Working as a doctor in Australia: culture shocks, pay, work life balance

[@seannorford7083]

As an Australian I’m so proud that our healthcare system can attract too talent such as yourself, I hope you are your partner stay :)

[@orca21fernando]

I really appreciate you being so honest about your experiences in Australia including the positives and the negatives! Very very refreshing and eye opening! Thankyou!

[@denisemurphy3915]

Yes, overtime abuse exists without crazy bureaucracy because professionals are trusted to behave ethically. When they don't, it gets noticed, mostly by the Budget Committees of Departments, and then comes the "over time blow-out", but also by those from whom one might wish to obtain a glowing professional reference. They want to see good character, efficient time management, and not succumbing to overtime abuse "because everybody else does." Consultants also have private practices in 'private hospitals' where every penny is counted. Hope your next step might include a trainee position in beautiful Canada or NZ, but if it be the US ... good luck. Thank you for your contribution to the Aust health system in 2022.

[@Deniz-kl9jk]

Aussie doctor here, I can tell you that unfortunately overtime claiming experiences wildly differ state to state, and within states. For example in Victoria, nearly every major healthservice is currently facing class action lawsuits for unpaid unrostered overtime :/

[@tc88888888]

I'm a consultant now, my first week as an intern I worked 104 hours rostered. It was nuts. For the rest of the year I averaged 80 hours per week. But we weren't getting paid overtime back then, so only 38 hours paid and the rest were working for free. Totally toxic back then. Glad to hear that at least over time is paid now.

[@drsurinataneja]

😣

[@MT-sw8rf]

@tc88888888 omg!! Is it better as a consultant?

[@tc88888888]

@@MT-sw8rf yup

[@lucycrook-xt2de]

Overtime hasn’t been easy to claim on all hospitals/states - currently running class actions against almost all VIC hospitals for unpaid overtime - I think the other issue with surgery (in particular) is that the training program is so competitive so if you actually work your rostered hours or even claim all overtime, the perception is that it affects job prospects unfortunately - totally agree that the money isn’t worth it!!

[@pardogg]

I remember my wife watching one of your videos before, and I watched this one now. We're Canadians who came over to Australia ( I went to med school at usyd, a GP here now and the wife's in finance) Best of luck in your decision making. When I locumed a few years back it seemed all the UK docs enjoyed being here overall compared to back home. At the very least, you can't beat the weather!

[@jeremykothe2847]

Just be aware that the weather can be very different depending where you are. Australia isn't all sunshine. (Although even the wettest parts arguably still have "better weather" than many parts of the UK/Canada).

[@nuddleable]

Your honesty is refreshing. I appreciate that your views are in many ways the same as mine. At 71 I can look back on my life and say that I have lived an exciting and very interesting life without conforming to what was expected of me, but I have been, and remain happy, despite the ups and downs which are to be expected. To be succinct, the "journeys'' the thing'". Enjoy what you have and enjoy this great world while you can. On top of that this Aussie really enjoys your blogs!!!!!

[@Tech-49]

I got to Australia in 2001 and here we are 21 years later.

[@darrenmurray861]

Money isn’t everything, but let’s be honest, no one puts in all that hard graft for poor pay. As a trainee Biomedical Scientist I was studying, working and helping to cover the on-call service and I know this was still a fraction of what the junior docs were doing! Having done all that I do not regret the money I earn now, though it is my love for the job and the fact I’m doing a god ethical job that matters most. Keep up the good work you’re already doing and keep yourself fit and well.

[@WhhhhhhjuuuuuH]

I know it may seem soul crushing to wake up so early but from my experience doing night shifts the longer you are at work after sunrise the Harder it is to get rest. Getting to sleep at 5am VS 7am is a world of difference because you can actually keep your circadian rhythm more normal with blackout curtains and waking up in the afternoon for some sunlight.

[@arthurng0112]

Hey Surina, if ED appeals you because of hands on and variety of work and flexibility, you might want to look into Rural GP as well! They basically run the entire hospital in a rural community. They can do ED shift, Anaesthetic list, performing C-session and even surgery! They work-life balance is amazing too!

[@drsurinataneja]

Hmm it seems like a lot of responsibility but must be a very interesting job!

[@zee3e]

what I know about aus residencies are that: work hours are less and salary is better compared to us residencies, but it takes more years to finish. at the same time, attendings in aus earn much less and are taxed much more, so while us residents are barely paid a minimum wage for the hours spent they do get an insane pay increase once they become attendings which isnt the case in aus.

