The Genius of St. Irenaeus

[@MountAthosandAquinas]

Saint Irenaeus was the first (non biblical) Saint that knocked on my door. Little did I know that letting him in would desolate my superficial understanding of Sacred Scripture. Needless to say, when I became a Catholic (over 3 years ago) I took this Saint to be my patron Saint. Irenaeus, pray for us.

[@IreneuszCzech]

Congrats. 👍🙏

[@davido3026]

SAINT IRENAEUS AND ALL THE REST OF SAINTS BELONG IN THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES, THE ONLY UNFINISHED BOOK IN THE BIBLE.... DO YOU KNOW WHY?....

[@marypower1261]

Don't know much about Irenaeus but i do intend to read as much as i can now. Not 100% sure about a God who is Love, created everything - including each one of us - and yet doesn't "need" us? Am i mixing up needs and wants? Is this not the heart of Thérèse of Lisieux's philosophy, her "little way"? And she is also a doctor of the Church. We are little, unimportant - and yet we matter to God! He has counted every hair on our head, He CARES about us! Why would He not be hurt/ bothered if we reject Him, deliberately disobey what we know to be right and not care that He loves us? He wants us to be happy - He needs us to be happy (for our own sakes) if we turn our back on Him - and it doesn't affect Him one way or the other - why, then, did Christ portray Himself as the Good Shepherd who seeks out the Lost Sheep? If our behaviour doesn't affect / upset/ influence God, how/ why should we ever have a relationship with Him?

[@MountAthosandAquinas]

@@marypower1261 Hi Mary, I am unsure if you are just thinking aloud or if you actually want some interaction on your questions. Here are my thoughts. The proposition we are prying into is as follows: “God doesn’t need us.” Saint Irenaeus isn’t in the boat alone on this proposition. In fact, it has been declared at Ecumenical Councils as well and by all the Fathers. When we pry into the idea of God “needing” us we run across some hiccups. Here are some things that necessarily follows if we hold a proposition opposite from what Irenaeus said. 1.) God needs creation thus making creation necessary and not via His free will. 2.) The effect, creation, is moving the cause, God, instead of the other way around. 3.) God plus creation would be a different God then God without creation. For if creation changes God (happy to sad etc) then God is changeable. This would mean He is moveable through Passions. But “Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.” “I am the Lord I change not.” “Before Abraham was I AM.” 4.) God gives Existence to all things but creatures give nothing to God. God spreads the table for His creation and not vice versa. “I own all the cattle’s on the hill, what can you give to Me oh Jacob”? “Heaven and the earth is mine.” If we say that God “needs us” we are implying that there is something given from mankind to God that necessitates His creating of us. 5.) Love of concupiscence vs Love of benevolence. Love of concupiscence is a love for what I can get. Love of benevolence is a love that wills the Good of the other AS OTHER. Not for “my good” but for “your” good. God already has His Good in as much as He has His rest (which is the inner Trinitarian communion). He invites others to RECEIVE His Rest and His Goodness (I swore in my wrath they shall not enter MY REST). He doesn’t RECEIVE anything from us but graciously gives to all. But instead He tells us “RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT.” God told Saint Augustine “Eat Me and you will change into Me and not I into you.” Now, just because God doesn’t “need” us doesn’t mean we are not important to Him. On the contrary, all of His creatures are reflections of and proceed from His Inner Trinitarian Love. It is from God that all things created came from. And it is to God that all things return. He desires that all things return to Him who is the source and summit of their goodness and that it return for its own goodness and not His. Not that they return by giving Him something He needs, but rather they return by Him giving them something they need. Grace, Faith, Hope, Charity. “Participation in the Divine Nature.” Not for His Good do we do anything. But rather, for our Good He gives to us. Augustine said it like this “you crown your own gifts you placed in us.” We are raised up because He wills our good, being, Himself. Now, our behavior has no effect on God anymore then a rock thrown up to the sky can hit the clouds. The only person effected by the ill behavior is the one who threw the rock and it falls back upon their own head. God is Good. All the time. All the time, God is Good. “I am the Lord and I change not.” So then what does change? Man, who are on a spinning earth that at one time is in the light and the next is in the darkness. The light never stops shining and being the light, but it is the man who’s ways spin like the earth turning their back on the unchanging light. In the ways above, I hope this shines a little “light” on the mystery. Though, it’s always hard to pry into the intelligibility of what is unseen.

