Object-oriented cutting or Kidori | One of the most Difficult Woodworking Processes you have to face

[@damiensampson7323]

I absolutely love the Japanese traditional craftspeople for their reverence for wood and the care they take with organizing the slabs to be what they are going to be before the work is actually completed. They do such beautiful work and are done with such care and love for what they do.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you so much!

[@EliosMoonElios]

Reverence for dead wood after killing a trees than live for centuries. I see a documentary about how they do a giant drum and the first step was kill a 700 years old tree.

[@tombristowe846]

Don't want to pour cold water on this....Oh, I suppose I do really, but taking grain direction into account, to get quarter-sawn for stability for instance, or bookmatching etc, is absolutely basic for a woodworker. We do it all the time. There are many interesting and ingenious aspects to Japanese woodworking but I don't think this is one of them.

[@FMeyer-zg5mg]

exactly.

[@lohikarhu734]

But, regardless, it is a part of their process, and does require some forethought and skill...

[@guillermozepeda9967]

I was going to say..."So, the sawmill, then?"

[@rmcnabb]

Yeah I'm not seeing the difficulty here. I love that wide blade bandsaw though. And gorgeous wood, too.

[@vincentcoppola9832]

I guess it's a revolutuonary idea for some people.

[@lelandlewis7207]

I make pens as well as other wood projects and love working with wood. My favourite thing is going to the wood store and looking through all of the boards, admiring the colours and grains, looking for the right pieces. I have to be able to "see" a pen in the wood before I buy it or sometimes I buy a piece because of the beauty and then, sometimes months later, I realize that piece is perfect for the design I have in mind. It is also surprising how you start turning with a shape in mind, but as the grain is revealed, the shape can change to accentuate that grain. I also enjoy working with acrylics, but wood is my favourite because it is "warm" and each piece has "character" that you bring out in the final product.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

WOW, That is one step toward being a great craftsman, I believe you can do it!

[@Trindal]

This sawmill work get overlooked so much in life. It’s a hard job and to do high end wood cutting require high end tools. Even the guys you don’t see in this video play an important part. My family was involved in everything from cutting a tree down to actually running a family owned an ran sawmill. That includes grading logs, Transportation, and running a log yard to sell logs to other companies. The easiest thing we cut was railroad ties. If you had the best logs it was 4 simple cuts. Most of the time it was 8 or more to make use of the off cuts which took more effort but landed the biggest amount of money per log. We where paid by the board foot and it was a good day to make $30 as the lowest paid and hardest manual labor required position the off barrier. Which had to manually roll the logs up to the mill, clean sawdust from the mill and off the deck area we had to walk and carry every piece cut. Wether it was bark or 50 pound crazy shaped pieces up to 18 feet long. And move all lumber cut into stacks to be bundled and operate the loaders to move the logs and lumber around. I was so happy when I got out of that job and began running the sawmill. Went up to $50 a day. Now I thank god I got out of that profession all together. The only one that really made a living was the owner of the mill. For such hard work it just wasn’t worth it. But no car means you work where you can and that was within walking distance.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you for taking the time to tell us your story that makes me emotional. I know many friends who also do this job in lumber factories, They get paid $40-$50/day which is considered low compared to other manual labor jobs.

[@benjaminknopf4699]

I continue to love your documentary work. Your miya-daiku videos are great and this is a wonderful look into some of the less known areas of woodworking.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you very much!

[@ebenbaker1]

Did anyone else not really learn anything from this?

[@cbalan777]

Very nice. Are they cutting those slabs to dry or are they already dry and ready to use?

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

they already dried out this log for a year before cut for use, after that they leave them out for another year to be hit by sunlight, snow, and rain in order to remove the lye

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

watching this will help you understand what I said kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHy1ZXeAotasraM

[@cbalan777]

@@WoodworkingEnthusiasts I appreciate the response. Thank you. I'll give that video a watch.

