Woodworking Mistake to Avoid | Using the Wrong Featherboard

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@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
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@FixItFrench
@FixItFrench 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen these tests done, and never thought about one feather board being better than another. Great video! I bet those kick backs will get a lot of views in KZbin Shorts🤙🏼🤙🏼
@featherboards1565
@featherboards1565 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the Hedgehog featherboard in your comparison. I appreciate your scientific approach but was sad to see it finished in third place. A couple of things I'd like to point out: 1. When you're adjusting the Hedghog, it's better to place it adjacent to the board and then rotate it into the board until a couple of the fingers/feathers are flexed and then tighten it down. If you adjust it before inserting the board, it will rotate out if you've got it turned into the board too much. This can be particularly helpful if you're cutting a board with a rough, uneven edge that you're trimming off - if you start with the narrow end of the board first, the Hedgehog will rotate out as the board gets wider while still maintaining pressure against the fence and providing kickback reduction. Traditional featherboards simply jam up in that situation. 2. If you overflex the feathers, the board will be rubbing more against the back of them which reduces the bite required to reduce the ability to pull the board back toward you. 3. The Hedgehog is molded of a toughened, engineered nylon resin from DuPont. Obviously, it won't survive being cut by a spinning saw blade but the cuts won't result in shattered shards like cheaper commodity grade resins. My company is tiny (no employees) so I rely much on organic posts from folks like you. I'd be happy to send a replacement Hedgehog if you'd like to explore it further. Thanks, Brett.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information and explanation of the materials used and best practices for use! I also appreciate the offer of a replacement, but I have another one I purchased.
@roy.h.barrett
@roy.h.barrett 2 жыл бұрын
Worthy comment for sure. I may relook and rethink my approach.. Certainly valid. Thank you!
@nkgoodal
@nkgoodal 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brett! I really like my Hedgehog feather boards, they are very easy to set up and do a good job pushing into the fence. It doesn't take a lot of pressure to do that. I also have a few traditional boards, and there are some use cases for those.
@RoyBrunson
@RoyBrunson 2 жыл бұрын
Good video will done, I have feather boards on my router table and love them. just ordered some for my table saw. Thanks, love your shirt keep up the faith.
@hansangb
@hansangb 2 жыл бұрын
@9:38 That single up the middle was pretty impressive! I have the mag switch feather and use it simply because it's so easy to adjust. I mean 10-15 seconds doesn't sound like a lot, and it really isn't. But it doesn't accurately measure the annoyance level. Especially since often, you're holding something in place and using one hand to adjust. Love the magswitch featherboard.
@Mary_J1998
@Mary_J1998 2 жыл бұрын
Your first kickback test was completely useless the feather boards weren't even touching. You needed to use a longer board to see if the feather boards actually prevent the board from flying back those short boards didn't test anything
@ascalon132
@ascalon132 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, i was wondering why there wasn't a longer board to show their holding power. Still a cool video. Love the Project Farm-esq approach
@Mary_J1998
@Mary_J1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@ascalon132 yeah as soon as I saw it I was like hold on this doesn't seem like it was actually a test just a chance for some demolition lol
@ipick4fun27
@ipick4fun27 2 жыл бұрын
I use feather board whenever doing repeated cuts or ones need to keep tight tolerance. But I’m too cheap to pay for them so I made them out of scrap plywood. They work flawlessly. It will be extremely ignorant to allow your feather boards to be cut like on video. So I must say I can’t think of a scenario to relate to it. My personal experience is that any feather board regardless of pull force (15lb or 50lb), if used carefully it will prevent kick back. It drags down the board as it was kicking back to keep you safe. I use it more for alignment / cut quality than anything else. Safety was a bonus.
@raymondreyes4244
@raymondreyes4244 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, you just demonstrated with good experimantion that using a featherboard eliminates possible kickback.
