I work maintenance at a college. Had a college kid say (with zero sarcasm) "I don't know why anyone would become an electrician, everything is going wireless"
@killersberg13 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and sad.
@map33843 жыл бұрын
Colleges are for idiots.
@hosmerhomeboy3 жыл бұрын
Wonder what he was taking lol
@jeffreymuu54513 жыл бұрын
@@map3384 That’s quite a broad statement. It’s not that people are idiots it’s that they’ve never been exposed to a certain subject.
@xijinping33173 жыл бұрын
My head hurts p
@floridaman73 жыл бұрын
They talk about their debt like they’re proud of it
@flyingvct72143 жыл бұрын
They want the debt yeah then they can play at being a capitolist victim is about being a victim cuz their losers
@reasonablespeculation38933 жыл бұрын
@@ericrodwell8706 Time to stop blaming others.... Time to wake-up to the multi decade scam that our education system has become... No one should be permitted to Graduate High School with ZERO marketable skills... As it is now, K thru 12 is mostly wasted time.
@DanielTorie3 жыл бұрын
It’s also nothing to be ashamed of.
@trustme76603 жыл бұрын
@@ericrodwell8706 but they know in the beginning how much the degree cost an they still chose to pursue it knowing there’s a chance they’ll actually find a job in there career parh
@YHauz-co3 жыл бұрын
1. Similar transfer is evident in “green economy” 2. Liberal education in US colleges is useless to society. Reverse is true, MBA’s keep ruining and outsourcing American factories
@nicoz65403 жыл бұрын
The worst part is having to pay someone else's loans when I already paid mine.
@Notallwhowanderarelost983 жыл бұрын
Apparently that’s a bad way to think according to some of my “friends”
@ginobenedetto49433 жыл бұрын
I gave up 4 years of my early 20s to get the GI Bill, and getting my engineering degree paid for. I can’t stand the kids on my campus saying it should be free.
@tactknightgaming20663 жыл бұрын
Stop paying taxes. Problem solved.
@patrickgjorven78323 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth.
@DrSlinkyWW3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Busted my ass to pay mine off after getting a job tangential to my area of study. I thought they were looking at introducing legislation to make the Universities accountable in situations where they continue to grant very expensive degrees with extremely low job placement rates. At some point they're knowingly encouraging a massive student debt bubble...
@icarusamerica34363 жыл бұрын
College is not for everyone, especially those who do not understand how a student loan works.
@scoobymc55753 жыл бұрын
These days, they can't tell time unless it's digital.
@icarusamerica34363 жыл бұрын
@@megabatmanmegaman8530 Imagine taking out a large student loan to attend a major university to get a degree that has a low salary range. Could have earned the same degree at the community college and not be in debt.
@pepperjack67493 жыл бұрын
Which is everyone at 17
@peterpowers48513 жыл бұрын
"Free", the professors will work for free out of the kindness of their own hearts.
@jbkibs3 жыл бұрын
they should be willing to considering the crap they spew.
@peterpowers48513 жыл бұрын
@@jbkibs hahahahaha!!!
@DavidPimentel3 жыл бұрын
They are often not worth even that. They should pay the students for the privilege of teaching.
@karlsracing84223 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@3joewj3 жыл бұрын
I'd higher the welding chick..I'd find something for her to weld...even though I don't have a welding business 😄
@dennistaylor39713 жыл бұрын
I have a 4 year Degree and I think people who go to College should ABSOLUTELY have to pay their loans back.
@SefuDonalBastet3 жыл бұрын
Sure... but what if they can't? Not "won't" but can't. As in not "not disabled enough" for a disability discharge, but not able/hired to work for enough to even cover the student loan interest. If you do what they tell you and take a "$0 monthly IBR" they will get crushed by the IRS for the 1099 "value" of the loan that got "forgiven"... and unlike the DOE, the IRS can come after you with guns and prison...
@sal1663 жыл бұрын
@@SefuDonalBastet What about the man who takes out a huge loan to buy a piece of equipment or property to grow his business, then certain politicians policies crush his industry, should tax payers pay for his loan too? Maybe you should point the fingers at the education institution that is both profit driven and government funded for not teaching you to handle your finances properly. No onee pointed a gun at your head and told you to take out that loan, you made a decision.
@jamesscott69173 жыл бұрын
@@SefuDonalBastet If they are capable of getting a college degree, they are capable of working. You are talking about a VANISHINGLY small number of people and implying that it is a large number of people. You are talking about two, perhaps three, people in each class. Then people like you accuse those who want to carry concealed as "fearmongers" while engaging in......fearmongering. If they are healthy enough to go through the rigors of college matriculation, they are healthy enough to work. As for the IRS coming after someone for the taxes for a forgiven loan (FREE MONEY), GOOD. They skinned me for what I EARNED, I see no problem with the IRS skinning them for what THEY DID NOT EARN.
@JJ-in3bc3 жыл бұрын
@@SefuDonalBastet Bryan... this concept may blow your brains right out of your head, you ready Bryan?: You treat one group more favorably than another group, it's called... discrimination. 1) What about those who did pay off their student debt? 2) Or worked and put themselves through college? 3) Or funded and entrepeoured a successful business? 4) Equity is the new soy boy buzz word... but it's more a "me, me, me & FUCK YOU!" How about every USA citizen get $50,000 applied, to their choice of "forgiveness" and not DISCRIMINATE.
@JJ-in3bc3 жыл бұрын
@Bryan Potratz Bryan... this concept may blow your brains right out of your head, you ready Bryan?: You treat one group more favorably than another group, it's called... discrimination. 1) What about those who did pay off their student debt? 2) Or worked and put themselves through college? 3) Or funded and entrepeoured a successful business? 4) Equity is the new soy boy buzz word... but it's more a "me, me, me & FUCK YOU!" How about every USA citizen get $50,000 applied, to their choice of "forgiveness" and not DISCRIMINATE.
@schroederscurrentevents38443 жыл бұрын
“We socialists fight for the workers” “But also the workers should pay for the bourgeoisie’s degrees”
@lll91073 жыл бұрын
yup, get rekt. I am 100% stereotyping here but it seems like those people burning their debt slips or w/e most likely have an Arts degree, probably some Ethnic Studies, maybe Psychology and History too. I don't see any engineers or medical doctors in the crowd. I went to college but already paid off my loans. Damn, I missed the gravy train.
@terrybeckman61553 жыл бұрын
Well if you fight for me, GET THE HELL OF MY SIDE. You have no clue about how I work or anyone like me works. You CHOSE your debt and I chose mine. I'm not demanding you pay my mortgage. So suck it up. Pay your debt and stop expecting others to pay for you
@SenorJuan20233 жыл бұрын
HELLO, it's the working class who needs student loans in the first place.
@ingridarvidsson75973 жыл бұрын
What exacly does socialists do? Look at venexuela look at sweden not really the truth.
@LordOfNihil3 жыл бұрын
@@lll9107 i for one think these colleges need to take the loss for teaching these kids a bunch of crap they can never use in the real world. from high school, these kids were scammed into these colleges on fraudulent claims, convinced to sign their lives away to attend, and are told lies about what jobs they can expect and how in demand they will be when they get out. rather than shift it to the tax payer why not shift it to the schools themselves. they seem to have more money than brains. defund universities and hold them accountable for their own lies!
@GuyB7903 жыл бұрын
"There is not a single loan I have ever taken out, where I didn't have an expectation put on myself that I was going to re-pay it" Summarizes it perfectly.
@hensonlaura3 жыл бұрын
She has character.
@beneaton17763 күн бұрын
The fact that she WORKED to pay her debt while those bratty little cunts expect to demand it from others is infuriating.
@larrykramer27613 жыл бұрын
My wife wants our 3 kids to go to college "no matter what". The irony is she went to college, took out loans, and 20 years later STILL makes less than $20 an hour as a preschool teacher (no degree required). I told my kids (all teens) to only go to college if they want to pursue a career that requires it. Otherwise, save your money and don't go.
@tonyrmathis3 жыл бұрын
Your wife is a leftist elitist who thinks her degree represents her worth as a person. Her chosen profession might very well be a means to a political end. The new religion needs converts just like all other religions. What better place than in the schools.
@barryallenflash13 жыл бұрын
You are a very wise man Larry!
@timothydoyle96353 жыл бұрын
Both my parents have degrees. I spent a year at a technical school and make double my mother, and even with my dad after 5 years. All with my loans paid off in two years. No brainer to avoid the college debt. The world will always need welders, plumbers, electricians, mechanics, ect. Also electrician is a good field to start now in with the large push for EVs as everyone is going to get 110, or 220v outlets for charging in garages. Inductive charging pads(for cars) as well, like BMW has for an opition. Or higher as 80a home chargers are on the way along.
@larrykramer27613 жыл бұрын
@@tonyrmathis not true, but I can see why you would think that. She went to college to please her mother.
@larrykramer27613 жыл бұрын
@Mike Quick true!
@psychochicken95353 жыл бұрын
My cousin tried to get me to go to college with him. He called me up AT MY JOB to tell me this. I asked him how I was supposed to pay for college if I quit my job. He said I would get a better job when I graduate college. I said "I'm making money now, I have money in the bank, and I have a car. You don't have any of those things."
@adamwashington2733 жыл бұрын
Well, God bless you sir and everyone else.
@jamespruett273 жыл бұрын
college is a trophy for moms. If you don't go to college but still make bank, your mom will still be disappointed. Women are wired that way....
@TEAMGETHELP3 жыл бұрын
@@jamespruett27 NEVER simp.
@mumbomojo5793 жыл бұрын
Not all of us were born with rich daddies to gift us jobs, prick.
@IffyEdem3 жыл бұрын
My mom came to this country and got on the job training and has been a senior pharmacy tech for about 20 years. No debt
@13dart843 жыл бұрын
I went for a four year degree, graduated, struggled in the job market and switched to the trades. Wished I had realized that sooner.
@billyoung81183 жыл бұрын
Same. I earned a B.S. in electrical engineering emphasizing computer chip design during 10 years of night classes while working full-time days. Engineering programs must be done in a very distinct order. You can't take electronics 2 until you finish electronics 1. You can't take electronics 1 until you finish circuits 2. You can take circuits 2 until you finish circuits 1. You can't take circuits 1 until you finish differential equations. You can't take differential equations until you are done with calc 3....which requires calc 2, which requires calc 1. The list goes on and on. Classes are not offered every semester during evening hours, so you are constantly trying to figure out what to take in what order to satisfy prerequisites. Hence 10 years to graduate. Anyway, graduated in 2002 during the tech bubble burst. Never worked even 1 day in the EE field. Now I'm a statistician in the insurance industry. My high school math, plus a couple of college statistics classes, would have gotten me to the same place I am today. If I could do it over again, I would have finished a degree in math instead of EE.
@GigiloveRB7773 жыл бұрын
I realize I had a good guidance counselor. She flat out told me I shouldn't go to college and should go to trade school. I did that and don't regret it. I do buisness in real estate now but I feel if I went to school I would be a broke smart idiot if I did.
@Ja2808R3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@MrSocal19903 жыл бұрын
Same here !
@danielguaracha75313 жыл бұрын
If you were willing to start fresh in a new trade, why didn't you extend your B.A. to a Masters or more?
@brianthomas80983 жыл бұрын
John: a bigger question that you need to address : Why is college so expensive? It goes up 5 to 10% every year and has for the last 30+ years. Why is no one looking into this?