[@ronoelrobinol4263]

@@MountAthosandAquinas This is what I like with converts to Catholicism, such deep thinkers. Thank you for this. May GOD be praised!

[@ronnestman4696]

I really appreciate Bishop Barron. He’s been a wonderful influence on me along my spiritual journey. God bless him and everyone at Word on Fire ministries.

[@JulesFaraday22]

"The Glory of God is the human being made fully alive" - St. Iraneus, Against the Heresies. This has the quote that I've lived by since the start of the pandemic. It has kept me spiritually vigilant and faithful throughout 2020. I wouldn't have understood him fully without you, Bishop. Thank you so much, Iraneus and Bishop Barron!

[@marypinakat8594]

God bless you heaps☆

[@Owbly]

Is against the heresies a great place to start reading iraneus?

[@Kitiwake]

That's so good!👍

[@JR-nr5rr]

@@Owbly Yep, but you can skip over book 1, which explains the heresies in very great detail!

[@Owbly]

@@JR-nr5rr Hey thanks for the info!

[@aisthpaoitht]

I finally discovered God and I am ravenously devouring all of this material. There is so much depth, so much to learn, so much to ponder, so much room to grow. God truly is infinite good. Nearly every night I want to cry with joy when I think about the unlimited depth of God. I am just scratching the surface. I feel like there will never be enough time in my life to satisfy my thirst for what God can offer...I guess that it is a good thing we have an afterlife :)

[@marypinakat8594]

*I pray God will bless Bishop Barron to be a NEW Irenaeus for our times in the Church☆*

[@ronnestman4696]

Well said Mary. I second your sentiments exactly.

[@marypinakat8594]

@@ronnestman4696 Thanks so much☆ Huge God Bless☆

[@loveandmercy9664]

Aren't Trads the new Gnostics? they talk as if they are remnants of the true church.

[@marypinakat8594]

@@loveandmercy9664 In all things we are putting our trust in Jesus our Master and Lord, aren't we? Let's keep doing it without giving in to fear of any kind. Thank you for your valuable presence☆ Stay blessed☆☆

[@philomenamorgan6760]

Amen to that 🎉

[@SuperIliad]

When I discovered for myself Irenaeus, I rediscovered the Church and my faith.

[@markm.5756]

Bishop Barron - THANK YOU for all your thought-provoking content. Your online presence kept me from despair throughout the pandemic from 2020 to the present- including the negative Catholic KZbin influencers who constantly put down Pope Francis, disparage your ministry, while chasing division/drama & cashing in.

[@marypinakat8594]

Stay blessed☆☆☆

[@gabemelgoza2709]

Hmmmm Taylor marsh

[@markm.5756]

@@gabemelgoza2709 Guessed right.

[@carolinenorman6141]

Exactly

[@carolinenorman6141]

The balanced catholic’s who really listen to Pope Francis are very gracious. They understand him in context.

[@diegoandres2906]

I'm discoverying this great Father of the Church, whose importance these days are tremendous! Mother Veronica Berzosa also speaks about him a lot! Thanks Bishop Barron!

[@michellebryan8148]

" It is not you that shapes God ,it is God that shapes you If you are the work of God ,await the hand of the Artist Who does all things in due season. Offer him your heart , soft and tractable and keep the form , in which the artist has fashioned you. Let your clay be moist,lest you grow hard and lose the imprint of his fingers." ( St. Irenaeus , Bishop of Lyon ) Love this Saint, whose " Against Heresies". Looking forward to this show , Bishop.

[@robertgallino2968]

That’s beautiful thank you

[@nufaa5313]

Beautiful, thank you

[@michellebryan8148]

@@robertgallino2968 I thought so too.You're welcome.

[@michellebryan8148]

@@nufaa5313 I thought the same.You're welcome.

