Wooting 60HE.. Why I Stopped Using Custom Keyboards... FOR GAMING!

[@Wooting]

The team is thrilled with your opinion and that you carved out the time mid production . We spent a lot of time refining our ideas and picking up on what matters from our community. If you have any rattle on your model, you can push in the excess lube resting on the stabilizer. We have add a generous amount at production, but nothing beats a diy. Thanks a lot for the recommendation!

[@GiLLyMGL]

TKL version please

[@igxis]

@@GonexW 75% >

[@Johan-vs2jq]

98% >>>>>

[@sidvicious4701]

Any restock please

[@SharkWithADrill]

1800 layout>>>🤤

[@MrZeroSeventy]

If you "feel" like your custom might have small delays look for a 1khz firmware for it, most customs released this and last year should have one, as more and more people started asking for it, and QMK themselves moved to make a 1khz standard when compiling firmware. Should solve any potential delays as it bumps the polling rate from 125 or 250 to 1k.

[@legohp7]

yup, so long as the repositories are there a quick edit to the files and compiling a firmware using QMK MSYS (or equivalent) will allow most customs to hit 1khz.

[@BTaesthetics]

I'll look more into it. Sounds like a great idea for a video :) Do you have any links you could share? Thanks!

[@Venastra7]

@@BTaesthetics No need to edit anything since QMK 0.16.0 (26.02.2022) default polling rate is 1000 Hz and devs removed all lines with USB_POLLING_INTERVAL_MS from their GitHub repository. Since then any precompiled firmware or QMK Configurator should work but for VIA or VIAL support You have to compile Your own firmware with QMK MSYS, QMK WSL. Procedure is simple but preparing build environment and working with GIT isn't. If You don't care just run QMK COMPILE -KB -KM and flash with QMK Toolbox. You can also adjust debounce time, algorithm, keys per scan and probably other settings I don't know. Disabling RGB should also reduce input latency but only 1 person on QMK Discord tested that. Same with 8000 Hz which also needs more testing. QMK Documentation (has a newbie guide) or QMK Discord is the best place to learn just because QMK changes often and most tutorials are outdated in some degree.

[@s1pps]

Gonna try this because I felt exactly like my custom felt slow. I still would like to get wooting keyboard but definitely will try this

[@ilikehiking]

The fact that the Wooting can detect the very moment you're releasing the switch and proceeds to send an upstroke is simply too much of an advantage. Not to mention how you can customize actuation points, and even program multiple inputs into a single stroke. I cannot justify using my custom anymore which REALLY pisses me off, because I do not like linear switches, I do not like the 60% formfactor, and I do not like plastic keyboards. Function over form though, so as Brandon said, time to get in the trenches and get dirty while hoping that the custom keyboard crowd catches onto the analog switches trend.

[@nucket_]

to my knowledge the pcb can fit in a lot of custom 60% cases, so u can have both custom and gaming keeb

[@The_Rock_That_Floats]

Interesting.. Which types?

[@yuzhe7540]

@@The_Rock_That_Floats cases with tofu60 mounting points.

[@The_Rock_That_Floats]

@@yuzhe7540 ah nice, got a few of those laying around lol, thanks!

[@IOSam]

Even though "sound" is not the point of this keyboard, I gotta say I was positively impressed with my copy. It might be the best sounding production keyboard I ever tried (and the stabs in my copy came very well tuned --again, for a production keyboard). Razers and Steelseries don't stand a chance against the 60HE in performance, in sound and SPECIALLY in the quality of the software. Really incredible what this Dutch team pulled off here!

[@popsbis1891]

For a bit of a price though hey. It would cost me Aud$340. My Huntsman mini cost $85. Sure, there is way more features on the wooting but I aint no pro either and money is damn tight these days. I'll wait for a cheaper copy to hit the market as this tech is going to be the latest fashion in gaming kb's, me thinks.

[@IOSam]

​@@popsbis1891 Yeap... It sure is expensive! And yeah... I'd be surprised if Razer and Steelseries engineers are not working overtime now to bring similar functionality to their next batch of gaming boards.

