Working with the Oxen. Part One. 2013.

[@wesselvanwyk1335]

In the late fourties many farmers(white) still used oxen to plough their fields but some of us used mules instead because they worked faster and if I remember correctly we only use 10-12 mules for a 2 furrow plow with 14 inch shears. The guys with the oxen used at least 12 oxen but more often 16! You have to know the business to control 12 mules and to get them harnessed. They all wear eye flaps because they easily got startled. Some of our black farmers still use oxen but it is something that will disappear in the next 20 years. I think there is a nish marketing oppertunity if one can keep 12 to 16 well trained oxen and show off with them on shows, festivals, etc. People of today do not have a clue how we as farmers struggle in the beginning years - and you know what it was peaceful and we live longer. Thanks for a great video. I like the way you control the oxen from behind - with our bigger teams we used somebody infron, one aside with a long handle whip and one guy controling the plow. Regards from Springbok country - South Africa.

[@mattychapati]

Thank you for your reply. I'm glad that you appreciated this video. Actually, in India they've been using oxen in this way for thousands of years. All the Hare Krishna farms around the world use oxen, so it is something, at least in our community that will never die out.

[@sampubg32]

Who are watching in 2021

[@cornaliouscornslious5782]

thanks for remembering the traditional farming GOD bless you

[@mustafselimo8895]

U zu h

[@lizslp86]

I love your video.And do believe that everyone can grow their own food and milk.People shouldn’t depend on a store to stock up their food.We have the power to teach others and continue this tradition for generations to come.And poverty Can no longer be a reason people starve.Thanks for sharing this tradition.I guarantee organic food taste better and even better when you know you harvested.

[@withastickangrywhiteman2822]

Feel peaceful when watching this, Food comes not easy, we shouldn't waste food.

[@randybutler4772]

Thank you for sharing.🐄🐄

[@cbagchi453]

Thanks educating and encouraging people to work with such magnificent animals beyond meat.

[@Golfgtiguy]

Lovely ,they ate great animals .Great to see a person looking after them .

[@mattychapati]

Golfgtiguy Thank you. The cow's and oxen also have their own medical team that look after them.

[@fungames24]

I hope one day humans will repay oxen for building our civilization. It would not have been possible without them.

[@mattychapati]

Well we try our best by having one of Europe's biggest cow protection centres. Also Google 'Ahimsa Farms' UK.

[@thereasonableamericans411]

What spectacular creatures!

[@eslmhs]

The word ox came from the Old English word oxa. The Anglo-Saxons called cattle oxa while the Normans called them boef in Old French. I think the reason the word ox became restricted to oxen is because the Anglo-Saxons used them to plow fields and pull carts while the Normans ate beef. Can you believe that?

[@himanshusharma-nx1cv]

Very nice . Hardworking oxens👌👌

[@mattychapati]

@Rahul Ware Oxen, as they are castrated. Bulls still have their 'tickle tackle.' :)

[@windymeadowsoxteam7783]

Awesome!

[@MormonAll]

A pleasure to see these folks working with the teams. Just watching speaks volumes about a "Peaceful Lifestyle". Live and let live. :)

[@mattychapati]

Thank you MormanAll. Live and let live indeed :-)

[@muttgusse]

they are so calm and nice! good job!

[@mattychapati]

+Gustav Andersson They are very beautiful creatures. I love them all so much.

[@lindamclean8809]

That music ! Wow. 💕💕

[@mattychapati]

The divine Ragas of the master Ravi Shankar

[@kathleenmckenzie6261]

This filming was of excellent quality; I could have used it for a learning series on animals if it had a narrative. Maybe you'll do another? Or add a soundtrack to this one?

