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Woodhead - the Last Day JULY 1981

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Robert Paget

Robert Paget

Күн бұрын

July 1981 Woodhead.
The last day of trans Pennine freight haulage and empty movements through Woodhead tunnel, with EM1 Class 76 locos.
I had held this Super 8mm footage back because it was planned to have been part of a larger film about electric traction.
I now wish that I could have afforded more film to shoot on that day, but the following year we filmed the "sister" passenger EM2 Class 77 1500v locos in Den Haag, which were sold to Netherlands Railways in 1970, when passenger services had been curtailed on this route.
camera: Canon 512XLE
former Woodhead route British class 77s in their last days at Den Haag:
• Class 77 1500v DC EM2 ...

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@stuartbroome1258
@stuartbroome1258 2 жыл бұрын
How priceless this line would be today! Very short sighted to close it.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
And 40 years from now it might be useless again. Just how do you think they would be able to work out what is needed in 40 years if they can't predict if Sheffield will have a white Christmas this year?
@gainsbourg66
@gainsbourg66 Жыл бұрын
All railway lines have tremendous value and potential. They just didn't realise that 40 years ago. They should have singled the line, and it would have resembled 100s of little used rural lines all over the country. In addition it would have made a great high speed, steam heritage railway - all set up and complete - the only one to connect two major cities, in fact ANY two cties.
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Жыл бұрын
I am utterly amazed. I never realised the Woodhead electrics lasted until 1981.
@craigoliphant4
@craigoliphant4 3 жыл бұрын
14/7/81 40 years ago today. I was at Woodhead that day also, and saw a DMU pass with staff on a last jolly.
@beckycrawford3862
@beckycrawford3862 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandad, who was a train driver, was driving one of these trains on the last day. Apparently he was interviewed for the radio, would love to find that archive
@laszlofyre845
@laszlofyre845 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, who was he, where did he work?I worked this line too.
@MrJimbaloid
@MrJimbaloid Жыл бұрын
@@laszlofyre845 Hello mate did you know Brian Higginbottom? I worked with him on tipper trucks and man did he have some stories about the woodhead.
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Жыл бұрын
@@MrJimbaloid I once worked with a former Woodhead driver: Don Stockdale. Smashing guy.
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic 👍🏻 But what a waste pulling it all up 😢 I’m lucky enough to have travelled through it and spent many days train spotting round Manchester where the class 76s worked. And I’ve walked through it when it closed 😊
@robertpagetfilms
@robertpagetfilms Жыл бұрын
It was the second week of our honeymoon, and being able to afford enough cine film to record this was vital.
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 ай бұрын
@@robertpagetfilms Thanks for filming!
@roywatson8133
@roywatson8133 Жыл бұрын
fantastic railway hard to believe its gone forever
@robertpagetfilms
@robertpagetfilms Жыл бұрын
and the priority at the time was to retain the route which had most stations, and therefore most customers, with the opposite logic being applied to HS2. It could have had 25KV installed. Glad I was there to record it.
@stevehutchinson5399
@stevehutchinson5399 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking footage. Somehow no sound makes it all the more wistful and eerie. Wish I'd been there...
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 3 жыл бұрын
me too
@train4905
@train4905 5 ай бұрын
Awsome 😊
@robertpagetfilms
@robertpagetfilms 5 ай бұрын
Thanks 🤗
@markrich7171
@markrich7171 3 жыл бұрын
40 years ago. Seams like only yesterday. Had several trips over the route during the preceding months , either railtours or Sunday diversions and had a two day trip in May '81 Sunday/Monday slept in my mates Austin Allegro in Penistone Station Car Park. Woken up Monday morning by the first DMU of the day and spent most of the day photting, 76's. Of all the places we visited that trip only Toton remains. Tinsley, Dinting, Reddish, Wath all closed. As well as the Woodhead line we also griced the Clayton West Branch was also down for closure and indeed closed in May '83 but has subsequently reopened as the Kirklees Light Railway and even the pub and the chippy at Penistone that we frequented on several visits have both now closed.
@clivebroadhead4381
@clivebroadhead4381 5 ай бұрын
It's an interesting fact that if the DC overhead Line Equipment had been retained woodhead would be an excellent route into Manchester from the ECML at Dincaster and the MML at Sheffield with AC/DC compliant trains.
@gainsbourg66
@gainsbourg66 Жыл бұрын
Truly amazing. Thank you for capturing that
@robertpagetfilms
@robertpagetfilms Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@dannycarter1966
@dannycarter1966 Жыл бұрын
