Worcester Tunnel Junction 1976 (Re-Upload)

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Day Of Disaster

Day Of Disaster

Күн бұрын

On the 3rd of January 1976, a locomotive collided with a parcel train before the Rainbow Hill Tunnel.
Sources
Railways Archive
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Railway Codes. org .uk
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BR Database
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Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton railway map image: By Afterbrunel - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, commons.wikime...
Shrub Hill station image By Ben Brooksbank, CC BY-SA 2.0, commons.wikime...
Title Image Sources: itsallabouttheclag
• 1015 rainbow hill tunnel
Music:
Long Note One - Kevin MacLeod - (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 - creativecommons....

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@DayOfDisaster
@DayOfDisaster 11 ай бұрын
The video was re-uploaded after some edits were required.
@bertspeggly4428
@bertspeggly4428 11 ай бұрын
Pity the editing didn't include correction of the misspelling of "Lest We Forget".
@fircombehallrailwayoogauge1430
@fircombehallrailwayoogauge1430 11 ай бұрын
@@bertspeggly4428spelling is not the most important thing in this context.
@patrickyorke3028
@patrickyorke3028 11 ай бұрын
Great presentation. Thanks.
@itsallabouttheclag
@itsallabouttheclag 11 ай бұрын
Very informative and interesting…. Nice still image of the Tunnel mouth featuring the signals, looks identical to mine .
@robertbate5790
@robertbate5790 11 ай бұрын
A tragedy I remember quite well. There was speculation at the time that the driver had been blinded by sun light. I had just become platform staff at my local staion on the old Snow Hill to Leamington line. And I had read "Red for Danger". All it takes is a moments inattention. RIP 🙏🙏
@hamster-wh3ws
@hamster-wh3ws 11 ай бұрын
45mph sounds a bit fast when you can't be certain another train has cleared the block. Thanks for the video :)
@christopherhulse8385
@christopherhulse8385 10 ай бұрын
Certainly not proceeding with caution at that speed.
@sirrliv
@sirrliv 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see this episode back up again. I must admit, at the mention of time interval working at the time of this incident, my immediate reaction was shock and consternation. I understand the difficult circumstances at the time, with both block instruments and telephone lines downed by the storm. But at the same time having to resort to such an archaic and provably dangerous method of train operation seems bordering on insanity. Surely no signalman in his right mind would have suggested such a thing unless there was no other option. Likewise, I find it shocking that the crew of the Class 52 would consider 45mph to be a "cautious" speed. Then again, the same engine, presumably with the same crew, had already taken a goods train through the area earlier that day. So it's not impossible that complacency combined with a bit of fatigue may have led to a lapse of concentration and focus plus a bit of impatience to get the job done.
@chriswade7470
@chriswade7470 11 ай бұрын
Time interval working was still available as an option in 1990 when I did my Guards training.
@rogercook6360
@rogercook6360 11 ай бұрын
A most interesting and well produced account of this accident and video.
@LostsTVandRadio
@LostsTVandRadio 7 ай бұрын
Goodness - I don't remember this. Very well explained.
@David19553
@David19553 3 ай бұрын
Extremely informative. Live long and prosper.🖖😇 My condolences to those who perished.🙏
@Llamberg.Railway
@Llamberg.Railway 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video, but I notice 31241 is mentioned at the start but 31242 is referenced at the end. During my long career I had worked on 31241
@DayOfDisaster
@DayOfDisaster 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the loco pictured at the end is 31241.
@fhwolthuis
@fhwolthuis 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video, thank you!
@AndrewBush-d2j
@AndrewBush-d2j 11 ай бұрын
My late father worked on the railways he told me a few stories regarding train disasters he was a signal man
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 11 ай бұрын
So was my father although he didn't ever talk about accidents coming from being a box boy at North Kent East signalbox the night the train came down at St Johns and he was one of the first staff to arrive at the scene, changed him forever causing him mental distress over many years. Worse was yet to come as he had been working on relief at Hither Green but was off duty when the Hasting's toppled over there, he was visiting the hospital with me a few weeks old with me mum and the police carted him off to some place and it brought all of St Johns back even though it was a platelayers cause two disasters on his watch was hard and he had a serious breakdown. He was put on "gardening" duty of relief work along the lines based at Hoo or Cuxton and spent half the time decommissioning the old Chatham line station boxes like Sole St, then he passed out for Orpington A and B working the line up and down from there relief and he seemed back on track. Left BR with most passes out on BR books and spent his retirement working for Swanage Railway known as "rule book Keith" or "fag and tea Keith" as he was never ever seen without a giant mug of copper brown tea or a rollie. He wrote the whole thing for connecting to Wareham as Network Rail were happy to work with him over that.
@David19553
@David19553 3 ай бұрын
Live long and prosper.🖖😇
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 11 ай бұрын
BTW, GUV is "general utility van", not "goods".
@BlackcloudRailways
@BlackcloudRailways 11 ай бұрын
It's lest we forget, not least.
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 11 ай бұрын
45 mph. Cautious???
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 11 ай бұрын
It all came down to the mother up of assumptions on the two drivers, the signalman and lax attitudes of guards esp that on the following train as a guard is supposed to keep a wary eye for work parties, warning boards and kids on the line near tunnels. I actually remember my signalman father issued with one of the pastel books that was an abridged version of the incident inquiry, my uncle a 33 driver at Hoo also received a copy of this and told by line managers both to read and re-read or else. So the powers that be were not going to let this one slide and no doubt sent rockets down the branches of staff on the lines aplenty. It also highlighted what can and will happen if you work outside an absolute block system, both drivers should have been given a ticket by the signalman allowing to precede, ticket should have been on the desk as a reminder but 1970's BR was such a different place then, safety was an elf that lived in a mythical far off land and bad practice crept in always.