[@leelaorganicfarm]

excellent music

[@mattychapati]

Yes Leela, love Ravi Shanka raga's. Obviously been some people on here that have heard the music and obviously have absolutely no idea about Indian music or culture. Anyway, it takes all sorts in this life, so it seems. Om 🕉 Hari Om 🕉

[@pedroalanisespronceda6916]

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[@mattychapati]

Dear Erin. Thank you for your constructive criticism and thoughts. I really appreciate an honest opinion of my work. When I shot this I was a full on ox worker and had only just started to make films and learn about editing. My idea was to produce a series of educational films for devotees, and anyone else who may be interested in working the land with oxen and keeping a cow or two. Krsna is very kind. Hari bol!

[@antonioandrei9446]

Matty Dread gfxv

[@user-nn5mp6sn7h]

+Antonio Andrei 444>ققث

[@enmanuelzapata5919]

Matty Dread vv

[@mattychapati]

mule skinner The yoke keeps the two oxen bound together. Don't worry, they don't get sore from the yoke's.

[@rosalbaespinorodriguez7008]

Matty Dread.

[@geoffnemec-hillwalker.film9648]

I love the video. Great work.

[@mattychapati]

Springhill Water Thank you.

[@venkteshchalwadi7931]

💯

[@patriotamazon189]

That older brown and white ox NEEDS to be on the outside of the turn because his knees are SWOLLEN. Tight inside turns out too much strain on his poor SWOLLEN knees. But the boys need help plowing properly to get it done easier on them and the ox.

[@mattychapati]

His knees are not swollen. He was born with big knees, so it was in his genetic make up. They didn't cause him any problems.

[@wernerlourens3420]

Thank you for this video. We like it.

[@mattychapati]

Werner Lourens You're welcome. I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

[@CelestialBow]

Confused why the nose rings which must be very painful to force your will and force compliance - is this really necessary and the highest way to respect the cow?

[@Chinu97327]

@ Wessel Van Wyk, Sir thank you so much for making this video, I am from India and I glad to see this video, I was eagerly awaiting for such videos where you are using oxen instead of mule because in India we prefer oxen only, i want to develope such farming equipment here in India, i request your help by providing me a disign to develope such kind of equipment which help us a lot for affordable farming.

[@swampyankee72]

I know this is a older video, but I'm curious to learn why you use metal bows and not wood?

[@mattychapati]

It's just preference really. Metal are more robust but wooden bows are just as good.

[@swampyankee72]

@@mattychapati thank you for the reply, otherwise it was a great video. I always used wood when I had mine.

[@calebsf]

wow wonderful animals! thank you for the video. what was planted there?

[@mattychapati]

Mother Nature Ranch All sorts of vegetables were planted there. Spinach, beetroot, cabbage and cauliflower to name a few.

[@kiki1299able]

Hi good night, would it be possible to use a part of this video?

[@symhatree7902]

Can I please ask in what context that you would like to use it for?

[@kiki1299able]

@@symhatree7902 hi I am doing a video that I want to show what it looks like to be equally yoked

[@symhatree7902]

@@kiki1299able Sure no problem

[@kiki1299able]

@@symhatree7902 thanks no problem. i will put where i got the video from.

[@astottara]

It's a shame there is no audio to hear the vocal cues for the bullocks (sorry, oxen on that side of the world) and I found some content a little slow going - not so time consuming if you are out on the field actually with them, but as a video it could have been shorter, or at least with a narrative of given vocal cues, their names etc, something to make it more personal. Even so, all glories to your seva, it is nice to see the boys out working in this age where so many ISKCON farms breed to milk cows - and use milking machines =( - and the boys just munch around on grass - their manure is a great service but Prabhupada always wanted the boys to be used instead of tractors. So yay actually following real cow protection! I am inspired.

[@golu2298]

After ten years complete this video 2023

[@mattychapati]

Please explain? ... This video is complete.

[@anuttamadevidasi6229]

Our oxen here are just now old enough to work and we're getting familiar with the equipment we've collected. With horse farming, they usually use three draft horses for a riding plow and it does look like hard going for the two you are working. Our soil here in Glenoma, Washington is very soft and light, so even with our out-of-condition oxen, do you think we can use a riding plow?

