity as a girl . Too many times in media I see characters be denied of their identity, not just in Anime & Manga, but even in games too unfortunately.

[@pretzel5202]

as a trans dude i love how momo reacted to kaoru coming out bc its pretty realistic since all the friends ive came out to were more supportive then any adult has been i love wep sm

[@yaboi98]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS I did not expect a transboi but fuck it hit me hard im so glad Kaoru is my favourite

[@diasgith]

I haven't watched or heard of this anime yet, but it's definitely on my bucket list now! Thank you for this video, I enjoyed it ^^

[@needsmoretacos4807]

Great show for the first 2/3 or 3/4 and then utterly falls apart in the last several episodes. Supposedly there were massive issues with budget, scheduling, and the show runners having never directed a show before. Still worth watching just prepare for the end to just go off the rails

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

Anime always does representation better cause characters like that aren't there for tokens or quotas. They come across as human beings.

[@bigoreoenergy3123]

Ikr? This is why I love manga/anime.

[@ladyaceina]

plenty of western works dont do it for tokken or the like she-ra was a great example

[@ppgz1229]

To be fair they are way ahead of the game. In japan homosexuality is seen more as a "oh that person likes that person" rather than "that guy likes that guy" not to say they don't get descriminated for it but it's more common and accepted. And Japan used to have stories/tales of a third gender in their folklore. There are actually a couple of other cultures who have normalized a third (if not more) genders. America will hopefully get there soon but try to remember. Japan has thousands of years of history, philosophy and development. America is like a stubborn newborn who throws tantrums. I think America will get there soon. At least I hope so. All we can do is let that hate and hurt end with us. Our generation.

[@ladyaceina]

@@ppgz1229 uh no japan is very homophobic and transphobic and sexist as well seriously the country is not like their media depicts it

[@dreamer9398]

@@ladyaceina Not really, honestly...

[@obsessiveforest]

I don't understand why people get SO mad when I tell them I identify with Momoe as a trans girl myself. Even if it's a headcanon, I'm not harming anyone.

[@obsessiveforest]

There's certain experiences a lot of transfems can relate with, and Momoe's character depicts them VERY accurately. I don't know if I'm explaining well. What I want to say is that, to the people who get angry to Momo being trans girl, pls relax and let people enjoy things. Also, trans girls can also be masculine. I found in Momoe the representation that I searched during a lot of time.

[@digitalidol1003]

i dont get why ppl get mad at headcannons, also momoe literally reminds me sm of a trans girl as a trans girl myself

[@Chimerayuri3]

Great video. Momo is such a great character. Ep 10 was Uncomfortable. I wanted to recommend the show to a friend of mine but now with episode 10.... I can’t and it’s a shame. So dark but this show is also kind of a wake up call

[@krecik274]

It's still a great show after episode 10. Why did you change your mind so fast? Recommend it to the friend and give it a chance

[@Chimerayuri3]

@@krecik274 I’m still watching the show. I’m loving it. It’s just my friend has issues when it comes to the R word and what happened to that boy would trigger them.

[@otaku_cosplay7845]

I remember watching this episode and stoped when the trans boi was on and call all my friends and was like GUYS FIRST TRANS IN ANIME!!!!! Never been so happy before.

[@chaoskiddo5996]

Uh? Like in anime in general? That's kinda untrue

[@minegagadoli]

Stars Align had non-binary Yuu Hunter x Hunter had trans-best-girl Alluka

[@remi1983]

desmond from "carole and tuesday" is trans/non binary

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

"like GUYS FIRST TRANS IN ANIME!!!!! Never been so happy before." Then you need to watch more anime, there was plenty of trans characters before this. My favorite being Hana from Tokyo Godfathers.

[@trashyink2132]

@@TheAutistWhisperer Hana is a boss ass bitch

[@zhuyijiang3354]

isn’t momoe cis? she’s simply a tomboy that gets often mistaken as a boy. she goes to an all girls school but outside she always dresses masculine, if she were a trans girl she wouldn’t do that.

