Workshop Vlog #15 Bosch Track Saw Issues! Tools, Project and Channel Update.

[@kevinewert4037]

Mate, thank you so much for this video! I've been struggling with my Bosch plunge saw for ages. I even tried making a mark on the scale at the real 0, but that wasn't much more consistent. So simple to adjust, now that you've shown me, but it's made the world of difference. Keep it up and good luck. 👍

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

I'm glad the video helped 👍

[@TeamWhitfield]

-1 deg cut is very handy for jobs onsite when nothing’s square! You want the face to look perfect and having it cut backwards let’s you have some wiggle room and handy for glue etc..

[@sebastiaanstoffels7565]

Thank you so much! For years I've been frustrated with the Bosch Track Saw not cutting square.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Glad to help

[@Jimmysden]

Hey John, its so refreshing that you chose your sponsors so well. So many youtubers will have sponsors which are nothing to do with the channel. thankyou for being so honest and sticking to what you believe. love your videos and your honesty. keep making and creating. Jimmy

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

It's tough times for everyone out there so mind yourselves guys!

[@Thesidingsworkshop]

You too John keep safe and regards to all the family

[@keggyification]

Same to you John, thanks for all your efforts.

[@graemehill6666]

Benchdogs UK, 2 track dogs with t nuts, stop collers, allen key ideal for your Bosch track saw issue. £30.

[@ThekiBoran]

Mind your pints and quarts.

[@steved8038]

I wish there were more people with your morals and belief's . Good on ye! .you have one of the best woodworking channels on Y.T.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks 👍

[@kansopgod]

Thanks for explaining the squares issue of the Bosch track saw. I have been looking all over the internet for information about this subject but could not find any info. Someone on a Dutch woodworking forum referred to this video. I called Bosch and they admit having problem with calibration there track saws. If it's possible can you make a separate video about this issue and how to setup the angle after calibrating the saw? Have tried to find a way to with a digital angle gauge to setup the angle but havent find a fool proof method. I also thing there is a correlation between the force you applied on the handle of the saw and the angle. I made some test cuts with 30mm plywood, during cutting i had some issue with pushing the saw, because of the thickness of the material and the resistance of the saw and the guide. So by applying more force on the front handle you can see the i some cases that the angle going of the 0 degree and into the -1.

[@seanwaugh7532]

Well John , I have the same problem in my shed with the Frost so I am going to spray the shed with installation foam keep the heat in during winter and keep it nice and cool in the summer

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Might look at something similar

[@philipdoyle881]

I have exactly the same problem too, thought about the spray foam too but looked pretty pricy

[@keving8682]

Thanks for the video John - I watched this video when it was first out, but found myself revisiting it today as I hit the same issue with going back to 90 on the Bosch track saw. I was contemplating putting shims in between the plate but will now try the grub screw first!

[@davidroth7586]

The negative 1 degree is for back cutting when you are butting up against walls. Helpful when you are a kitchen fitter.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Ahhhh thank you

[@rossmarshall8151]

Hi John, another brilliant video, my reason for this comment refers to the 1 degree negative angle setting on the Bosch saw. Now I am not a professional, but since buying one of these saws the only use I can come up with this "could " be for when you're hanging a door. You would be able to put a 1 degree negative angle on the leading edge of the door to get a closer /neater gap when the door is fully closed. I have not tried it yet but I have a bedroom door to change soon and I am going to give it a go, I'll let you know how I get on.

[@seangriffiths6131]

Great videos John, thank you. The Benchdogs undertrack dog is really good on bosch/mafell tracks, get the ring collars too. Good luck with the channel and stay safe

[@eliasklein9174]

The negative 1 degree is for when one will put two sheets together. It is to make them look flush on say a wall or something. Greetings, Elias (Netherlands)

[@gsadlerdavid]

I had the same issue too with my Bosch. Thanks John.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

No problem George

[@gsadlerdavid]

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed I tried this out, however no matter which way I turned the screw and how much it did not change it, if any it made it worse, I found the only way I could get it to be plumb was to put a router bit plastic sleeve under the plate, about half a millimeter. btw plus one for bench dogs for rail makes a huge difference

[@mrangry65]

The bench dog track dogs are great, I had the same issue and now it's a thing of the past. I also reccomend the bench dogs MFT fence a real game changer for repeated cuts.