[@kyallogideon8625]

The Spirit of God in Our Bishop...GOD BLESS YOU BISHOP BARRON

[@annettewiggins399]

I can't wait,thank God for people like u Bishop Baron,we Catholics and others ,if they so desire, can learn so much,oh how I love to learn about our faith. These sorts of things should be taught in religion classes in CATHOLIC schools.

[@Kessogsasaina]

I hope that this is a good sign of things to come between the east and west. I really hope the Orthodox and Catholics can come together the world need a united church now more than ever.

[@btyz11]

That would be great. As an Orthodox Christian myself we could learn so much more about our faith by coming together. There of course are many differences we would need to sort out of course.

[@armofgod3749]

"But there are certain doctores /teachers that are so insightful, penetrating, so rich that the whole church should sit up and listen.” Hmmmmmmm.... I wonder who else that can also apply to???? Anyone?? :-). We are certainly blessed to be witnessing a future doctor of the church! God Bless you, Bishop!

[@lornavaughan1684]

Thank you Bishop Barron and Brandon, I love watching you both on Word on fire. Very interesting. GOD bless you both. Stay safe ➕❤

[@tonyl3762]

Happy Feast of St Irenaeus!

[@lucaswagemann5995]

Bishop. I’m new to your channel let alone introduced to catholicism. The heritage of my family birthing Mormonism is huge and my parent who proclaims heresy is extremely difficult to move up as an individual. I just want to confirm I believe the Catholic Church is the true church. Not because of every building the church is, but because her people have been the church since the beginning and dawn of time. The heresy I fight and the fake conditions I am embedded to can only celebrate this saint as a doctor of the church. Thanks for the heroic efforts you provide and God bless. I also reject Mormonism as I have had a 17 year long battle of schisms.

[@dominicschmitz4933]

Hey i also just left LDS to become Catholic again bless you I all the angels help you

[@Zaradeptus]

God bless you

[@barbarabender2528]

God bless you.

[@marypinakat8594]

Thanks A Million for sharing the great beautiful experience and true story☆ God bless you heaps☆

[@davido3026]

read the church fathers, then you will see!!! Come and see...

[@marypinakat8594]

"The glory of God is the human person fully alive." - ST. IRENAEUS OF LYONS *St. Irenaeus, destroyer of heresy,* *Pray for us☆*

[@jeanmelanson448]

After 25 years of constant study, I still feel like a neophyte and Ireneus is still someone that I need to read! Like the bishop, I also thought that he was a doctor of the church. Thank you Bishop Barron

[@SowerOfMustardSeed]

You r not alone 😊

[@Coco2345ful]

Bishop Barraon is amazing! Way beyond my realm of expertise

[@marianweigh6411]

For those looking for an entry into Irenaeus, I can highly recommend _The Scandal of the Incarnation_ from Ignatius Press. Selected and introduced by Hans Urs von Balthasar, these texts (largely pulled from Against Heresies) make it clear why Irenaeus deserves the title Doctor of the Church, and why he's so relevant for us all to read today. Coming in at just over 100 pages, it is the perfect guide into his genius.

[@aisthpaoitht]

thank you

[@dcruzonasis]

Informative and I always love the way Bishop Barron explains.... God bless you. Regards, Fr. Onasis D'Cruz ( Goa, India)

[@rhwinner]

His complete writings are on the web. Also, St Ignatius, from the same time period. Also, Justin Martyr and Polycarp, who wrote on the way to the lions. Very enlightening to see how the very early Christians worshipped, and their beliefs.

[@petergrey4151]

Such an awesome episode on Iranaeus. So many delights and in particular the optimism of recapitulate.

[@dimithriperera9724]

"Hail Mary, full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, Amen" My beautiful sweet Jesus, my eternal love, please bless Bishop Robert Barron and keep him safe.

[@Cuinn837]

I am an ex-Mormon. There is a lot of Gnosticism in Mormonism, and they tend to turn to Gnostic works to justify their beliefs and to "prove" that their teachings existed in early Christianity.

[@makidiaz3894]

Fasting rituals to level up. Fasting is good no doubt but I met an ex Mormon who thought he had psychic powers from Mormon rituals he did.