@sampetrie3403 жыл бұрын
In an effort to help students, and to make college achievable to anyone, the federal government created student loans. Tuition, which normally is limited by the ability of the student body to pay, suddenly had no such containment. Like a lottery winner, university leadership became very creative in finding things to spend money on. And they passed the bill to students who were themselves complicit by selecting schools with posh housing, expansive campuses, and semesters abroad. The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions.
@jacobodom84013 жыл бұрын
@@sampetrie340 Give me a break- Loans were privatized and thus those companies were incentivized to max out profits. Not to mention the bloated administration branch of colleges. This road was not paved with good intentions, it was paved with laziness and greed.
@sampetrie3403 жыл бұрын
@@jacobodom8401 I am not quite sure that I understand your point. Is it that you believe that rising college costs is due to greedy lenders rather than the federal government ? There is a lot of blame to go around (including quite a lot to the borrowers themselves), but the (honestly) good intentioned government plays its part. For better or worse, student loans are a response to a less wealthy segment of the population who desire the same opportunities for higher education as the children of the elites have. The federal government plays its part by guaranteeing the loans, meaning lenders don’t have to worry about the credit worthiness of the borrower. If it weren’t for this intervention, it is doubtful that lenders would offer loans to very many students. The government also created laws making it impossible to discharge student loan debt through bankruptcy. No, the well-intentioned federal government deserve its share of blame for creating a bottomless well of money which schools and students are only too happy to avail themselves of. Which party is being “greedy”? Well, all of them.
@PolPotsPieHole3 жыл бұрын
@@sampetrie340 when I went to school in 2003 I was called into the student loan office at least 3 times that I remember. The counselor was pushing student loan money on me like a used car salesman. We can pay your rent, your food, car payment ect as long as I was in school. I said no thanks and only borrowed around 20000 which I paid off well over 10 years ago. Imagine what most kids do. Its messed up
@sampetrie3403 жыл бұрын
@@PolPotsPieHole That is a scary story. They may have THOUGHT they were helping the students, but too often it didn’t work out that way. Good for you that you resisted the temptation to take more than you absolutely needed to achieve your well thought out goals.
@elc77953 жыл бұрын
“You go to hell because I’m not paying it”. My thoughts exactly on me paying for someone else’s college. Instead of taking on student loan debt, I invested in myself with tools, equipment and vehicles. It has turned out a lot better than those I know with a degree.
@michaelg83633 жыл бұрын
You have a point as well. You spent money on equipment as a path to employment. College is supposed to be a path to employment as well. Why should a college student get that path for free, while you have to pay for yours?
@AllNighterHeider3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I own about $75k in tools that I've paid for over the course of ten years. Those tools have allowed me to earn around 12 times that amount in those ten years. And I am free of personal debt. But being that we have a debt based monetary system, I want to get into investment grade debt past my eye balls.
@barryallenflash13 жыл бұрын
So, apparently they are teaching absolutely NOTHING in college, especially about loans! The ironic thing about ALL this is, these are "supposed" to be educated people, so you'd "think" they would know a little something about a loan and how it works! Guess not!
@oscarb91393 жыл бұрын
@@barryallenflash1 They have to take classes on equality to get a degree.
@mikearmbruster21713 жыл бұрын
They'll just learn to steal tools and hock them then burn down what you. Built
@bob.e.coyote3 жыл бұрын
I was pressured to go to college by my family. I dropped out , wasn’t for me. I’ve been at the same job for 23 years and do a lot better than them.
@FuddlyDud3 жыл бұрын
You were more responsible than most of the country! ;) What do you do if you don’t mind me asking?
@brpadington3 жыл бұрын
I got a grant to go to school. When I finished the first two years at a community College I dropped out. I found out it would cost me 25k to finish the degree and I would have a hard time making any money with a political science degree so I dropped out and started in the job market. I went from McDonald's to being a systems engineer with no College loan debt.
@yoellopez823 жыл бұрын
Exactly i also am upset with that mentality which was also brought on to them. My mom is the same my dad not. Im worried for my sister shes more of a pushover and i hope she takes her decision and not my moms desicion. I tell her atleast work for a year. Whats the rush?
@Steel-Pinnings3 жыл бұрын
This is the results of hard work, dedication, and perseverance. Not handouts!
@lennys.45883 жыл бұрын
@@brpadington Damn, good for you!
@Phan2573 жыл бұрын
Public education from the moment you are in kindergarten tells you that success is only possible by going to college. For the next 13 years, you are told that you must go to college, and anything else is no different than failure.
@OFFONE3 жыл бұрын
And it’s s lie, colleges extort thousands and can’t help students land s job
@bingusmctingus43953 жыл бұрын
Yup, I’m about to start a job driving a semi, and I’m going to be making around 90-100k in my first year. I’m 22, was homeschooled, and don’t have a GED, or college degree. It’s about where you look, and what can provide the best opportunity for you in life.
@SinginRabbit3 жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't. I'm a public school teacher , and we don't push that on kids in the schools I've worked at. In fact, we offer a variety of pathways for students to choose from.
@benjamindover10173 жыл бұрын
What country are you from? I wish i had teachers like you here in America.
@michaelangeloevans27223 жыл бұрын
@@SinginRabbit you are lying to yourself and to everyone else.
@marcuswright84183 жыл бұрын
$180K in student loan debt How do you get up every morning knowing you have this debt because of poor choices you made. Shameless.
@simplytom12132 жыл бұрын
You get up every morning to go your Engineering job and get paid 100k, then pay off your debt in like 3 years. As for the "useless degrees", idk... You wake up to brag about it.
@adamdrouin22953 жыл бұрын
We have a severe epidemic of people who refuse to take personal responsibility for their actions or decisions they make in life. Then they expect others to pay for their bad life choices
@SenorJuan20233 жыл бұрын
Guess they learned those lessons from the federal government and Wall St.
@dewfall563 жыл бұрын
It all started with the obama administration.
@adamdrouin22953 жыл бұрын
@@dewfall56 It started way before Obama but he certainly exacerbated the situation
@Sy0exec3 жыл бұрын
@@dewfall56 na. look at all the single parents on welfare. that has been going on for decades
@OthO673 жыл бұрын
@@dewfall56 It goes back further than that.
@kimiknows3 жыл бұрын
My father was basically illiterate and he dropped out of school in the tenth grade. This did not stop him from being a small business owner, though! He did well enough in life that he was able to take care of his family and still be able to have a life himself. I used to be ashamed he couldn't read, but now I see what he overcame despite it.
@alangilmer33923 жыл бұрын
Just because someone can't read while doesn't mean you're not smart
@heavymetalredneck79733 жыл бұрын
You should be proud of him and what he accomplished 👍🇺🇲
@kimiknows3 жыл бұрын
@@alangilmer3392 The shame I felt originated from both he and my mom, but I never viewed my father as stupid or dumb.
@kimiknows3 жыл бұрын
@@heavymetalredneck7973 I am very proud of his accomplishments now. My dad not only couldn't read, he also grew up dirt poor so he had to overcome a lot in the early part of his life.
@justacasualgamer19573 жыл бұрын
I feel you same case over here
@kimghanson3 жыл бұрын
"A degree is absolutely worth it." Really? So why are the grads not willing to pay that price? The disconnect is real.
@luddity3 жыл бұрын
Worth it only if it doesn't leave you with a lifetime of crippling debt.
@alancats3 жыл бұрын
Nobody is holding a gun to students' heads and forcing them to take on a "lifetime of crippling debt." People possess volition, agency, free will and choices. Private colleges costing $60,000-plus, annually, are not the only available higher education options. Those who willfully incur massive amounts of student debt so that they can obtain an utterly worthless and economically non-self-sustaining degree in a nonsensical discipline such as Women's Studies, Queer Studies, Ethnic Studies, etc., and then complain about their debt, attempting to shirk their debt obligations, are not deserving of sympathy and should receive none. That's a rational perspective from any person who believes that all adults are responsible for their own personal financial decisions.
@Misaka-gt5yj3 жыл бұрын
@@luddity If you took that lifetime of crippling debt without any results post-graduation, the fault is entirely on YOU. Other taxpaying citizens should not have to compensate for your lack of competency.
@allsek74333 жыл бұрын
@@Misaka-gt5yj Yet OTHER taxpaying citizens are forced to pay out of their wallet to buy useless stealth aircraft that's billions of dollars to "foreign aid" to israel
@cariroundy78143 жыл бұрын
Michelle Obama is promoting college because that is where students can become indoctrinated with leftist ideologies... 🤦🏼♀️
@billbass38017 күн бұрын
Having the government pay your bills. It’s the ultimate form of injustice being promoted by those so-called justice Warriors. Our culture is teaching people that justice is important but it’s always got to be at someone else’s cost and not their own
@williamlehan40793 жыл бұрын
I wanted to he a carpenter as a kid. My mom steered me toward college instead. I did poorly in college and spun my wheels for awhile afterward. I became a teacher at 28 but struggled in that profession for many years. Now I’m 51 and have been building and selling furniture for about 6 months. I wish I’d listened to myself when I was as younger.
@mdel3103 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about going into carpentry myself in the future, my senior year I made a nightstand in woodshop that I still have 15 years later and have always considered it as a nice side job/hobby to get extra dough.
@cgall44443 жыл бұрын
FtheTAKERS!!!
@lisapalmeno44883 жыл бұрын
Jesus was a carpenter! It's honest work with your hands. Not everybody is cut out for teaching, and fewer still for teaching for a lifetime and it is a lifetime commitment, really. I was a sub for many years and keep saying that I'm going back, but I just haven't gotten that far. Lol.
@cirmiz3 жыл бұрын
So when you do "poorly in college" you become a teacher... No wonder that the education in US is down the drain.
@alyupde93373 жыл бұрын
My husband wanted to be an art-history major. His dad thought that was useless. He pushed him into finance like him since he was paying. My husband hates math! He has an associate degree and a good job that he likes that pays well. He still wants to be a teacher: teaching art or history or music or gym. I had no idea what I wanted to do. I was pushed to get an associates in business while I figured it out. I dropped out hating it. I was pushed into nursing. I dropped out. I hated it. I was called into ministry while in nursing school. Went back to school and now just got my associates but finally know exactly what I’m doing with my life and am happy about it at 28. I give you props for making it through college doing something you hated! That is so hard! I’m so happy you found what you like and are doing it no matter how long it took! Some/Most don’t they go with what others want or money at the expense of happiness. Happiness isn’t everything but I’ll take it over money any day!
@art_thoromeo5043 жыл бұрын
I went to school for 7 years to get a doctorate in physical therapy (first 4 years were useless, didn't get to learn my trade until the last 3 years). I worked really hard to pay off my loans and it kills me to listen to humanities whine about student loans and how they can't pay them off. Live cheap, get on a budget, attack the debt.
@grantjohnson57853 жыл бұрын
And that's why every student should be required to take a course from Dave Ramsey. (Even though I'm against making even good things "required by law", in general...)
@ethanmaxwell22353 жыл бұрын
Any tips for me? I just finished my first year of undergrad and I’m planning on getting a doctorate in physical therapy as well. I have to pay for my tuition all by myself so the idea of paying for 6 more years of school is a bit overwhelming. It’s my dream job to be a PT but I often ask myself if all of this is worth it.