[@mattychapati]

Give it a try, you've nothing to lose. There are tried and tested methods for farming, but there is a lot to be said for trial and error also. Good luck and please keep me posted on your progress. Hare Krsna.

[@jamesmorton8224]

Oxen are much stronger than horses.

[@patriotamazon189]

Where do you get a plow like what you're using with the brown and white oxen? I would like to buy one

[@mattychapati]

We made it. Good isn't it!

[@calidafeuersichel1515]

Very beautiful video. it's sad how in western countries the knowlege of training oxes is getting lost (I live in one too: Switzerland). have you experience with training a cow? I have a mothercow who realy likes to pull. Do you use voice commands?

[@mattychapati]

+Calida Feuersichel Hi Calida. Thank you for your nice comment. The voice commands we use are based on the American system for training oxen. Get up = go. Haw = left. Gee (pronounced 'jee') = right. Woah = stop. Get back = get back (reverse). The reverse command will only work when the oxen are free standing without being attached to any buggy or cart etc. To train them you may have to use a stick. Please don't hit them hard. We never use excessive force, but animals understand what a stick is. We could never do what we do without it. Hard to control big heavy oxen without a stick or a whip. No doubt people may find this alarming but please don't forget that we are into protecting cows and not hurting them. Bhaktivedanta Manor Hare Krishna Temple UK is one of the biggest cow protection centres in Europe.

[@mattychapati]

Thank you Chakraborty. Did you see the other videos in this series?

[@babasahebgaywal7839]

Matty Dread

[@iloveamerica8541]

You should use a better yoke.

[@davidchristensen6908]

I enjoyed the music. You did not link the music in the video. It is now 2017 are these oxen now trained? Did they and you become a good working team?

[@mattychapati]

Yes all the oxen in this video were already trained. Most people working with the Oxen bond with them very quickly.

[@GhulamRasool-cy7si]

medak antharam villege

[@mattychapati]

Ghulam Rasool This is Bhaktivedanta Manor. ISKCON UK.

[@iloveamerica8541]

Why does the brown oxen has huge knees?

[@mattychapati]

He was born with big knees, so it was in his genetic make up. They didn't cause him any problems. He name was Sukadeva. He was extremely peaceful, and a very gentle soul. My favourite ox who sadly passed away a few years ago.

[@jaglinuxmint]

Thank you so much for this video. Please make more videos for beginners in the farming and goshala dairy...also 1. Vegetable garden for producing organic vegetables or one's where lots of chemicals are not used. 2. Tulsi tree cultivation and maintenance 3. How to get food for the cattle in cheap. 4. Goshala maintenance and looking after gomathas 5. Harvesting rain water for forming 6. Sustainable energy sources like solar, wind, cow-dung gas (biogas) etc and other videos which you like..... Sir, you have very good knowledge and a kind heart please make more videos...please.....

[@mattychapati]

+jaglinuxmint Hari bol. I will endeavour to make some films as you've requested.

[@jaglinuxmint]

Mattychapati das Thank you prabhu!

[@mattychapati]

+jaglinuxmint I'll do my best to make more videos as you've requested. Where are you based? Hari bol

[@jaglinuxmint]

Mattychapati das I am from India prabhu! This knowledge you are imparting is the need of the hour for the entire planet.

[@mattychapati]

Prabhu,it is not me imparting this knowledge. All the credit should be directed to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

[@salmonross]

Sir I want to preach a sermon on Yoke for the Youth. I will give you the credit for you. I will use this for only one minute show. Can I use this?

[@mattychapati]

Yes of course, please feel free to use as much as you like 🙏🏼

[@debbiehorn3845]

Sorry guys, couldn't finish the video, the music was driving me crazy.

[@mattychapati]

Have you not heard of the mute button? :-)

[@PickleRick65]

What's the music?

[@mattychapati]

Ravi Shankar. RIP. Sitar maestro.

[@benkolosim4162]

What is that of a breed ?

[@mattychapati]

Meuse-Rhine-Issel and English Longhorn.

[@carlosayala6754]

I think head yokes are better them neck yokes, oxen with head yokes have better control over themselves.