[@hexcodeff6624]

Yep. Her article on the wiki states that she wants to be perceived as a girl

[@anormalhumanboy]

some trans girls do dress tomboyishly too, though. I think a lot of trans girls probably relate to her feelings of wishing people would not judge by her appearance or clothing of choice and just respect her gender (especially with the stuff pointed out in the video). but, momoe could possibly still be written to be a cis girl who is insecure of her appearance, and the addition of a trans character in her episode might be to just discuss how they relate in their experiences. so I think both interpretations are ok.

[@ilewdlolis939]

she seems to be gender non-conforming at least since she identify as a girl but likes to wear boy-ish cloths and sometimees uses a male name. i guess you could see her a a trans coded character like Lake from infinity train since she mirrors the struggles of trans people without being explicity trans

[@hexcodeff6624]

@@ilewdlolis939 The struggle of trans people is born in a body they aren't comfortable with. That has nothing to do with her character.

[@whofan1212]

i do think trans girls in japan CAN do that though, so yeah she would

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

The one boy who sees Momoe as a girl, and he's fucking dead.

[@KW-yv6gz]

I've noticed that its a debate whether she's a cis women, who's struggling with people mistaken her as a boy, or a trans women who is always getting seen as a boy and judged and has to deal with the feeling of being dysphoria. I think no matter how you see her character, she still brings light to a very serious topic about femininity, and masculinity. I see her as a trans women because I felt the show was hinting at that more but I understand why others see her as a cis women.

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Hi! Non-binary person here! I am glad to see anime get this stuff right and while i have not faced too much ridicule i know some have it really rough such as sexual harassment and such, personally i am pansexual but i have had my fair share of uncomfortable situations none the less. Great video! cute cosplay! cute doggo! Keep up the great work!

[@Kai-rb2fx]

im nonbinary and watched this show with my girlfriend who is a transfem nonbinary person, when we first saw momoe we instantly loved her and this meant so much to us, we never thought we would see such good trans rep on anime and never even IMAGINED seeing some wholesome T4T representation, we had teared up a couple of times before, but we cried so much during this episode, this show is entirely amazing and means so much to us

[@lf_murmur7685]

trans gal here, absolutely loved the way you covered momoe and kaoru! much love

[@ladyaceina]

had not heard of this anime will be checking it out now i really hope it gets a dub thoe im conflicted on one thing i want to recognize her wishes of being strait but on the other hand i turn every woman in every thing gay and trans women are women so thus its natural for me to want to turn her gay

[@minegagadoli]

But Momoe is already sick of girls failling in love for her

[@ladyaceina]

@@minegagadoli having watched the anime now it seems a little more complicated than that im pretty sure she is actually bi just her own gender issues make her feel awkward when a girl asks her out

[@rwolf7255]

@@ladyaceina if you really want to claim she’s bi- then she probably leans more towards males.

[@INikoska]

@@ladyaceina pretty sure momoe is cishet.

[@onlylauri]

@@INikoska pretty sure she's trans and bi

[@mongamelimasiso4702]

That's way this anime feels so real even though am a straight guy I felt the struggles of these characters. Anime truly can convie a message much more than any media

[@foregroundeclispeleon6223]

As a trans man who also loves Anime+Manga I'm so happy this Anime exists truly

[@foregroundeclispeleon6223]

I'm a trans man ftm and I think you tackled this wonderfully and with a lot of care and respect thank you 💙 This Anime also did a funominal job at representing trans people positively. 💙

[@LobselErik]

It's so refreshing to see a cis person talk about this! I swear, everytime there's so much controversy over a clearly at the very least trans-coded character, especially when it's a positive depiction of transgender feelings, it feels so disheartening, but it's great to see people that understand it even if they're not trans themselves Personally, Wonder Egg was a messy show, it delivered some interesting things but as a trans person Momoe's arc definitely stood out the most. And Kaoru having such a good effect on her and their mutual validation even in such a horrible reality full of abuse and trauma was really heartwarming. It's definitely not the most perfect representation, especially with how the show was rushed, but definitely a needed and memorable one and it's great to see people talking about it positively

[@bunnysunnymew]

"If it's finally is as good as the lead up" famous last words

[@Arumia13]