@art_thoromeo5043 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmaxwell2235 new PTs make something like 65,000-70,000 starting (at least in my state). My advise is live CHEAP. I lived at home with my parents and worked part time jobs to pay cash for community college. Community college ran me $~3,000/yr while the 4 year university ran me $12,000 a year. So cuts like that early on is great long term, so then you don't have the interest building for the next 6 years. If you have to take out loans or have them already, pay off the interest every month (federal loans make you wait 4 months before you can pay on the interest because the government is dirty like that, but you can pay it after that time period). I paid my interest every month in PT school and saved something like $6,000 in compounded interest. I love my job as a PT but it can be high stress and the pay is not great compared to how much school you have to go through. If that scares you, my husband is a software engineer, learns every day at his job, solves problems and makes $~18,000 more a year than me with a 4 year degree. If you are super passionate about PT, following your dreams. But also remember and realize you will sacrifice years of your life to debt if you don't attack it right after graduation. Sorry for the long answer, but hope that helps friend! Good luck with school
@ethanmaxwell22353 жыл бұрын
@@art_thoromeo504 Thank you. Much appreciated
@oneofmany10873 жыл бұрын
I Can't just takes longer..
@Lopfff3 жыл бұрын
Woke college kids: “Corporations are greedy!” Woke college kids: “The taxpayer should pay for my degree!”
@usernamunavailiable3 жыл бұрын
Well there was a time when corporations would pay your tuition. What changed the government came along and said they'd make sure everyone can go to college. Of course this just made colleges increase tuition prices.
@SenorJuan20233 жыл бұрын
They do in the rest of the developed world. Guess the USA isn't smart enough to figure out a way to do it.
@SenorJuan20233 жыл бұрын
@@usernamunavailiable Now, almost all companies expect the workers to pay for their training, with no guarantee they will even hire them. SMH
@dewfall563 жыл бұрын
@@SenorJuan2023 Yeah, so why is it then, that hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world still come to America and pay for an education rather than go to a free school in their own country?
@SenorJuan20233 жыл бұрын
@@dewfall56 HUNDREDS of thousands? LOL, perhaps a few go to the top IVY LEAGUE schools, but that's about it. and much of the time, it has just as much to do with networking with other elites than the education itself.
@areyoukiddingme98113 жыл бұрын
Difference between intelligence and stupidity? Trade school graduate that has a choice of jobs vs college graduate that can't find a job.
@0my3 жыл бұрын
College: would you like to attend? This is the cost. Student: yes please, i acknowledge the cost. College: please pay Student: you go to hell
@Kreeos3 жыл бұрын
The problem is also big, expensive universities. I went to a community college and I only paid $2,500 a semester.
@ericgan77423 жыл бұрын
many students dont have to choice and are pressured by society to go to college
@i12flytoday3 жыл бұрын
@@ericgan7742 That's as bad as saying "Many gang members were pressured by society to become a gang member so they shouldn't be responsible for the murders they committed." A person ALWAYS has a choice. It might be between many different options, all of which they don't like, but they have the choice, and therefore, the responsibility of living with that choice. Make the choice to get a degree in something marketable, make the choice to work during the summer to help pay for it, and make the choice to live frugally and pay back any loans as quickly as possible.
@i12flytoday3 жыл бұрын
@@Kreeos Notice how every time the government ups the maximum amount a student can take out in loans the Universities up tuition to just over that amount?
@bdeheton64453 жыл бұрын
Signing a contract for a loan with no intention of repayment constitutes fraud.
@rnrtruestories3 жыл бұрын
it's funny having gone through college for a 4 year degree i don't think i would recommend it these days as 2 year trade schools seem more attractive and practical. I took STEM
@HontasFarmer803 жыл бұрын
It does not have to be an either or. One can go to a trade school and be job ready after two years. One can go to college for something practical and be even more job ready and with fewer barriers after four years. One can go to community college for two, as they learn their trade, get an associates degree and apply that credit to a four year degree. As honorable as it may sound only presenting a higher quality workforce can the US set itself apart from so many places where the cost of labor will always be cheaper.
@toobnoobify3 жыл бұрын
It depends completely on what you study. You have to go to college for STEM or medicine, which makes sense. But half of all college graduates have degrees in social science or liberal arts, which are completely worthless to society (i.e. no marketable skills). In which case a trade would have been a far better life choice. The problem is that the kind of students who take liberal arts or social sciences, either don't want to or can't do trade work. I am fine with helping students get degrees _that the market needs._ But there's no way I'm paying for someone to take social sciences. edit: I'm not saying there are no fields in social sciences/liberal arts with value (e.g. economics, psychology), I'm generalizing.
@THall-vi8cp3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the career field. Sure a university takes longer and supposedly opens more doors, but my local junior college offers trade certificates that will get people working fast. For example, there is a lot of construction in my area. A certificate in carpentry or welding would be a foot in the door to making not just a decent living, but an excellent living. My uncle is a retired welder and made enough as a single source of income to pay for everything his family needs, his three kids' college, and a comfortable retirement working only six months out of the year. Too many "entry level" jobs around here ask for years of job of experience and a four-year degree and pay $30,000 a year. Add to that the glut of college grads and you see that prospective employees have to under-bid each other to be more attractive to employers.
@Hackenberg3 жыл бұрын
I think I would have been a lot happier getting Electrical Engineering Technologies degree rather than the one I chose.
@fakeshemp95993 жыл бұрын
Hey! I was just listening to one of your videos earlier today. Good channel you got there!
@WesternkindArt3 жыл бұрын
I am a teacher and I tell my students what we were told decades ago: not everyone needs to go to college. I am starting to see vocational schools make a comeback in my community and it is welcomed, indeed.
@grimview3 жыл бұрын
I recommend finding out which companies actually hire for those trades; as well as, teach students how to get a job. I took Drafting & begged the teacher to send me on another interview at a second company, but he refused. I did not consider asking for a list of companies & contacts. It seemed like those that got jobs in a trade already had connections thru their parents, since I caught them discussing jobs they got months before I finally got 1 interview. Our school canceled "mock" interview in favor of creative stories. They did not teach us the difference between a W2, 1099, or W9. Only in communist countries do they give out jobs & graduating without a job was something I never considered as possibility.
@thedude67123 жыл бұрын
@@grimview My son went to a technical high school, where the civil engineering teacher gave advice on the different levels of jobs and careers available in the field. He was taught that with X certifications you can do Y roles, and with A trade school programs that last B long, you can also do C roles, and finally with 4-year college degrees (and beyond) you can be eligible for these roles. He graduated high school actually holding multiple certificates which would allow him to do survey work and some similar things professionally. My son went a different direction in college, but he retains those as "fallback" options if necessary. Good schools do teach this kind of thing.
@ih82r83 жыл бұрын
Apprenticeships can and should be encouraged. We had a president who wanted to bring industry back but I guess we see how much people are interested in working for a living.
@zacharyosvald2513 жыл бұрын
I just graduated from my vocational high school for carpentry. The only reason why Im going to college is because I got D1 scholarships. If I didnt get those scholarships, I would be working in the field right now
@CarGroves3 жыл бұрын
I have four kids, two have the potential for college and two are perfect for a trade school. Thank you for understanding this and promoting it.
@mikkelnpetersen3 жыл бұрын
Citizens in countries with "free" education, mostly learn in grade school, that said "free" education is paid via taxes. It cost money, and said money have to come from either the person, or the people, it dosen't come from empty air.
@hayesydays63333 жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t come from empty air. As a citizen from one of those countries I can assure you that we are happy to pay our taxes to ensure all kids get the same access to a decent education. In a first world country your income shouldn’t determine your right to learn or access healthcare. That’s what a strong government does. It manages money correctly so all citizens can benefit.
@dislikebutton38873 жыл бұрын
@@hayesydays6333 great well some people have healthcare from their job and would perfer just to pay their loans with their money that doesn't get stolen from them with taxes rather than pay for every idiot to get an underwater basket weaving degree
@hayesydays63333 жыл бұрын
@@dislikebutton3887 You’re obviously American. Good day to you.
@ebonyaddison3021 Жыл бұрын
@@hayesydays6333 I'm American. I think it's really stupid to think that everyone should pay higher taxes in order for a few people to attend college and get degrees. College degrees aren't necessary to be successful. Skilled trade jobs give people the money to be happy and live. It's not necessary to go to college to get good jobs. And it's stupid for everyone to pay higher taxes in order for people to for healthcare. If you would work and get a job, your company can provide the healthcare you want and you simply pay for it yourself.
@arealmaniac28853 жыл бұрын
My dad barley passed high school, started his own fabrication shop after being foreman for many years, and had to teach my brother how to run a business even after my brother got his masters in business. Actually doing the job is more valuable then being told how to do a job.
@larrydewein4013 жыл бұрын
Bingo! You hit the nail right on the head! I learned MANY times more in a certain field I was in than in the CLASSROOM talking about it!!
@mikhailhunter52773 жыл бұрын
College CANNOT teach business... They'll teach how sound like you know what you're talking about when you try to get investors. But business is a on the job learning experience.
@Tyshkevich3 жыл бұрын
No words will ever be more valuable than actual experience.
@jiujitsustudent6043 жыл бұрын
Many farmers barley make it through school. They can’t wheat to get out and do real work. Sitting in a classroom goes against the grain for them.
@nathanhiggins14383 жыл бұрын
"I will prove it to you." That's the attitude of a winner. She understood she was asking for something, not owed something and she wanted to earn it.
@KandiKlover3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of an old country song I heard before "Looking for a handout"
@cpellis49493 жыл бұрын
The things a college kid would say “I deserve it” the entitlement is so real.and then after all the privilege they feel like they did it completely based on effort and not privileged entitled lifestyle of not paying debts.
@mzebari3 жыл бұрын
Stossel for President!
@endorbr3 жыл бұрын
He’s too smart for that
@Dew2Much3 жыл бұрын
@@endorbr yeah
@owengg91573 жыл бұрын
Literally
@tonycstech3 жыл бұрын
Vote for Trump. He knows all that and has the money to fix it.
@FredSmith-s5t3 ай бұрын
I worked 3 jobs and graduated with no studend debt.
@luisthekingjaime942 ай бұрын
Good man
@markthompson41113 жыл бұрын
As a shop teacher from 1980 until 2020, I watched the demise of industrial classes in California public schools. From the 1990's on the whole focus for schools was to prepare students for college. Not to prepare student for their own future or for life! I made an effort as I adapted to the new curricular ideas of technology education and then the big engineering push trying to maintain as much hands-on individual skill development within these programs as possible. We have crippled our society by eliminating these basic classes.
@maybunny89563 жыл бұрын
I went to a high school that was hyper focused on academics (we have different schools focused on different subjects in my district) and I was really excited about getting to high school because I wanted to take a shop class and I heard that this class was offered in high school but they didn't offer it and that was a real bummer
@imnotsmartbutimdumb3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard recordings and conversations between dumb teachers on zoom being recorded talking about how the first 5 or 6 classes will be about some social issue whilist the class is about physical therapy. The whole game changes when you go from learning knowledge and the how-to of any given subject to some teacher trying to promote their own personal philosophy on life, masquerading as a class on whatever. Activists pretending to be teachers is quite an effective strategy I can’t blame them, while they are learning real things and important stuff intertwine it with your political agenda, sort of a subliminal brainwashing if your good, one last point I’ll make and this one I’m kinda going out there but why don’t you see protests and marches in high schools? Is it right as you hit 19 you feel that urge? Or is it where the teachers who are pros at this stuff are located? Nazi children were a thing so don’t tell me it can’t be done early. That is just a random take so I dunno.
