Worcester Ri ignition repair. Another Worcester Ri Fix. Blue flashing light. full strip down.

[@buxvan]

I think you really enjoy your work & it's great to get job satisfaction too. I'm a self employed gas safe engineer & enjoy my work too (apart from the intermittent fault jobs, or customers telling you that everything was working until yesterday, when you know 100% it wasn't)

[@jamess5185]

do not edit these videos this was invaluable for fault finding for obviously gas safe engineers i have worked on these boilers so many times and to watch someone like yourself was brilliant mate keep them coming

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks a lot. I appreciate the support. :-)

[@HeatingGeek]

Having time is a great privilege I have on jobs. :-)

[@lazenbytim]

I agree. Awesome video... nasty little fault that one but I was thinking flame rec right from the get go. Someone, has yanked that cable pretty well. Nice job and great video.

[@baitrunner1000]

Absolute quality. Video was as long as it needed to be. All the info and the stages covered perfectly.

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it. :-)

[@ArksE8]

well done mate. I'm so happy you fixed it and it's not even my boiler.

[@oliviergilcreest8088]

I had nearly given up. I had a remaha today that was worse though.

[@kieranwims1976]

That gas valve comes out set up for a 28kw boiler. So it would never have worked for a 15ri. The min/max adjust paperwork comes with the new gas valve. The previous engineer never read the instructions. Well done for sussing it. Nice job.

[@HeatingGeek]

I guess your a Worcester guy. Modern gas valves can be a pain in the ass. Worcester gave me the set up but it still didn't work. Thats when all hope is lost and I just start fiddling until I get it lit.

[@cfgman9176]

Good video showing how to work systematically to resolve the issue. You covered all the salient points although I personally check all wiring before moving to the rest of the boiler. Nevertheless an informative video always interesting to see how other engineers approach the problem. Keep up the good work.

[@HeatingGeek]

I should have checked the wiring. Bit of a mistake on that. Boiler fixed in the end though and customer very happy.

[@tubejogger]

Great job. Methodical approach that could have avoided the initial throwing of parts at it. Keep the videos coming.

[@HeatingGeek]

I should of checked the basics first. I assumed this would of been done before my visit. Methodical is always the best approach.

[@shaun2049]

Wouldn’t touch a Worcester had 2 don’t know why everyone ravs on about them anyway well done mate at least you sorted it out

[@HeatingGeek]

Im a big fan of Vaillant myself. Worcester are ok but more difficult to work on.

[@justsendmelocation5068]

We repair and service Worcesters for social housing. These boilers are an absolute nightmare. They are easy to work on however they high maintence. Other boilers such as Vaillant and baxi ar far better.

[@tonyharmer8752]

Great video and you went through this process in a methodical manor. This is the way I carry out fault finding and find the courses at Worcester very good. They supply first class technical literature. I had the same problem on a 24i jnr on Friday and had the same result. Once again great video well done

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. It can be very time consuming to get things right. Methodical is the only way to do it. I appreciate the feed back;-)

[@BlueMax333]

Thanks for the heads up! It is amazing how some installers are poorly trained

[@HeatingGeek]

Yes they are! But most want more training and cant get it.

[@paullorentz1375]

Thanks for the video... well presented and very clear, been a while since I've done one, it was good to refresh as I've got the same problem but fan is not running in my case..

[@leaturk11]

nice to see a good engineer on the job.

[@HeatingGeek]

Who? I didn't see him! :-)

[@charliefox6987]

Awesome video mate , learning so much from your videos . Thanks

[@HeatingGeek]

Im glad you like them. Thanks for watching I appreciate the views. :-)

[@thomasgoodman3876]

hearing that boiler light that is my drug, love it. The hits better when someone else has fail to fix it.

[@buildingsolutionsltd9247]

Did a full strip down on a 18RI today intermittent lock out... (ignition/ over heat fault codes) Fan pressure is so important on these units my advice is it’s near -7.4 And there’s sighns of heat marks etc Strip it! New electrodes and red gasket Boilers sweet... (for now!) 😌

[@HeatingGeek]

Its an easy boiler health check. Fan pressure good then the boiler should be ok. And the issue should lie with electrics/set up. The only issue is if the boiler wont fire. then you cant do a test!!