[@emsj86]

@@IOSam end of the day it’s cool but let’s be real we are not pros. I rather a custom keyboard

[@IOSam]

​@@emsj86 Hehe... I'm definitely not a pro gamer! 😂 And, while I love the novelty factor (and the innovation!), yeah... For normal peeps likes us (that don't have the God like reflexes of Mr. Taylor here) a custom board will bring the bacon where it counts: typing experience for our day-to-day chores...

[@von2046]

looking forward for your 2h detailed video about this keyboard lol

[@trgdyfps]

I like that you acknowledge that the keyboard can be highly be customizable and that it's a GAMING KEYBOARD. There's too many people crying that the swtiches, keycaps, etc can be forced into the custom keyboard aesthetics. Wooting wanted to make the best GAMING keyboard with endless customization. Not another custom keyboard.

[@hellooperator6639]

I dig it a lot. Not a fan of 60% though. Once they come out with a 65% or 75%, I'm in.

[@yogichopra6606]

You can customize and profile the keyboard to be a like a 65 or 75 percent board, while only having the 60 percent profile

[@04_ruizatanedy24]

they already make tkl and full size

[@Tacet137]

75% please

[@Tony_zr]

@@yogichopra6606 who cares maybe he just wants his extra keys for crying out loud.

[@ilikehiking]

@@yogichopra6606 Programming a 60% board is not an equal option to having extra keys available. Perhaps it isn't detrimental to your use case, but for a lot of other use cases it is absolutely detrimental.

[@maxmouse3]

The switches are very smooth, they are contactless and even lubed. In my experience, they are on pair with Steelseries and better than any previous contact switch that I ever tested :) This keyboard is very nice :D I like that their software is web based and you don't need to install it like iCue or Synapse:)

[@Rev0ltTTV]

Is there a tactile version of the lekker switch?

[@defranken]

@@Rev0ltTTV nope there is not, not yet anyway

[@bobshanery5152]

Be warned the Web version does not always play nice and I found it often easier just to download and install the software. Depends greatly on your computer set up/antivirus etc Software is good so no issues with installing it. Does not waste resources or anything else absurd.

[@Frozoken]

​@@Rev0ltTTVits not really possible afaik by nature of being hall effect. It's just measuring how close the magnet on the underside of your keycap is to the bottom, that's it lol. Theres nothing mechanical in it for tactility to happen

[@valervan]

I'm wishing that more custom keyboard brands would get into the magnetic switch design and start doing some exciting stuff in gaming space as well. To truly shake the industry.

[@xcas9]

This is the reason why I have dedicated keyboard for gaming with 1Khz polling rate, I use the fasteste mech switches and just game on it, and I use a different keyboard for productivity and such.

[@HeSo_71]

No way the switch idea is actually a game changer. But if we got too used to it, going back to the regular mx style mechanics it will be weird xd

[@frankrossi3524]

Never had an issue gaming on my customs... but just pulled the trigger on this thing

[@BTaesthetics]

You’re gonna feel the difference.. thanks for watching Frank!

[@SAMMZ1g]

When wooting makes a 65 that can pcb mount stabs, i will purchase :)

[@Triannosaurus]

I remember getting their first keyboard years ago but ended up returning it. I kinda regret it but, I can clearly see they have greatly improved from their first board. If I get this, I’d still customize it, change the key caps and maybe put it in a new case, maybe even lube the switches

[@bobshanery5152]

In my opinion this rapid fire technology seems very gimmicky. Not saying its bad to have and it can have benefits but for games like Val/CS/Warzone/FPS etc I do not see this being that significant if you already have a fast activating switch. The video he did of strafing. You could do that on an old membrane keyboard. What you really want is how quickly the keys activate. Wooting can be set at 0.1 to 4.0mm. In comparison most fast keyboards have 2.0mm red switches or sliver speeds which are around 1.0mm. You are barely touching the keys. Rapid fire can be more of a benefit if you are constantly pushing all the way down on the keys. It could remove that small delay of the keys coming back up but I hardly see this mattering in FPS games. In games where you button mash this could be substantial. Test it with your finger... Press your finger on your desk and lift up and down off the desk now do the same but only remove pressure while keeping your finger on the desk. You can now press significantly faster and its less difficult. I imagine some fighting games or music type games that require constantly pressing the same keys would greatly benefit from rapid fire....However in FPS games you do not spam strafe for long periods of time. Your hands should not get tired and you should not be constantly bottoming out your keys. Having fast activating switches and remembering to lightly press your keys will have similar results as the Wooting. If rapid fire is your only real justification to buy this keyboard (you don't care about analog in games, changing sensitivity (there is some other keyboards that do this already SteelSeries Apex pro/Razor, etc) and you only play Fps games I would pass on this keyboard. You can find much better usable features/quality with that money.