[@BurninSven1]

This is done all over the world not only in Japan

[@kayura77]

Your point is well taken. The practice of woodworking *is* the practice of appreciating grain direction. I must say though, even including every KZbinr I've watched, I have never seen anyone in the United States or Canada mark wood for cutting with ink as a standard practice. Definitely not ink from an ink pot. 😉

[@kepinpin5277]

I was expecting object-oriented coding but now I think I want to be a carpenter instead

[@Bedevere]

Wait - is that guy pushing the whole contraption into the bandsaw with him on it? The whole contraption is cool except the part where you are slowly pushing yourself toward the blade.

[@widgetno1]

Fundamental basic woodwork

[@neplatnyudaj110]

Every woodworker knows this shit. But when you put it in nice eloquent sentences with epic music, you get secret ancient japanese craft.

[@XerosXIII]

4:55 i dont think that meant to be happen :x mindblowning awesome precision on calculate and cutting

[@elijahide9880]

Me - a software developer; KZbin - yeah i know what you're talking about! Ya know stuff with the special wood cutting??

[@SidneyPatrickson]

So... respecting the essence of the wood... or how everyone else calls it.. to know the basics about how wood grows. My barista respects the essence of the bean and uses skillful and precise grinding to get the powder to the exact size so the oils and flavor come out perfectly balanced. Its one of the most basic woodworking processes you have to face.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

yeah, totally!

[@jeremiahshine]

👍 Characteristics of species and grain.

[@gonzalezea]

This channel videos are wonderful, except for tecno-disco music chosen to substitute original sounds.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

well sorry for the hassle!

[@G58]

FOUR ADVERTS in just four and a half minutes, and still more to come!!???? Monetising your vids is one thing, but this many just ruins the experience. Don’t blame GooTube. You chose the level of monetisation.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

so sorry for the hassle sir, if a video is shorter 8mins it can't change anything of the monetization setting

[@G58]

Woodworking Enthusiasts Thank you for your explanation. We need an alternative to GooTube. In 2007-2009 I was in talks with all the big tech companies about a dot com I was planning to launch. I had seed money and venture capital set up. Back then I was assured that KZbin videos would always be hosted for free and never interrupted with ads. They lied. But one company I needed to partner with got bought by M$, so I shelved the whole thing, passing up millions. Back then I thought M$ was the worst possible tech company, but Google has become much worse. I look forward to the day when one of the alternative platforms becomes good enough to entice a mass migration away from Google, and one day they go bust. Peace

[@db4423]

why is Zentreya narrating this kidory

[@rapidrrobert4333]

Quarter sawing

[@singinginthedark2786]

well this started out interesting, then turned into watching guys in lumber mill for the majority of the video, i get that wood cutting is the purpose of the video, but no one bothers to explain what the log is being cut for even, which i find really stupid since Kidori is all about cutting for a specific object. what were they cutting giant logs for? why are they so thick? what will they be used for or made into? with that questions asked, i give this video a resounding 0 stars for lack of information and being outright boring while not giving information

[@threefeetofair758]

I found myself contemplating the overbearing dominance of familiarity. What are my expectations? Why do I expect that experience? With information delivered from a different cultural perspective, am I yet able to appreciate it?

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Sorry, that sucks

[@allencummings7564]

Cedar is a very light weight, soft wood. Likely it is cut so thick so that it is still very strong. That's what I do with our northeastern USA cedar.

[@walteralter9061]

Could benefit from the use of a standard carpenter's pencil.

[@anrigagiev6302]

🤚👐🔥💥💣🎨💪👍👍👍👍

[@ghlscitel6714]

This is every day business of for example violin makers - since centuries. Nothing special.

[@mobilfone2234]

and Luthiers..... ;-) basic knowledge ....

[@ekko9397]

This is nothing special. It's done all over the world. I do it myself as a wood carver. No biggie.

[@LordMcGray]

This is in now way comparable to mass production of boards in huge volume saw mills. I just recently saw a documentary about one in the USA or Canada, where they in now way handled the material with the care shown here. The low amount of saw dust and other debris from cutting is one exmple, where this sawmill differs also by a lot from western type mills.

[@ekko9397]

@@LordMcGray I'm not comparing it to mass production. I know my sawmill and I get the best wood for my art.

[@FMeyer-zg5mg]

@@LordMcGray a documentary wont fix the lack of knowledge of a rookie. there are far more aspects.