[@tenor79]

I am an ex mormon, and i don't know what you to what you are referring. I've literally never heard a Mormon leader quote a Gnostic text. Can you clarify?

[@davido3026]

READ THE BOOK OF MORONI AND COMPARE IT WITH GALATIANS 1:8, FREEMASON JOSEPH SMITH CAME IN THE 1800S....

[@davido3026]

@@tenor79 THEIR DOCTRINE IS GNOSTICISM!!!! THEIR BAPTISM IS INVALID, COMPLETELY WRONG!!!

[@guygeorgesvoet4177]

Congratulations to you Brandonr with the new cow . You chose the best. May your homesteading flourish and all your animals around your family. Thank you for sharing this very telling detail. A real and very good suprise.

[@marypinakat8594]

Lovely comment☆ Stay blessed☆

[@Lerian_V]

Thank you and God bless you for this. You are God's gift to the Church.

[@teresalau9845]

thank you for the teaching, Bishop, and Brandon to host it. I learn more of Irenaeus, who is the patron saint of my son. God bless.

[@alyu1129]

For Catholics, Irenaeus is still as much a living part of the Church as we are and the guy sitting next to us in the pew.. One body. One Lord. The Body of Christ. As one with us as the Lord Himself.

[@mitchellmcgahan5094]

Thank you Bishop for your insight, Glory to God.

[@adrone123]

Thank you for an excellent addition to your word on fire ministry! I am currently reading an introductory book on the founding church fathers and the two that really speak to me so far are St Polycarp and St Irenaeus. What perfect timing for this video to be released!

[@SempreGumby]

Thanks for your explanation of Gnosticism Bishop. Much appreciated.

[@davido3026]

"G" FREEMASONRY IS GNOSTICISM AMONG US, THEY RULE THE WORLD!!!

[@ludonymous526]

​@@davido3026 Well. They're the epitome of bad, pretty much.

[@barbarabender2528]

As always, thank you Bishop Barron.

[@garyh2481]

Execellent espisode Brandon! It's been a long time since I tuned in, but I learned a lot of relevent info, even from the Question of the day.

[@44esta44]

From my experience THE COURSE IN MIRACLES, a present day New Age writing has a Gnostic tone. I have lost friends to the Course, folks who were local Catholic leaders. It saddens me greatly. Thank you for this discussion on Irenaeus.

[@LostArchivist]

What is the course and what is Gnostic about it?

[@LisaKnobel]

When I was dabbling in the New Age stuff all I kept thinking is that Jesus, the real Jesus, was like the being that they wanted to be, but that they didn't want to acknowledge. Oh, that great deception of being spiritual, but not religious. Today, I will say that the reality is more like Satanic, but not honest about it. Then I eased back to Christianity through an ELCA Lutheran church. Or at least I thought. . . But, except for the appearance, it's still the same lie. Then I read the Bible... I very quickly went back to the Catholic Church and the confessional.

[@ludonymous526]

@@44esta44 New Age stinks. It's a disservice to true spiritualism.

[@amaraheising4672]

Very informative and educational. Thank you both- God's blessings on both of you and your ministry.

[@blondineduvall3166]

Bishop Barron is truly a brilliant disciple of Jesus Christ!

[@lukholofishidi4139]

I'm currently reading his book "Demonstration of apostolic preaching". I must say, i love this guy

[@Zematus737]

@33:00 Without the one who is, I am not. 'I am your life, the Lord says, Those who walk with me abide in me.' My certainty is in the Almighty, whose light shines the path out of every uncertainty.

[@jorgecamposano594]

Please help buy the 3 new books of Bishop Barron. Im from the Philippines. I admire the good Bishop for his insights and ideas

[@M5MSMSMSMSMSMSMSMSMS]

🖤 from Galveston-Htown archdiocese 🙌🏿

[@seans.131]

19:07 "When God gives me a share in his life, now I can love in that disinterested way...through grace I can share in the divine life." -Bishop Barron [Cf. CCC 460] I recommend Irenaeus of Lyons: Identifying Christianity by John Behr. Interestingly, Behr shows that Irenaeus's famous quote, "The glory of God is a human being fully alive," is in fact in reference to the martyr. God bless you, Bishop Barron. (Congrats on your cow, Brandon.)