[@TravellingNowhereFast]

I got a partial glossectomy because of cancer at the Brisbane hospital. One of my surgeons was from the UK and he is the best doctor I have ever met. He is human, and humanity is everything when you deal with sick people. Also, I have to organize my own appointments every 3 months, the hospital should do it, but they manage to do it so bad that I need to spend a few weeks organizing everything myself. So I know exactly what you mean when you talk about the disorganisation lol.

[@kimberleygirl7533]

I’m glad the system attracts those like yourself, however as a patient, I can’t say our health service is so great. A car accident victim, left in a wheelchair sent home after six hours with Panadol for pain, then re- admitted hours later for X-ray of a broken wrist and 3 broken ribs. Then those who died in ambulance ramping….

[@adwaithsuresh730]

love your videos and very informative for someone trying to pursue medicine in Australia. Cant wait for the part 2 of this video and see the decision you've made. cheers!

[@TimDavis640]

I think the big thing in Australia compared to the NHS is the limited availability of specialist training positions in Australia. I believe it’s far more competitive to get onto advance training programs. So yes that sort of hustle and grinding mindset has become very much entrenched in Australian healthcare system

[@drsurinataneja]

💯

[@aliabdaal]

Super interesting stuff

[@drsurinataneja]

Omg hi! 👋🏽 Thanks for watching ☺️ Get in touch anytime if once you become a full time digital nomad and consider coming to Aus!

[@reenamola2162]

@@drsurinataneja why would anyone go to aus? it's a dictatorship run by criminals who have doctors supporting the tyranny they push not telling their patients the truth about the dangers of the clot shot. when nuremburg 2.0 comes along, u know you're gonna be dealing with the consequences for taking part in whats been going on right?

[@MilonMia]

I was thinking of Ali while watching this lol

[@Prince077Aussie]

@@drsurinataneja Hey Surina, also keep in mind you might be doing so many hours now because of covid not because of it is a work culture and people don’t mind doing extra hours now to make as much money as they can now, so they can have good bank balance when things go back to normal.

[@razvan0312]

Love your video, I practice as a internal medicine specialists in Romania, I’m really interested in Australia mostly because of the weather, hope in 1-2 years I’ll be able to try working there

[@shaimakhan124]

I spent the last year in the ER way more than I care to remember and it is so true about there being lots of Brits in the ER in Sydney at least.

[@rhirhi2194]

So funny to hear your perspective about overtime and the expectation that you just wont ever finish on time. Us paramedics are compensated pretty well for overtime (in NSW at least), but it has created a culture of having to suck it up if you have to work past your 12 hour shift.

[@l4x54n]

Have just binged your series on applying for Australia and am really enjoying the content! I just started my F2 year and want to start the application process for next August - there's a LOT of things I have to get ready so I better get started now haha! In all honesty, wanting to go to Australia and experience working as a doctor there is one of the few things I know for sure that I want to do in this field, so I hope I will get to do it. Maybe see you around in Queensland next year!

[@andiiiiiz77]

Hey! How has your application process went!? Keen to find out updates from yourself as I am a medical student considering on moving after my F1 !

[@saveourfigs]

I did a term with a vascular surgeon many years ago. The boss prided himself on only needing four hours sleep a night. In actual fact, he was THE most irritable and unpleasant man I’ve ever met. 630am starts sounds like the team/boss want the patients asleep and uncomplaining.

[@textliter]

Discharge summaries are very important and a KPI in the hospitals. They need to be done and they even have jobs specifically to fill out discharge summaries now. If you work it you should be paid it, the NHS is in shambles and I wouldn't work there for any amount of money. Also important to note that many hospitals in Australia have a culture of not submitting overtime. Money is important and the best part of medicine in Australia is you have that freedom to either make money, or to be a public hospital charity hero and work 80 hours a week for the price of 38. Why shouldn't doctors be paid their worth? After finishing training the best thing I ever did is leave the public system after years of early morning ward rounds. Now working half days a few days a week.

[@Karlettastar]

Excuse me Dr, there is nothing wrong with taking your time in learning. The ickiness and sadistic-like work culture can gaslight us into feeling we aren't moving fast enough. But well done, really great to hear you were acknowleged in ED, and in the breast surgery/ reconstruction unit.

