WORK TUFF GEAR WOLVERINE - SK-85 - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS

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JOE X

JOE X

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@auroraborealisknives4019
@auroraborealisknives4019 3 ай бұрын
Now we need to make a version of the Wolverine in K329 😁 Thanks for the testing 👍
@buckshotthighbrass
@buckshotthighbrass 3 ай бұрын
Sure would like to see it , really like it 2mm thicker spine and lower flats might make it a shtf knife
@markod8383
@markod8383 3 ай бұрын
is that steel better than sk85?
@auroraborealisknives4019
@auroraborealisknives4019 3 ай бұрын
@@markod8383 It has higher toughness and wdge retention 👍
@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc
@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc 3 ай бұрын
I want to see that test
@charlesdavis3923
@charlesdavis3923 3 ай бұрын
That would be awesome. I'd love to have one in k329
@BreathofSan
@BreathofSan 3 ай бұрын
What is useful is that with this type of videos, you can not only get an idea of the knives' resilience, but you can also see what there's beneath the handle scales (skeletonized or not). Two pieces of information that are rarely provided by manufacturers or retailers. How I hate skeletonized handles... 👍
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
glad u like my sheat!!!! cheers!
@QuantumMechanic_88
@QuantumMechanic_88 3 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@awatchmanoftrueisrael
@awatchmanoftrueisrael 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. No one test their blades enough to know that kind of inside information
@ShoahBiz
@ShoahBiz 3 ай бұрын
why do you hate skeletonized handles? as long as its done well it doesnt affect the strength of the knife enough to matter and it makes the blade balance better and lighter.
@BreathofSan
@BreathofSan 3 ай бұрын
@@ShoahBiz I hate skeletonized handles or those drilled to make epoxy adhere better because many of them end up breaking. Not only can you find numerous images on Google and BladeForums (like with the Ka-Bar BK series), but you'll also notice that many knives or machetes tested by JoeX break at the stress point created by the screw hole in front of the handle. I don't like skeletonized handles; to me, it's a crappy woke technique, and I don't care about the weight as long as it's solid.
@Jeremy-Two
@Jeremy-Two 3 ай бұрын
Joe X, You are the coolest knife reviewer known to man.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks ! Marlboro!!!!
@gizmocarr3093
@gizmocarr3093 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy seeing what happens to high end knives during testing! 👍
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman 3 ай бұрын
You also have no clue, what a knife is supposed to do.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
a knife is made to crack rocks and bone bro!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
and Fanbois!
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 3 ай бұрын
I have a couple Aurora Borealis designs, I love the handle and the balance. I just keep them away from Ferraris and bricks lol MARLBORO ✌🏼
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
good idea!
@conger34
@conger34 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for for this Test of both steels .Now i am Sure what to Go for. And all that without any payment 👍🏻 Thanx a lot Brother (After your Test i love my Tracker Even More 😉)
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@alienschmaliens
@alienschmaliens 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks for the hardwork. 💪💪
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@8626John
@8626John 3 ай бұрын
I really thought the SK85 version would do better. Still, as you said, they are good knives and very few can hold up under the Joe X experience. Marlboro!
@Мастер-ш3д
@Мастер-ш3д 3 ай бұрын
Слегка перекален клинок,в идеале такие клинки надо закаливать зонной закалкой,твердое лезвие и мягкий обух
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
it did better thand AUS6
@charlesdavis3923
@charlesdavis3923 3 ай бұрын
​@@Мастер-ш3д tops supposedly does differential heat treat with their knives and they usually break as fast as any knife he tests
@Jeremy-Two
@Jeremy-Two 3 ай бұрын
Joe X is all science. Cool.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
hell yeah my friend!
@blockbuster6076
@blockbuster6076 3 ай бұрын
Joe's jokes the coolest Fantastic!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
fantastic amigo!
@antchung2370
@antchung2370 3 ай бұрын
Hail the King... Long live King X ☝️😎👍👑
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u a first my boy!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u a first my boy!
@antchung2370
@antchung2370 3 ай бұрын
​@@joexMy lord' i have spotted a piece of steel out there in the mortal world, they call it the 'Eafengrow EF131 in DC53'.. Maybe this one has some worth to it.. Hail the King 👑
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
it has a nice name!
