Wonderlands War: Shards of Madness and Reboxing

[@BoardGameCasualChannel]

Wonderland's War was in my Top 10 New-to-me Games of 2023. Man, I might have to try this expansion!

[@KMReviews]

I definitely suggest using things like the base rings and leader dice for any game. It just makes the board state easier to see. I also 100% think I’ll draft the starting wonderlandian and resources for every game now, at least for people who have played before. As far as the alternate wonderlandian cards, I may do that here and there but I still prefer the base wonderlandians.

[@BoardGameCasualChannel]

@@KMReviews I can definitely see how the rings would be helpful. Drafting sounds like it would be a cool way to start as well, though I really just need more plays... Thanks for the info!

[@EggoGF]

Thank you for this video. It's very helpful. I have the Deluxe edition also and was wondering if there were any inserts that were compatible with it. It looks like there is enough room to use the deluxe edition miniature holder at the top. That's the one part I'm hesitant about is having the minis get damaged if they're free rolling around in a small box like that. Do you think that one section of the original deluxe edition insert would fit on top?

[@KMReviews]

Yea it definitely would still fit. I kinda wish I had kept mine. This works but if you have a paint job you wanna protect, keeping that portion would be a good idea.

[@EggoGF]

Thank you for that. I just ordered the same insert as you. I love this game, but the setup and teardown are a bear without an insert.@@KMReviews

[@Maraffler]

Expansion question: the tea cards give you a wonderland character and another card gives you a set of rewards/punishments with a reduction in your starting supporters. Is it correct to play with a different number of supporters throughout the game? Do the supporters that you put in the box because of the reduction stay there for the whole game or do you get them back during the game?

[@KMReviews]

Yea the reduction is permanent. The only way to get extra supporters is from forging on your player board. But any reduction, those stay in the box the whole game.

[@Maraffler]

@@KMReviews thank you very much! :)

[@linktechjjb]

Have you played much with the expansion yet? The Tea and Crumpet cards look at lot like the Prelude expansion for Terraforming Mars, which kickstarts your game and speeds up the game length. Do you find this expansion achieves that as well as Prelude did?

[@KMReviews]

It’s very different than prelude. It definitely kickstarts your game a little and gives some assymetry right off the bat which for me makes it more fun, but it by no means speeds up the game. I will always use them now though.

[@Xhawk33]

Might you share how/where you got you minis painted? Would absolutely love to have mine done that way, we absolutely love this game and just got the KS expansion stuff yesterday.

[@KMReviews]

I painted them myself lol

[@sidneyleejohnson]

The shards setup instructions actually suggest replacing your existing 24 Wonderlandian cards. That said they don't overlap perfectly if you happen to have promo cards ~4-5 of them? I stuck my originals under the bottom plastic insert along with the 2 replaced "character boards" in case I decide I want them back but I transferred the sleeves onto the new cards. I suppose this is the nature of promo cards, they are the lost step children of board games. Often perfectly designed inserts have no room for them and situations like this don't cover them. Having never played the original I'm not entirely sure I should be permanently discarding the original set. So to "deep" storage they went.

[@KMReviews]

It’s just an expansion, you should definitely not get rid of the originals.. it just means replace them in the games you use them in.. any particular game you either use the share wonderlandians or the normal ones. So I don’t understand why you would discard the original cards..

[@sidneyleejohnson]

Thanks for the insights. That said if you decide to always play with the Shards then you would have no reason to keep the originals and as it happens the deluxe box really doesn't offer immediate storage room for them other than tucking them under in deep storage. However, I do now see the desire to at least sleeve the whole set even if I've made it somewhat difficult to get to the originals. I am not sure though if keeping the extra set under that bottom insert would actually support them being sleeved (doubles their space required essentially). I might manage it if they are spread thinly on the bottom layer. For whatever its worth I noticed on BGG that I'm not the only one that interpreted this as full out right replacement instead of incorporation. Someone on bgg suggested putting both matching cards in the same sleeve and randomizing which facing is "up". That obviously doesn't help with the promos situation. @@KMReviews

[@KMReviews]

@@sidneyleejohnson ok.. well it doesn’t just outright replace them. It specifically says in the instructions that all the stuff in the expansion is optional lol

[@sidneyleejohnson]

Of course. Glad we discussed this here to help others clear this up as well. Thanks again.@@KMReviews

[@g.b.2992]

So have these gone out from Kickstarter? How do you have this already?

[@KMReviews]

Yea they are fulfilling the Kickstarter right now.

[@pelicansurfs]

What sleeves do you use?

[@fedenomore]

+1

[@constChg]

retail version?

[@KMReviews]

I have the deluxe copy

[@constChg]

oh man@@KMReviews

[@KMReviews]

@@constChg the insert I have is made for the retail version

[@drunkzombie8811]

Prefer the more colourful original wonderland cards.

[@KMReviews]

I think in 90% of my games that’s what I’m going to be using.