Ha ha ha… I haven’t even watched it, yet I saw like 5 mins into a 20 minute view and yeah sad times huh

[@slateoffate9812]

3:02 At first I was thinking, "Should I watch this show? On one hand, positive trans representation YESS that character is even wearing a trans flag hoodie, but on the other it might be slice of life, which my brain does not have the attention span for" but now I'm thinking "OKAY THAT PREMISE SOUNDS BOTH AWESOME AND LIKE EMOTIONAL TORTURE AND I'M NOT IN THE PLACE FOR MORE ANGST RIGHT WHAT DO I DO? DO I WATCH IT OR PRIORITIZE MY MENTAL HEALTH?"

[@michirugmichi6338]

I'm non-binary and this episode meant so much to me I thought that momoe would be in the lower "tiers" of the main cast but after this episode especially she s my favorite! thank you, momoe

[@iriszeldaana]

i think episode 10 is the best episode of the show (but seeing as how im a trans girl i may be biased) dont get me wrong, wep takes its concept and does amazing with it, but episode 10 just goes all the way. the best characterization, the best psychological horror, the best drama, maybe not the best fight but definitely one of the greatest, and what i think may be the absolute cutest moment in wep, and def the cutest moment ive seen in anime in a long time. absolutely wonderful. i love the funky little trans girl and trans boy. i hope one day they can be happy together.

[@10bster]

and gay rights, ura acca and acca were husbands

[@JuicyJuice-0]

I thought they were brothers?

[@SippenTeaa]

@@JuicyJuice-0 Nope, in episode 11 they were referred to as husbands. The line being "Do you hate you husband for cheating on you?" They pretended to be brothers, there were air quotes put around uncle and brother a few times during the episode

[@skullcidd]

didnt one of them have a kid with a woman tho

[@SippenTeaa]

Yeah, cuz he cheated on him with her

[@mgr9092]

@@SippenTeaa But didnt Ura-acca also likes the girl Acca married???

[@jillgrimwater3726]

Momoe isn't transgender she just has such an androgynous appearance that causes many people to think she's a boy, she never actually transitioned

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

Stfu omg

[@angeldust110]

momoe and kaoru are my little kinnies ♡ im just like kaoru in the aspect that i am a trans male :) and with momoe, i adore how she proudly embraces her femininity and women-empowerment side !

[@arrinskid.4595]

MOMOE IS NOT TRANS! I REPEAT MOMOE IS NOT TRANS! It was never mentioned momoe was trans, she's just a girl who has boyish style. that in itself creates the similarity between momoe and that trans boy. a boy who coventionally looks like a girl gets misgendered and a girl who conventionally looks like a boy gets misgendered by the society. shows how gender-identity is such a fragile idenitity to express in our society without getting invalidated.

[@Alya9673]

Ahn... She never mentioned momoe is trans...

[@Daniicubed]

@@Alya9673 did you even watch the video

[@Alya9673]

@@Daniicubed yes

[@arrinskid.4595]

@@Alya9673 1:38 "expressing her traits as trans girl..." no like seriously, did you even watch the video?

[@Alya9673]

@@arrinskid.4595 Oh i noticed now

[@VaderTheWhite]

Well, my trans ass is interested in this show now.

[@bunniiboyo]

As a trans boy, this ep made me very happy because there isn't really any good plotted out trans character in anime. Thanks for making this video!

[@fifteendozenalleyroses]

“If its finally is as good as the build-up-“ I’m gonna stop u right there it’s not

[@akashelement4884]

I started watching this video then a couple minutes in paused it and binge watched the entirety of Wonder Egg Priority. 100% worth it, I always love and appreciate good trans rep. Anyway, thanks for the video!

[@chillinvillain7800]

Yo Momoe’s lizard looks gnc af

[@potatopatch4563]

WAIT If momo is trans then where did her uhh... chest? come from? I don't think she got surgery considerings she's a teen and hormones don't do that, do they?