@TheGunsNBlades
@TheGunsNBlades 3 ай бұрын
@@antchung2370 Hail to the muthafooking King! Eafengrow 146 Joe. That is the only Eafensuckysucky that stands a chance
@GaborL
@GaborL 3 ай бұрын
Thorough test, thanks for the tip and have a break after the detailed analysis :D Have a nice Sunday evening!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
glad u like it! u too!
@bolt.22
@bolt.22 3 ай бұрын
Great pair of tests!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@richardvignola8000
@richardvignola8000 3 ай бұрын
Great video. You are a blade expert. Thanks.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
glad u like it!
@JacobBrantley90
@JacobBrantley90 3 ай бұрын
Alriiiiight my friends!!!👍👍👍 JoeX you’re the man
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!
@marclucier2533
@marclucier2533 3 ай бұрын
Ghosts sit around the campfire and tell Joe X stories
@GermanBluntSmoker
@GermanBluntSmoker 3 ай бұрын
😂
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 3 ай бұрын
LOL 👍 and when Joe⚔️'s car runs out of gas, he stares down the red light, and da car rrruns on fear ⚡
@Tohfool
@Tohfool 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review Joe. I had high hopes for the wolverine and Kodiak but I don't think I would get them. Hope Work Tuff would do something to improve these blades that are worth the asking price.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah true! kind of expensive for what u get!
@juanmanuelvicencioarriagad4860
@juanmanuelvicencioarriagad4860 3 ай бұрын
Hola Joe X, gran video para variar 😅. Es interesante ver que estos cuchillos especializados y de alta gama en realidad son "destructibles" 😅. Podrías testear cuchillos económicos de trabajo?? Por ejemplo un cuchillo Bahco 2449?? Saludos y éxito Joe X.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
gracias amigo, eso cuchillo es muy bien para trabajar en la selva!
@centralfinitecurve-ling...
@centralfinitecurve-ling... 3 ай бұрын
The man is in the MF building!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah!!!
@torsten4757
@torsten4757 3 ай бұрын
Danke für´s testen und zeigen! Schweißtreibende Aufgabe! Gruß Torsten
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
gerne! ist besser als sex! haha!
@torsten4757
@torsten4757 3 ай бұрын
@@joex sex ist eh überbewertet 😅👍🏼
@4850937
@4850937 3 ай бұрын
The pommel does not poke like Esee 6. It can be pushed on like a rondel. That seems to be a common feature in historic knives.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the intel!
@JoeyKnifeInnovations
@JoeyKnifeInnovations 3 ай бұрын
I watched youre show and the struggle of that Wolverine launched me a Cluster headache 😅 I have the worst type of headache in the world. They call it the suicide headache. I still like the design of the blade and yes the handle looks very ergonomical.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i still like the blade! i just feel it! no problem for me that it broke!
@JoeyKnifeInnovations
@JoeyKnifeInnovations 3 ай бұрын
@@joex Yeah its golden ❤️
@BreathofSan
@BreathofSan 3 ай бұрын
I'm gonna buy this knife just for the tough g10 handle.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thats what i was thinking bro!
@nicksenkovs1525
@nicksenkovs1525 3 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work buddy!!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
will do! Marlboro!!!!
@QuantumMechanic_88
@QuantumMechanic_88 3 ай бұрын
Pastor JOEX preaches on Sunday . Relax and have a Rum & Coke.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!! amigo!
@Jeremy-Two
@Jeremy-Two 3 ай бұрын
No Rum! Say no to bad drugs.
@kkownzor
@kkownzor 3 ай бұрын
Wtg are the new tops
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i really hope not!
@noname-hl4vs
@noname-hl4vs 3 ай бұрын
Nice work Joe X. Marlboro!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@xavieroudin2791
@xavieroudin2791 3 ай бұрын
now, i do understand "Karen"... very cool and nice blade. handle is awsome !!! well done Herr JoeX !!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks a lot!
@sourdiesel9193
@sourdiesel9193 3 ай бұрын
another bites the dust
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
exactly!
@SteinzVsKnives
@SteinzVsKnives 3 ай бұрын
give it hell Joe my brotha
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah!