[@BriaCroTex]

Just have two quastions i am confused a little bit, first thing first u can't adjust fan pressure, and second thing i honestly don't understand thos numbers 3.5,2.5 i know how adjust co2 on valve but what are those numbers u told us to stop working on boilers. I am not from UK so maybe there is different word for that

[@elwittinio2865]

Worcester boilers are my nemesis, such a pig to work on, hate them with a passion. Baxi, ideal, or viessmann all the way.

[@HeatingGeek]

Worcester aren't too bad. :-)

[@peterryan7827]

My baxi solo keeps tripping out its a solo 18,there is an engineer coming sometime booked ,but just thought ide ask,

[@HeatingGeek]

@@peterryan7827 It could be anything. Im sure the engineer will work it out. :-)

[@dazdavison1]

Worcesters are straight forward apart from prv swap, but even thats do able.

[@charliewillis8527]

You have to remember to set the gas valve up when you fit a new one it comes with the settings for each boiler .I have fitted loads over the years and can't say i have had any major problems with the ones i service every year

[@HeatingGeek]

I haven't had too many issues. Except following other engineers.

[@charliewillis8527]

@@HeatingGeek yes i have had it on the cdi as well when i put the valve on it didn't light a little adjustment and away it went lol.I have had a tool made up to get the leads off the Worcester I Ri and Si boilers i have tested it and it works well to make them and make a little i would sell them at £6 each would it be of any intreast to you and your subscribers i haven't done it to make me rich but to help other engineers out therRegards Lee

[@abusaeed7430]

@@HeatingGeek Hi where are you based which areas do you cover?

[@HeatingGeek]

This was a difficult job due being last through the door. Should I have edited this to be shorter? Let me know how I can improve these videos.

[@woodbine66]

No need to edit. Plenty of videos out there are far too short. I like to see all the steps taken. Great one HG. Waiting for the next vid :-)

[@Razz60]

If u ever did a fault finding course i will be the 1st to enrol as you are by far the best ive seen in explaining an showing how it should be done i am a gas safe engineer an do mostly installs but i would luv to learn about fault finding an ur videos have been 1st class please if you ever consider running a course let us know thanks mate keep it up

[@BarriosGroupie]

Spot on, it's like watching a drama with a happy ending.

[@HeatingGeek]

@@Razz60 only just saw this comment. thanks :-)

[@HeatingGeek]

@NPC Zombie Thanks

[@mmack3286]

Great video for gas safe engineers who are starting out!

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks! Thats why I do them.

[@judithbrown6016]

Once again I learn so much from one of your videos. Thank you so much from a fellow engineer. I have found another problem with this boiler thanks to you. Thanks

[@HeatingGeek]

Nice one thanks :-)

[@dzmalekvali1110]

You are a king at it thanks

[@HeatingGeek]

Everyone can do this. :-)

[@xclusive463]

LOVED THE VIDEO and it would be really great if you share the tools that you use and that come handy for heating engineers especially that red tool attached to the gas valve

[@HeatingGeek]

Ok I will do something on that ASAP. Its really busy at the moment. :-)

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

it's a T-handle allen key. 2.5 and 4 mm i think

[@srhius]

Five engineer call outs. Call out charge unless under warranty. Cost of replacement parts if not under warranty. Labour if not under warranty. But always the fear statement of 'don't work on these if you don't know what you're doing' - which basically means you are playing the lottery in order to get the right engineer. Eventually the part support will run out for my Potterton Kingfisher and find these videos the most informative. Keep up the hard work and diligent troubleshooting efforts.

[@HeatingGeek]

Insurance!!! So customer is paying monthly. Kingfishers are a good boiler. Im not a fan of the mf cfl version as people don't realise that they need ventilation and access to the draft diverter. but im sure it will last along time.

[@srhius]

HeatingGeek I've got the MF 40 and the ventilation had been an issue. We made sure the cabinet has areas for air flow. I don't know jack about the diverter. However replaced the reducing tee from the head tank in the loft, chemically cleaned and then treated with inhibitor. Then this autumn changed out the pilot orifice and ignitor. After installing a Honeywell DT90E thermostat am able to have strong control over the house temperature. If you ever need a cameraman and are in the West Midlands, let me know.