[@TallestShrublet]

A month later, but yes, taking estradiol (the hormone dominant in female puberty, though men have some of it too) for an extended period of time causes anyone to grow boobs no matter their assigned sex. So fun fact, anyone can grow a pair of badonkers. The world is an amazing place ^ ^

[@Anael_is_lost]

Ahhhhh yeeeeeah i love this anime People tell me i'm momoe Physically and mentaly-

[@jordan9503]

im confused why is everyone calling her trans ? shes clearly tomboy . she might have gender dysphoria tho.

[@euwuwi1737]

Yes but the boy (kaoru) is a trans boy

[@jordan9503]

@@euwuwi1737 you had me soo confused for a sec . u mean the female that identifies as male ?

[@euwuwi1737]

@@jordan9503 The one with black hair with a yellow cap is a boy in the body of a girl, a trans boy

[@jordan9503]

@@euwuwi1737 but didnt the accas say that boys couldn't be in the egg world because mens brains are objective focused over emotion focused like women ?

[@swiftvogel4332]

Yeah, this video is to woke for me

[@Tairafan]

Before I watch the video, I'd like to point out that the trans person who was the egg was a boy, and I don't like that. They decided they would only deal with girls. That's a problem on it's own, but if they are committed to that, they should have made the episode and a trans girl!

[@digitalidol1003]

right. it seems invalidating to me too since he is still seen as a girl still bc only girls come out of the eggs. a trans girl would be a much better choice

[@zeljia416]

Omg this was amazing momo is my favourite chacter and I give it a 9/10 only because of the last episode it’s honestly amazing I loved it

[@chaoskiddo5996]

Wonder egg priority has me more confused than EVA ever did

[@katieh4664]

Even if it’s not confirmed, I head canon Momoe as a trans girl 🥰

[@naomakimura]

As long as you don’t force your headcanon as canon, I think it’s okay

[@onlylauri]

@@naomakimura as long as u don't force your hc that she's cis, it's okay

[@jackierabbit]

momoe is a trans girl, end of discussion

[@nandotnt5678]

Leave it to anime to do what the west fails.

[@treubaking]

I finished Wonder, but I still can’t seem to figure out why they all disappeared. Like I may be dumb or something..but why?

[@amybb3677]

Omg I didn’t even realise the symbolism in Momoe ripping away her shirt also you did well imo dw about it 🥰

[@Gracie-wt2sl]

this is the first show ive seen with genuine trans representation

[@FreedomReigns1000]

Momoe helped me come out to myself.

[@tea_n_ink]

personally i headcannon Momoe as trans because she is very trans coded.

[@jennaii3237]

are you cis?

[@ajente2o733]

That headcanon is anoying but i respect that

[@verydamn]

not all tomboys and cross-dressers are trans.

[@ge3zermk2]

This is the reason why I find this anime quite good because I have quite a few trans friends so I was shocked to find an anime take a big leap and don’t care about the backlash

[@mylastusernameideafloppeds7233]

But Momoe isn't trans though?

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

She is

[@camerontree2605]

my dad walked on me watching this episode the moment they kissed and now i dont know what to think

[@renegrayson]

i don't know if anyone will see this comment but I'm pretty sure Momoe IS a trans girl, she's wearing a bra with the trans colours, and also no it is not outright stated that she's cis?? What??

[@renegrayson]

actually i hadn't finished the video and you pointed out all the symbolism, so all the people saying Momo isn't trans apparently didn't watch the video. Also I noticed that Haruka has the pan flag as a bracelet!

[@razrinecoz8269]

Trans dude here... I think using he/they currently. You said nothing but the truth and did a great job explaining

[@razrinecoz8269]

I’m a boy. I’m a boy. Why can’t anyone see that though. I hate my looks. It hurts worse than anything to be called a girl. But it’s not like I can get rid of my mom. She knows. I told her. Why can’t she understand. Why is it so hard to her. I’m a boy. I’ve always been one. You were just to dumb to realize than and still are. I hate it here. It never gets better. Now all I do is watch anime to hide my pain. It’s all I can do. I don’t know how much longer I can handle It. I don’t know what to do. If I tell my therapist what will she do. I’m scared. The only person who actually understands is my best friend. Their amazing. But no one else in this entire world. That’s hard. That hurts. Sorry a rant my mental health just go really bad again and I don’t know what to do

[@incredimations1663]

@@razrinecoz8269 (Sorry I’m 3 months late to this) I’m so sorry for all that you’re going through. You are 100% a boy, don’t listen to anyone who thinks otherwise. I’m here if you need to talk about anything. I hope your mother and other people in your life learn your true gender and that things will get better for you

[@radii]

as s non binary person i can say that nothing in this video was done wrong or deemed offensive! thank you!