[@dwightehowell6062]

They appear to be disking the same plot of ground again and again. Huh?

[@withastickangrywhiteman2822]

Trained cows know there would be nice food after work.

[@fuerstmetternich824]

what is the working life span of an ox....and what happens when he has to "retire"?

[@mattychapati]

The oxen work between 12-15 years through out their lives. It all depends on the particular oxen as they are all individuals, and therefore they all have individual spans of time for their working lives. We are currently working on getting blue collars for all the oxen. When they retire, they literally retire. They don't have to work anymore and, they can lay in the warm barns in the hay during winter. Then when spring comes they stay out to pasture until it gets too cold, and again the whole herd come into the warm barns for the duration of the cold UK winter until, again when the warm spring weather comes around again.

[@enesilhan5896]

Do you think it is an ox or a strong horse?

[@karabinene]

Hi Matty, Thank you for the video. I'm a PhD student and I wonder if it would possible to use your oxen for research? Is there an email or website, or something where we could discuss? Thanks!

[@mattychapati]

Please leave me your email address and I'll get back to you.

[@TruthHurts225]

What if they both poot????

[@mattychapati]

Natural fertilizer for the earth.

[@lekre8421]

Some hard-working assistants. That plowing looks like pretty tough going. Hope they get all kinds of appreciation from you. They look awfully well taken care of.

[@mattychapati]

Le Kre Yes. The place where they live is Bhaktivedanta Manor Hare Krishna temple. It's the biggest cow protection centre in the UK and the second in Europe.

[@mattychapati]

Le Kre The cow's and oxen also have their own medical team that look after them.

[@Canadian_Hobbit]

Less annoying music and more talking/explaining

[@patriotamazon189]

Fashy Farmer I had to shut the sound off. Instant brain pain

[@shaanrai4429]

Ancient traditions Sacred Animals God bless do not eat mother cow and Ox Bullock Gods watching

[@kinnymonster]

Can a single ox pull a 1 12"-14" furrow plow or 2 oxen pull a 2 furrow plow? I've googled and can't find anything. I would think the could given 2-3 horses pull a single.

[@mattychapati]

kinnymonster Two mature oxen can pull just about anything!

[@kinnymonster]

Matty Dread so theoretically 2 oxen could pull 2 bottoms for at least half a day? I would think that's better than 3 horses pulling 1 all day. Our family had a 1000 head beef setup but we had to quit feeding in 05. Never did oxen. There is an Amish farm an hour from where I live.

[@mattychapati]

kinnymonster Yes I would think they could. By the way, in our culture the cow is sacred and it is most sinful to kill her. The western world just needs to be educated. Please don't take offence. Nothing personally directed at you.

[@kinnymonster]

Matty Dread you're Indian? I don't take offense. To each their own. My best friend growing up was seventh day adventist, split hoof only. The crime is those large dairy operations in India. Cattle was our life. The better they were the better we did. There was also a lil emotional attachment that went away when we sold for profit.

[@mattychapati]

kinnymonster No I'm not of Indian birth but follow the ancient Vedic way of life, known otherwise as Hare Krishna. To us all life is sacred. We are pure vegetarian, no meat, fish or eggs. To us all life is equal whether human or animal.

[@saivenkateshwarateluguchan4211]

Which breed are these oxens

[@debyzimmerman6617]

Would rather there had been speaking, the music as such was very distracting.

[@debyzimmerman6617]

Since these two have obviously been castrated, why then are there rings in their noses????? Is there a problem controlling them????

[@Adrian-ue7wg]

yes is a problem of control

[@mattychapati]

Deb Zimmerman Without ring's in their noses you cannot control them or steer them in the direction that you need them to go.

[@dustinfisher29]

What breed are they? Red holsteins?

[@mattychapati]

meuse rhine issel

[@LovepreetSingh-xb2ro]

Ayrshire

[@mattychapati]

Meuse-Rhine-Issel and English Longhorn.