@jerrodsand6373 жыл бұрын
I completely agree where are basic classes. And common sense today's kids have no idea how to fix the simplest things or even cook. If they think everyone only had to go to college to get a paper good luck always having to call on the SKILLED minority to fix their rotted windows leaking roof or broken vehicle. Soon the skilled will be the most valued, the next generation will be helpless.
@mike25103 жыл бұрын
I went to a JC and then a state school, worked 15 to 25 hours per week and majored in microbiology. Never needed a loan and was able to get a job immediately after graduation. It’s frustrating to see kids not work through school, go to expensive colleges, and major in grievance studies, then complain about debt.
@iamnotamused3173 жыл бұрын
There is a difference. You took classes that could get you a job. Wonder how many jobs there are out there for basketweaving?
@Amazon5993 жыл бұрын
I spent 4 years in college/university and in the end don't do anything those certificates say I studied. But I also worked all through school, paid off my loan and bought a house by 25. Now I sell steel to all these awesome trades people. I hate how others always want a free ride and don't want to take personal responsibility
@SpeedySailor3 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotamused317 Basket weaving knowledge can be used for designing old fashioned laundry, fruit, designer storage baskets and structures. Plus if CAD was included, then 3D printing.
@iamnotamused3173 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedySailor Hmm, hadn't thought of it that way. Gonna have to think about a new useless oldtimey degree now. How about buggy whip designer?
@rishiramkissoon69763 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotamused317 Creative writing, Poli Sci, sociology
@bigblack98193 жыл бұрын
A lot of these students look like the real decision is whether to pay their student loans or buy more Little Debbie snack cakes.
@murraysaucedo8973 жыл бұрын
For so called broke indebted college students they sure as hell don’t seem to be missing out on many meals
@BythepeopleForthepeople2033 жыл бұрын
If they cut down on the Little Debbie snack cakes, they'll be able to pay the school loans! 🤣
@zenocopy75803 жыл бұрын
Facts maybe a gym membership
@kevinarnett85903 жыл бұрын
I'm dead
@geraldspray14163 жыл бұрын
But Little Debbie snack cakes aren't expensive! :)
@kevjay-med12253 жыл бұрын
I think there's a middle ground here. I want to become a Doctor. I NEED to be in Medical school, but the cost is horrible. 70k per year with 5% interest. Why are we penalizing graduate degrees? Why not control costs to around 35k per year and cut the interest rate to match inflation? Similarly, engineers, who are also blue-collar workers, gotta go to college. Why are we sacking honest workers with 70k per year tuition? We should be upset that colleges and schools have become so elitist and instead focus on making the OPTION to learn more accessible.
@NoKamalaIn20253 жыл бұрын
I watched a video a few years ago where college professors were advocating for this "free education" and I thought to myself, if you're all for the free college why don't you and your colleagues volunteer to teach these free classes that way you can practice what you preach!
@miguelruiz46133 жыл бұрын
They sell overpriced books that the teachers sell with a code that you need and it can't be reused
@drttgb49553 жыл бұрын
@@miguelruiz4613 and every year they make a few addendum on those books and force you to buy the latest.
@desarguesbaptiste55773 жыл бұрын
I mean teacher have to get paid to eat no?
@chinashorts14913 жыл бұрын
They'd love to just teach and be paid fairly, but that's not possible. The colleges and universities are screwing the staff too, but those accredited degrees are REQUIRED by HR to get any job.
@Steve0073624363 жыл бұрын
@@desarguesbaptiste5577 So who is going to pay a teacher when education is free?
@KatanaBart3 жыл бұрын
Odd to think that until not too long ago, and for centuries, University was for only the best and the brightest. Now it's just for the sake of a piece of paper.
@Blackout.16443 жыл бұрын
As for me, this is why I chose not to go to college. I was really good in school but saw a lot of the BS the college crowd was pushing
@StatsMass3 жыл бұрын
Deindustrailization, consolidation, globalization. All of these have been going on for decades. A large chunk of our GDP is in fields that require degrees. However that work is also done by fewer people per output. Gives a false impression of economic opportunity.
@unlockwithjsr3 жыл бұрын
@@StatsMass very true, very specialized jobs like in Tech need a lot of hard work
@Dyrlingur3 жыл бұрын
The greatest wisdom written here. I agree to the core of each and every cell that make me. These people who go to college today do nothing for the world as a whole.
@ericbader3 жыл бұрын
@@BugJuiceFlavor it won't happen. As so many schools have chased growth in tuition revenue, they built more facilities, new departments, expanded staff and curriculum. Need stable and/or increased revenue to finance debt used to increase capacity and capability of the school and the cycle continues
@thejakyl13693 жыл бұрын
Whats the point of a free education when what these kids are learning wont actually pay the bills anyway?
@itsatrap72153 жыл бұрын
Politicians and media are persuading a lot of young people into thinking you go to college to get a degree to make good money when you get out. Yet, many of these kids go into college for dumb stuff that doesn't translate into a good paying job. They are lied to that getting a degree helps them in life when it's specific degrees help them in life and they should research it beforehand.
@gusmc222011 күн бұрын
@itsatrap7215 exactly. There should NOT be loans nor grants for anything outside of STEM. If they want those fu fu degrees they need to pay out of pocket for them
@stevenbluestone63923 жыл бұрын
Mr stossel is absolutely right ..... Again, Thank you for the video.
@pippetandpossum3 жыл бұрын
My sister thought college should be free, then she graduated and thought debt should be cancelled for those with "essential degrees" but not useless degrees (she has a teaching degree). Now that her debt is almost paid off, she no longer thinks any of it should be free🤨
@eternalvigilance56973 жыл бұрын
Typical. Haha.
@lisapalmeno44883 жыл бұрын
My man tells an old adage: Now that I've eaten, I see things differently.
@bonejam82313 жыл бұрын
She sounds like she suffers from libtardation.
@iwontreplybacklol74813 жыл бұрын
@@bonejam8231 horrible disease, for many, its incurable as it attaches to the brain stem permanently retarding them from understanding simple concepts forever.
@elgatochurro3 жыл бұрын
A, ah typical woman... Whatever's convenient is best
@tmatt19993 жыл бұрын
Let's discuss this, I did well in High School and the SAT. Since I couldn't afford college I went into the Marine Corps. When I got out of the Marines I became an electrical journeyman and went to college for electrical engineering. My employer paid for my master's in mechanical engineering. The amount of money that I borrowed was $0.00.
@chinashorts14913 жыл бұрын
"Since I couldn't afford college, I went into the Marine Corps." You're saying we should all just be Marines then? We can't afford it either.
@honkytonk44653 жыл бұрын
@@chinashorts1491 what???
@Frame_Late3 жыл бұрын
@@chinashorts1491 or, and hear me out, you can get a job after high school, work a few years and save up lots of money, and take online courses or go to an inexpensive community College, most of which are free, and then go to a inexpensive, local university where you can get a degree for a third of the debt and walk away with the same degree. You want little to no debt that you can pay off quickly? 👏 Make 👏 Good 👏 Financial 👏 Decisions. Your stupid decision making and your bad financial choices aren't my problem. I shouldn't have to pay your debt when you dug the hole ten times deeper than it had to be.
@eternalvigilance56973 жыл бұрын
@@Frame_Late That isn't what they want though. Most of them really just want the "college experience" and the degree is just an afterthought or bonus.
@tmatt19993 жыл бұрын
@@chinashorts1491 If you are a US resident then any branch of the US armed forces will work. It also helps if you are a STEM major because if you like money you better learn to like math and science.
@davidbognacki86063 жыл бұрын
High school education, 4 years military service, 25 years in the fire service, 49 years old and zero debt. hard work pays off in the end!
@bryanitza-chulopez16583 жыл бұрын
Based gen Xer. Kudos to you sir.
@philk95013 жыл бұрын
"Hard work" is "offensive" to the woke
@btrav6673 жыл бұрын
@B Mac ok, you can fight your own wars, do emergency medical, and life-saving work on your own family and extinguish fires in your home and vehicles.....patrol your neighborhood at 3:00 am for free on your off hours. I think it's reasonable to pay taxes for military, police, fire, and primary education. Those jobs should pay fair wages at taxpayer expense. After that, I'm sure we would agree that a LIMITED (very limited) government is a reasonable proposition.
@brianwright95143 жыл бұрын
Zero debt is about as close as we'll ever get to freedom.
@brianwright95143 жыл бұрын
@B Mac That's about the most ignorant opinion I've ever heard. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
@tomphan76073 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone says government should pay for something, it actually means taxpayers should pay. Because it's taxpayers that fund government. When students think their debt should be forgiven, what they want is for someone else to pay for their education.
@benjaminhoward83303 жыл бұрын
These people talking about their debt act like they were forced into taking out those loans on useless degrees. I went to a cheaper school, and worked part time while I was in classes. Now I have an engineering degree and I'm set to be debt free 5 years out from graduation.
@brpadington3 жыл бұрын
You picked a real degree. These kids have lesbian dance degrees.
@trustme76603 жыл бұрын
I picked up a trade it’s cheaper an universal. Best decision I ever made
@jessicaxhanning21113 жыл бұрын
The issue is that at the age of 18 kids have no idea how these loans work, or enough about th real world to choose a profitable career...Most of the time the loans come with Grant's,and it's hard to understand what you actually have to pay back to the government. I agree that kids need to be paying them back. My husband and I just finished paying ours off. But, the government needs to quit giving out loans to kids who have no idea the burden they are obtaining. We paid back almost 150 grand for our degrees, combined... and we dont even use them and probably never will
@DerAlleinTiger3 жыл бұрын
While I don't disagree with Stossel at all on this one, or you in fact (I chose a not-for-profit online school to get my degree and got away with a fraction of the debt they did), I have to play a little devil's advocate and say I can sympathize with them maybe feeling like they've been tricked and pigeon-holed into this debt. That's not entirely accurate, but I would definitely say that in most cases the adults in their lives failed them throughout school, and it was that failure that drove them into the debt. I work at my old high school right now as an in-between job (planning to get into something better this Summer) and the college propaganda is just everywhere. It's a really good school, especially for a public school, but because it gets very high performance out of the students it winds up falling into the trap of pushing all of them to college. They have what's called a "College GO week." If the name is pretty self-explanatory. It's a week where the whole faculty espouses the 'wonders' of college life and the importance of getting a degree. Of course do we have a "College DON'T GO week?" Yeah, no. Of course not. Is there a "Trades week?" Nope. It's all about college, and most of the parents are in on it too. We're demanding 16- and 17-year-olds to decide what they want to do for the rest of their lives and make a massive, long-term financial investment in that before they even graduate high school. Not only that, we - the adults in their lives - are making it out as if college is absolutely required, as if the bachelor's degree is the new high school degree (which winds up only devaluing it even more, including our own). It's kind of fucked up. So you and I might sit back and say "You should have picked a cheaper and better school like us, you idiots. You should have gone online. You should have worked more on the side. You should have, should have, should have..." At some point *WE* should maybe stop and say "Well, who was supposed to tell them all that and why didn't they?" Again, I don't disagree with your sentiment, and I don't disagree with Stossel. I do, however, think that maybe we're putting too much blame on the students for being ignorant and entitled and not enough on the teachers and parents who let them be ignorant and made them entitled. Let's not even get started on their degree choices, which I may not be in much of a position to talk with a freaking English degree, but again I'd point to the adults in their lives who didn't say "What the hell is that? No, you aren't going to get anywhere with that."