[@HeatingGeek]

@@srhius Where the flue comes off the top of the boiler there is a down draft sensor thats needs removing to test the flue pull and to do a FGA. There is never any access to this point. I always need a camera man!!! :-)

[@ArifPolicewala]

That was awesome. Puts a lot of so called engineers to shame

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks man. I do love fixing boilers. Most of the timer.

[@Moocow9991703]

Well played Sir not many gas engineers would have been able to fix that.

[@HeatingGeek]

It took a little longer than I expected but it was ok. :-)

[@henrybartlett1986]

Another good one. Very useful as usual.

[@allum007]

Not bad for 40mins ....you've actually done everything that needed doing which ever order u did it .....I would of been swearing lol. Filming myself would of been a failure...good job 👍

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. The most difficult jobs I do are when I follow other engineers. Just take my time and usually get it sorted.

[@williammcgrattan9583]

Great video, kept it simple. KISS. 👌

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks!

[@bobby76353]

I feel your pain.. great video, and shows how dogged and persistant you have to be, not an easy fix by any means, fiddling with the gas valve set up is a pia, many would have walked, and many had from what you said 😀🤣

[@HeatingGeek]

I do enjoy a challenge. :-) I enjoy the job more when others have been defeated by it. Some weird psych there. :-)

[@paulkelly3254]

I’ve been to one where my lifter bent because the baffles had never been removed in 8 years, couldn’t budge it! Fan pressure test -1.2 mbar! Simple test, tells a lot. People call all kinds of manufacturers, but if you use the same method on them and they are serviced properly( NOT FGA’D ONCE A YEAR) then most appliances work well I find.

[@HeatingGeek]

Unfortunately the industry is in a ''Race to the bottom" with regards to servicing. British Gas are even making manufactures rewrite there MI's so servicing is less time consuming. Ask Baxi or Glowworm reps. Fu#$%@ joke.

[@paulkelly3254]

HeatingGeek I know what you mean, I left BG because of the bullying tactics and time constraints they put on you to sell things. I like how thorough your videos are and they are very good, I lost count of the jobs where a “•service” had been done and the system had numerous faults, especially flue issues which were not recorded. Keep up the great work👍🏻

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. I like BG as a contractor and would always consider going back if i needed to. I wouldn't work for anyone ever again though. Contractor all the way.

[@moulesanctuary]

Your videos are brilliant .. can I spend the day in the van with you

[@abdulh63]

great video! can someone explain why you have to play around with gas valve to get it to light? surley if there some gas, oxyen and ignition it should just light ?....

[@HeatingGeek]

Good question! You have to mess about with it because the gas to air isn't correct. Just like a car.

[@abdulh63]

@@HeatingGeek i see, much appreciated thank you

[@dockerslower]

Great video, very thorough

[@HeatingGeek]

Glad you like it. :-)

[@gregorydavison3421]

well done, but, does ALL the new parts fitted by previous RGIs were unnecessary? Hmmm

[@HeatingGeek]

Yep. Customer wasn't paying though. Insurance company was. :-)

[@gregorydavison3421]

@@HeatingGeek guess they need a word in their ear about fault finding procedures! And a visit to specsavers...

[@HeatingGeek]

@@gregorydavison3421 Yes. ;-) They did get a little chat. :-)

[@gregorydavison3421]

@@HeatingGeek who audits the job? Someone will not get many calls/jobs after this one l guess...

[@HeatingGeek]

@@gregorydavison3421 I do. Did ;-/

[@paulgardner3926]

How do you factory set the gas valve?

[@HeatingGeek]

Worcester can tell you over the phone.

[@chrisbw591]

Nice video, I know it’s 4 years old, but it’s rare I get to sit and watch one. Out of interest, would that earth lead have been picked up on basic dead tests/efli?

[@HeatingGeek]

No it wouldn't. The boiler itself was earthed and it would have passed any checks for that. The earth wire from the chassis to the back of the PCB cover may have shown up then doing an earth continuity check.

[@Bardenracing]

Good video thanks for sharing.

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks :-)

[@mgbroadsterJ]

Good job ...I get so stressed when I'm scratching my head .

[@HeatingGeek]

You and me both!

[@johnnysingh418]

Excellent video's , would love to train with you.