@MMWoodworking
@MMWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing this is missing are the super expensive Magswitch ones. I personally just use the traditional ones, as my router table came with two of them, so I use them on my table saw as well. If I was flush with cash I'd definitely buy some bow ones to try them out, and some magswitch ones as well. I think that for 99% of people, the $15, or whatever it is, Powertech ones is plenty. You can get two Powertech ones for the price of one bow. Being able to stack two of them is really convenient for certain table saw cuts, bandsaw resawing, and then to have one on each side of the router bit in a table. Good video.
@davidhmorton
@davidhmorton Жыл бұрын
You must try the new Magswitch SAVR miter slot tool, patented fast set up, with one touch point for adjustment, great price point, being released for Black Friday.
@TOEC
@TOEC Жыл бұрын
Seems like a Hedgehog that had the Bow style foam teeth on it would be the ultimate design. If it started to pull back, the foam would grip the wood causing the entire featherboard to rotate, and due to it's shape it would act like a cam engaging, and eventually the only "give" it would have would either be the physical structure of the featherboard breaking around the bolt that holds it into the miter slot, or the rip fence being bent outward.
@DTJ3689
@DTJ3689 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so as any device that relies on a single point such as the hedgehog is inherently less "stable" than the devices that have two points. The single point acts as a pivot point upon which the device can circle or rotate.
@semosancus5506
@semosancus5506 7 сағат бұрын
The failure point will always be the board exiting out the top.
@csimet
@csimet 2 жыл бұрын
Although hard to really compare with these traditional featherboards, I use Jessem stock guides for two main reasons... Firstly, they remain on the fence side of the cut, and hold the workpiece down & towards the fence and usually do not need readjustment with each cut. Secondly, one of the pair is actually on the far side of the blade to further help control the cut and reduce kickback by keeping the piece held down. They are without doubt the best accessory I purchased, but pricy of course! I still have a traditional one like the Powertec you show - really only used for cuts when the Jessem will not fit between the blade and fence.
@marconiandcheese7258
@marconiandcheese7258 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Its like watching a project farm video
@eugenejakubowski1403
@eugenejakubowski1403 2 жыл бұрын
How about trying a homemade feather board such as what Steve Ramsey makes and uses did you try that and what could the possible results be
@Paul-044
@Paul-044 Жыл бұрын
I'm alway learning something new from Matt. I really appreciate what you do. Great video and content
@jeffstewart7434
@jeffstewart7434 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, another great video. All in all, enjoyed the effort you put into extensively testing and applying some science as well. The only featherboard I’ve bought for my table saw is the BOW product, and now I am really glad that I did. Was afraid you weren’t going to mention the huge point that the BOW feathers were replaceable, in light of the fact that the others were destroyed, but then you showed that they were by replacing on camera. Blessings to you and Ms. Amy.......
@jeffstewart7434
@jeffstewart7434 2 жыл бұрын
Other (brands) were destroyed, that is.
@grimeybeast1465
@grimeybeast1465 2 жыл бұрын
Great shirt! Soli Deo Gloria! 🙂
@uweponitz3588
@uweponitz3588 4 ай бұрын
Thank's for this Informationens🎉😊
@epgui
@epgui Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand the kickback test... None of the featherboards are even touching the piece when the kickback happens, so what does the test have to do with the products being tested?
@daviddeupree4677
@daviddeupree4677 Жыл бұрын
Good call. The kickback test could be helped if there was a top feather board. Won’t kickback.
@roy.h.barrett
@roy.h.barrett 2 жыл бұрын
Right there with you without the 'Science'.. having used all three types... Batting order is Foam, Fingers and Hedgehog.. for many of the same reasons you state and in the end... based on my personal preference.. good stuff Brother... thank you!
@fmzamoranod
@fmzamoranod 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thank you!!! PS: love your shirt!