[@seans.131]

I completely agree with you. He is in the process of translating all of Irenaeus's works; he says it will take about 10 years. Love that man. God bless☦️

[@jean-guydallaire6527]

Very much enjoyed this interview... always learning more and more from the bishop's wisdom. And yes, as Saint John Paul II said... "we breathe from both side of the lungs", and also about the evolution of the Christian faith... they are insightful people that have visions... visions of cosmic importance that do and could do more to contribute, to the Glory of God. Thanks Brandon Vaught and Bishop Barron.

[@WhiteTeeMinistries]

Thank you Bishop. I'm in seminary and this was illuminating. Thank you.

[@absalon6888]

Beautiful, thank you very much.

[@alhoonxor]

God bless the Bishop.

[@diannefitzmaurice9813]

Wonderful discussion. So happy to hear about Iranaeus. In the modern world this does make a difference. Philosophically the age old dualism of body and spirit is resolved from an organic approach that recognizes the significance of the body without having to postulate ύλη or some underlying substrate or "matter". AN Whitehead takes this view, reminding us that it is a construct, useful for science but not "real"! Trees are real, things are real without requiring a substrate. His Organic process approach also resolves the difficulties mentioned about 2 gods with the consideration of a primordial and consequent nature of God -- consequent not so much after or because of the fall but after the incarnation. Good to go back to reading Iranaeus with some of these concepts and difficulties for resolving the age old philosophical problems.

[@Kwesi6486]

This was good. Love the recapitulation point!

[@loveandmercy9664]

Teilhard de Chardin and Richard Rohr's cosmic Christ is deeply rooted in st. Irenaeus recapitulation theory. "Did the Divinity need to wait for Ethnic Orthodox, Roman Catholics, European protestants, and American evangelicals to appear before the divine love affair could begin? I cannot imagine" Fr. Richard Rohr

[@eleanorbertuch135]

Always a riveting and inspirational message. Thank you 🙏🙏❤️

[@GordonSymons-BEYOND]

Great interviewing and really clear teaching. Thank you !

[@xxFairestxx]

In my time discerning converting to orthodoxy, I know I will always greatly enjoy this channel. Great video.

[@josephtravers777]

Very good content, Your Excellency! Love the history of the early fathers, esp. Irenaeus & Origen.

[@IreneTanedo-md9ux]

Thank you so much Bishop Barron for your very informative and interesting facts about St. Ireneus. He is my patron saint because I was born on June 28 also

[@gregjohnson514]

Thank to Bishop and Brandon

[@itazenin]

St. Irenaeus i entrust the care of my body to you. Improve the body that God has given me in all aspects. St. Irenaeus pray for me.

[@emaldagodomon2412]

The next Doctor of the Church will no doubt be Bishop Barron.

[@soniaaltuzar6191]

son buenísimos los dos, muchas gracias

[@margaritaflores874]

Thank you!

[@wayneg7812]

Good video - Thank you Bishop Robert.

[@thespiritofhegel3487]

'Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself'. - Philippians 3:21.

[@christianleblanc2842]

Accessibly informative.

[@thomasscheck6575]

Erasmus of Rotterdam published the first edition of St. Irenaeus's writings in 1526 at the beginning of the rise of the Protestant Reformation. He tried to point the Church to its sources.

[@davido3026]

UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS A HERETIC!!!!THERE WAS NO A REFORMATION; LUTHER STARTED A REVOLT, 70,000 SECTS IN THE WORLD TODAY!!!!!

[@davido3026]

your crass ignorance of Chyrch history, biased and blind fanaticism have made you a miserable being!!!! Saint Irenaeus is a Catholic Saint, the Church does have the writings from the very momennt he wrote those!!!!! how do you say it was done after 15 centuries???? who kept those manuscripts????idiot!!!the church does not swerve or change!!! 20 centuries and continues guided by the Holy Spirit!!!can you mention just a single Doctrinal error?????

[@cesquintv6157]

Nice message, thanks.

[@MsKarenDan]

This is truly great!

[@thetriunegodsofficalfanpag4442]

Love to hear and learn of my patron saint.