[@Zazabazaa]

I thought Momoe's problem was that she was a cis gender girl who was treated as a boy when that wasn't who she was... in my opinion that makes the dynamic between her and Kaoru so much more interesting because they've both been bullied by people who view them as the gender they are not but one is cis and one is trans, that shows more sides to what it means to have a gender.

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

She's a trans woman

[@yyumex]

ii dont know whether momoe is actually a trans girl or not, but seeing kaoru in the show is representation enough. especially because they show us the pains and traumas trans people have to go through, even just with the 'people don't call him a boy' stuff. i'm a trans girl and i love this representation.

[@ladyhaha7548]

Momoe isn't trans. She's (still) cis.

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

@@ladyhaha7548 shut up

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

She's trans

[@yyumex]

@@KarutoZoaldyeck i don't think she is

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

@@yyumex she is coded to be

[@Daniicubed]

I think you may have misinterpreted momoes character, she’s a cis girl who enjoys dressing masculine but dislikes being seen as a man.

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

She doesn't enjoy it jackass she did it bc it got her online attention. She isn't CIS either.

[@stribor7477]

Good video. Also obligatory trans rights comment chain.

[@femmefuntime]

In response to several comments here denying that she’s trans: Why can’t people just let trans people have our characters? Why do people have to keep trying to erase the transness of trans characters? Imo saying “she’s a cisgender tomboy” and erasing her transness in that way is just as bad as femboy fetishists erasing the transness of characters like Ferris and Ruka.

[@EmmaPennyE.9001]

Sorry just letting out my feelings out I'm gender-fluid and I like to call myself both male and female my male name is Dylan and my female name is Elizabeth I would like people to recognize me a boy when I am my male self but at the same time I would like for people to call me a girl when I'm my female self and the problem is that my parents won't let me be my female self I literally have to hide some of my feelings just not to get detected by my parents it is stressful for me I just wish I was in another world so I can forget all of my past but I'm in a world where everyone judges every little thing that I do I'm just a human I maybe strong but still have my limits like what do people expect from me just except society pay taxes and die because no one would ever care if I'm gone like I never did ask to be born so I ended up with a "dad" who is controlling a "mom" only cares about God and no one else I hate my family and I hate myself being the only child for this forsaken family I hate who god made me if I supposed to sit on the same chair every week and pray then to hell of it god hasn't answered me then he never will the only thing he ever done to me is that he killed my unborn sisters people say God loves everyone so you saying that he loves me so much that he will kill my sisters that he will make me hate him for doing that tell me what is the purpose for living if you end up dieing in the end because at the end everyone dies and you can't help it this is why I hate being a human your life is short you don't have any special powers you just end up being forgotten and alone just like me and that is the sad truth

[@hannahjones8139]

Loved your essay, and I want your dog.

[@frooty_satyr]

yesyesyesyesyesyesyes, the only problem was that the time whatsername said she had a date, i quit the ep bc i thought it would b cringe-

[@urmomslover8106]

I love the show and its characters, though I will have to disagree with you when it comes down to momoe. The show specifically stated only girls are able to enter the wonder egg "dream realm" she also states herself and it is proven she is a biological female. She dresses as a "boy" because people often portray her as one due to her "broad shoulders, Refined jaw and short hair" which as a female who has all, just because you have those features it does not make you any less feminine. I dress in my brother's clothing and often wear loose or "non-feminine" clothing simply because it is more comfortable. Dressing in "masculine" clothing doesn't automatically make you a male, she wants to be seen as a female whilst wearing what makes you comfortable. It's like a tom boy. However, Kaoru is confirmed to be trans, for she said she doesn't identify as a female and wants to be a guy. However, with Momoe, she is not trans she is a biological female who wants to be female. Her message as a character for I feel the show has many deeper meanings that relate to modern-day life is that people need to stop categorizing and smacking a gender onto materialistic items, like clothing and hair. I have struggled with self-esteem issues due to my broad shoulders or "masculine appearance" or having short hair and being grouped into the male category even though I am a biological female. I feel as i that is momoes character showing everyone that you don't have to wear pink to be a female. However, this is my opinion just as yours is and I will respect everyone's.