@gl49893 жыл бұрын
Not everyone can complete an engineering degree and you know that
@chessmarin1023 жыл бұрын
I'm a 19, female and a Norwegian electrician trainee and it's absolutely great. I save lots of money every month, and the further I get into my apprenticeship, the more I will earn. My husband and I are renting a cute little place together, and we will probably get our own house in three to four years. I basically get paid to get educated, and I make a contribution to the workforce.
@shahvezbuttar1603 жыл бұрын
What is it like to be an electrician in Norway?
@cookieslalala58473 жыл бұрын
What's your salary?
@jonavoll46513 жыл бұрын
@@MrMelkorn cooperated is a mild word, Germany just invaded them as they did with every other state during ww 2
@TheDevilslayer1013 жыл бұрын
@@MrMelkorn that feeling when Americans are so busy looking for an excuse as to why they can't follow the lead of other countries that they just blame the Nazis as the reason why the other country is doing better than the USA. Just accept that America can do the same thing, you guys just choose not to because...... a lot of powerful people benefit from the current system. Also Norway got invaded in WW2, you dolt.
@jamesscott69173 жыл бұрын
@@MrMelkorn Cooperated with Germany in WW2? Are you crazy? The Norwegians resisted the Germans from day one. I don't know where you went to school, but you need to get your money back. You've been robbed.
@dunny22103 жыл бұрын
I am a minority and a son of an immigrant family, who had 200K plus in student loan for my higher education degrees. My student loan was completely paid off within 5 years of graduation. It took some sacrifices such as being frugal for the last few years, working hard, etc. I am proud that I did it.
@matraser32013 жыл бұрын
And it is something to be proud of, sad that it is less common now
@4566Iggy3 жыл бұрын
Legend.
@slydoorkeeper47833 жыл бұрын
Good on you, we need more people like you in this world.
@michaelperez815833 жыл бұрын
You should absolutely be proud of that! I’m a first generation as well, with hard work and self-sacrifice you set the stage for yourself
@judsonkr3 жыл бұрын
We are proud of you as well.
@petewilson231414 күн бұрын
Make 'em PAY!!
@johnnyjohnson13263 жыл бұрын
My son turned down several colleges and his dream of being an Army Ranger to learn to weld. COULDN'T BE PROUDER!
@kofiofosu90513 жыл бұрын
He’s smart and he learned well from you
@johnnyjohnson13263 жыл бұрын
@@kofiofosu9051 I tried lol as long as he grows into a good and honourable man I'm straight.
@adr3ns3 жыл бұрын
@Spudz Mckenzie patriots don't serve traitors
@adr3ns3 жыл бұрын
@Spudz Mckenzie yea, we're drowning in freedom... ya did a great job with those domestic enemies. Way to keep the oath. I here if you're really good the gov will let you out of the house to celebrate those freedoms this 4th of July. 🙄🙄
@talkshow51003 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!
@iamopposed3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that American schools are taking away shop class. It was and still is my favorite subject in school.
@colonelpabs59763 жыл бұрын
There hasn't been any shop class in the past 20 years. At least where I live at.
@vectoreyes3 жыл бұрын
Shop class teaches students how to use their hands to build, repair, etc. which are valuable life skills in my opinion. Those classes were my favorite as well and to this day I still have things in my house that I built in H.S. shop classes.
@Jim26D3 жыл бұрын
Wood is racilist
@Hideaki28523 жыл бұрын
Same, I did small engines and welding. Both are valuable skills that pay a living wage. I was one of the teenagers that had no need for fast food.
@stacyteal62213 жыл бұрын
Texas is trying to keep it in school but I have a friends in Virginia that said that no schools in middle or high school will offer shop, home economics, or anything trade job experiences
@StubbornMomDotCom3 жыл бұрын
Stossel, the one adult in media from my childhood who hasn’t lost his mind to the woke mob.
@SirManfly3 жыл бұрын
ya that's about it because the mainstream media and politicians have long since lost theirs !!
@ianbryant3 жыл бұрын
and mike rowe
@benjamindixon48253 жыл бұрын
Thats why hes not on big network anymore. Not a tool. Keep em coming John!!!
@AcesnEights6983 жыл бұрын
Seriously.
@thegreatbamboozler48373 жыл бұрын
If you got $180k in student loan debt and can't find a job I instinctively ask, "What worthless program was your degree in?"
@viperlux2 жыл бұрын
I took loans for college. I also went to community college and state schools. Not very much debt and it was easy to pay off. I'm so shocked that ppl are 180k in debt and didn't even major in STEM. So foolish.
@poku62103 жыл бұрын
All I see are students that know they're going to make no money with their gender studies degree and don't want to pay what they consciously signed up for!
@Objective-Observer3 жыл бұрын
Not Quite Accurate. The Big Villain in all of this mess are the Universities. THEY DON'T tell kids this Fluff Degree has ZERO jobs opportunities. They let their Professors develope these fluff degrees and ENCOURAGE students to take them! WHY? BECAUSE THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE ZERO ACCOUNTABLITY FOR SELLING SNAKE OIL DEGREES. When Jimmy Carter initiated the Government Backed student loans, colleges increased their fees exponentially! They knew this was their Goose who laid Golden Eggs. They don't have to counsel students that you need to take classes that offer some jobs skills so you can pay off this debt. Nope. They are the Bartender at a four year long frat party, who never has to take the keys from the drunk drivers. They get to sell as much as they can con the student into buying, never worrying how that kid will pay the bill. At this point, we need to FORCE THE UNIVERSITIES TO CARRY THAT DEBT, AND NOT BANKS. We do that, and admission requirements will go so high, that only the top echelon of students could get in. Which is how it should be.
@zetamangads3 жыл бұрын
Not only many of these SLACKTIVIST are in those major they preach either on Twitter or in the streets for gender Equity not Equality.
@pedrosilvaferreira25623 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@LAHCAH3 жыл бұрын
@@Objective-Observer Agree but the internet, and before that libraries, exist where young adults could look up their own info on valuable degrees that way no one can sell any snake oil except to the uninformed.
@bigb92573 жыл бұрын
@@LAHCAH Right on. I see three issues. Where are the parents on this or are they as clueless on what jobs are in demand which pay well. Our gov't is even more of an issue. No matter what, they'll loan you the money. This University takes advantage of this and increase tuition. I don't understand the thought process where if you borrow money, you have to pay it back. It's a common sense and if you feel it''s too much money that you can't pay it back, don't borrow the money. Common sense, but I'm seeing more people that does not have common sense. 3rd is accountability. own up and if you made a contract to borrow money where you have to pay it back, own up to your commitment.
@whaleshrimp1113 жыл бұрын
I decided against getting a 4 year degree and am glad I did. 50 years later I worked at things I was interested in and excelled because of that. I didn't spend 1 day working in an office. I spent 35 years as a white water river guide and scuba dive master around the world. Now retired I have money in the bank, am debt free and a happy guy.
@PierceMD3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something where I live, in British Columbia Canada
@ipenguin39183 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Yuo were ahead of the curve.
@gadflyofhumanity_68473 жыл бұрын
ok BOOMER
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
I didn’t go to college I didn’t even Finnish high school (I ended up in prison). I managed to find a labouring job on a building site and one of the painters and decorator’s took a liking to me and gave me an apprenticeship. I qualified on my 20th Birthday. After 18 months my boss suggested I start working for myself and he would give me the jobs he was to busy to do. My business took off and I had to take on some staff. I retired a couple of years ago on my 45th birthday and now my 2 sons run the business and they now have 23 members of staff.
@williamlien82913 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing! I’ve heard how difficult it can be to get a job after getting out of prison. It’s great to hear you were able to be successful and start your own family business.
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
@@williamlien8291 Thankyou William. I got a lot of job rejections before somebody would give me a chance so when i was hiring i gave an ex con a chance and he's one of the best workers you could ever wish for. He was so happy i gave him a chance he worked his balls off. Theres 6 ex con's work for my boys now and they are all good workers they had just never been given a chance. Thats how they ended up in prison in the 1st place because they had no qualifications and no one would give them a chance so they turned to crime to survive.
@amandahuginkiss409810 күн бұрын
I know because you don't know how to spell.
@brownrich8 ай бұрын
NOTHING IS FOR FREE!!!
@luisthekingjaime942 ай бұрын
Nothing
@JaySheer3 жыл бұрын
Getting a college degree doesn't mean they learned how to be adults. They are still expecting mommy and daddy, or you, to pay for their bills.
@trustme76603 жыл бұрын
There not taught how to be adults. There taught everything will be easy just go for it
@luongthanh1053 жыл бұрын
Those adults should march for lower cost, if i was them i would asked government: how dare you let those educators rig the price".
@mojoschmee93203 жыл бұрын
To the contrary, given today's climate on campuses across America, they're learning how to avoid being adults...
@alidaraie3 жыл бұрын
Getting a college degree in fact is and attempt to postpone their adulthood for at least another 4 years
@YHauz-co3 жыл бұрын
1. Similar transfer is evident in “green economy” 2. Liberal education in US colleges is useless to society. Reverse is true, MBA’s keep ruining and outsourcing American factories
@fsedillo233 жыл бұрын
Best quote I heard in a long time!!! “Everyone wants a corner office but nobody knows how to build the corner office”. God bless Mike Rowe
@adysc743 жыл бұрын
indeed, this remember me about idiots don't knowing to open a can 🤣
@tumult043 жыл бұрын
I found two sources saying over 7 million Americans know how to.
@poku62103 жыл бұрын
Those that took any degree ending with "studies" should've been more realistic.
@ledzeppelin12123 жыл бұрын
Some of my friends started out studying "Engineering studies" before choosing an engineering degree by junior year. They make good money. But yeah, I know what you mean. Gender studies, Native American studies, African studies--totally useless!
@2343r-b9f3 жыл бұрын
they are realistic about you paying for that
@ToddKeck983 жыл бұрын
@@ledzeppelin1212 The West needs gender studies as much as a fish needs a bicycle.
@gl49893 жыл бұрын
@@ledzeppelin1212 i wouldn't say they are useless, the market is just so small for them
@kfoster36163 жыл бұрын
@@gl4989 thus useless and costly
@throwaway6923 жыл бұрын
I remember showing up as a freshman to college. I was a physics major. On our orientation day the chair of the dept addressed us and said "there are many majors you can take at this school and still party hard while maintaining a respectable GPA". He got this totally evil look on his face and followed that up with "this is not one of them. I have change of major forms right here".
@herkload10 ай бұрын
So, did you full send it or change major?
@MrDlt1233 жыл бұрын
I have several degrees and my daughter asked me after HS graduation if I'd be upset if she didnt go to college. I had never even pushed her to go to college, but all of her friends were going to college, so she just assumed I wanted that for her too. What she hadnt remembered was that I didnt begin college until I was in my 30s, and had been in the military for 15 years before cracking a book. I simply told her that it was her life, and that there are many options that dont involve a degree. She ended up going to school to become a hairdresser and she loves her job. That is far more important than having paper hanging on the wall, and she has NO student loans. Plus, I get free haircuts. ;)
@virus20033 жыл бұрын
You sound like a good papa. Much love, homie.