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks! I appreciate it a lot. If i can ever help let me know!!!

[@sajidlunat]

Thank you for sharing

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks for watching! :-)

[@knapman1990]

And a new gas valve which I reset to the 28i junior but still needing lots of adjustment to actually fire, have also checked the integrity of the flue, condense pipe and trap ok, and the baffles and burner are all clear and back in position correctly.

[@HeatingGeek]

Welcome to Worcester gas valve replacement!!

[@stuartsinclair6269]

Amazing stuff. Patients needed. Nice one bruv👍

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. Time is the biggest tool for learning. Patients comes with age I think. Thanks :-)

[@saifsami7921]

Hi when you washed the heat exchanger you did not show how the dirt water goes out from which point

[@HeatingGeek]

Are you a heating Engineer?

[@saifsami7921]

HeatingGeek no put i like this kind of jobs in

[@MMKLYH]

I’m a 2nd year apprentice and I already think I know what you adjusted but just want to make sure was it the maximum and minimum burner pressure on the gas valve

[@HeatingGeek]

Adjusting the high and low CO2% (on the gas valve)Using an analyser.

[@MMKLYH]

HeatingGeek top man, cheers lad

[@woodbine66]

Great video, but why do people bother with these shonky Wooshitter plastic shitboxes?

[@HeatingGeek]

I think they are quite reliable just a huge pain in the ass to work on. They keep me in work and customers like the BOSCH brand name.

[@GarrettDevitt]

Ring your parts supplier and ask how many Bosch parts they carry. It'll be none, because they give so little trouble.

[@elwittinio2865]

@@GarrettDevitt But they are a pig to work on, unless you have small hands. Good until they go wrong I will agree.

[@anthonynewcome128]

fitted dozens of these and even one at my house, currently 12 years old and as per the instructions if readings are good no need to open it up.... only ever wiped it down, cleaned the trap and hoovered out the inner case, never failed.. but there will always be one that slips past qc in the factory.....

[@GarrettDevitt]

@@anthonynewcome128 You need to pull the baffles every five years or they seize in place, which kills the heat exchanger. Never mind what the fan pressure says.

[@lazenbytim]

So am I missing something here, you had a faulty rectification lead which was the main cause of boiler not igniting?

[@HeatingGeek]

Yep. A simple fix but I assumed others would of found it first...

[@craiglewis6709]

Great video 👍

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. :-) I don't even remember which one this is :-)

[@suheilhanna873]

Brilliant

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks

[@knapman1990]

Hi, was just wondering if you could help... I'm losing the will to live with a 28i junior green star, the boiler was locking out intermittently and to cut a long long story short its had: new PCB, new fan, new spark electrodes + gasket, new gas tube (was split) , new bearing plate, temp sensors, primary sensors and flue stat all checked and ok, ive literally re built the boiler... the heat cell cleaned and when fired the negative pressure reads -6.4. Standing pressure 21mbar and working 19.5mbar. I can get the boiler running in service mode and have the Co2's to within 0.2 on min and max of the 9.2 and 9.8. BUT... when the boiler cuts out being up to temp it will not light again going back to lock out. Have spoken to many Worcester technicians over the phone who have no idea what to do next. My apologies for the long one but I'm out of ideas?

[@HeatingGeek]

When it doesn't light what's going on? All still the same (inlet pressure etc) Check the negative fan on correct ignition and then on failed ignition. Could the trap be backing up or a plume kit with a sag causing bad fan pressure. Or get the regulator replaced on the meter??? (if the pressure goes low).

[@knapman1990]

No plume kit. Flue straight out of the gable end... boiler just goes to ignition failure. It lights for a split second as can feel heat at the bottom of the heat cell inspection hatch. Once the boiler has fired it seems to be fine until hits temp. Then it tries to light again but fails even through I had the emissions near perfect before hand. The standing stays until the boiler tries to light and the pressure drops. Then back to normal.

[@HeatingGeek]

@@knapman1990 I really don't know. Thats very weird. I don't even know what to suggest. Maybe someone else might have an idea. If its heat related could it be a bad electrical connection? Maybe to the sense electrode. Bad earthing? Really not sure.