@pbsteamatspeed7683
@pbsteamatspeed7683 11 ай бұрын
Probably the parcels van was filthy, and being dark blue would have blended into the hillside and tunnel ahead. Add to that the possibilty of low sunlight blinding the driver. If he thought the signal pulled off was for him he might have been accelerating. Its also downhill so speed on the western would have picked up very quickly.
@lauriemulrine1882
@lauriemulrine1882 11 ай бұрын
Locos are referred to as 31241 and 1055 "Western Advocate" but at the end there is a reference to 31242!
@be5952
@be5952 10 ай бұрын
OOOooops.... _'background'_ music turned up rather too loudly. Should be _actually_ background, rather than in theory only. Thanks
@PJay-wy5fx
@PJay-wy5fx 11 ай бұрын
In the past fee weeks, YT has been suggesting many great channels that are new to me. Yours I'm watching for the first time today. Unfortunately, many channels (about half I estimate) have the music volume so loud compared to the voice over that it becomes very difficult to follow. Esp when the notes are high pitched, like in this video. I'll make sure to check more of your content to see if that is more accessible to me. I thought it was worth mentioning as I feel bad I need to leave this video and move on not even two minutes into it. The auto generated cc is quite horrific and delayed, so that did not really help me out I'm sad to say. I'm not a content creator and maybe there is a reason why music levels are so high. If you can shed some light on that, I'd appreciate it as it's always nice to learn something new. For disabled people however, (this goes for a number of different disabilities), it makes the content inaccessible unfortunately.
@Guitar6ty
@Guitar6ty 10 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation ruined by back ground noise masquerading as music.
@smitajky
@smitajky 11 ай бұрын
Any form of communication failure is serious. Yet it is so much worse today with centralised train control. There is no signalman to talk to drivers and give them clear instructions. Just today there was an announcement of two companies charged with a collision where two people were killed. The signals had failed and the main line had a speed of 120km/hr. The loop had a speed of 20 km/hr. A passenger train was deviated into the loop but with no signals or other definite warning. In the old days the train would have been slowed and a pilotman would have been carried to authorise going past the failed signal. But safeworking is a cost and was not done any more.
@nedseagoon5101
@nedseagoon5101 11 ай бұрын
What rubbish! We’ve never had better communication with signallers and other control staff. We have GSMR radios fitted that have instant comms wherever we are. Pilot men have only ever been used to over see a major failure of signalling over a wide area or pre planned engineering works. Driver pass red signals at danger under authority every day of the week for various reasons.
@docdaneeka3424
@docdaneeka3424 11 ай бұрын
Sounds awfully like you're talking about the Wallan derailment in Australia? You can read the full report on the ATSB website, the circumstances are far more complex and subtle than you make them out to be. PS there was a pilot on the Wallan train, he was one of the two killed. Modern rail systems are miles ahead of 'the old days'.
@richardperry5538
@richardperry5538 11 ай бұрын
Proceed at caution....45mph isn't proceeding at caution, very sad losses.
@am74343
@am74343 11 ай бұрын
That moment when "Plan B" isn't followed!
@geoffreylee5199
@geoffreylee5199 11 ай бұрын
UK trains don’t have bright lights on their fronts, nor their rears. Why?
@mjt8199
@mjt8199 11 ай бұрын
They didn't at the time. Headlights didn't (and still don't) really do much other than make the loco/train more visible. It was probably felt that marker/headcode lights on locos/units at the time did that job sufficiently.
@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of
@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of 3 күн бұрын
WHAT PASSING SIGNAL AT DANGER 45MPH - 💩💩💩
@chicagogyrl4846
@chicagogyrl4846 10 ай бұрын
Holy Crap Can you talk a little faster??!!
@trevormoat6919
@trevormoat6919 11 ай бұрын
Great to learn from videos like this, I only have one problem, the "Lest we Forget" is at every Military Cemetery as is really meant that we do not forget those who died fighting or in defence of our Freedom not for anything else, I agree that we should not forget, however to put the two deceased men in the same category as, well lets say Railway men on the southern region in say, the Dover area in ww11 who died during bombing raids as they kept working is not honouring to those men, as the inquiry stated, the driver and guard drove without caution (paraphrased), they apparently were the cause of the crash, sorry but to use an Epitaph meant for the Heroic dead, lowers the standing of those who it is meant for.
@guelphjunction6633
@guelphjunction6633 10 ай бұрын
Actually “Lest we Forget” is a phrase from the poem Recessional, written by Rudyard Kipling. He quoted Deuteronomy 6:12 where it says lest we forget the Lord. Sadly it has been misapplied to dead warriors etc.
@willscottytv
@willscottytv 11 ай бұрын
What's with the ridiculous use of every single initial of someone's first names?
@troo_story
@troo_story 11 ай бұрын
So I had to stop and rewind after the first 10 seconds to work out what a Raawe was that was mentioned twice. 🙄
@HailAnts
@HailAnts 11 ай бұрын
As an American, I would comment that there's a lot of railroad jargon specific to Britain in this. Makes it more difficult to understand.
@SteveW139
@SteveW139 8 ай бұрын
You make a valid point; KZbin is international in scope. However, it is not unreasonable for a content creator to aim at a particular audience and target the content accordingly. There’s no difference between a British creator targeting a British audience and an American one using American English and expressions not understood by non-American speakers of English.
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