@AKADonBrewer
@AKADonBrewer 22 күн бұрын
I ordered and just received today a package of Two Feather boards from Amazon which advertisers 4 table saws bandsaws and routers. The problem is the total words from the left side to the end of the feathers he's only 3 and 1/4 inches. This featherboard will not reach anywhere near the cutting blade on my table saw. Did I do something wrong other than not measuring the distance from my miter track to my blade comparing it to my table saw? I've seen these on television all the time and there's no distinction that I've seen between the size of the featherboard. But it still boils down to the fact that I felt it was misrepresented and maybe not intentional. However the description clearly says for table saws, Etc. I suppose I should just return them and best time to do my homework ahead of time instead of relying on Amazon's application of these feather boards? Thank you very much and I love your show
@tdlvsabs
@tdlvsabs 2 жыл бұрын
please run a test in the future of what happens when you set up a feather board as you did and another mounted on the fence facing downward to the work piece on the table
@cherokeevapor8480
@cherokeevapor8480 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test l would like to see a test of a wooden finger board which I have use most of my life. Plus they are easy to make
@DanoG-xf7jb
@DanoG-xf7jb 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the shirt!
@MrMalzers
@MrMalzers 2 жыл бұрын
This video is an ad for bow
@muthumanikya1847
@muthumanikya1847 Жыл бұрын
Useful also would be to test effort required to push forward as it would differ from this pullback effort measurement, given angled grip fingers.
@keith4154
@keith4154 Жыл бұрын
Great review I liked the green one but seems not real value for its cost. With so many ready made table saw accessories available it’s easy for expenditure to get away over time if you don’t take a step back and think is going to really be worth it. I will make one out of scrap that will work just as well.
@gnlman
@gnlman 2 жыл бұрын
i started using the Bow about 9 months ago. it is an excellent design. i am very happy with it.
@jimmypickett9912
@jimmypickett9912 Жыл бұрын
Does any company have a better table saw insert for the TS6307-00?
@mstev5956
@mstev5956 2 жыл бұрын
Would the table saw guard not stop the kick back to some degree?
@johnnyboy3563
@johnnyboy3563 2 жыл бұрын
ok but the hedgehog was on last year's Christmas gift ideas...
@adamc3474
@adamc3474 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It's a help for people to get to see different products compared. I just bought the Dewalt job site saw (black Friday sale). It's helpful to get an idea of tools I might need for it. Right now, a crosscut sled and a stand are what I'll be going for 1st. Stay awesome.
@mattdeneke3329
@mattdeneke3329 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for sharing. I will say that my experience has been different. I have a traditional featherboard (from Rockler) and have always had difficulty getting it to stay put. I usually have to tighten each knob with two hands to keep it from moving. I got a Hedgehog and it has worked great for me, no movement at all and only one hand required. I wonder if the different saw (and miter slots) might be the cause of our differing experience.
@featherboards1565
@featherboards1565 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, Matt. I fear that since Taylor Tools was involved in this video and they sell the Bow featherboard, that the conclusion was pre-determined. I have no evidence of this but the Hedgehog was demonstrated to be much less effective and competent than my satisfied customers would attest.
@pmcgurn1
@pmcgurn1 2 жыл бұрын
I initially got the Powertec when I got started, but found that I needed to wrap the miter bar in blue tape quite a few times to get it tight enough to lock down on my Dewalt DWE7491RS and not slip when doing cuts. The Bow was a night and day upgrade, and I really love it. No blue tape needed to get that to lock down nice and tight. Understanding that it's only giving horizontal support and not vertical, it's still quite a bit safer than the plastic-only options.
@fransiscoalvarezinski6293
@fransiscoalvarezinski6293 10 ай бұрын
I use one standard featherboard pushing towards the fence and two featherboards pushing down from the fence. No way am I going to spend over $70 for two Bow units. Good standard table saw practices and this setup have worked very well. Kickback tends to come from ignorant setups and careless practices. Although I enjoy your video tips on woodworking, I'm surprised at your efforts to scare us to the Bow.
@CordellWoodworks
@CordellWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos but while I agree the Bow is best, I think you did the Hedgehog a disservice by tightening only one prong against the board and then pushing through (causing the spinning). If you place the board almost to the blade and get a bunch of prongs tight to the board, you SHOULDN’T have had these issues (possible poor quality assurance not withstanding). I never have the mentioned issues with my hedgehog. That being said I asked Santa for a Bow for Christmas 😊
@jimserhant7741
@jimserhant7741 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another amazingly informative video. I love my Bow feather boards & fence pro for my Bosch 4100XC-10. Bow actually offers 2 different levels of foam finger stiffness that are interchangeable to suit your needs. An option one doesn’t have on the others.