[@ceeeblack]

Getting paid for every minute of your time isn’t a standard across Australian hospitals - it varies significantly between hospitals as well as the processes required to apply for overtime.

[@dagwould]

Its not standard across any private or public enterprise. Professionals are expected to work as needed. That said, it is crazy to work to the level of fatigue. Medicos must know that when one is fatigued effective IQ drops precipitously, as does rational capacity, resilience and judgement. I want a well rested surgeon attending me, not some over-worked, tired, half-asleep one.

[@nzubeazubuike1290]

Have been following your videos for some time now and I love them. You're doing an excellent job. I am thinking of following the same path, you're such an inspiration.

[@kunjumaster]

Just stay! It is worse and worse here. I have got my UK CCST and already got a job in Melbourne. Much better training, salary and work-life balance. Stay and grind - you will not regret it. Forget training in UK, especially in UK surgery!

[@drsurinataneja]

Ahh decision made for now but let's see what happens 🤷🏽‍♀️ glad you're enjoying Melbourne!

[@jen_81]

Being a dr, I love how detailed and honest your videos are! Pls keep making such videos! Subbed :)

[@JK-yf9sx]

Well that was a cliff-hanger! You win today's prize for tantalizing tease (hope we don't have to wait too long for part 2)☺

[@ghdrum]

I'm a Paramedic up north (UK) and 6am or 7am starts are standard for us. #vom......I've decided to head over to Dubai for similar reasons you went to Oz. The NHS sucks. Plus, in the UAE everything you earn (which is significantly better than the UK) is tax-free..........

[@esnutaliah]

Gosh. I couldn’t be happier not to do this. I grew up wanting to be a doctor and nothing else, and yet it’s so unhealthy. We need sunrise, grounding on the earth, adequate sleep and rest, lots of fresh air and freedom/choices. Leaving jobs slowly and replacing them with homegrown vegetables and eggs and rainwater... nothing like it and no dollar amount compares.

[@patrussell8917]

Some fair sized Queensland towns have no doctor nor have had one for some time.Hours of travel needed to reach hospital doctor or nurse

[@klucas1207]

great video! thanks for sharing! 😊 and all the best for you!😊

[@kalencwil3924]

I don’t know how you guys do it. Hope you get paid well and enjoy your life now that your best years have been spent studying

[@puneetmeel5082]

As an Indian.. I can confirm you have an Indian blood..it's in your face , voice , behavior and everything.. hands off to your Indian dad 🙌

[@niteshjaz7230]

As medical student from south Asia ,UK to Australia by competent authority pathway already set in my mind ...you make me realize the dream to work hard and get it's fruit quite lucrative in Australia & my thinking is in right direction . Hope you make a good content someday for us too

[@andycochrane4131]

Lucrative?

[@exec9292]

@@andycochrane4131 that means from a financial and other standpoint

[@andycochrane4131]

@@exec9292 yes, thank you, but I was questioning the morality of the commenter’s motive. Sorry if that was unclear. Seems to me if health professionals are chasing money, where do their patients factor in?

[@exec9292]

@LUL don't worry there's not much money there anyway. Better than the UK yes but still a joke compared to many other countries

[@ElizabethUkeh]

​@@andycochrane4131 just like other jobs, doctors deserve to earn money, plan for ways to earn more and feel good while earning it.

[@collectivechloe]

My fiancée & I are moving over to Australia from the Uk this month! Love watching your videos, gets me all excited! Smashing it 🧡

[@drsurinataneja]

Ahh very exciting, good luck for the move!!👍🏽

[@drsurinataneja]

And thank you ☺️

[@Padma._22]

​@@drsurinataneja ​​ ​ just have a small doubt thou ... What is the total number of pg seats (India ) or registrarship available for all clinical subjects throughout all hospitals in all medical colleges and hospitals in Australia ( ent,opthal ,medicine ,surgery ,obgy,paeds, orthopedics,anesthesia , psychiatry ,radiology dermatology , pulmonary medicine ,emergency medicine etc ) . What is the total number of seats and in how many of these seats can a international medical graduates enroll given than they have passed their amc exams and have 1-2 years of general practitioner experience in Australia.

