Wood Turning a Prototype Art Deco Candlestick for a client

THE CHUCK PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED, MY THANKS TO EVERYONE FROM THE US WHO OFFERED.
A returning client with another Art Deco request, this time a pair of Art Deco candlesticks to go along with the Art Deco bowl I turned for him a few years ago. This video is prototyping the candlesticks
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[@jamesmihalcik1310]

Looks like you have sorted the parts. Always welcome to give a hand for you Shay. Have a great day. Thanks again for your craftsmanship, always an artform!

[@BBTurning]

Thanks James, yes all sorted now. Shay

[@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound]

I generally like the stand. I agree with you about the base of the tapered stem. It needs to be a good bit narrower. I’m also thinking that the base could have been left at full diameter. Finally, the “beads” at the top look in the picture to be slightly tampered as you go down the 4. I think Art Deco is one of the hardest styles to turn. It is simplistic in design, but so difficult to get proportions correct so that the piece is aesthetically pleasing. Hope you’ll show the final product.

[@BBTurning]

I agree totally Doug, something else I noticed is that the taper continues to the top under the embellishments, this is why we prototype, so things like this can be spotted before it gets into the clients hands. Shay.

[@William_Kenny]

Piece looks perfect shay nicely done as always mate, hope you get your chuck sorted 👍

[@BBTurning]

Cheers William, yes I think it is sorted mate. I will message you in the group and tell you what happened mate. Shay

[@ronkiskowoodart9680]

Shay anything they can get in the USA we can also get for you here in Canada. Happy to help you out anytime mate.

[@BBTurning]

Thanks Ron, I have it sorted mate. Again thanks for the offer , it is very much appreciated. Shay

[@mickjulian7499]

I think you're right about the base, but also I wonder if the stem should be slightly thinner especially toward the base, more tapered is the phrase I'm looking for and maybe slightly longer. I think your'e brave turning it in that orientation. I do like it, might have a go myself - but not cross grained.

[@BBTurning]

I have been looking at it all day and I think it is two things Mick. As you say the base is too thick which makes it look dumpy and the thing that was bugging me that I couldn't put my finger on is that the taper continues on under the embellishments at the top where I made it straight. Shay

[@billy19461]

I agree that the base is too big. Shay if you make a steady rest please video it. I need one too!

[@BBTurning]

Cheers Billy and I will indeed mate. Shay

[@jerrydwyer9057]

👍👍

[@BBTurning]

Thanks Jerry. Shay

[@BBTurning]

Thanks Jerry. Shay

[@SilverBack.]

Shay you have the look but I think it needs to be 1/4 to 1/2 of an inch thinner the whole length of the piece

[@BBTurning]

That the conclusion I came up with as well Douglas. Shay

[@danholderman3658]

Looks like you have a couple of guys willing to help out, if they fall through I will mail it for you.

[@BBTurning]

Thanks for the offer Dan, it is appreciated it is sorted out now. Shay

[@christophergath5199]

Looks like the base is not wide enough for stability the bottom of the stem needs to be a lot thinner and the top decco bit is smaller than the base closer to the size of the candle .as you done it this piece will be top heavy only been turning for 2 yrs myself hope my oppion is helpful

[@BBTurning]

Some very valid points Christopher . I have tested the stability and it is grand. It can tilt almost 30 degrees before it goes. I turn a lot of lamps so how to calculate tilt is almost second nature to me at this stage lol. I think I have figured out what was bugging me other than the bottom being too wide. The taper continues to the top between the embellishments and I had it cut straight. Thanks for the input and for only turning two years you seem to have the right mindset of thinking outside the box, nicely done. Shay

[@DavidAnderson-u2z]

Did you ever get the part?

[@BBTurning]

I did David thank you. I contacted Teknatool and said that the pinion was not on their Aliexpress page (which is how they sell parts to the public) for Europe, they apologised and put it on within an hour of me sending the email so the pinions are now available in Europe. Shay

[@alansmith477]

I would think narrower over all on the stem would work. For me the stem looks bulky and the base looks too thick. I would make it more delicate in appearance. Shay this is just my opinion

[@BBTurning]

And not a bod opinion at all Alan, I think the taper is too thick as well, when i get it correct I will be able to gauge the sizes of the other elements better. Shay

[@jonfortner3919]

I think your issue is that the picture is showing a stick that is overall thinner than your piece. The top is likely much smaller

[@BBTurning]

I agree the taper is thinner Jon, and i think the problem with the top is that the taper follows all the way up under the embellishments and I made it straight which as you say makes it look too big. This is the reason I like to prototype stuff before I do the actual turning, you catch little details that you may miss looking at a photo. Shay

[@ronkiskowoodart9680]

In my humble and I do mean humble opinion the whole stem and square bead embellishment is just too wide. If you look at your phot you have a very slender candle stick. Yours appears much more chunky. Hope that helps

[@BBTurning]

I came to the same conclusion Ron, when I am turning the ones for the client they will be on the more slender side. Shay

[@billmiller5924]

Shay I just sent you a message on my Wife’s Fb - I will help you get your part( / parts ) for your lathe Chuck

[@BBTurning]

Got that Bill, thank you. The part is sorted now, I have explained in my email reply. Shay

[@vinniebaio2535]

Sent you an email I'd be happy to help with your chuck problem.

[@BBTurning]

Thank you Vinnie, I have it sorted. I will explain what happened when I reply to your email. Again thank you for offering it is very much appreciated. Shay

[@DavidAnderson-u2z]

Too chunky. Look at the 1927 movie Metropolis, focusing on where the bad guy uses electricity on the heroine. You will see "rings" of electricity that the candle stand can mimic.

[@BBTurning]

That what I came up with as well David, when i did the set for the client I halved the width of the rings and tapered the entire thing more. Shay