[@levismadore556]

Descartes’ « I think, therefore I Am » now knows a post-modernist twist: « I think, therefore I am what I think I am ». Those words are not mine, but my memory cannot bring up to my mind its true author. Levis Shalim

[@jimluebke3869]

"My friend doubts that anything exists, because we can't prove it exists. What can I do to dissuade him?" "Heave a brick at his head. If he ducks, he's a liar." - Edward Abbey Needless to say, Bishop Barron's answer is far more humane and measured. =)

[@PInk77W1]

I watch many anti TRINITY videos on KZbin. I hope the Bishop makes more videos on The TRINTY. God Bless

[@KoldTrain]

I think it was St Irenauas who wrote that Christ was the " Perfect Bread " of life.

[@davido3026]

JESUS PERFECT BREAD FOR THE BODY, MIND AND SOUL!!!!

[@dynamic9016]

Really appreciate this video.

[@bwoutchannel6356]

I look at this recapitulation as God (and I pray these words often) God , save us from ourselves.

[@rudyantofrans7679]

Thank you Bishop, for explaination about St. Iraneus.Maybe one day would you explain the mysticism and gnosticism in catholicism. Or maybe list the book that explain is a simple way. Thank you Bishop.

[@suzannespanier4492]

Pain is proof. You have to make yourself consciously present in your body. That’s the best way back in from contemplation.

[@robintropper660]

At the risk of being labeled a heretic myself .... I'm listening to a lot of Rudolf Steiner these days (REALLY not easy to follow: the linguistic traps from his German heritage compounded by the post world war ONE timeline are huge and easy to fall into) and I actually hear in Bishop Barron's speech, here, a good reconciliation with many of Steiner's complaints.

[@busterbeagle2167]

Please pray for my church. Our father has officially left the priesthood. 😭😭

[@ABB14-11]

Just did.

[@PInk77W1]

Where ? I’m in Coleman Tx

[@nasugbubatangas]

I have always loved Iraneus. I was asking for a very long time why he isn't a doctor yet. As far as I remember, he was the one who coined the term "Orthodox". I agree that if Iraneus was not able to combat Gnosticism, we would not have been the same. Among the Church Fathers, he is one of my favourite go-to.

[@pinoysarisari7374]

Orthodox is only an accessory name invented in the 4th century....Catholic has always been the Divine name of the Church that has supremacy and still retained even today.... ST. AUGUSTINE "The succession of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the Apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after His resurrection, gave it in charge to feed His sheep, down to the present episcopate. And so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house. Such then in number and importance are the precious ties belonging to the Christian name which keep a believer in the Catholic Church, as it is right they should, though from the slowness of our understanding, or the small attainment of our life, the truth may not yet fully disclose itself. But with you, where there is none of these things to attract or keep me, the promise of truth is the only thing that comes into play. Now if the truth is so clearly proved as to leave no possibility of doubt, it must be set before all the things that keep me in the Catholic Church; but if there is only a promise without any fulfillment, no one shall move me from the faith which binds my mind with ties so many and so strong to the Christian religion." -----ST. AUGUSTINE, CHAPTER 4, AGAINST THE EPISTLE OF MANI.

[@nasugbubatangas]

I am not sure what you are trying to arrive at with the comment. The word "orthodox" means the "correct teaching". It was meant to combat gnosticism. What it means is if you are a heretic, you are not an orthodox. Obviously, there was a need for the term in the 4th century. People are being martyred for following Jesus. So, if you are risking yourself to be killed, you might as well die for the orthox faith. And even now, I am sure you would rather be martyred than profess anything but the orthodox faith.

[@pinoysarisari7374]

@@nasugbubatangas the correct name of the church is CATHOLIC..... this is the SUPERIOR name of the Church.... ST. PACIAN " But under the Apostles, you will say, no one was called Catholic. Be it thus. It shall have been so. Allow even that. When after the Apostles heresies had burst forth, and were striving under various names to tear piecemeal and divide the Dove and the Queen of God, did not the Apostolic people require a name of their own, whereby to mark the unity of the people that were uncorrupted, lest the error of some should rend limb by limb the undefiled virgin of God? Was it not seemly that the chief head should be distinguished by its own peculiar appellation? Suppose, this very day, I entered a populous city. When I had found Marcionites, Apollinarians, Cataphrygians, Novatians, and others of the kind who call themselves Christians, by what name should I recognise the congregation of my own people, unless it were named Catholic?" ----ST. PACIAN OF BARCELONA, LETTER 1, 390 A.D.