[@ThekiBoran]

I bought the Benchdogs mft fence. It's definitely a nice system. One issue is the smaller sections of fence don't fit together in a straight line. It's a but concave on the scale side of the fence. I'll try using a straight next time as I bolt it together but it might create a gap and throw off the scale down the line. I also purchased 2 1000mm sections of fence. Their flag stops are good but they need to be a bit beefier, there's a bit of deflection. Their bench dogs fit nicely in 20mm holes. Other brands are quite sloppy. My work bench grid is not accurate enough to use rail dogs and the Benchdogs fence which is why I'm going to try the Parf Guide system and build a new top.

[@ecuadorianme]

And about the rail dogs and fence of benchdogs I can only agree with what everyone has said. Great system even though I use the Festool Saw and track, I still prefer having the dogs under the rail. I don't bother with the B collars though. I made simple rings in the woods thicknesses I use most to put around the rail dogs.

[@monkeysausage2404]

Have a look at hose sleeves it might be a good, cheap, solution for the hose snagging.

[@Andrea-bw8xm]

I always learn something from you. So thanks for that. Yes these are crazy times with enough restrictions to make jumping into a project difficult. Or requires creative planning to get what you need to build something. But with the downtime, I get to watch your videos and that is most enjoyable.

[@ShortWorx]

I've got the Festool, it's nice. Especially like how it's anti static, constant static shocks on a standard hose do get annoying. I'm really liking the expanding Rockler Universal Hose, I've got it set up on a boom arm over by workbench. An added benefit is blocking the hose with my hand causes it to retract out the way.

[@Nilsje]

Do you have a link for the Rockler hose? :)

[@thulegezelschap5884]

The router adapter for those tracks are amazing

[@airford13]

glad your channel is doing so well, keep up the good work, and ride that wave John!!!!!!

[@richarddewis5272]

The Cen-Tec hoses on Amazon are a good option, the connectors are really useful too. You can also buy hose wraps on eBay to reduce friction too

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

I'll take a look thanks

[@VideoPixelStudio]

Thanks for video update John. Enjoying your content. I had a similar problem with my Makita track saw not cutting square, that I only noticed after chopping up a couple of sheets of MDF ... Arghhh! I check it with a square quite regularly now and also do test cuts. I think Peter Millard (10 minute workshop) covered this when he did a budget tracksaw series a while back. Brexit is not great in the UK either, prices are up and it’s more difficult to get some tools. Hopefully will sort itself out eventually.

[@georgebevan2504]

Hi John, A cheap & simple solution to your hose's snagging on the edges of the table is that even if you've chamfered or used a small radius round over bit in your router, is to use the biggest radius round over bit that you can get your hands on! It'll put a larger rounded surface for the hose to easily slide over without snagging

[@seandoran6809]

Great video John, I've the same problem with my non drip shed. I've had the shed about 6 years now, it's a pain but it's usually only for 2 or 3 months of the year. Thanks for the info on the track saw I've been thinking about getting one. I'm getting my workshop all sorted for woodworking, I'm gonna hold off on the dust extraction to see what you come up with lol. Sean from Co Armagh 🇮🇪

[@philipdoyle881]

Thanks, great content, same problem with the same roofing occasionally drips on my saw. Just installed a cnc router so I’m kinda going the other way

[@MrRaptorman1975]

Thanks for the video. I had the Bosch Track saw issue and it fixed it! The instructions are vague.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Glad it helped!

[@mrt076]

Thanks John - I have the US version of the Bosch saw and must of got lucky. The initial bevel was out by a degree, but when I corrected to 0 degrees, it actually perfectly lined up the pointer on the bevel guide to be in perfect alignment.

[@jackjohn6063]

The one big plus with the bosche is that it wont cut the track strip back further when cutting at 45°. Even with the festool and every other saw ive used the moment you cut at 45° you cant line the plastic/rubber edge precisely on your mark anymore when doing your 90° cuts, you have to line it up 1/8 away from your mark. The bosche lines up precisely on your mark no matter the angle.