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Matt, I like the foam one. The following is tangent to the testing. Couple notes on how I enhanced my Hedgehog. Add layer or two of tape to the sides of the miter slot lock. I used hockey tape*. This drastically improved movement in the slot. Add some thin rubber (I used some old bicycle tube) between the yellow part and miter lock and the washer. This helps keep the hedgehog in place. In my opinion these slight changes improves the product greatly. Not sure why there little bits of material were not here in some way from the start other than to keep cost down. Without them it was nearly unusable for me. With them it is great. *I follow Rob Cosman. He uses hockey tape for stuff now and again so I put i in my arsonal. Another good option is carpet tape. Colin Knetch seems to use that from time to time. That might work better than the bicycle tube.
@featherboards1565
@featherboards1565 2 жыл бұрын
Lincoln, thanks for the comment and for the feedback. It sounds like you've solved the problem but for miter slots that are loose, you can try two things: 1. Holding the Hedgehog in your hand, tighten the knob A LOT which helps flare out the miter clamp. Sometimes that's enough. 2. If that didn't work, you can flare out the miter clamp by inserting a flat screwdriver into the gap in the miter clamp and giving it a twist. It doesn't take much. Brett
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 жыл бұрын
@@featherboards1565 Thanks for the info! It is much appreciated
@goodscustomfurniture
@goodscustomfurniture 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt. That’s really helpful. I hope you, Amy, and Everyone have a Wonderful and Blessed Day!!! 😀🙏🙏😀
@twopoolpeople
@twopoolpeople Жыл бұрын
I was taught that a featherboard is for helping to keep the board being cut against the fence and one mounted facing down to prevent lifting. A SPLITTER or RIVING KNIFE should always be used to prevent kickback.
@id744
@id744 Жыл бұрын
This also demonstrated the importance of a riving knife
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if saw stop made it to where the disposable actuator fires to prevent a potentially fatal kickback from occurring not just saving fingers.
@CountDabulaTV
@CountDabulaTV 2 ай бұрын
10:00 I'm sorry but is the woodgrain dancing to the music right now?
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Yes it was 🤣
@BRS91776
@BRS91776 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power. Thank you, sir I now know what to get.
@kencoleman7762
@kencoleman7762 2 жыл бұрын
I installed the Jessem Clear-cut device and it works extremely well. It prevents kickback and helps hold stock tightly against the fence both before the blade and after the blade. I recommend them highly.
@ScottS360
@ScottS360 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE these comparison videos, especially when they involve "garage science"! I'd like to see you repeat the "pull" tests with the JessEm Stock Guides you previously reviewed. I know the JessEm's primary purpose is different but I'm curious to know just how much it helps with kickback in addition to the precision it provides. Keep up the great work!
@mattbendzinski4945
@mattbendzinski4945 2 жыл бұрын
I own the green one. The biggest issue I have is that some saws have very little space between the front of the saw and the blade. I actually found it VERY hard to use because of this. Seems like the hedgehog might be the best because it only has one tie down. However, I do prefer the green one because it is foam and replacing those would be cheaper than buying a whole new unit (if the plastic teeth break). Just my humble two cents.
@andrealavigne7824
@andrealavigne7824 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Bow. Just an FYI, when I entered your coupon code at Taylor Toolworks, I got an error message that it wasn't valid. Thankfully, I had another code that got me the same discount. Not sure what the problem was, but you might want to check on that. Anyway, thank you for showing all these tests. Really helpful. Have a great day!
@barryinn1778
@barryinn1778 2 жыл бұрын
The test cutting the feather boards WITHOUT the riving knife is surely going to cause kick back, that was a ridiculous test, has nothing to do with feather boards.
@timrothgeb416
@timrothgeb416 2 жыл бұрын
You state that the foam feather board allows the wood to move a small amount before really locking in and yet you still use the force numbers from the first movement. You should use the numbers from when the feather board fully engages because this is the true resistance to kickback.