[@oblivion_2852]

Funny enough you moved into Brisbane City just before I did. I've lived in Brisbane practically my whole life and love the city and I moved into the cbd august last year. It's been absolutely great living next to the university campus being 22. While I was studying Computer Science I had no social life but now with financial freedom and free time going to the social events available has been great

[@benjaminnhlam2867]

This explains so much why residency training is significant shorter in "years" time in North America than Australia and UK 😅 Residents and even med students on clinicals here are casually expected to work 50-60 hours weekly while being paid the standard annual amount with no overtime whatsoever 😭. The only extra stipend trainees get is from calls. So we probably end up doing the same total number of hours just spread across fewer years haha.

[@faithlesshound5621]

It does not fully explain the shorter training time in the US. Until 1975, overtime was unpaid in UK medicine, and junior doctors were often working 1 night in 2 (on call 100 + hours/week) or 1 in 3 (80 hours/wk). Overtime at 30% of the daytime rate rate started in 1975: before that juniors were often "second on call" if they were not "first on call" during the week. The European Union changed all that with its Working Time Directive. The unpaid overtime she speaks of is just extra hours at the end of the day, which all professions have: working all night and carrying on the next day has gone from junior medical life. Despite the long hours, the norm was 1 yr House Officer, 1- 2 yrs SHO, a few years as Registrar and then 1 - 5 yrs Senior Registrar. That added up to a lot more hours in training posts than in the US. In those days there were few organised rotations and SHOs might look for a new job every 6 mths. Other European countries had similarly protracted medical training. Hence the level of medical emigration to the US. The US exceptionalism was explained thus: Americans went straight from 1 yr internship into a specialised 3 yr residency and possibly a fellowship before going on to work as super-specialists, whereas in the UK you had to become (and qualify as) a competent general physician or surgeon before being allowed to specialise and usually remained responsible for most medical or surgical emergencies.

[@benjaminnhlam2867]

@@faithlesshound5621 Thanks for the explanation. Always very interesting to learn about other systems of medical education. With that said, it's not quite "exceptionalism", considering most countries outside NA also allow students to get straight into medical school from high school, whereas NA typically requires an undergrad degree. And before you say that training before medical school matters less than training after, my experience from both the Australian and NA systems is that the first few years of Australian medical school content can comfortably be covered by an undergraduate science degree. Subsequently, during clerkship (MS3 and MS4 in NA), NA medical students are expected to gain competency a lot closer to F1-F2 than senior medical students elsewhere (at least in Australia). So that could explain why NA MD graduates are competent enough to enter specialty training, without having to undergo lengthy mid-level training. Also, really, the point about overtime still stands. At least in Australia, and the NHS it seems, junior doctors get paid based around a great hourly rate (either that be within 38-48 hour limit) + any overtime bonus on top of that pay (regardless of how much or little of this they do). This contrasts greatly to residents here in the US and Canada where we get a base salary + call stipend and are expected to work 50-60 hours weekly and the total pay when divided by the hours worked translate to a bit more than minimum wage, especially during the early years of PGY1-3. With all that said, though, I think the systems are just very different overall. Almost every single MD grad in US/Canada goes on to be an attending making attending's salary, whereas the same cannot be said about Australia (not too familiar with the UK), where people, as Surina mentioned too, get stuck on the hamster wheel trying to enter specialty training. That could explain why residents are paid less here (per hour worked) (to accommodate for the "shorter" training time and their inevitable promotion to attending status).

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@benjaminnhlam2867 The US has always had much shorter medical training than the rest of the world. Back in the 19th century, many medical schools had a two year course before the award of the MD. Some even had just one set of lectures which the students had to attend for two consecutive years. That was before they insisted on a college degree first. At the same time the UK was moving from four to five year courses.

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@benjaminnhlam2867 A couple more points. As I understand it, the undergraduate courses required of intending medical students in the US (physics, chemistry, biology + one or two others) are at first year level, and the rest of the BA or BS degree is up to the student, as long as they maintain their GPA in the pre-medical subjects. The relevance of this is that American schools' graduation at 18 is at the level of 16 year old kids in England, France and Germany, and US 1st and 2nd year college courses are at the level of the last two years of school (for the clever kids at least) in European countries. Pre-meds MAY get to an advanced level in physiology and other pre-clinical sciences, but they might instead study music. The other point you make, which I had not realised before, is that internships were abolished in the USA on the grounds that, thanks to the clinical experience gained in the final year of medical school, their medical students were graduating with clinical skills comparable to doctors with one year's experience in other countries. Consequently it was appropriate for new MDs to go directly into a residency without further broad-based experience. It's just as well that US graduates continue to work in teams in large centres, and the single-handed work out in the sticks is left to foreign medical graduates.