[@bpt006]

Awesome videos. Keep up the good work. A couple of things to keep in mind with your mft table that I’ve learned from mine. Don’t keep too many tools exposed on the side of your table. When you are gluing up a big project you can drip glue on your tools. Same with the dog holes if you have tools underneath. I have cubbies under my table and I’ve put doors on them to stop finish and glue dripping.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks for the tips!

[@dhoyt1967]

John, thanks for the video. I enjoy your content. I'm in the US and we are also affected by the virus, so you're right we are in this together. Stay safe and keep the videos coming. BTY, January 23rd is my birthday. So it was great to see you today. Blessings to you and your family.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Happy Birthday David hope you have a good one!

[@mortenheide1164]

I hope you are doing well despite everything that is going on The hand tool cabinet looks awesome😍

[@DW-ph2xg]

Well done John. Best of luck with your issues. I used to have an noisy shop vac, “never again”. I now use a Festool vac (26) for all my dust extraction for hand power tools. It is very quiet and strong. I always try for less noise. With regards to router table addition to your MFT. Nicely done! How do you use a mitre gauge when you are making cabinet doors with rails and styles?

[@floydwickenkamp3427]

For the vacuum hose that catches on everything, you might look at a "central vacuum hose sock". They sell these on E-bay and they're meant for use with central vac systems to keep the hose from catching on & marring furniture legs and mopboards. They come in 30' lengths for less than US$30.00. Believe it should fit over a 1.5" hose but haven't tried it myself. Really enjoy your channel!

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks for the tip

[@Nilsje]

This is it! Thanks!

[@barrieheard9426]

I got mafell track saw same track system. I got bench dogs fence with flag stop really good system. But the track dogs are a pain to remove the track and put it in. U can slide sheet materials under.

[@darrenobrien7179]

John I only found your channel at the beginning the first lockdown and I’m hooked. Great content and I’m a total novice. I’m just about finished a small workshop at the side of my house up in Navan. Can’t wait to set it up and get to work on some small projects. Thanks again and stay safe down there.

[@zaldyvar]

Great video, thanx for sharing

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks for watching!

[@michaelruss1742]

Hang in there John. My wife and I look forward to seeing more useful video for both sheds.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks 👍

[@barrywall3333]

Great channel John, only found it recently and have been binge watching. I'll be upgrading my shed to a steel model like yourself in the spring summer and will use plenty of ur ideas for sure. Keep it up! Keeping us all going.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Welcome along Barry

[@calumgannaway869]

Power to the tools on your bench. I have a power cord hanging over the middle of the bench. When plugged into this the tolls can reach all areas of the bench. The cord is about 600mm aboe the bench surface. cheers Calum

[@atrainace114]

Awesome vid. How about cord reels above the work table for power instead of electrical boxes all around the exterior of the table?

[@johnhuddle9448]

The negative 1 degree gives you a little play in your miters. In theory the gap will fall on the inside of the joint thus less visible. As theory goes if your not accurate in your measurements you can still achieve clean miters. I

[@jemo_hack]

Cheers amigo,, very nice video. yes the temp bridge is a major issue, I went through that on a container home I had. I ended up simply spraying Polyurethane foam on it to stop the condensation issues.

[@PaulSmith-rd8yc]

John your channel is great love it when it pops up notification John McGrath is done another KZbin video. Another awesome one and great product reviews again and issues. It’s weird times at this moment so we will all have to wait until you get videos made remember health and family always comes first. But please hurry up and get Facebook set up as I can’t use Instagram with my voice-over like to be able to comment on the stuff as well more that way to just be able to share photos easier for me what I get up to too. I reckon you should get out your sewing machine and make your own pipe sleeving it be another little asset to your shed

[@garryholmberg6502]

I'll be sticking with my shop vac and Home Depot Dust Stopper 5 gallon pail lid for a bit longer - maybe forever:(! That said, I don't know if available in Ireland, but the Oneida SuperCell really looked good to me when I was thinking about a serious dust collector. But the price point was just too high for the amount of woodworking I do. Still, maybe someday:). Thanks for the Bosch track saw info. Very helpful. I love the saw and tracks, but those issues you mentioned really take the joy out of owning the tool when you consider the cost. Still, I don't plan on getting a different saw, as forewarned is forearmed, and after watching your VLOG I am forearmed, so thank you!