@Nick-lm5lz
@Nick-lm5lz 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful designs .... sadly I can't get them
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok!
@Nick-lm5lz
@Nick-lm5lz 3 ай бұрын
@@joex is better than civivi tho?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
nope!
@EtotheFnD
@EtotheFnD 3 ай бұрын
My guy JoeX is ready to fuck shit up...👊
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
exactly!
@Gedankengeist
@Gedankengeist 3 ай бұрын
Good job, always a 👍for the master of metall-destruction! ❤ Greetings to all, Gedankengeist, dem der Gedanke kreist! 👻
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks my friend!
@ralfyellowknifedietl6159
@ralfyellowknifedietl6159 3 ай бұрын
Wooow, MARLBORO ❤
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@ralfyellowknifedietl6159
@ralfyellowknifedietl6159 3 ай бұрын
@@joex wer andere Menschen beklaut braucht auch ne Watschn 😉
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
but off camera!!!!!!!
@williamjordhamo1593
@williamjordhamo1593 3 ай бұрын
Misquotes don't bite Joe x outta resoect
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
amen father!
@Em54699
@Em54699 3 ай бұрын
Mr. X you have to try Lionsteel knives. Im thinking something like the T6or M5
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i did 2 already!
@Em54699
@Em54699 3 ай бұрын
@@joex Great tests!! saludos desde mexico!
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman 3 ай бұрын
You can't really blame it on WTG on what you paid for it. That's on the dealer you purchased it from. I paid $159 USD for mine and it's been worth every penny.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
for sure! but i can only can say what i pay!!! Col Steels are mostly half the price or less in the US! but unfortunately i live in Europe (for now)
@zoltanvonsomogyi7272
@zoltanvonsomogyi7272 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, Joe! Maybe you could record a big knife walking the iron rod and sell it at the Ap Store as a ring tone. I would buy it!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok cool! thanks!
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 3 ай бұрын
15:53 For a carbon steel that's disappointing. Is WTG dropping quality control?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
maybe! i did one other! the BEAR CLAW
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 3 ай бұрын
Mwah .. I know they can't all be chunky like Ares.. but .. I expected a little too much I guess. Excellent testing, very entertaining vid again my friend 👍
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks a lot!
@scdub
@scdub 3 ай бұрын
Joe!! On your new knife design - please make sure you have a good finger guard for stabbing (like on this Wolverine or better). Knives in your poll pictures seemed under-guarded… 🤘🤘 Also I hope you’re keeping all the old cars for the JoeX museum…
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i keep the cars for sure! i need time to test the JOEX blades!
@knifestory
@knifestory 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yes!
@ehsanbokkmad9739
@ehsanbokkmad9739 3 ай бұрын
Hi joe thanks for video!❤ so i wanna buy a voyager xl tanto and i find 2 version; the old one with aus_8 and tri ad lock, and new models with aus_10. Which one you recomend bro?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
aus 8 old one
@nathanwhite5602
@nathanwhite5602 3 ай бұрын
Cool video you know it seems to me that it is breaking at tips test and then just falls apart after that
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
maybe, it did ok, but it should take more" still a nice blade!
@sixxfreak58
@sixxfreak58 3 ай бұрын
We need to start a JOE X drinking game ... every time a blade snaps, we each drink a Red Bull shot and do a Van Damme split.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!
@scdub
@scdub 3 ай бұрын
The Busse ASH 2 has similar geometry to these Wolverines but is much longer (so more leverage and impact force on strikes) and did WAY better than all the Work Tuff knives except the Ares, which is likely due to its crazy stout geometry. Keep on breaking!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah true, that BUSSE did better! so after all BUSSE seems not to bad after all!
@BladeWalker77
@BladeWalker77 3 ай бұрын
I think the reason for the dispute with Busse is the crazy price. For that price, Joe expected incredible performance, considering there is no sheath included. All in all they are very good knives, but not worth the money for many people.
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 3 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on whether you need the extra toughness or corrosion resistance.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah probably! but they should make it in K329 steel!
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 3 ай бұрын
@@joex sounds like you like K329
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
@@wellregulated8725 Bear Claw did good!