[@Dr_Footbrake]

OT/extra hours seems to be a bit of a broad Australian culture thing. I have friends that work in construction who legitimately budget for overtime and complain about not working public holidays etc as they miss out on overtime (as well as site allowance).

[@tomtomtom2323]

I really enjoyed watching the video😁To a general surgeon in Japan, the starting hour in Australia is crazy! But Japan has a similar culture, we get good overtime bonus( the government is starting to restrict it from2024 though). Do you have to work regularly after you do an urgent surgery during your on call shift??

[@arfaa584]

You explain things in a really soothing voice. 👍

[@Steve50663]

Can someone do surgical training in the UK , then move to OZ and start basically straight away?

[@juliebrooke6099]

What time are the patients expected to wake up in the morning? Six sounds about two hours too early to me. Hospital days seem endless to patients anyway so why start unnecessarily early?

[@sistagalsistagal8136]

Aussie here🦘. Kudos to all our healthcare workers, and gratitude for the hard-working UK ones that I've grown to love. Not one of them complained about the hours and the extremely hard work they have happily adjusted to downunder. Many healthcare workers "choose" to work lots of overtime, the money is just too good to resist. Of course for some, it is required you work your butt off, but that's Australia, and it will never change. We also don't have a class system, so the attitude is that if you work hard enough you too can have a dream life.

[@TanveerHasan-zt3id]

Hey I’m a Gastro ST4 trainee in the NHS. Can you apply for a gastro training job in Australia? Australian health system seems to be so much better!!

[@nitramluap]

We have knife to skin at 8:00 so if you expect to a handover, including new overnight admissions, and then a ward round before you start.... then, yeah... you start before 7:00. That's surgery if you want to do it. Nothing new there. I think you have unrealistic expectations. Don't forget... all the overtime is paid.

[@drsurinataneja]

7am start >>>> 6am start 🫠

[@jai42636]

I'm obsessed with your accent.

[@Muhammadx851]

Hi doc , i am a final year med student . My goal is australia , shall i sit the plab's do my foundation years and move to aus or directly sit the AMC. Please tell me the route where the possibility to score a job is higher, thanks.

[@tarekhk]

Getting into training in Australia sounds challenging but how difficult is it to CCT in UK then move to Australia? Are there limitation or would it be relatively easier to get a consultant post there?

[@gagglesas]

I decided against going to australia in my f3 because of covid but still thinking about it. I'm now doing GP training in UK, do you ever hear about british GPs working in Australia?

[@drsurinataneja]

Yep! Don't know any personally but know they have

[@kaitlync9568]

i’m so excited for part 2!

[@drdecode4]

pay off your student loan asap...else you will only be paying off its compounding intrest on monthly basis for life. Divert all your savings to pay it off first.dont let it compound. your videos are nice.keep the good work up.

[@rowanbrecknell4021]

Good to see you you look bloody bright. Like a smart cookie.

[@maniyadav6190]

I will surely improve my English word bank, if I continue watching your videos. Thanks from India

[@erikmardiste]

Done the 4 am wake ups hated every minute. Even worse split shift

[@ALFREDO_FUENTE24]

Hi, good day. Nice to see you here. I am Alfredo De La Fuente here in Perth. I work with a few business owners. Do you mind if I ask you a question?

[@rowanbrecknell4021]

Most jobs here in Australia now are at 6 am. It used to be 7am but I don't know when it changed due to shift work.

[@Blue-goose-artist]

I want to attend to pre university in medical field of NSW uni,as I am informed,the requirements are 6.5 IELTS and 7.5 over 10 for the mininum GPA.I am at the late of grade 10 already:() so worry:-:

[@SmileySmileP]

Hello, sis, may I know if cardiologists in Sydney have to work only 38hours per week and can claim double pay overtime after that 38hours? And how much a cardiologist specialist consultant earn per annum by working that 38hours a week? ❤️ Thank u so much!

[@alexandru-romualdobabiciu8443]

Is it hard ( nearly imposible)for an internacional student, that finished med school in Europe, to apply to cardiology or gastroenterology specialty programs in Australia? What kind of skills are they looking for the most to make that selection? Thank you for the video, very informative for someone who isn't quite sure what path to take on the medical jorney.