@brianpineda99823 жыл бұрын
Your daughter has the ability to make people feel good about themselves.
@garysarratt13 жыл бұрын
“Several”, do you know how many? Several sounds pretty good, I guess.
@helsgarden44713 жыл бұрын
completely agree! parents are pressuring kids into careers they are not interested in and are not "naturally" good at. hence you have unhappy people. i encouraged my son to get a degree in what HE IS NATURALLY good at. he has been working in that line of work ever since. he is self employed - is happy - makes his own hours and because i taught him about finances and credit he has no debt whatsoever. he also can repair anything and everything from motherboards to fridges and cars. part of the problem is PARENTS NOT PARENTING ! we teach our kids how to talk - how to walk - how to eat even - but most parents forget to teach their kids about money!
@kurtzimmerman16373 жыл бұрын
gotta love mike rowe. this guy has scholarships set up just for people interested in the skilled trades. thanks mike!
@joedoomsdaypio43743 жыл бұрын
How do I sign up?
@kurtzimmerman16373 жыл бұрын
@@joedoomsdaypio4374 mikeroweworks foundation
@kurtzimmerman16373 жыл бұрын
@@joedoomsdaypio4374 go to mike rowe works foundation and look
@watchandjewelryloft47133 жыл бұрын
I'm a self employed sole provider. I can't even imagine not only NOT PAYING my debts, but demanding someone else pay it. Protest about it. And demonize the people that don't want to pay it. I just can't even fathom this.
@Zach-ju5vi3 жыл бұрын
Those people burning their debt papers should be put in jail.
@workisfun...24383 жыл бұрын
I second and mirror your comment.
@AN71H3RO3 жыл бұрын
Probably because you're a decent person and not an insane narcissist.🤔
@thegreenwave67413 жыл бұрын
It's called communism and thievery.
@ryanscottnix3 жыл бұрын
That's because you're awesome.
@petersclafani43707 күн бұрын
This is immoral. These ppl are ging to pay the price in the end. You think God will forget your actions.
@kingofthorns2033 жыл бұрын
There can’t be a corner office if no one knows how to build it. What a quote!
@carmenlajoie27193 жыл бұрын
Apprentiships + Trade schools are in Colleges.
@jamesscott69173 жыл бұрын
@@carmenlajoie2719 Not always. No. Join the Army and go into the Engineers. Take an apprenticeship with a union. There's a MILLION ways to get technical training without involving a college. Many companies prefer to teach apprentices so that they learn to do things their way. The military is THE BEST way to learn a trade. You get PAID to learn a new trade.
@carmenlajoie27193 жыл бұрын
Getting free education in the military should not be the only way, thats how they entice everyone. When nothing else exists
@jamesscott69173 жыл бұрын
@@carmenlajoie2719 English is clearly not your first language. Let me show you the difference; BEST - meaning superior or most desirable. ONLY - meaning without any other option. I used BEST. So, read this again, "The military is THE BEST way to learn a trade." Do you see the difference, yet?
@jayberlin32653 жыл бұрын
@@carmenlajoie2719 honey u need stop your bs talk . l was in the army for 12 year learn a trade , in now lm doing same trade when l was in the army , military pay u do a trade l was in waster treatment specialty now working with la water and power
@gdobie1west9883 жыл бұрын
Thank you John Stossel and Mike Rowe for your continued words of wisdom.
@dominick2533 жыл бұрын
All of us in the trades laugh about this about this every day. We make double what a college graduate would make and yet they look down on us. That's cool with us 😊☺️
@shirw3 жыл бұрын
Ask a bank teller who has money in their accounts... the guys who come in dirty!!
@dartdodge693 жыл бұрын
I did a trade as well. I make 3 times what my wife makes with her Bachelors degree.
@joe-zj8js3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we make triple. I love being able to spend and not dent my finances. I had a leak in front of a business and guy was walking with his 12/13 yr old son and i could hear him say "see that? That's why you go to college." I thought i probably make more than your dad and it didn't take 20 years to make almost 6 figures...plus plumbers can all benchpress their cars lol
@adamnowacki24913 жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree with you that trades make good money if done right, but most degrees at a university make more than tradesman do? I’m just looking up the stats on it and a person in finance, engineering, etc. make more than a tradesman.
@Bittzen3 жыл бұрын
@@adamnowacki2491 the thing is, for those professions requiring degrees, the jobs are in lower supply and the people need to get much more experience and certification to reach the level of pay you see them making statistically. Most with those degrees get in for less than a year and quit cuz they can't handle it. Trade jobs are more plentiful, especially right now, and easier to start your own trade practice, too. Certifications are cheaper and faster too. That's why trades are better for most people when schools aren't indoctrinating them to go to college.
@jimmyjones28968 күн бұрын
Education IS free. Libraries exist from every small town to every large city.
@oskar66073 жыл бұрын
Here in Sweden skilled tradesmen are higly respected. Not because university is expensive (it’s free) but because thry are seen as key to our nation’s industrial development and technical functioning.
@TSemasFl3 жыл бұрын
That's because Swedes have common sense. Something rarely seen in the USA
@benrankin31933 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Sweden is a wonderful country!
@roguewasbanned47463 жыл бұрын
@@TSemasFl debatable
@roguewasbanned47463 жыл бұрын
Yeah but have you taken gender studies classes? Purple hair and piercings included!
@bender92222222223 жыл бұрын
We know nothing about that. The people who are instrumental to our country's success, manufacturing, service industry retail are treated like human garbage lol.
@jasminegenovesi3 жыл бұрын
Why aren't people talking about why it's so expensive for college.
@MOMOFCJ63 жыл бұрын
Taxes they LOVE TAXES
@insanemang99833 жыл бұрын
Because it gets shutdown fast before it can spread. The media won't cover it because they're paid to not talk about it...as well as many other things.
@MOMOFCJ63 жыл бұрын
@@insanemang9983 bro taxes without representation
@dbergerac96323 жыл бұрын
Easy access to loans drove up college costs. Now all of us are expected to pay for the four year party time of the few.
@catfish420503 жыл бұрын
It's expensive because it can be, ignorant ass people agree to pay it every day
@lorrained49283 жыл бұрын
My husband is a plumber, no college degree. Didn't have dinner with him tonight, he's out on an emergency call. That's an essential employee. He makes way more than I ever did with my degree.
@kaberigomes21173 жыл бұрын
What degree do you have? Did you consider the the job opportunity the degree will grant you before pursuing it? How much student loan did you have to take? Did you consider how much time it would take for you to do a job to pay it back, (theoretically paying 100% of your salary)?
@anavrinhsub60813 жыл бұрын
@@kaberigomes2117 I think that’s her point
@chiragnaik34363 жыл бұрын
Is your husband Johnny Sinns?
@lisapalmeno44883 жыл бұрын
As did my nonunion owner-operator dad who mortgaged the house to become self-employed. He bought my cars, paid the insurance, helped me go overseas for school, and more. I paid for the bulk of my education beyond scholarships. I know this is Mother's Day, but I'll never forget my dad for all he did for me. If I could go back, I'd have paid it ALL myself, instead of his working like a dog.
@TSemasFl3 жыл бұрын
Bet he's making way more than people with degree's. Being a plumber is the highest pay for the least amount of knowledge. Only three things you need to know to be a plumber. Hot's on the left, shit flows down hill and payday's on Friday.
@zeus1369883 жыл бұрын
"If everybody has a degree, nobody has a degree." -Me A degree used to mean something. A small percentage of individuals would pursue them in order to distinguish themselves from the rest of the herd. Everyone else would join the regular old workforce. Then, everyone was sold a lie that you NEEDED an expensive degree to be successful. Now, everyone is equal again because everyone has a degree and you can't separate yourself from the next person. It has also had the unintended consequence of breeding generations of self-important snots. Most of these people graduate with some worthless degree and they prance around like they are some sort of intellectual. Meanwhile, they incur massive debt that they'll be paying off for decades. How bright do you think you are when you just got conned into $100k+ debt for a lesbian interpretive dance degree?
@claeseriksson20943 жыл бұрын
Im swedish and here school is free but generally it only allaws smart people to reach the top. I beliave that if smart people are educated and given opportunities society will move forward
@joegrayii3 жыл бұрын
I knew something was wrong when my Spanish teacher came from Spain to get we doctorate, because it’s free public college. And when everyone has a degree, it becomes the norm. To differentiate, you need to go to some place else or get yet another degree
@treymccain81643 жыл бұрын
I graduated from college 10 years ago with a BA in Psychology. I attended school on a scholarship to run XC and Track. At the time I wasn't thinking about the debt I was taking on. I just saw the opportunity to compete for another 4 years. I owe a little over $40k I haven't made many payments on. At first I was angry I didn't get a good job right out of school. After a few years I finally did some introspection and came to the conclusion I put myself in a hole when I didn't take full advantage of my opportunities with a partially paid for education. I didn't party but I wasn't disciplined with my education either. My debt is my problem to figure out. People who made more responsible decisions should not be held responsible for my irresponsible decisions.
@LuisLascanoValarezo3 жыл бұрын
Bruh. BA and Psychology. That explains it all
@treymccain81643 жыл бұрын
@@LuisLascanoValarezo I don't disagree
@jeangardino56993 жыл бұрын
Thank you for affirming your personal responsibility for your debt. I hope you pay it off quickly. It is an awesome feeling of accomplishment to make that last payment. Good luck 🍀
@leechurchill19653 жыл бұрын
Good on you for owning up. And Psychology is actually a lucrative career. Could always start your own practice.
@dumyjobby3 жыл бұрын
Hi Trey, wish you to do well.
@durasal813 жыл бұрын
Thought of the day...If all these students want free education, why don’t they ask all these educational institute professors teach Pro Bono? 🤔Now I can support that approach!!
@keiththomas31413 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea.
@aaronsondag83473 жыл бұрын
It isn't the professors that cost an arm and a leg, except at the ivy league schools, it's all the administrators that they have and their assistants. You have some schools where the assistant of the assistant get paid 6 figures!
@williamesterhuizen43013 жыл бұрын
I live in Africa, where people are made to believe that a degree is the ticket to a better life. I personally know many people who spend a lot of money to get these degrees and diplomas, only to still be working as security guards or pump attendants. There are many many colleges and universities that are taking advantage of the people’s hopes for a better life by luring them into a study program. In the end, the college makes their money, while the poor student sits with a piece of paper that’s worth nothing in the real world.
@TSemasFl3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@eriangelino78003 жыл бұрын
What Africans need is vocational traininh, not a college degree.
@Slyrider7773 жыл бұрын
Its what you do with what you have end of story, these people in blue collar jobs work hard, people in school work hard for 4 years (give or take) then don't work hard after thinking a degree gets them everything. You gotta get the experience either way and work hard either way
@kellikelli44133 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately timing is everything and we don't have a crystal ball... I know people who got a great paying job because of a college degree that didn't have anything to do with the type of employment they ending up IN. College debt still not paid off... I know people who make great money without a college degree or that debt... I know people with a college degree and no job. But college debt... Moral of the story ~ life is a crap-shoot. BUT you're ahead of the game if you're without that college debt‼️
@Pan_Z3 жыл бұрын
"You worked hard, organised your priorities, and followed a feasible plan? Good! Now pay up for the people that didn't." -- Government
@JH-oh1in3 жыл бұрын
College is becoming less about education and more about indoctrination. Take the red pill and look beyond the box.