The closure was political. Mrs Thatcher saw 2 alternative routes and also wanted to smash the coal industry. She also wanted rid of the Settle and Carlisle as she saw 2 alternative routes. She didn't care, and we're still feeling the fallout now.
@CarlSmith-bs4qx
@CarlSmith-bs4qx 2 жыл бұрын
Even for diversion purposes it absolutely should have been retained for use with diesel traction. With a fairly simple new curve it would have been possible at the Sheffield end to have access to the Midland station without the need to reverse. For those that are proactive it is hard not to see the potential for a St Pancras - Man Pic service via Woodhead with a new curve at the Sheffield end.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
When did Sheffield Parkway get constructed? The grade difference between the Midland and Victoria lines would creat an incredibly difficult challenge.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in reality. In 1981 we were in a recession with traffic levels falling nationally both freight and passenger. The traffic on the Woodhead route could be accommodated elsewhere.
@Palestina.non.grata86
@Palestina.non.grata86 3 жыл бұрын
How we still long for it to come back, 40 years later.
@petesaunders5958
@petesaunders5958 3 жыл бұрын
The only electrified line across the Pennines. And they go and close it!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
@@petesaunders5958 worn out non-standard equipment and locomotives plus a recession causing fall in traffic volume and the need for each train to have 3 locomotives and crews making it more expensive to operate EQUALS a candidate for closure.
@Andy-oe2ex
@Andy-oe2ex 24 күн бұрын
I’ve just rode my bike down here, very sad to see how it is now
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 ай бұрын
This route needs to be reopened with 25kv ac catenary
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw 4 жыл бұрын
Shortsighted this closure.
@leeosborne3793
@leeosborne3793 3 жыл бұрын
Why? The line needed a fortune spent on it to replace life-expired non-standard equipment, and the traffic it carried disappeared.
@thomasoates3003
@thomasoates3003 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeosborne3793 The reasoning given is that it would give extra capacity in the network (for instance, if the Hope Valley line is shut for repairs).
@jackbarrowclough1739
@jackbarrowclough1739 3 жыл бұрын
An example was the floods at the beginning of the year. Now that Woodhead is closed, TPE services were diverted via Huddersfield, Wakefield and Barnsley
@MASSspec1990
@MASSspec1990 2 жыл бұрын
@@leeosborne3793 everyone keeps citing that the equipment (locomotives) were life expired. They were only marginally older than the Class 77 which were sold to the Netherlands. The Dutch obviously didn’t think they were life expired. From everything I can find, and the people I have managed to speak to, that life expired line was just an excuse. Like a lot of what went on with the railroads.
@levelcrossing150
@levelcrossing150 2 жыл бұрын
@@MASSspec1990 If they want to get rid of something then they will find an excuse. Class 37's still going strong.
@easybeat
@easybeat Жыл бұрын
Could have formed basis for modern, high-speed trans-Pennine route? Not sure. But pity formation wasn't safeguarded.
@anthonymcdonnell6615
@anthonymcdonnell6615 3 жыл бұрын
also closed in the same year Was the St Helens to Runcorn gap railway built in 1833
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 жыл бұрын
Capacity we need. It will be realised when truck subsidies end.
@baconsandwich2007
@baconsandwich2007 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we need more capacity and yes, this line should have never closed but truck subsidies? I've been in road haulage for 30 years and I can assure you, we don't get any kind of subsidy.
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 жыл бұрын
@@baconsandwich2007 It's indirect. VED does not reflect damage done to highways by the heaviest loads. An American muscle car pays more VED than a 44 tonner!!!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
But in 1981 we had excessive capacity.
@oliverbrelsford5472
@oliverbrelsford5472 4 жыл бұрын
Aaand... spotters were out in force.
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 ай бұрын
The Closure of the Woodhead Route was the First Step Backward in the Degeneration and Deindustrialisation of the UK. Elif Air Ab Tizak to the Co Conspirators is all I can say!!
@HarryElliott_2007
@HarryElliott_2007 3 жыл бұрын
Is the woodhead line still in use like some of the areas
@AdamL
@AdamL 3 жыл бұрын
Yes - from Manchester Piccadilly as far as Hadfield and branch line to Glossop, the Woodhead Line survives kind of... there's also a single track goods line still in use on the Sheffield side
@ekvedrek
@ekvedrek 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it terminates at Hadfield
@stanogden6254
@stanogden6254 3 жыл бұрын
Arthur Moores RIP
@laszlofyre845
@laszlofyre845 2 жыл бұрын
Good old Arthur. He was my instructor on my MP12 handling course.
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Жыл бұрын
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