[@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx]

@@bobshanery5152say if i play league only, can i just get a tofu 65 and call it a day? Or will it not be as low latency as a razer or steelseries?

[@liability9413]

btw you can swap the keyboard into any 60% case like the tofu 60 and lubed the lekker switches badseedtech did a great video on this so you don’t have to completely give up custom keyboard’s

[@guy5140]

Lol true

[@IAM_Kammala]

He’s sponsoring the keyboard that why😑

[@main1033]

Sucks that the pcb/plate can't be bought alone

[@5ean5ean22]

@@IAM_Kammala the case sucks. Only thing people want is the PCB and Switches.

[@konrad8015]

I want the case as well. It’s easier to sell a keyboard than PCB plate alone. I will be using the stock case for some time for sure

[@frito0101]

Just ordered mine today, can't wait for this bad boy to (finally) arrive!! Another amazing video thanks BT

[@dathper]

For anyone wondering, you can lube this and switch the case to a aftermarket one so you can make it almost as good as a custom

[@liability9413]

wooting goated fr innovation is crazy from them

[@maolcogi]

I'm upgrading from a Wooting Two HE I got less than a month ago after seeing how amazing the 60HE is. It's amazing to me how many features this board has and how good it sounds, it has no right to sound so good stock ... I can't wait to get mine and find some cool mods to make it super thocky.

[@Mudes126]

The wooting is pre order till January lmfao how would I get ut

[@maolcogi]

@@Mudes126 pre-order it and wait til January. I'm waiting til December for mine supposedly.

[@Mudes126]

@@maolcogi ok yeah do you know if it's easy to remove the case and or pcb? If I want to add tape mod

[@jamieeddolls5605]

aren't they the exact same keyboard, one just has more keys?

[@Clumrat]

@@jamieeddolls5605 They are the same except for size. I have no clue what this guy is on about, maybe he has the previous gen Wooting Two.

[@JR88]

I did 0.1mm on A and D and boy the strafing...GOD status

[@MaskedOG]

I had the Wotting He two. Switches and firmware was amazing and hands down the best thing. But my keys were wobbling so hard i had to give it back... I bought some aftermarked stablisers(DUROCK Smokey) and they are solving the stock ones issue. Preordered the 60% and cant wait top get my lekker swithces and rapidtriger back.

[@ilyryot]

Am I the only one who read the title as "Why I Stopped Using Gaming Keyboards... FOR GAMING!"

[@kwokadoodle]

Loved this video :) so glad to be back and seeing the videos back on the recommended, so close to 200K!!

[@BTaesthetics]

Thanks for all the support Gordon!

[@PradyumnVij]

Interesting, would be great if it came in HHKB layout, but I guess I already have 6 of those 🤣.

[@seegee7571]

this is defintiely your best sounding board - beats all your customs

[@OutlawNix]

I been using full size mechanical keyboard since they became popular for gamers. After thinking I decided to ditch the full size keyboard and go with a 60% mechanical keyboard so I bought one. Got it today and so far I'm enjoying the new keyboard even tried it on some games which it did good on. My lube station should be here tomorrow sometime at which point I will lube the switched and do some mods on it.

[@mike_nba]

imagine getting into the inconvenience to change keyboards every now and then just to switch from game mode to office mode. customs are overrated and is a hobby . Technology and optical/analog switches overcomes the customs. its just for the sound

[@mbj920]

my razer huntsman mini keys felt heavy. They've changed them from what your older version has. I wish they kept them light.

[@OmnipotentO]

"that shit is hacks" lmao damn and here I thought I was done with keyboards... It's a shame it's pre-order only. Really wish it was on amazon. Hopefully down the line

[@GoldenEagle0007]

if u want that custom feel lube it and change case. switches are factory lubed but with manual lubing they sound way better and stabilizer's are nicely factory lubed.

[@5ean5ean22]

Eh.... I just cant go back to plastic keyboards. I would just put the PCB into a tray mount custom. They would make a killing just selling PCBs and switches.