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 3 ай бұрын
@@joex I’m sure Alex will be relieved! 😅 he’s been feeling the heat recently!
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 3 ай бұрын
Sk85 is a much better steel choice. Of course its 1085 basically nothing fancy. I like wtg designs just can't justify the price?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah too pricy here as well!
@ogorublackmaster2673
@ogorublackmaster2673 3 ай бұрын
Hola Joe, this blade in carbon steel is ok...no Kanens allowed in Joe X grounds. Marlboro...!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!
@jonbeck5945
@jonbeck5945 3 ай бұрын
I think this proves that if you’re going to get one, go with the carbon steel version. Still broke but took slightly more abuse. And it’s cheaper, far as I can tell. Give em hell Joe!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i bought another one already!
@centralfinitecurve-ling...
@centralfinitecurve-ling... 3 ай бұрын
@@joex It sounds like you're saying it IS worth buying, huh? I'm trying to get a straight answer outta you.
@elgrandjefe4661
@elgrandjefe4661 3 ай бұрын
JoeX - keep being surprised at how such thick blades just snap off. You win again. Heat treatment deficient?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think it is a ok blade! i am not sure what caused it!
@squick1842
@squick1842 3 ай бұрын
Now do Medford Praetorian T! 😀
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
never heard of her!
@squick1842
@squick1842 3 ай бұрын
(I get the joke 🙂) Just on the off chance you have never heard of Medford knives.They are supposed to be super strong. Stronger build than Cold Steel. Super hyped, with hardcore fanboys.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 3 ай бұрын
Don't those cost like over $1,000 US? I'm sure he'd test one if ya sent it lol
@squick1842
@squick1842 3 ай бұрын
@@jimbusmaximus4624 Maybe even more, i'm not updated on the recent price on those. But if they cost around 1k, he just used nearly half now on two versions of the same work tuff knives. The Medford Praetorian are legendary and mythic. And since they are so expensive, nobody has dared to do real stress test. Because of that I belive Joe would get alot of views on a video about it.
@TheGunsNBlades
@TheGunsNBlades 3 ай бұрын
@@squick1842 yes a Medford Praetorian in full Ti is anywhere from 700 to 1500 depending on options. They are bricks. Medford is the man, Joe would like Amy now that Greg and Amy are divorced. Joe may have to spit on it with Amy
@TheGunsNBlades
@TheGunsNBlades 3 ай бұрын
You snag a v44x? I dont see the X making it past the stump test👍👍🇺🇸
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
nope, not availabe here and i dont order one in CHYNA!!!!
@TheGunsNBlades
@TheGunsNBlades 3 ай бұрын
@@joex why the fook cant DHL air drop that? For the price of $32 shipping it should be able to ship anywhere. Where is Vlad? Since i have been back, i have not seen mrs & mr vlad….aka your Pimp on a Blimp Blade Pimps. 🫅🏼👸
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 3 ай бұрын
He doesn’t stop at the stump test…. You mean a piece of the tip would break after hammering the knife in?
@TheGunsNBlades
@TheGunsNBlades 3 ай бұрын
@@wellregulated8725 yeah, initial break I feel will be tip breakage at the stump. Game over after that. Should be able to pass the car without any major damage. Now if it was as thick as the Ares……😂
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 3 ай бұрын
@@TheGunsNBlades well see what the bear claw does. It’s in k329.
@6firefightin
@6firefightin 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro is here to fuck shit up. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@Vitali2101
@Vitali2101 3 ай бұрын
So,schon wieder Spielzeuge für Männer...🤙
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah!
@conger34
@conger34 3 ай бұрын
Funfact : Imagine what it ment to us as you Said: i bought one New for the Combat West , for MY combat vest.😊 it means: -OK; this is THE Field Knife.-(Worktuffgear will get wet Pants)
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah u could take this on! but dont forget your Espada XL!
@robertpogorzelski8513
@robertpogorzelski8513 3 ай бұрын
😎👍
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 3 ай бұрын
Work Tuff ain't as tough as Joe X tough. Hasta la vista, Wolverine.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
so true! it is kind of disappointing!
@tommcqueen3145
@tommcqueen3145 3 ай бұрын
👍👍
@StrelokTheStalker
@StrelokTheStalker 3 ай бұрын
You're back??????