[@nasugbubatangas]

@@pinoysarisari7374 Was there a claim in my post saying otherwise? The word "orthodox" refers to the teaching. And any Catholic should be claiming that they are following the orthodox faith. Because if the teaching you are following is not the orthodox faith, it only means one thing, it is not correct.

[@francesbernard2445]

Thank you for this book review! I wonder how the believers in Gnosticism would interpret the bible passage 1 Cor. 15:45 far more often in comparison to how someone like St. Irenaeus would interpret it. Would they for example understand the name Adam in both the old testament and the new testament in 1 Cor 15:45 to be closer in meaning or farther apart in meaning only while understanding the meaning of that passage which reminds how different Jesus Christ's relationship with his father has always been like compared to what the first Adam's relationship to his creator was like after his fall when then he alongside his wife Eve too both were in need of salvation as we are reminded as being a fact in 1 Cor 15:45? I don't understand how anyone calling themselves Christian could believe that the Lord in the old testament was any less than during new testament in our living bible.

[@ritabiro5105]

DEAR BISHOP l am sorry l am getting tired a little for surching for more and more saints.I would bee happy wih angels guiding mee into heaven in earth and to bee able to find spiritual life what jezus love .

[@robertmcginness4610]

The fact that Jesus spoke about that He must return to the Father in order for the Comforter to come to you demonstrates in a subsequent back door way that the Holy Ghost proceeds also from the Son. And all correct Christians ✝️ know that all sin and that nothing unclean enters heaven that along with Maccabees and the new testament points definitively towards Purgatory 🙄 Thank you very much

[@Resmungo]

Is Newman being adequately translated and read in other languages? I hope his impact isn't limited by writing in English because I agree he is Doctor material.

[@jonathanbohl]

Thanks

[@dancarmen9994]

What would it take for Catholic\Orthodox reunification to be achieved ? Is it a reasonable hope ?

[@TruthSeeker-333]

When the church returns to tradition, and abandons it’s worldly desires and it’s modernist nouvelle theologie infiltration. There is hope I pray.

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

@Dan Carmen The sticking point is still the 'filioque' clause in the Niceno-Constatinopolitan version of the creed. Orthodox theologians have no apparatus for 'the development of doctrine', claiming 'Rome changed the historic faith' with the addition of the 'filioque' clause [that is, that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father "and the Son" (filioque)]. The Catholic Church has issued a statement that the Catholic and the Orthodox understandings are more similar than dissimilar and have showed an openness that the Catholic Church's position is virtually same as the Orthodox statement that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father "THROUGH the Son". But full ecumenical relations regarding these developments has yet to be achieved. "J B"'s comment below that it has something to do with 'nouvelle theologie' is completely unfounded'. THAT issue is a purely CATHOLIC internecine squabble between two camps within Catholicism: traditional Thomists (historically represented by Father Reginald Garrigou-LaGrange) and the 'nouvelle theologie' theologians (Yves Congar, Marie Dominique Chenu, Henri de Lubac, Maurice Blondel, etc). That has NOTHING to do with Catholic and Eastern Orthodox ecumenical relations, which mostly center around the 'filioque' clause in the Nicene creed and the role of the papacy in the Church.

[@dancarmen9994]

@@QuisutDeusmpc thanks for the nuanced reply :) Personally, even though I am a member of the Catholic Church, I prefer to say I am “Christian” rather than “Catholic” when speaking with non-Christians. It seems to me that emphasising the difference between the two is less important than our common identity as Christians in these moments. I don’t want to undermine the differences, they matter, but surely in these times what makes us one must be prioritised. I may be wrong , but I don’t think I’m “ a Catholic” Rather I am “ a Christian”…who belongs to the one, holy, apostolic Catholic Church.