[@bigmoneychico]

where can I buy a plow with wheels can someone tell me ?please.

[@mattychapati]

Jesus Alcala Google 'plow with wheels.'

[@nikolausnighden667]

Keep in mind that cows are ruminants!

[@fuerstmetternich824]

i don't like the thin metal collars.....i would prefer the bigger blue ones, or wooden ones....

[@Saartje05]

+fuerstmetternich I don't like those thing at all, I don't understand why an ox have to pull like this and not with it's chest like a horse. Looks so uncomfortable for them. Although the animals are well take care off, but still.

[@lynnehuff9659]

Pulling by the neck or with some system of yoking, by the horns is traditional, and works fine. Oxen can pull heavy wagons and skid timber. These yokes don't really seem to fit, nor do the oxen appear to be working together. I can't tell if the teamster is using voice commands, or not. The oxen seem in good flesh. No pole on the plow is curious. I agree they do not appear comfortable at all. I'm interested in them and just read a good book featuring oxen teams as the principals going out the Old Oregon Trail.

[@mattychapati]

Lynne Huff Voice commands are always used to control oxen. Because of the pecking order, the dominant oxen always tries to give the more submissive oxen a hard time, even whilst harnessed in a yoke. The yokes are hand made by the bramhacari's (monk's) who live at the temple. The yokes may look like they don't fit but work perfectly.

[@vincentyap2589]

sound like an india music

[@babasahebgaywal7839]

vincent yap

[@IzzySENDreviews]

Why did you have to hit them with the whip on the butt?

[@mattychapati]

That's the way to train them otherwise you have less control. It's only a gentle tap and not done in a heavy handed fashion.

[@yochanantov5490]

...plus choice of music could use improvement.

[@mattychapati]

It's traditional classical Indian music. If it's not to your taste than use the the thing called the 'volume control.' Anyway, do you actually have anything positive to say?

[@Saartje05]

Why can't a normal harness being used on an ox? This seems so uncomfortable for them. A wooden 'stick' in your neck and something around your neck without being able to move your head doesn't seem very friendly to me. Why is that?

[@rafterbarr1506]

Saartje05 actually it is comfortable, some of the same concepts are used in weight lifting and man hauling.

[@Saartje05]

RafterBarR I've never seen a man lifting weights and then heard him say how comfortable it is...

[@rafterbarr1506]

Saartje05 Strongman competitions, yoke walk although that is a weight carry rather then a pull, if that hurt them, they wouldn't use it. Also ox yokes are carefully built as to assure animal comfort.

[@lizslp86]

I agree.If the animal (ox or horse) wears this behind their head for about 4 hours long.Think about how in one day,a month,a year can change their bone structure.Maybe it won’t show for them.But,the time the animal wears it it prolongs So,much uncomfortability.Hope,there can be a better way to keep them working in the field with comfortable harness.I doubt that the wood behind their head is comfortable.There has to be a better way.Practically is just to keep them together and moving forward.But,there has to be a better way.Just my opinion altough they do a great job.Traditionally is an old way to plot the ground.Hope,someone can figure this one out and give them the change they need.

[@yochanantov5490]

@2:45 Very dangerous position! Anything that would make these animals jumpy and he'd be crushed!

[@mattychapati]

No you're wrong. The yoke is stopping that from happening.

[@Grandpacarlreacts]

Matty I am making a short video about what Oxen are. May I use a bit of this video if I show credit.

[@mattychapati]

Yes my friend. Please feel free to use any of the film that you like. I look forward to seeing your film.

[@Grandpacarlreacts]

Thank you my friend.

[@szaki]

So, are oxen better than horses for farm work?

[@Jefferdaughter]

Like all similar questions, the correct answer is: It depends!! They are different, but not hugely different. Horses are faster, and tend to be more versatile. They think and respond a bit differently, and some will find one or the other species easier to work with. Cows can be trained as oxen and also milked and their calves eaten - but so can horses; it just is not part of our culture. So, it depends on what you like, and what you are comfortable with. They both can reproduce themselves. Run on 'solar' power (via pasture and hay), instead of purchased fuels. With good care, they both can do useful work into their late teens or early 20s. With proper management, they will both increase soil fertility. But plowing - except for narrow rows in a cover crop or closely grazed pasture (see Gab4e Brown or Colin Seis on KZbin) - is destructive, no matter the power source used.