[@onlylauri]

what scene?

[@urmomslover8106]

@@onlylauri the entirety of every scene she's been in the show. When she first meets Ai she explains she is a female with masculine features such as her broad shoulders, long neck, and short hair. The two puppet guys explain when ai asks if there are any guys in the dream realm that "this world is only for females who have lost someone close to suicide." Only cis females can be in that dream realm

[@onlylauri]

@@urmomslover8106 female doesn't always mean in the context of sex, it can be used for gender too? also, your acting like transgender girls are in a different category than cis girls, Momoe can still be trans and struggle with masculinity and all of that? I don't remember that scene, so unless you can give me an exact name for what the scene is then I'll have to ignore that. Even after all of that you cannot ignore how she's coded to be trans, she experiences all the things I experience as a trans girl, she has all the traits I have as a trans girl, you can't ignore this, and if you do then you should question why your strongly denying a characters trans coding and ask yourself the implications behind it. Anyways, I see her as trans girl, you can see her as a cis girl, but don't try to change how I view her, I get no representation in media, Momoe is on the few characters I can actually relate to.

[@frossbedoing]

Although everything indicates that she is a trans woman, it still confuses me the part where the mannequins say that only women are in that place and yet they place a trans man, so I assumed that they took into account only biological sex and not gender, but also place a trans woman? It still doesn't make much sense to me

[@KarutoZoaldyeck]

The accas never make sense lol

[@lindsfreey9080]

Because she's not trans.

[@Andrew_in_the_garden]

Gosh I've been trying to decide if I wanted to see this show or not for a while, finding out there's actually trans characters in the show was like oh brb gotta go binge this right now immediately

[@kataminedj]

Momoe wears a bra/vest with the trans flag colours on it

[@heribertollamas2047]

Love your cosplay. It sounds like you've enlightened quite a few people here with just this one video (including me). Let me say, You're are beautiful. Open Mind, Open Heart. We must just love each other and respect each other. Cute Douge.

[@あきら-v7h]

I’m pretty glad that Kaoru is a trans boy not only because of representation but because you don’t really see trans boys in anime as often in anime as trans girls (despite how rare it is). In Japan it’s already taboo for a man to be an mtf but more taboo to be a ftm… I would possibly argue that trans females have it a tiny bit better than trans males. I feel she might not be a trans female but it’s certainly possible. Cis women use “boku” even though it’s more of a masculine way of saying “I” or “me” as my cousin uses it because she’s a tomboy

[@akumu9301]

Ah, yes, someone fighting monsters screaming they're a girl. 🔮

[@omumafu6346]

momoe isnt trans, the hc is harmful and you should NOT be speaking on this as a cis person. - trans person

[@zeynepakman9437]

your cosplay is soo cute T^T

[@nerukagamine5765]

For me, I don't think Momoe is trans. But I like the trans headcanon and I won't stop people from believing it. I rarely see representation for girls like myself dressing androgynous or masculine because we immediately assume we're trans. It feels awful explaining to someone I just like dressing this way and keeps getting mistaken as a guy kinda hurts after a while. I just dress this way because it's me and I like dressing this way. I never felt this way to any character like Momoe and she conveys my issues perfectly. I feel like both interpretations are wonderful, but this is my perspective as someone who dresses androgynous/masculine.