[@leaturk11]

nicely done...and subscribed

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. :-)

[@simonmander4314]

Great vid thanks. How's your job situation going? If you have time could you please explain the 2.5/3.5 max and min figures you used for setting up the valve? Is it to give you a guide to reset the valve i.e how many turns? Many thanks...

[@HeatingGeek]

Job situation sucks at the moment. The 2.5/3.5 is how to reset the gas valve. You tighten the screws all the way in and then out to the correct setting. (usually the boiler will light with these settings) You can then set it up correctly once lit. All models are different though.

[@simonmander4314]

@@HeatingGeek a man of your skills and experience is a very rare thing. Hope things work out for you. Keep going pal. Logic training or other centres are often looking for trainers. Not sure if you're interested in that. I've always been self employed which has been tough but never enjoyed working for someone else much... So I guess 2.5 for example means 2.5 full revolutions back again, after fully tightening screw?

[@HeatingGeek]

@@simonmander4314 Yes 2.5 is full turns. Also you don't tighten the screws down TIGHT, just nip them up.

[@simonmander4314]

@@HeatingGeek thanks for the help. Your videos have been a big help.

[@HeatingGeek]

@@simonmander4314 Thanks. Remember the amount of turns changes across the models. :-)

[@Jody669]

Good vid mate. Glad it’s not just me who gets these random mad faults. Just wanted to ask what you think of your Kane analyser? I’ve had an Anton last 20 years and fancy a change. Thanks

[@HeatingGeek]

I like kane. I have had all of them. Testo, Anton and TPI. I would get a kane again without hesitation.

[@Jody669]

HeatingGeek nice one thank you

[@HeatingGeek]

@@Jody669 No problem :-)

[@BarriosGroupie]

How long did it take for you to train as a heating technician?

[@HeatingGeek]

Im still learning everyday. Sooo 19 years so far!

[@dazdavison1]

Everydays a school day just as you grasp a boilers quirks a new design comes in to play, what you need to grasp is the principles of how they work and the ignition sequence .

[@train4905]

Exellent

[@HeatingGeek]

Sorry I didn’t respond to this comment. I didn’t see it in my feed. :-(

[@Solderwire]

It's always easy when you know.

[@razzlera]

Mate your videos are excellent, better than plumber parts, what area do you work?

[@HeatingGeek]

I work in hertfordshire and London. You?

[@adamsala9291]

Simple fix I knew that anyway great video again..

[@HeatingGeek]

Thanks. :-)

[@flightsimer1]

Hi Great video can rate your test 510 as I’m on the market to get a new mano

[@HeatingGeek]

6 out of 10. The size is the only reason I use it. I would rather use a Regin water gauge all day long. If you need a small one then get it. It will annoy you when your tube falls off it. The magnets are not strong enough to hold it on a boiler...

[@HeatingGeek]

It is my third one now.

[@flightsimer1]

HeatingGeek okay thanks for the reply been looking at the Kane ones now thanks

[@HeatingGeek]

@@flightsimer1 No problem. :-)

[@HeatingGeek]

@@flightsimer1 Did you get one?

[@theetheeyog9878]

Industry need people like you pal. There are lots of clown out there beware

[@HeatingGeek]

I know. Its a lack of training for most people though. If they could/would learn the industry would be a lot better. Times are changing though.

[@Monikarandhawa972]

bruv why did you cut the earth. i didnt get that. it was a gas valve adjjustment from the first minute

[@HeatingGeek]

I didn't cut the earth. :-)

[@sandraallsopp1234]

I really don’t like the RI heat exchanger a pain to work on access is difficult...

[@HeatingGeek]

Yep. Also an absolute pain in the ass to get to fire after they have had a new gas valve!!!!!

[@peterhyatt6751]

I’m sorry mate watching this while screaming kids in the background :/ was this under gassing then?

[@HeatingGeek]

No. I cant remember what it was... Not under gassing though. I don't think.... :-)

[@traian23us]

Rectification, rectification, rectification lead continuity check? No, it was hidden behind the board couldn’t see it 🤣🤣🤣

[@HeatingGeek]

We're all human, :-) The other one is better but filmed worse.

[@MM2009]

Have respect for people who graduated university and don't call yourself an engineer.

[@HeatingGeek]

:-) Thanks for watching