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

@@dancarmen9994 I see your point. The western, secular world has become bizarrely unmoored from anything that resembles its Judeo-Christian origins. As far as I am concerned observant Hebrews, faithful Catholics, eastern Orthodox and believing Protestants should be joining together and celebrating what they hold in common, rather than fighting over what still separates them. I do the same thing When I am talking to Protestants, particularly rabid fundamentalists or fervent evangelicals, I call myself a "Christian" in order to avoid a conversation which would usually devolve into defending the fact that Catholics don't "worship" Mary, Sacred Tradition doesn't contradict Sacred Scripture, Apostolic succession and the papacy are biblical, etc. Out of curiosity, do you attend a Latin rite or eastern rite Catholic Church?

[@roytofilovski9530]

How can the two be unified when we Orthodox are not unified ourselves. The Eastern Orthodox are not in communion with the Oriental Orthodox and Moscow no longer recognizes Constantinople.

[@Max.Wiggins]

Love the Bishop Robert. Respectful in debate, though: one man's heresy is another man's orthodoxy, and vice-versa.

[@charlesmcdermott6139]

Fascinating!

[@dm20422]

🙏✝

[@jeremymaxwell4949]

It's ironic that Bishop Barron does not realize that he is the new Irenaeus.

[@marypinakat8594]

Yes he is. Thank you☆

[@davidagbi4550]

He is just being humble.

[@davido3026]

@@davidagbi4550 THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!

[@LarryXLR]

The Gnostics: What are you gonna do? Write a book to shame us? Irenaus: Oh, I got more than one book for ya

[@carloshacer4440]

"We're fighting back." St Gnostic of Christ Church

[@dezmondaigilo]

Matter matters.

[@rajith.d.fernando]

A Question: is Bhuddhism to be seen as a Gnostic religion in Christian eyes?

[@ludonymous526]

Nope. To the contrary. Gnosticism is an incomplete and heavily flawed version of Buddhism.

[@chukonwea5956]

I was taught by (St.) Polycarp who was taught by (St.) John the Evangelist (a.k.a. John the Apostle, who in turn was created and taught by His Imperial Universal Majesty, Jah Jesus Christus! ......the rich tradition of apostolic succession). - St. Irenaeus.

[@larrywarner1630]

The Latin Church and many Protestant Churches have embraced Pelagianism. However, until the Jansenist, Rome affirmed the idea adopted by Calvinists, of irresistible grace and unconditional election. So, if Rome is infallible how does one explain this shift in doctrine?

[@krishyyfan5153]

excuse me , but Pelagianism is rejected by West....Rome follows the Council of Orange 529 A.D. , which settles the matter on PElegianism and Semi- Pelegianism and Rome REJECTS the Extreme Augustinian position of Calvin.... Rome affirms SEMI- Augustinian position, where Grace of God INITIATES , while Human Free- Will simply responds to the Initiation of God's grace....

[@shangkhillamkang7988]

You may not know how many souls you ve blessed

[@mariog1490]

I like the way Maximus talks of God as a non-competitive being. That God is BOTH imminent and transcendent. That’s what I think Aquinas meant by saying being is totally analogical.

[@jerrycapodilupo9195]

❤ Gnostic is the True Authentic Jesus Christ

[@racheleaggleston6410]

Beautiful Doctor of Church. God is outside of time and Jesus entered time. If If we never si ned not sure why Jesus would enter as a suffering Savior.

[@STRENGTHFROMABOVE]

To you reading this, you are one prayer away from an amazing turnaround of all your problems, the storms in your life is only temporary but the blessings and power of God is everlasting. Amen

[@janetgrupe9870]

I claim it.

[@johnhaggerty4396]

Irenaeus as doctor of the church is needed today. The reformed theologian Dr Peter Jones also warns us about gnosticism. *Peter Jones: A Gnostic Gospel* + *Unscrambling the new world view: Dr Peter Jones*.

[@EllsworthBucey]

How does God sustain himself?

[@theresameuse8583]

Another interesting episode, thank you Bishop Barron, and Brandon! Questioner: Nothing in current science proves there is no God (and there continues to be lots of evidence), so why not?