[@vieavona318]

The PCB of the Wooting HE is compatible with standard 60% cases, so it's no problem to use something like a tofu case.

[@5ean5ean22]

@@vieavona318 i know.... but 175 dollars for a PCB is a no go.

[@main1033]

@@vieavona318 The problem is we just want the pcb though;/

[@vieavona318]

@@5ean5ean22 PCB, switches and software, but yeah

[@vieavona318]

@@main1033 You can't use the PCB with anything other than the Lekker switches though

[@eakmadashma]

Goated keyboard, could already tell Wooting were straight gs when they gave out double movement software for free but man this keyboard with rapid trigger is insane. My strafes in quake and apex are literally instant, fortnite editing was crazy, and cs counter strafing was noticeably faster that I can get that standing accuracy faster than my opponent.

[@itsthedolo126]

'Lekker' finally someone said it right

[@antxiety]

Remember on stream i said "I feel like i know what keyboard you're using but ima wait until you upload the video" and i was right it's the wooting board

[@supertrexandroidx]

Man, really tempted by this keyboard. The only issue for me is that it looks a little thick, and I need new keyboard that I can rest on my lap to use. I suspect this one might be a strain on my wrist after a while, since I might have to angle it up some to type on this. Could make for some sore fingers, too. Would be nice if they made this in a version that was as thin as something like the Fnatic Streak.

[@RandomGuy-ld7gs]

"Go buy it rn" won't be delivered until april lol

[@MrGone60]

Wonderful video man, but if I may ask, what camera and lens do you use? The depth of field, composition and colors are amazing!!

[@timbillins1848]

The take control tag is God awful but other than that, this looks kinda perfect

[@Ciz4Crummy]

That 7V at the beginning of the video ...... sheeeeesh!

[@cinnamonboy3893]

Good thing is you can put this pcb in any 60% custom case

[@utubeb14]

Hopefully more sizes to come.

[@Abstracted_Fleetway]

i think everyone that has a wooting had at some point used the razer huntsman

[@PGFuto]

This Keyboard looks great and really wondering how this switches feels like, unfortunately they're out of stock... What mouse are you using in this video? 1:41' Great Video editing, really enjoyable to watch!

[@Shinstrikex]

I want this keyboard but my God the wait for it lol. I wish it was on amazon

[@andehyo]

Waiting for your Wooting in a Tofu case with GMK keycaps video! :D

[@xanira6367]

its kinda tempting for me, but i would rather have a custom all the time. im too used to the luxuries of custom keyboards :#

[@BTaesthetics]

Still use mine like 90% of the time but this is too good not to use

[@potatosmasher1072]

You can still swap the keycaps/case/lube the switches. The majority of mods should still be possible, aside from swapping switches ofc.

[@Triannosaurus]

I’m in the same boat but I’m thinking of just getting this for the pcb and just switch it out on my tofu build.

[@schtendo4464]

if you're watching this and thinking "damn this might actually make me better" NO. you were never going to be good at valorant and probably never will be and a keyboard isnt going to change that. just enjoy your keyboard.

[@nelforeign]

What character are you playing in Valorant? Is the game friendly for beginners? Also which game mode do you play?

[@g1zmo85]

I know this video is old but did you end up dropping this in a custom case and do any mods at all?

[@BTaesthetics]

yessir check out one of my latest videos :)

[@riceshakes]

i want to point out that the counter strafing portion of this video isn't entirely accurate. While this keyboard will definitely make it easier, a good player will be able to counter strafe just as consistently on a mechanical keyboard.

[@konrad8015]

Why suffer?

[@Nkroniis]

Do you think it's worth the upgrade from a cherry mx speed switches keyboard or not ?!

[@BTaesthetics]

1000%

[@bryfromportal]

what mouse was at 1:38?

[@KallMeChris]

Have you found it out? I was looking through the comments hoping someone ask the same thing

[@yugotek]

Can the other analog keyboard makers just push out an update to implement the cut off feature?

[@explosev6513]

damn I'd love a 65 percent version :'(

[@danthezulu7707]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this more of an issue of a heavy tactile versus a light linear more than custom versus gaming keyboard? Your custom was using holy pandas which are a tactile with a noticable bump, you could always just use a light linear like akko cs silvers.