[@drsurinataneja]

I don't know about the paperwork/qualifications side of things but general skills they are looking for are the usual doctor stuff - safe, competent, experience of managing unwell patient etc

[@alexandru-romualdobabiciu8443]

And would you say cardiology and gastro are fairly possible specialtys to get into? Or emigrants fall always a bit behind "locals", to put things into perspective.

[@denisemurphy3915]

Ability to communicate effectively in spoken and written English.

[@mahama710]

@@alexandru-romualdobabiciu8443 From what I’ve heard, any kind of specialisation in Australia is EXTREMELY difficult to get into- even for us locals. It is a fairly rigorous process and they don’t really offer many places per year due to the lessened demand for certain specialists (and greater demand for GPs). I’ve heard that cardiology, and surg specialities, in particular are fairly competitive amongst locals, but can’t speak for others. Just make sure you’ve completed your internship year and residency (first two years out of med school) and try to speak to as many local people as possible

[@younggiftedandblack7634]

Cardiology is like surgery, quite competitive and no guaranteed consultant jobs in public hospitals when you finish. Gastro is not too bad still. Just pass your BPT exam and go from there

[@medicostudy101]

Super valuable info! ❤❤❤ Thanks Surina!

[@drsurinataneja]

You're welcome!

[@SanctumSanctorum1]

Thank you for making the video

[@dr.ahsanilyas8904]

Your voice is best 🥰 just love your voice n content n quality is ausum.... I want to follow the same path you have followed. First NHS N MOVE

[@amirrashid6267]

Thanks so much for all this info, Surina! It's so nice to hear a realistic view of medicine in Australia. I am looking to do an F3 year in Australia but I ideally would like it to count towards GPST. Someone explained that if you email RCGP then they may accept the F3 year as a GPST year if you do 2x 6 month rotations which you would normally do for GPST1 (eg O&G or paeds). Have you met anyone there who is doing this/know if this rumour is true? Thanks - and keep up the great videos! :)

[@drsurinataneja]

You're welcome! Ooh I don't know about this I'm afraid but would make sense. Worth emailing them directly to ask :)

[@typower9]

If a relative of mine were to be intubated, I would rather it were done by a specialist than a GP.

[@TamaEnergy]

I have an ED job in SC in august hope i enjoynit as much as u did! Where u at QEii?😊

[@Nidhijain-rl3lz]

Hi ! I’m an anaesthesiologist and my husband is an urologist in India. Planning to fill the specialist pathway form and see where we stand in AMC ? Is it worth the time and money here in Australia? As we are in middle age so wanted to know the right info with any surgeons?

[@jj-if6it]

The NHS is a 48 hour work week??! I know doctors work long hours but man. No wonder there's huge burnout

[@kobetamakloe5253]

I got confused. You said overtime pay is non existent and also said it is lucrative. Which is which?

[@drsurinataneja]

NHS = non existent Aus = lucrative

[@lucycrook-xt2de]

Wondering if you worked in ED on the Gold Coast? Loved working there as a locum!

[@geoffro1125]

here i am in the US where 6-630 am start is standard and overtime pay is nonexistent sigh ...

[@drsurinataneja]

🤢 💔

[@kayelle8005]

Patients don’t love 6:30am ward rounds either

[@TamaEnergy]

Thinking of going but don't know where

[@jayakrishnanvy1034]

Hi Maam, whether DNB is recognised by AMC as a specialist degree? Kindly give some inputs. Thanks in advance, Regards

[@faizanali2067]

First of all Thank You So Much for guiding us you explain everything so perfectly My question is "How to get into training programs in Australia specially for surgery training, what duration does it take in Australia and compare it with UK please"

[@drsurinataneja]

Training programme is 5 years or so but can take few years to get on then a few years of fellowship jobs after wards before becoming a consultant

[@faizanali2067]

Make a video of getting into training programe in Australia

[@CEOpaschal]

Pls how can an international medical graduate (who doesn't have any internship training/experience) be able to enroll in both the FY1 and FY2 foundation programs in UK?

[@rheynn_]

Did you take any exam before landing a job of being a doctor in aus, like AMC1 MCQ?

[@shrishtisharma2494]

6AM ward rounds? Nah 🙂. Refreshingly honest and so much useful information here . Thank you!