@mikec2810
@mikec2810 2 жыл бұрын
Matt thanks for doing this! I was thinking about the Hedgehog for a second featherboard but I think I will get another Bow!
@mcmathwoodworks
@mcmathwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tests! Thank you for diving into this for us Matt!
@88rushrocks
@88rushrocks 2 жыл бұрын
As always thanks for the video’s I look forward to seeing them. Eph 2:8 nice
@ABNestor
@ABNestor 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I especially liked how you setup your tests to get empirical data out of it - even if your final conclusion felt more subjective that strictly based on the data - but I agree with your conclusion so you won't get any argument from me (I use a Bow featherboard and love it). One other advantage of the Bow featherboards that you didn't mention (but you did show it), is that the foam feathers can be replaced when worn or damaged. In the case of the Powertec and Hedgehog products (as well as most hand made featherboards) you have to replace the entire unit.
@dominikfratczak8710
@dominikfratczak8710 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm not a believer I Liked at first 30 seconds just because of your t-shirt. Subbed too
@jdwht2455
@jdwht2455 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and info regardless of others critiques.👍👍I generally use either my home made or a conventional Jessem. I can assure you that a kickback hurts as attested to a scar on my wrist from a 1/4x2x6 inch piece which in my moment of carelessness. That hedgehog has a design flaw in that the tightening knob should be reverse threaded. Your video actually shows it starting to loosen a bit while doing your testing
@brenperkins3117
@brenperkins3117 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I really like the tests and how you applied the same conditions for each product. Out of curiosity, have you used the Bow FP5 (the smaller version with only one hold down)? Wondering how well it stays in place without the second miter bar (my saw is a job site and the full size Bow looks kinda wide) Thanks as always for the great video!
@jacquesdarc2267
@jacquesdarc2267 2 жыл бұрын
Featherboards are what I call the ideal woodworkers' tools that was bought but never used. Honestly, I don't see woodworkers taking the time to do the proper set up with any featherboards as they take the place where your left hand should be there to guide the board. Featherboards only apply side pressure but does noting to hold the board down. In the ideal world, yes we should use jigs to support our work but people are too lazy. I have trained students (age 10 to 84) in my shop for years without the need of featherboards or gripper push stick or fancy gadgets to do proper rip cuts on cabinet style 3hp tablesaw. Proper training with a procedure I created prevents kickbacks and cuts
@barryinn1778
@barryinn1778 2 жыл бұрын
I have been woodworking for 50 years and almost never needed one. The only time you would need one is on a shaper machine or a router table, that is essential. Other than that you don't need it. And if I did I made my own.
@TheTrainStationOG
@TheTrainStationOG 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a particular tool you have a fondness for or just continually find to be useful?
@WackyKayaky
@WackyKayaky 2 жыл бұрын
The bow one with the vertical jig is genius. I struggle sometimes with longer stock since I have the DWE7491 and it looks like that set up would be one of the most affordable fixes for me
@rikityrik
@rikityrik 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive!
@raymondbunkofske4702
@raymondbunkofske4702 2 жыл бұрын
You do know that feather boards aren’t intended as safety devices? They may help a bit but they’re not really set up for that regardless of what some marketeer may say. They’re great for guiding the boards through and I use them almost all the time. Putting the splitter back in place would have likely eliminated the kickback you got.
@jeffprice3523
@jeffprice3523 2 жыл бұрын
Very timely information for me personally as I was about to purchase a hedgehog featherboard. I’m now looking at the “Magswitch”. Any thoughts/input on this one?
@hawaiithomson
@hawaiithomson 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should have compared the commercial versus the shop made. You never know. Maybe hickory would be the winner.
@alvinclose8181
@alvinclose8181 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and I love your shirt
@ronswoodshack
@ronswoodshack 2 жыл бұрын
More great information. Thanks Mighty Matt!!