[@5ean5ean22]

True. Pretty much use 55g lubed ThicThoc springs will all my switches. Only 10 dollars

[@chickenpasta7359]

If Wooting ever makes a gaming keypad like the Tartarus I will buy it day one. I like heavier switches for my keyboard so gaming on them isn't ideal and the Tartarus isn't that great for its price

[@HeyNavi]

They really need to release 68g springs. 60g for springs is too light for me

[@ZionMartin08]

what mouse was on your desk bt?

[@Shlurpo]

Noob question, but can you remap the number keys at the top to act as F keys?

[@sterbea]

So this was the keeb you were using last night on stream.

[@IIIRIVERZ]

Bro said this sh*t is hacked lol that sold me right there.. pre ordering now thanks man and great video!

[@BTaesthetics]

lmao enjoy Trey!

[@IIIRIVERZ]

@@BTaesthetics Thank you man! What kind of mouse is that in your video? It is DOPE. I have the superlight logitech and curious to if that one is something to look into or just keep what I have.

[@BTaesthetics]

@@IIIRIVERZ Thanks bro. the mouse in the video is the mz1 wireless! It's great but i still love the superlight more :)

[@IIIRIVERZ]

@@BTaesthetics ok thank you for your honest opinion brother! Have a good thanksgiving 😃

[@Unfaithfxlly]

Bruh when does yours come in? My shit get here early January😔.

[@PrivateTouch]

Step 1, buy Wooting, Step 2 Buy a Tofu60 Case, Step 3 Spend 7 hours like me lubbing switches to the perfection, Step 4 Mod the case with Step 5 - Stop buying more parts for custom keyboards because since Ive been using my Custom Wooting they just.. lay around.. worthless.

[@VitThetaun]

Can’t you just remove the switches from the Wooting Keyboard and use them in your custom keyboard? Or… is more complicated than that…?

[@Lemonpinesol]

no you cant, you need to use their pcb as the switch tech is unique to the wooting

[@VitThetaun]

@@Lemonpinesol Ok, thank you (:

[@potatosmasher1072]

@@Lemonpinesol This is true, although I have wondered if they’re still compatible with other modern Hall-Effect switch keyboards that also use the Gateron-based switch. That’s assuming that they’re still using the same exact switch design from the time of the full-size HE though.

[@emmLAdream]

I’m a competitive leaderboard valorant gamer with a cheap $50 keyboard. I struggled with the same problem of stopping too slow and losing all my duels which lead to me being super inconsistent. I ordered my 60HE and I am super excited to test it out especially against the best of the best players and can’t wait to see how it performs for me!!

[@theazool986]

Let me know how it works out

[@cheeseballs9579]

@@theazool986 won’t change nothing lol

[@Tony_zr]

dude its not gonna make you a pro. if you need to buy this keyboard just to become better then that says a lot about you.

[@emmLAdream]

@@Tony_zr cope

[@Neoncollects]

Too bad I can't get my hands on one! They're months out...

[@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese]

If Wooting releases a TKL version of this board they can take my 💴 🧐

[@aids1015]

whats ur mouse ive never seen a mouse with rgb like that

[@eigengrau2819]

So you don't use this one for gaming or do.... I didn't quite understand.. is this your custom or main gaming one?

[@JagsP95]

The title says for gaming. He says multiple times he switched to this keyboard full time for gaming.

[@benchking1]

this vs apex pro mini?

[@FreshJ1v3]

Nice shirt man!

[@ZAIBYR]

So…is your 60 HE customized now? Full circle, lol.

[@out-runner]

Right now I'm thinking, BT, what's that wallpaper you're using?

[@BTaesthetics]

I forgot where I got it. I’ll try to post a link in the discord

[@Moonwired]

Wouldn’t you achieve the exact same result just using these switches?

[@alvarofunez2447]

I'm really enjoying the keyboard, it costs every penny I pay for it

[@lazybread6920]

Do you stream ?

[@Wolfshagger]

LordOfMice Custom USB polling rate filters. Problem solved.

[@g1zmo85]

I need this keeb so bad

[@potatosmasher1072]

Tbh whatever you’re consistent with understanding and feeling is good enough. In my experience at least, I’ve noticed differences in mouse structure/quality far more. That said, I still love Wooting Keyboards and am glad to see them succeed.