[@SurferO_24]

ED in Australia it is then, now I just need to find a way to come there straight from Cyprus

[@caraellis2827]

I always really appreciate Australia so much more when I come back from UK lol

[@joannewilson6847]

I was taken aback when a doctor my dad and I were under rang for a 1-2 minute consult during covid regularly. How much we were charged I don’t know, but I guess it was more than $70 per person. Easy money made and very uncaring. To be told to go to hospital if we needed to if the practice was unattended. I truely believe the horses mean more to this country doctor. Needs to clean the surgery as well. Not bitter, just being upfront and realistic.

[@iamnoone78647]

Is it possible to run chains of private clinics in aus?

[@charliez7130]

Hope you and your partner stay here in Aus !

[@sohananjana]

Oh god! Please give us the part 2 soon 🙏🤣

[@mariecollet8713]

Should you decide to travel around Australia check out Queen Elizabeth hospital in Adelaide. My cousin Ray Casse is a Dr Neurologist and specialise in one other medical field. Have a chat to him & best of luck

[@erictingkingco2746]

I’m having a training in a Hospital here in Saudi and hopefully i can work in UK or maybe Australia

[@MV-mo6nc]

Excellent video and you have a really nice style in explaining things. Do You have a video re. The overtime rates in Australia + salary?

[@drsurinataneja]

Yup on my channel!

[@MV-mo6nc]

@@drsurinataneja what’s it called? Couldn’t find it :/

[@francisbrown2692]

My daughter is completed MBBS in India in March what we will do next steps

[@xenne.]

you’ve given me so much more hope as continuing my journey into medicine .. my Pinterest is now full with pics of Melbourne aha

[@rowanbrecknell4021]

3:34 I get up at 4 am to start ant 6 am. I won't get up earlier as I am not a horse trainer. ;)

[@connorgames6668]

I'm thinking of joining the NHS as a cardiac physiologist. Would I expect the same sort of work life balance as a doctor, or is that different.

[@drsurinataneja]

Not sure what their out of hours work load is like!

[@geoffk8996]

I’ve just watched your second video. So what you’ve decided to do is basically do nothing.

[@talonohel8125]

Hello! As a prospective medical student applicant in the next cycle, I was wondering if it is unheard of for UK medical graduates to start their foundation years in other countries (e.g. Australia) instead. I completed my UG studies in Australia and have been really liking the culture, I might be looking at potentially doing medical studies in the UK. However, I would still like to keep working in Australia in the future open as an option. Also, thank you for such a transparent video which gave me much food for thought.

[@drsurinataneja]

Not really much easier to go to Aus after completing F1 and F2 and having full GMC registration

[@talonohel8125]

@@drsurinataneja Got it, thank you so much!

[@sayedm2392]

@@drsurinataneja Hello, can I complete FY1 not in the UK then complete FY2 in the uk and still be eligible to FY3 in Australia?

[@tahakarim1901]

Hi Surina, as an a-level student in the UK who's considering applying for medicine, I wanted to ask, what made you move to Australia from the NHS instead of moving to America? (As I've heard the pay in America is higher and doctors there have a better work life balance as per anecdotes)

[@drsurinataneja]

1. Don't want to work in the healthcare system in the USA (privatised, poor work life balance) 2. Don't want to sit more exams (USMLE) 3. Australia is high up on my travel list so wanted to explore it whilst working

[@tahakarim1901]

@@drsurinataneja I see... So you don't need to take any exams to apply for medicine in Australia?

[@hjf3022]

Junior doctors in the US are not well paid, and are expected to work long hours without overtime. Because of this, you may end up making less (per hour) than someone working at McDonalds

[@tahakarim1901]

@@hjf3022 thanks for your reply. Is Australia different from the UK and US?

[@hjf3022]

@@tahakarim1901 Different in that in Australia overtime is paid at 1.5x for every hour over the standard 80 hour fortnight. And if you manage to get over 120 hours in a fortnight, then you are paid double time for each of those extra hours. From memory, the average base salary assuming a 40h week/80h fortnight for a first year intern is about $80,000 AUD per year

[@alexwyler4570]

hihi in America, you work the long Australian hours( starting early) and you are NOT compensated for it. 🤔😵‍💫😳🥰

[@drsurinataneja]

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[@karangoswami3476]

When does an IMG can apply for FY2 in UK?

[@SuperMan-vr6pb]

can't wait for part 2 anymore😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@luluhalim]

Loved the video! If you don’t mind me asking, what medical school did you go to in the uk?

[@drsurinataneja]

UCL :)