[@onlylauri]

it still is gender non conforming girls though? she's just trans, what difference is there? your opinion seems backhanded and transphobic

[@benz0s._139]

Yes

[@oreootter]

Thanks to this anime I finally embraced that Im trans 💖 I didnt like the anime as the whole but Ill be forever thankful for that episode

[@coraline2770]

Gotta watch this thank you

[@eriszuny]

Just gained a subscriber, miss cis lebsian, lesiban, le.. less bien- le YOU KNOW, THAT THING THAT MAKES YOU LIKE GIRLS

[@EggCakes27]

I'm a trans person and i think Momoe is a good trans rep she's good. Butm i think Kaoru is horrible representation, to be honest im not a massive fan of the show but it is similar to alot of stereotypical trans story. first of is the stereotypical character design of him having an outfit that matches the trans flag colors. although trans people are commonly victims to sexual assault, as a trans person this is a something i commonly see in media about trans people. the sexulization and therefore the sexual assault of trans people can be seen represented in all media. It's sad to see that trans people and being trans is seen as something sexual by cis people (of course this isnt all cis people) and because of this alot of narratives about trans people revolve around sex, consensual or not. Personally i think the best trans representation ive seen is the manga series Wandering Son (although I haven't seen the anime so i can't comment on that). e dit: also if your trans and feel represented in kaoru or momoe this isnt like an attack on you and thats great that you can find a character that reflects you

[@kiri_3588]

I said this on the other vid cause I watched out of order lol but again killing that cosplay 👌I love it 🖤

[@DarlingS.A.M]

As long as there aren't creepy insects I don't mind & I'm all for it 😁👍

[@creepbunn]

I share a Funimation account wi Tyy some friends and they haven’t finished episode 1 so imma watch it myself

[@beenjenkens9251]

egg

[@mrivyhead7663]

I'm not trans, I'm a bi sis boy, but I work at a call center. I'm always mistaken by a girl bc of my voice and makes my really uncomfortable, even I have had man telling me that I most be really pretty irl and whenever I told them my real name they would call me fag or they would be really mean to me. This character is literally how I feel in my workplace and she somehow made me fell better about myself :')

[@jellydeer9777]

Isn't momoe cis tho? She has often stated that she gets mistaken for a boy often and doesn't like it If she was trans she would say something along the lines of "I wish I was a girl"

[@leonelegender]

Is it really a trans or just a confused girl? By the show lore only girls can get influenced with the "temptation of death" from the villain, if that was a real boy he would not be in the egg to start with, would he?

[@digitalidol1003]

i thought so too. why would kaoru come out of the egg??

[@shurikenmoo.0366]

Idk she’s just a girl for me trans or not

[@neozero2598]

2 months late but Momoe is not trans, she just prefers to have a masculine appereance and doing that causes for people to think she's a boy (i believe this was confirmed? not sure tho)

[@onlylauri]

no she's not cis

[@thatpotato3216]

YES!

[@naranciabestboi8498]

Um, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I'm pretty sure momo is a cis girl who is often mistaken for a boy due to her masculine way of dressing. In her flashbacks, she was shown in a female school uniform, and in an all girl's school, which I don't think would be allowed. Also, she doesn't have an Adam's apple and stuff. So I think she's just a kinda masculine looking cis het girl who is insecure because of how masculine they look. She actually reminds me of Ruka Urishibara from Steins;Gate who is highly insecure of the fact that he looks so feminine. He has low confidence and often hates his appearance due to misunderstandings that happen as a result.

[@lightofthelives]

Ruka is transfem wtf are you talking about

[@naranciabestboi8498]

@@lightofthelives before you say it, I am NOT transphobic, I respect all people and their sexuality, gender, pronouns, race, etc (I'm lgbtq+ too, just sayin) I'm not completely sure that Ruka is a trans girl. They had 2 main reasons for asking okabe to make them a girl. He said that he thought that since he was so feminine, he would feel more confident with his current body if he was biologically female/assigned female at birth. The second was so that it would be more acceptable for her to be romantically attracted to Okabe. In Japan, it's not very good to stand out, so homosexuality was frowned upon. From how I see it, Ruka wanted to be given a female body for the romantic opportunity it would grant her. However, again, it's not confirmed whether Ruka is a straight trans girl or a gay cis boy

[@naranciabestboi8498]

@@lightofthelives I'm sorry if you were offended by any of my answers, I was really just giving my honest opinion on how I interpreted that part of the story ❤️

[@Jellyfishstarz]

Momoe isn’t trans, she’s Cis-gender.