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think i am back!
@centralfinitecurve-ling...
@centralfinitecurve-ling... 3 ай бұрын
So should I buy this, Joe?
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 3 ай бұрын
What you should ask yourself what would I really use this for? Most youtube people that buy these only collect them or make videos with them. I mean really how often are you gonna carry a 2pound knife around? A great knife for survival that you might actually carry is the 4 max scout. Just my 2 cents.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u should know that after the vid!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think richard is right!
@centralfinitecurve-ling...
@centralfinitecurve-ling... 3 ай бұрын
Damn, these are really disappointing answers. I don't need a folder. I'm looking for a camp knife since I go camping. Idk why you'd assume the billions of people on KZbin only buy knives to make videos with. That seems like a pretty stupid assumption; possibly your own projection. Furthermore, if you think people don't need knives other than making videos why suggest a robust folder anyway? None of this makes any sense at all. Kind of a bummer for a guy to review a fixed blade and suggest a folder in place of it and for a guy who watches knife reviews to not understand that a few of us, among the literal billions of people who watch KZbin, might actually use knives. Pretty fucking weird, I have to say. I don't understand these mental gymnastics going on here.
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman 3 ай бұрын
@@centralfinitecurve-ling... If you want a good knife I would highly recommend this. If you want something to pass joe x test go get a very thick prybar that has no useful functions of doing what a knife is supposed to do.
@conger34
@conger34 3 ай бұрын
K329 Böhler for the Jungle or close to the Ocean…
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok"
@marlennewhiterose3566
@marlennewhiterose3566 3 ай бұрын
eres aleman?
@centralfinitecurve-ling...
@centralfinitecurve-ling... 3 ай бұрын
Austrian
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
no estoy astriaco
@Мастер-ш3д
@Мастер-ш3д 3 ай бұрын
​@@joexгерманец?
@Gterr1971
@Gterr1971 3 ай бұрын
You made scab sad.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
sorry!
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397 3 ай бұрын
Simply not a reasonably reliable 'medium sized survival knife' as advertised. Not all that worthy of namesake Wolverine and Work T. The overall design and geometry are just not all that well thought out. Field testing and durability assessments for the blade can be viewed as being questionable. Relatively spendy and of what looks like little availability, plus all the issues and kinda lousy waranty is a no go for me. Another good show JoeX!!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks! when u see the big picture, it is too expensive for what u get, but i think in the US it is cheaper!
@okbit2646
@okbit2646 3 ай бұрын
Expensive and weak but I do love the design. I think we paid only for the design and handle😁😁. Damn😢
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
probably! i like that blade!
@russellcharles7839
@russellcharles7839 3 ай бұрын
I did ok. Don't think I would pay over $200 though. Didn't do that kind of cash good.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah, the handles are cool!
@russellcharles7839
@russellcharles7839 3 ай бұрын
@joex Yes, they are!
@h.s.5907
@h.s.5907 3 ай бұрын
Pleas try ♥️ Muthos homura MH-001 knive not to expensive i wand to see If Japan iron IS good or not. I try to see what gind of Metall but ITS secret so pleas testi what gind of shit IT IS 🙃
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
OMG what should that be???
@h.s.5907
@h.s.5907 3 ай бұрын
@@joex finded 😂😂 i dont know ITS weird steal. DBK try that knive they sey ITS weird Steen and pehave like supersteel. Then i try to find what steel IT IS. But i do not find enyvhere what IS hrc on this knive. Only i do know IS stainles steel and very tough steel
@h.s.5907
@h.s.5907 3 ай бұрын
Siirry For My Bad englis 🙈
@h.s.5907
@h.s.5907 3 ай бұрын
Sorry
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok
@aliveandkicking1977
@aliveandkicking1977 3 ай бұрын
Greetings from the beach. P o m f r i t a!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@heyarno
@heyarno 3 ай бұрын
Modern high carbon steels can be so clean and well heat treated, that they compete with super steels. It makes me sad that they are not widely appreciated, because they are "old".
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i feel u brother!
@mbawewe1
@mbawewe1 3 ай бұрын
😮😮😮wtf👎👎👎
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
kabumm!
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