@lordshell3 жыл бұрын
The demonization of trade schools was well in swing when I was a kid back in the seventies. I still remember it.
@Hosz6883 жыл бұрын
It's because some nerd school administrator is still pissed that a guy from shop class stole his girlfriend 20 years ago.
@MiloPerrotti3 жыл бұрын
In the 80's/90's also. I did go to tech college and have a career as a CNC programmer. I think overall total cost was less than $25,000, including, tuition, books, tools, and partial living expenses for just under 2 years.
@TheFoolintherainn3 жыл бұрын
That was the Union taking control of jobs in trucking, construction & trades. Suddenly you had to pay more money and go to school to get those certifications. And the union makes money and controls the industry that way. In the '70s and 80s, the unions were powerhouses. Now those powerhouse unions have shifted to teachers and nurses education and health industries. In the late 89d, there was a big deal coming out against internships, apprenticeships claiming they were essentially slave labor? That was the union trying to get rid of those types of positions. It worked - they said they wanted to tax corporations that used interns. Then somehow Hollywood got involved. - you might also know it's very difficult to volunteer at your town library, public schools.. cuz they want those to be all paid Union positions. So this type of control over jobs is all around you, it's the same source. They'll keep an elementary school library closed in order to declare a budget emergency with the state, instead of allowing parents to volunteer - happened in my school district. My kids third grade teacher said "if every family in the district would donate $10, then we could open your library again!" 😃 So all the kids came home asking for 10 bucks or jobs to earn 10 bucks I think that's child abuse 🙄 So this is one piece of a puzzle in a big scheme.. no interns, unpaid volunteers in any municipal organization... Unless you're picking up trash on Earth Day, of course It even affected prisons.. they did not want prisoners to get skills in jail - they wanted them to come out and pay for it. Thru govt subsidies. So instead of using their time in jail to learn a skill, they put them in counseling and they want them to pay for it when they get out. Yep. I kid you not. If the union/fed govt can't control the jobs, in right to work states, for example? They can control who gets certifications. And the government subsidized that education - instead of giving it to students in high school. And then colleges and universities caught on to that racket. You got to go to them for the certification, you have to pay off those college loans for a couple of decades alongside paying your union dues.. look carefully! Suddenly community colleges became outrageously expensive. They were along the lines of trade schools in female oriented careers... legal secretary, billing & accounting, administrative jobs, certified nursing assistant, phlebotomist, lab tech, X-ray tech, medical administration, dog groomer.. those suddenly became expensive certifications also. And those were more often female jobs. A decade after they let females into education and work - they put up another barrier. That's a feminazi for ya! This racket REALLY took off with women entering the workforce and needing training. Also, under the Clinton administration the Republican house in Senate put welfare reform through - you could get food stamps for 5 years total - they pushed people into the workforce through these types of government subsidized trade school programs. They cut child support requirements, even though it doesn't look like it - and forced women out into the workforce. They wanted control - even running daycares requires ridiculously expensive education and certification And the government sends social workers into private daycares to check on your kids... Your pediatrician is a narc for the government controlling their medical care, what medicine is they have to take there's no escaping. ( I did that for a living a few years. Til I couldn't take it anymore) Cutting hair, doing nails? They are now trade school industries where you pay for that certification through a subsidized government program. Trade school education has been doing that scheme longer than liberal colleges That's the time when public education shifted - diminished in quality, testing rates, they started putting social workers in schools To get freshman high school English I took in the ,70s? You now have to go to college. They got us from all angles at this point - it started with courts. - Probate, Family Courts & public education system became Lib for-profit industries. In the '70s and '80s, when I worked in the legal industry, law schools exploded on the east and west coast in Liberal areas -handing out liberal law degrees like Halloween candy. Union tire more lawyers straight out of these law schools than anybody. now they have control, and a few years ago started closing down law schools to restrict access to Justice. Health, education, family, trade schools that control your employment.. they pretty much got us from all angles now Family courts are run behind closed doors, sealed records, no rules of evidence. Anything that involves "education.... women and children," is the same as beaten puppies they know that taxpayers and idiots with more tax dollars than sense, will throw money at it and not bother to audit. Throughout this argument about college debt - very rarely do I see anyone ask why it's so expensive to begin with? You don't see many Republicans conservatives on school boards, working as teachers, daycare, social workers, public defenders, And it used to be many of those trucking, union, trade jobs were Democrat unions ... cuz Libs know where the money is. Controlling the masses where prying eyes are not, using subjective emotional issues, like puppies, babies, & education... because nobody really cares. But they know they should. So they sign off on stupid budgets, don't AUDIT Education, women, children, beaten puppies...
@thebestblainejohnson3 жыл бұрын
I was told in the 1980s that my "trade school" bachelor's degree was worthless. Lucky for me, I guess, that school was one of the most respected outside of "universities" within its industry.
@jaydeecee16433 жыл бұрын
People are actually jealous of those who have a skill.
@stu453 жыл бұрын
All the dislikes will be woke college goers who are unemployed.
@PrinceRevolver2 ай бұрын
Trade, trade, trade school.
@benamini57013 жыл бұрын
“Since this is an era when many people are concerned about 'fairness' and 'social justice,' what is your 'fair share' of what someone else has worked for?” Thomas Sowell
@spikegilfer19973 жыл бұрын
Based Sowell does it again. Ninety years of wisdom at work.
@vincentortega42843 жыл бұрын
Nothing is fair
@catherinesyme9013 жыл бұрын
❤️
@luismiguel53913 жыл бұрын
"Should be free" is the polite way of saying "others should pay"
@mrrandom12653 жыл бұрын
I'm a conservative but most people fail to realize that free education is not socialism, it's an investment. The more qualified people are, the richer the country gets. I'm not talking about useless degrees here, I'm talking about real education (STEM). Charging 50k for a a degree is not capitalism, it's a scam. You can be a conservative and still have some common sense. Don't let a multimillionaire who cares more about Israel than the US tell you that you should bankrupt your entire family to give a decent future to your kids because this is BS.
@luismiguel53913 жыл бұрын
@@mrrandom1265 It's not free education, is paid for others. If it's an investment as you say, then why I don't have the right to choose not to invest? There are several reasons to choose not to: First of all, I don't agree with the statement of "the more qualified people the richer everybody". Having an american degree doesn't mean you are going to make everyone else richer nor that it would give you a better future. People on the video are a living proof of that. And even if it does, I don't have to live my life with the group in my mind. Let college be "free", take the people that are getting out of college and make then work almost for free the first years. As they accepted the deal with the government in the first place, as long as they don't get me involve, I don't have a problem with it as a libertarian. Anyway, if the goal is to have as much qualified people as possible with the less amount of money "invest", then you wouldn't want to pay for US college for US kids. To maximize the amount of qualified people what we need to do is to pay for the education of people in poor countries, like Israel, in their own educational institutions. You are right in something: 50k is a scam. Yes it is. US college is so expensive not because government doesn't pay for it, but because people are stupid. There are several rankings that show which universities are better, and in all of those, US ones are on the lead. This is because what the rankings measure is the amount of papers publish, which is not related in any way to offering a better education. To be on the top, they spent a shit-ton of money in investigation, and the students pay for it. They get to be on top, then everyone in the world wants to travel aboard to study on this universities, this means that the demand grows, and then the prices scalate accordingly. I don't have to pay for it, because others think it's a good idea. Then is the common problem: why do I have to pay for an education I couldn't have or I didn't want.
@allsek74333 жыл бұрын
Yes because giving israhell free billions of us dollars and giving greedy military corporations like lockheed and boeing trillions of dollars to make overpriced stealth aircraft isn't, just face it if we stopped giving "foreign aid" and actually invested that money into our people America would work out better, besides the corporations pay the taxes not the people.
@luismiguel53913 жыл бұрын
@@allsek7433 I can agree on that, if government is going to steal from us, better put it to a good use instead of making war contractors rich. But It'll be even better if government don't spend our money nor on war, nor on healthcare, nor on education ...
@JohnDoe-vw4zf3 жыл бұрын
@@luismiguel5391 Why would it be better if the government didn't invest in healthcare and education for it's people?
@Voidwatcher3 жыл бұрын
I'm a professional chef. I have nearly two decades of experience now. Whatever debts I have from studies have long since been paid off. I work hard, REALLY hard. I will NEVER pay for these entitled children. I made my own future with my own two hands and a passion for cooking.
@WhyZ_Guy3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday "Read my lips, I'll forgive 10K of your college debt" Today "Come on man" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@longtyler483 жыл бұрын
He got hit with that Truantinternationapressure
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
They get free education up until 18 so if they want more why should the taxpayer have to pay for them they’ve already paid for 13 years of education; for them.
@SimonASNG3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I had a friend make this actual argument. Government has paid for 13 years, they can afford 4 more? I pointed out that public school was a basic set of classes given at a public institution. Would they be willing to have the government provide a "high-school-like" institution with a limited pallet of publicly useful degrees for free? Nope, they want the private universities with all the frills and unlimited choices of useless degrees.
@Eddie-ym1vq3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the 60's and 70's when high school guidance counselors use to say "College isn't for everyone" . It's true you don't need a degree in French poetry or lesbian dance theory to say Hi welcome to Starbucks can I take your order because that's what those degrees are worthless
@rickzheng24573 жыл бұрын
Hey,...... French has some uses LMAO.
@Toroidal_Vortex3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm all for "follow your dreams", but don't be delusional about it. If your degree doesn't give you marketable skills or knowledge, skip it. Get a job, buy some books, and teach yourself in your "free time". At the end of the day, that's what you end up doing anyway (but at least you can avoid getting yourself into massive debt).
@rubenmejia9423 жыл бұрын
"Lesbian dance theory" Hahahahahaha
@conurman3 жыл бұрын
Right!!! Omg then they blame it on the education system and country when it’s their fault they chose a non benefiting career
@Eddie-ym1vq3 жыл бұрын
@@conurman You totally expressed what I said. They choose bullshit studies instead of a real degree
@normanwhite66773 жыл бұрын
There's an old joke that tells it all: A doctor has a leak in the toilet in the master bathroom and calls a plumber. The plumber arrives, examines the toilet, fixes it, and hands the doctor the bill. The doctor looks at it and says, "Hey, look, I'm a doctor and I don't make this much!" The plumber says, "Neither did I."
@pallmall73853 жыл бұрын
The punchline is that the plumber was a former doctor? Good one.
@sirwillypeckerson76743 жыл бұрын
@@pallmall7385 My first thought was actually that the plumber went to the doctor lol
@Thunder_Dome453 жыл бұрын
Was that the 3rd story bathroom or the 6th story? Doctors make more money than anybody on earth.
@Thunder_Dome453 жыл бұрын
@@letsgobrandon9435 he killed himself because he couldn't stand going from being a rich dude to prison. He we stupid and didn't notice we don't send celebrities or rich people to jail.
@Thunder_Dome453 жыл бұрын
@Whatever probably a few hundred. They probably billed the phone call, picking up the phone, talking into the phone, his expert thoughts, and writing down the prescription. Then probably $50 for the ink and the paper he used. Probably another $50 for the free fax he sent it to the pharmacy.