@robmedina211
@robmedina211 2 жыл бұрын
Never have had a issue in my 7 years
@budd5607
@budd5607 2 жыл бұрын
Love your shirt 💙
@charliecash8661
@charliecash8661 Жыл бұрын
Where's your riving knife?
@jimbetzing3587
@jimbetzing3587 2 жыл бұрын
Great test! I was planning on purchasing a feather board. For a minute I thought I was watching "project farm".
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Call me Project Redneck lol
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 2 жыл бұрын
you said the plastic ones mar the wood but that edge is getting cut off so it doesn't matter. also your kickback test was inconclusive because none of the feather boards were in contact with the wood at the time it tried to kick back. so you basically had no kickback protection. and couldn't properly test each product with those testing perimeters. essentially the board was too short.
@robbrown6667
@robbrown6667 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Jessum Clearcut guides!
@ChatBot1337
@ChatBot1337 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know why, but as soon as the fb's were being sacrificed I was looking forward to the foam. It didn't disappoint. Plop.
@jimjackson9381
@jimjackson9381 2 жыл бұрын
I have been doing woodworking for over 50 years and have never used one, and have never had a problem, you just need to listen to that little voice in the back of your head and take your time.
@Bob.Silverstein
@Bob.Silverstein 2 жыл бұрын
That's like saying you've been driving without a seatbelt for 50 years and never got in an accident. The safety gear is for when you're unlucky, which eventually everyone is.
@jimjackson9381
@jimjackson9381 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bob.Silverstein No actually I’ve been driving for 55 years and I still don’t wear a seatbelt that’s just me.
@Cleanshave50
@Cleanshave50 Жыл бұрын
As a construction supervisor, I can attest to the fact that not everyone on this earth has that little voice
@livingtree21
@livingtree21 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@DiscoveryDarks
@DiscoveryDarks 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a silly request... but I'm about to pull my own hair out. I got a stanly shop vacuum "STANLEY SL18701P-10A" a while back. After struggling with it trying to make it fit in the ports for my saw and other tools I finally decided to buy one of those "different size nossle kits" from a big box store. I tried them all and none of them fit anything. For example the one hose that came with the vacuum is too small for my 10" kobalt table saw, when I want to use it I literally have to push it inside my saw until it gets tight. I'm wondering if you have some sort of "be all end all" solution for this, I saw a few attachments on amazon that seem to be rubberized and kinda grip around any size attachment points but I'd just love to hear your thought and opinion on the matter before I go out and buy anything.
@mishellekochel4510
@mishellekochel4510 2 жыл бұрын
Never had one until ATL woodworker show and bought the BOW. I did not feel comfortable with the hard plastic. I just didn't feel safe. Love the BOW brand items. Thanks for another great vid!
@merikatools568
@merikatools568 10 ай бұрын
On dodgey cuts i just have one of the neighbor kids hold the work piece in place
@babounous
@babounous 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I put the Hedgehog on my "Wish List" last April, based on another reviewer.....but after seeing this, I've deleted it from my Wish List and replaced it with the Bow. The fact that the Hedgehog loosened itself during cuts in your video was a deal-breaker.....ugh.
@featherboards1565
@featherboards1565 2 жыл бұрын
Bryan, as I (designer of the Hedgehog) commented above, if you adjust it before inserting the board, it will rotate out if you've got it turned into the board too much. This can be particularly helpful if you're cutting a board with a rough, uneven edge that you're trimming off - if you start with the narrow end of the board first, the Hedgehog will rotate out as the board gets wider while still maintaining pressure against the fence and providing kickback reduction. Traditional featherboards simply jam up in that situation. I hope you'll see other video reviews and Amazon reviews that are more positive. Brett
@babounous
@babounous 2 жыл бұрын
@@featherboards1565 Thanks for that info, Brett. I didn't know that the Hedgehog was designed for that purpose....uneven-edged boards. What I liked about it, initially, was its "reach" in that I could use it not only on my router table, but also on the table saw. I have two "traditional" plastic Bosch featherboards that came with my Bosch router table, but they're too small to use on my DeWalt contractor table saw for thin-rip cuts. I'll put the Hedgehog back on my Christmas "wish list"....maybe my sister will get it for me, lol. :)
@baddog4347
@baddog4347 2 жыл бұрын
Well looks like I can take the hedge hog off my short list, I’m going with the bow, thanks for this test 👊🏻
@featherboards1565
@featherboards1565 2 жыл бұрын
Bummer ☹️
@rikityrik
@rikityrik 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, if you are up to it id like you to do a CA glue comparison, or at least Bob Smith’s vs Starbond👍
@Damon_Barber
@Damon_Barber 2 жыл бұрын
First Comment!!! Hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving!