[@JohnDoe-zl6ph]

I've owned both, I will never own another horse. They are brain dead idiots. Oxen are much more reliable, the ones in this video don't work together very well.

[@JohnDoe-zl6ph]

At least the first pair that were plowing don't work together very good.

[@elhombredeoro955]

I am living in India and I have seen people using male water buffaloes too but never horses for farm works. I even have 2 water buffaloes but they are for milk and butter.

[@lynnehuff9659]

The yoke is so different from American yokes. Not to say it is bad, but it does not appear to fit. Haven't seen chains to the nose and wonder why they are even ringed. The pioneers didn't ring them I guess there are many manners of working. Weird yoke though. Could definitely do without the music.

[@mattychapati]

Bhaktivedanta manor goshala UK

[@trungle-ex4mg]

Toi rat thích vi toi cung la ngươi lam ruong cay bang bo

[@timflorek6917]

The music is terrible and the worst you can hear

[@mattychapati]

It's called classical Indian music or raga. It date's back thousands of year's.

[@laloalmarza572]

Ni un Yugo como la gente.

[@earlrussell1026]

You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. You must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus the anointed is Lord! Repent and be baptized and believe the Gospel.

[@losLinarejos]

Las vacas se enganchan de los cuernos, wyeces donde tienen la fuerza. Mis mulos del cuello.

[@chosenpeople5881]

Wat up wit that weird music

[@mattychapati]

The music of India. What's up with your weird dictation? :)

[@GG-cn6es]

Leave it to humans to exploit other living things for our own personal gain.

[@mattychapati]

If you do your research then you'll find that the Hare Krishna people are number one in the world for cow protection. Also research the Hindu scripture and you'll see that they regard the cow as one of their seven mothers.

[@localyokel8534]

This is funny. Only a Hare Krishna head would call Ox "Mother Cows"!

[@mattychapati]

If you read the description properly, there was going to be a whole set of videos about cow husbandry. The set was going to be called ' A house for mother cow.' This video was intended as a part of that series.

[@mattychapati]

Yes there was going to be a whole series of videos called 'A house for mother cow.' Hence the name. Why nitpicking? Got anything positive to say?

[@prestonthompson9848]

Who in Christ name chose your guitar picker? That's awful. Enjoyed the video but had to mute it.

[@mattychapati]

Preston Thompson It's called classical Indian music or raga. It date's back thousands of year's.

[@RLopez78]

Yokohama sufficient

[@milzijex7340]

beautiful animals. makes me sad to see them harnessed and pull such heavy weight. thank goodness for modern machinery

[@mattychapati]

Actually modern machinery is the killer of all draft animals. You're probably unaware that where this is filmed is actually the biggest cow protection centre in the UK. You'll find that wherever there is a Hare Krishna farm that all the cow's, oxen and bull's are protected, as this is part and parcel of Vedic agriculture.

[@ahmedbaig7279]

It is always very difficult to control and guide two animals. In case of young bulls it is extremely difficult, because they are 'beast' even they are constrated. My view is that instead of two constrated bulls one young bull can do the same job. But that cannot be trusted. After all, it is a 'beast' and it has the capacity to kill you at any time, even you are his master!

[@dovahgoat1367]

That's why everyone cuts the bull's balls off before being put to work so they don't get out of hand

[@goranradulovic2654]

a ne mos peske

[@user-xn2hf9re8r]

horrible and irritating music

[@mattychapati]

The music of India!

[@nikolausnighden667]

Thus harnessing kill oxen by starvation !

[@mattychapati]

Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. In over 30 year's, none of the oxen have ever passed away from starvation, although I presume that you meant to say ' suffocation. '