[@g1zmo85]

@@potatosmasher1072 I need this keeb so bad

[@9core]

u think u can mod it to be compatible with o ring friction mount?

[@donapc7357]

I bought this keyboard can’t wait

[@concretecharlie51]

No fullsize??

[@cactusbite8269]

Nice video! If only this keyboard would be wireless. I need one for xbox.

[@mr.getitdone1451]

Just bought mine yesterday , how’s yours treating you these days still good ? Could you do a video on how to set it up to make it fast and things we should have on or off that would be dope

[@pate00711]

this keyboard is still customizable tho lmao

[@rometherevenant8749]

Wooting did great here.

[@deadewok02]

i see you flexing that riot gun buddy lol

[@razvanmuresan6683]

you can mount it in a alu case to feel and sound better

[@EF.BE.I]

it will interfere with the switch actuation and throw them off

[@tinocabral4201]

@@EF.BE.I no it won’t they literally advertised using different cases and swapping them out

[@liability9413]

had a feeling it was gonna be the wooting 60 watched your stream earlier today

[@BTaesthetics]

👀 you guessed right

[@jacob_wilson_236]

Hey i need help im looking for keyboard for long term and build it in the future any suggestions on a keyboard that is 75% with switchable everything budget 75 to 100$

[@liguy13]

Is it not just as good on something like apex pro mini? Because of the low actuation point?

[@j.m4a1]

The thing that makes this better is the rapid fire mode where you don’t have to completely wait for the “reset” of the switch.

[@placeholder3863]

you can use the software on a browser btw

[@emrysxs]

I am super early. Been thinking about getting this board but now that BT has switched to it I've made my choice.

[@ilyamiskov]

Congrats. This is how advertising wins people like you

[@emrysxs]

@@ilyamiskov ???? I never said I was gonna buy it

[@BTaesthetics]

He just hating. This keyboard is the truth. Trust

[@ilyamiskov]

@@BTaesthetics Not hating. Just saying how it works. When multiple reviewers put up videos about the same product at the same time, I can’t help but be suspicious about the legitimacy of reviewer’s opinion. This world is ruled by money.

[@potatosmasher1072]

Fr. Custom keyboards just look and feel nice. This can affect you for sure, but a genuinely interesting strategic advantage gained with objectively better hardware is far more appealing to me too.

[@香噴噴-p6f]

Once i thought 60% is the best for gaming but in the end i was being fooled by those youtubers , without those F rows and the spacing you cannot play and work properly at all , for me the best is TKL but 75% is acceptable.

[@rozefps]

this or the Xtrfy k5 with 2,000 polling rate/0.5 response time??

[@oJuu--]

What mouse is that?

[@flyingiceman]

Might be the Xtrfy MZ1 RGB Wireless - not 100% sure

[@PrymOW]

Yo BT! For someone that would want this in TKL, does the Wooting One have the same analog functions as the 60 he?

[@BTaesthetics]

wait for the HE TKL edition. I tried the full sized and i couldnt set the actuation point as high as I could on the 60HE.

[@PrymOW]

@@BTaesthetics I really appreciate the response bro! Btw I thought I subbed to you like 4 years ago but b4 my comment this morning it said I wasn't so I may be subbed to you on 2 diff YT accounts! You deserve it! Keep up the good work my guy!

[@BTaesthetics]

@@PrymOW aye! long time sub then! Appreciate it josh! Have a great weekend!

[@rhys6298]

Can you use the top numbers as fkeys ?

[@JakeP.90]

What mouse is that please? Thanks

[@BTaesthetics]

Mz1 wireless

[@GavxOnline]

is there a silent version? gf is tryna sleep

[@TomLuck]

Love this keyboard. Which actuation/trigger settings do you use for Valorant?

[@neonoir__]

He mentioned 1mm, 0.1 for rapid trigger

[@dude9237]

Anyone know what custom keyboard that is on the thumbnail? (Purple one)

[@dude9237]

Or even just the key cap set on it?

[@BTaesthetics]

keyboard is the kbdfans65 with gmk skeletor keycap set. Thanks for watching!

[@kidzak98]

i still dont understand what dif about this keyboard, you can just replace the switches on any custom keyboard to fit preference.