@nickbrutanna9973
@nickbrutanna9973 2 жыл бұрын
Good work... you can probably also look at Project Farm for some ideas of how to come up with tests... He does this kind of thing as his primary target (but a much wider array of "what" than just woodworking tools), and is pretty inventive at stuff he comes up with and how to construct them.
@golfaddict5276
@golfaddict5276 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the blade being raised up against the side of the wood helped the "Bow Featherboard" achieve the 88 LBS side pull? Thanks for the Bow's build up.
@tomtillman
@tomtillman Жыл бұрын
No riving knife and don't hold the board down. Of course it's going to kick back. What's your point?
@bremg9185
@bremg9185 2 жыл бұрын
Like the content but the poster and the t-shirt..
@5280Woodworking
@5280Woodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I use my traditional Magswitch with my Jessem guides. Works for me 99% of the time. The last two experiments were making my palms sweat LOL!
@johngibson540
@johngibson540 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your attempt at scientific comparison. Don’t want to be spoil sport but these tests are flawed in the following ways. 1 - no featherboard will prevent kickback if the board is so short that it no longer engages with the featherboard. 2 - The point of the bow is that the teeth will move back to engage and prevent kickback - you measured the point when the boards first moved which is not the point.
@daifeichu
@daifeichu 2 жыл бұрын
I've never used the Bow or the Hedgehog but for the price it seems like the Bow would be the winner due to the fact you can replace the foam fingers. That stackable one that Bow has looks interesting as well. I made my own featherboard. It goes onto the rail that the fence locks into. I got the idea from another youtuber.
@aux1z11
@aux1z11 2 жыл бұрын
Magswitch and Gripper work great together
@ed9958
@ed9958 Жыл бұрын
feather boards are great, but, $39 for a piece of plastic !! Comon man!!
@Chaosweaver-1
@Chaosweaver-1 2 жыл бұрын
Ever witness a planer kickback, it's like drinking a gallon of energy drink all at once.
@Taliesen.
@Taliesen. 2 жыл бұрын
Your vertical featherboard would likely have prevented that big kickback.
@michiganracer1181
@michiganracer1181 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used the bow feather boards for some time, work great and don’t mar the wood. Should have ended with showing the roller style on the fence. That will work on both sides of the blade
@user-dz6zd2sk5c
@user-dz6zd2sk5c 2 жыл бұрын
I have the hedge hog. I like it BUT you have to put a few layers of ac duct foil tape on the expanding slider. I think I put on two or three layers. Then when I tighten the knob it’s rock solid. It shouldn’t have to need the tape but once you add it it works as advertised
@backoutthecarandwoodwork
@backoutthecarandwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the hedgehog could possibly perform a little better on the other side of the blade. On the right side of the blade the pressure from the wood may slightly tighten the knob. On the left side of the blade it has a counter-clockwise loosening effect.
@vmoutsop
@vmoutsop 2 жыл бұрын
I say take a traditional featherboard and coat it with Plasti-Dip.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Jimc4007
@Jimc4007 2 жыл бұрын
I would have been too nervous to do that test with my Sawstop! Afraid I might accidentally set it off at the cost of a new brake and blade! 😫😫😫
@Splash111
@Splash111 2 жыл бұрын
I subscribed just because of you Tshirt verbiage.
@evilgenius3646
@evilgenius3646 2 жыл бұрын
If the hedgehog had some sort of spring tension, you wouldn't need to adjust it AND it would increase holding pressure the more the board was kicked back
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