@insanogeddon10 ай бұрын
Narcissists on Narcotics
@SoloPilot63 жыл бұрын
One of my neighbors' business cards has his name, followed by "N.D.G.A" -- he says he got tired of people with "MBA" or "PhD" on their cards thinking that he was less intelligent than they are (when they were paying him over a hundred bucks an hour to design the electronics stuff that runs their offices or mansions). It stands for "No Degree, Good Anyway."
@danielsurvivor13723 жыл бұрын
Cool idea
@SpecialEDy3 жыл бұрын
I didn't finish my associates degree. I make ~$150k a year, albeit with overtime, as a mechanic. And I'm only 2.5 years into this career...
@hamansing7873 жыл бұрын
What type of mechanic ? What type of schooling ? I need to get my life on track.
@SpecialEDy3 жыл бұрын
@@hamansing787 Maintenance Mechanic for FritoLay. Im at a distribution center instead of manufacturing, so I work on conveyor belts, forklifts, and automated equipment. I probably only do actual work for 10%-25% of the day. They pay their forklift drivers and order pullers $22+ an hour if you need something that requires no experience. I was a forklift mechanic for 1.5 years before this, and a maintenance mechanic at another place before that. I used to be an order puller for 2 years at the first mechanic job but they moved me to maintenance for a year after that. Pro tip: if you get promoted at a job, your final title and pay is the only thing on your resume afterwards. So my resume makes it look like 3 years maintenance Mechanic at the first place, nowhere on a resume or application is there a place to specify that 2 of those years were order pulling...
@hamansing7873 жыл бұрын
@@SpecialEDy how did you learn to maintain conveyorbelts etc ? You had to attend school ?
@bossmodl3thalpoppa4843 жыл бұрын
BS
@metis30973 жыл бұрын
Do you mind if I ask which state you work in?
@FeignRaven3 жыл бұрын
I think JBP summed it up best. College students are angry when they realize after 4 years they're still at the bottom of the ladder.
@projectjt31493 жыл бұрын
In particular, those who didn't look for an internship DURING college
@alyupde93373 жыл бұрын
@@projectjt3149 not all jobs have the intern option.
@cowpercoles11943 жыл бұрын
Yep, and there are only a few job openings for the best of the best PhD candidates to teach in college, or do research. It's better if you have a degree that is in demand, like engineering, or a STEM field. However, your CRT, English Lit, Philosophy degree, etc is not great for the job market. There's intense competition over jobs (ie: the crumbs). Many of these people get jobs in college admin, want to change the world, and are angry, frustrated (understandably), but think they know better than everyone else, so they push their political ideology onto the school, which degrades the value of the degrees even further (teaching students what to think, instead of how to think). The colleges know they are diploma mills, and are cashing in on the students. To attract more, they fund unnecessary amenities at the college to make it "fun", but combined with the bloated administration salaries required to run these amenities, this jacks the price tag even higher. At some point, the bubble is going to burst, and the colleges are going to go out of business. Now some of these students want to tax everyone to get bailed out, proving that for all their smarts, they don't actually understand how the world outside the University works (ie: they're not as smart as they think they are).
@spencers41213 жыл бұрын
@AEGON VII Lets stop with that BS lie about every one taking liberal art degrees, Part of the problem have been colleges and frankly employers wanting that 4 year degree. Boomer parents telling there kids and grand kids to go to college, so you don't have to bust your ass all your life doing manual labor. There was a big push to get a degree, a big part tied to enriching the schools profits. Look at some of these colleges running multi million dollar sports, highest paid public employee in America college football coach. My bother has a engineer degree, that he has never used in 25 years. That degree did however open up management job for him. I know a guy working at Tractor Supply, with a electrical engineer degree. My niece just graduated with a biology degree, ended up on the line at the Toyota plant.
@ryankuypers18193 жыл бұрын
@@spencers4121 Not everyone is going to use their specific degrees for a specific job. Your brother likely was offered that position due to the combination of having the piece of paper and the underlying skill set. I doubt someone with a liberal arts degree would have been given the same opportunity. I have an undergraduate degree in engineering and didn't really use it until I turned 40, but it got me into interviews. Many people do well with liberal arts degrees because they are motivated and can think critically. STEM degrees are still of greater need and more useful. I'm sure there is more to the story with the guy at Tractor Supply or your niece. Choice, perhaps. The underlying problem is kids who can barely attain a B average in high school and test below average on the SAT/ACT still enter college. Societal expectations are responsible for this flawed thinking, but the individual needs to do some simple "back of the napkin" math to determine if the investment will be worth it.
@Litwinus3 жыл бұрын
We went through it in Poland, they closed welding schools, etc. and after a few years it became apparent that we did not have specialists
@erikkovacs30973 жыл бұрын
There was a Peter Schiff video from 2013 where he interviewed bartenders, garbage men, strippers and waiters/waitresses all in New Orleans on one night. They had an impressive array of degrees and an even more impressive array of student debt.
@loralubimaia27833 жыл бұрын
The real thing is , they knew the cost, they still bought into it. They should have to pay their debts.
@arthasmenethil22013 жыл бұрын
Someone told me something like this: "Society made me get in student debt because they demand people with college degrees".
@knowplay32583 жыл бұрын
I went to college. Engineering degree. I worked for over 20 years as an ASE Master Tech...a master mechanic. Yep...skilled labor. After that, I was a millwright. Again, skilled labor occupation. Why? I made more money and enjoyed the work exponentially more. Kids need to realize they can go to trade school or community college to learn skills that are highly sought after now and, as a result, very high paying. Millwrights, welders, underwater welders, machinists, Instrument specialists, and so on...
@bbbbbbb513 жыл бұрын
They're in high demand & the job itself isn't at risk of being automated anytime soon.
@user-bn7dg2km2d3 жыл бұрын
Yup our plumber makes bank, and can't get people to apprentice anymore because they choose to go to college instead. Smh
@zeroibis3 жыл бұрын
But I want to be an artist and you need to pay for it!
@narnia12333 жыл бұрын
@@zeroibis Even if you do want to go to college (though honestly I don’t know if you need to to be an artist, you might want to just look into teaching yourself online or something) you can pick a community college or something that’s less expensive. Choose to work part time while in school, etc. But I really recommend looking into not going to school for art. There’s like tons of online classes and stuff where you just pay 30 bucks to learn something. I think the main thing with art is literally starting now and practicing every day. Building up your own portfolio. Maybe posting your work online and marketing yourself. Going to expos and events to meet the people hiring and other artists. Taking on freelance work as soon as possible and doing a good job (being on time and with quality). Being an artist from what I’ve seen you basically are a self entrepreneur. So you have to really take ownership of your business. And your own education. And your own skill. If you’re not the type of person that practices your skill every day and is self driven (basically able to market yourself) I don’t know if that’s the best career choice.
@blkhemi39253 жыл бұрын
20 years ago, you could get a side job, pay for college, and graduate nearly debt free. Now, an 8 year engineering degree can be yours to the tune of $100,000. It can take an entire lifetime to pay that back, and even if you graduate, an engineers starting salary is less than $40k a year, and there's no guarantee of employment.
@JC-DC3 жыл бұрын
How about they just get rid of the fees and crazy interest and just pay the actual amount they borrowed.
@oldtimefarmboy6173 жыл бұрын
They act like someone stuck a gun to their heads and forced them to take out student loans. They are prime examples of people who went through grade schools being taught feelings and egos, rather than useful knowledge and critical thinking skills, and were taught that they are entitled to have without earning and responsibility for their actions.
@grimview3 жыл бұрын
It not that easy to avoid when companies can actively discriminate against non-degree holders. Yes, they can lie or go to a diploma mill. Most place don't care after 5 year or will stop checking. The closest to protection I can find is right to work laws that require a company to hire a person & give that person a certain about of time before joining a union. Make no mistake a degree or certification is a union card that once inside will make sure only people with union card are allowed to work there.
@thedude67123 жыл бұрын
@@grimview It's perfectly easy to avoid. If those companies which are actively discriminating against degree non-holders are giving out positions which earn enough money to pay those debts, then there's no issue. But if they're not giving out such positions, then the easy way to avoid the situation is to not get the degrees which are not paying for themselves. Alternate ways to avoid the situation are to be smarter about your college choices. Spend the first 2 years paying community college rates and come out with an associate's degree and an amount of employability with which to make the decision to matriculate and continue or not. Simple cost-benefit analysis which doesn't need a "make everyone else pay my debts" option.
@GrantAugustus13 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY RIGHT!!!! THAT IS WHAT A LOAN IS BORROWED MONEY IT MUST BE PAID BACK AND IF IT IS FORGIVEN THAT DEBT IS INCURRED TO SOMEONE ELSE!!!!
@spudreviews88973 жыл бұрын
I want to add that my husband, who is in his 40's, was told in highschool that you CAN'T be successful without college. Every teacher peddled this. Parents were told to push their kids to college. Would you have gone a different way? Or would you have trusted your GUIDANCE counselor?? What a ruse! College turned out to be a rip-off!! He has debt for no return.
@ih82r83 жыл бұрын
Right? Who told them they needed to be at Yale for their art appreciation degree instead of a community college?
@hankvinson59673 жыл бұрын
As a blue collar guy i endorse more workers like Chloe Hudson!
@Tyshkevich3 жыл бұрын
She's doing it right. That's for sure. And making 150k a year. If she's smart with her money too, then she'll never owe a penny to anyone in her life. Some of the bigger purchases in life she could save and buy with cash.
@tonyr67513 жыл бұрын
@@Tyshkevich That's what used to happen before easy credit was invented to steal your future.
@silverousleonidas57903 жыл бұрын
All I gotta ask. Who made them take the student loan?
@boredfangerrude3 жыл бұрын
Probably friends and family and teachers who pressured them to go to college.
@silverousleonidas57903 жыл бұрын
@@boredfangerrude Granted but wasnt it a big thing back in elementary school to not give in to pressure?
@boredfangerrude3 жыл бұрын
The ironic thing is that society is very hypocritical about that.
@RezaQin3 жыл бұрын
Parents usually pressure their kids into going to college, otherwise "they won't make anything of themselves."
@silverousleonidas57903 жыл бұрын
@@boredfangerrude It’s almost funny how you dont notice until your an adult.
@NewYorker83123 жыл бұрын
It's sad that college didn't teach them one of the most important lessons in life. Nothing is ever free in other words everything has some cost associated with it
@i12flytoday3 жыл бұрын
Well, we do have a member of congress that claims she has a degree in economics yet doesn't understand the difference between a tax deduction and a refundable tax credit.
@billyoung81183 жыл бұрын
@@i12flytoday Sooner or later Boston College will have to give her a cease and desist order. She's the absolute opposite of good advertising.
@joeyGalileoHotto3 жыл бұрын
@@i12flytoday economics is more theoretical than practical. Similar to how physics is a theory based form of engineering. You discuss theories of how economy/business should run, but you don't put the principles into practice.
@joesmith7013 жыл бұрын
@@billyoung8118 it's in a city and a college I expect most of the rhetoric to support AOC even if they know it's wrong because "woke"
@dmannevada59813 жыл бұрын
@@joeyGalileoHotto ...and colleges hand out MBA's to people who haven't mastered a business on the day they received that degree.