[@handyjim]

you can get hose socks to cover your hose a lot cheaper than getting festool hose

[@Dmrdecs]

Big fan pointed to ceiling on low. Leave on whenever you are not there. Sorts the condensation.

[@rockyhancock7732]

Hey John, they make hose sleeves that will slip over the corrugated hose and help smooth it out. You can add the tool cord inside as well. Kind of a poor mans festool set up. I hope that helps. I found mine on Amazon.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks for the info

[@מעייןהמלבלבתחייםםםם]

Great vlog!!! Just bought the veritas mk2 honing guide ( using diamond stone) still learning how to use it tried it with my no.6 Luban and no.5 and no4 getting good results but... it's still new. For the bosch issue I'm checking all my power tools for 90 with engineered square all the time I don't trust the manufacturer set-up ( except my metabo mitre saw), and it's odd that bosch have got that issue with high hand tool!! For the condensetion broblem I'm thinking of two solutions : insulation to you metal ceiling, or dehydrated the air in your shop ( not chip solutions). In Israel we are at our 3rd curfew... tomorrow getting my second 💉 covid-19 vaccine. Be safe and stay strong, looking forward to your next content!!

[@ewan2mackinnon73]

Just purchased the same track saw, this video was very helpful. Great content all round.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Glad it was helpful!

[@three-phase562]

Good to see your channel is growing - well deserved in my opinion. I has a similar problem with the roof in my workshop on really cold days, it always seems to accumulate where the roof panel meets the purlin, guess it is just a limitation of the anti-drip fabric. In the end I installed insulation sheets between the purlins and then panelled the inside of the roof. Spray foam may be another option, not sure on costs though. For the dust extraction, I use the rockler hose system which is ribbed, but I use a v-roller clamped to the end of the bench or on a stand to stop it snagging. With a central workbench could you not come over the top with a suspended system and drop down? You could do that with the electrics as well, there are retractable extension leads available, do come at quite a price though.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Yeah I might just do that, I'm not a fan of extension leads the can cause Issues, I might do a video on the danger of using extension leads

[@scruffywuffy8009]

very useful GKT 55 info, look forward to benchdogs review.

[@katherineablett728]

Sorry to hear you’re feeling the COVID and Brexit over there. I just bought a Mafell plunge saw today after loads of research. I found your Bosch review and this video really helpful thanks! Just got to wait till Tuesday for the delivery now. I’ve finished my Matt Estlea cabinet now, it was such a good series. Would love to see yours finished too please? I’m about to start a tool cabinet now based on your design so thank you so much for the inspiration! Hang on in there, the light is getting closer!

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks Katherine, I must finish the cabinet I just need to fit the hinges. Best of luck with the tool cabinet.

[@katherineablett728]

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed good luck with the hinges. I don’t know if anyone else has said but the -1degree tilt is for when you’re doing a visible join, like counter tops, helps the join to be invisible as less material underneath to meet in the join. Hope that makes sense!

[@maloneycolin]

Hi John, Great advice on the tools, again. I don’t have a solution for the corrugated hose pipe for the vacuum, but I did put an extension on mine and it gives me great freedom. I draped the hose over 2 hooks in the ceiling so it hangs down. This usually stops it from catching on the table or work piece. I got old hoses from the council recycling center off old vacuums. If you have WiFi in you shed could you explain how it’s installed. I have a second router wired off my main router but it has never worked right. Seems like rocket science to me😡👍👍

[@randallthomas5207]

For sheathing the dust extractor hose, cover it with, “PET Expandable Braided Sleeving”. It should be available on Amazon, Ebay, or any number of other online sources. You want it for a slightly smaller diameter then the hose you will cover.

[@jeffk204]

I'll be interested to see your results with the t-nut dogs. I've tried them for my home made mft table and I found them to be so precise that the track easily gets jammed when trying to lower it and raise it between each cut, or if I loosen one up to allow it to move smoothly then the track drops level with the table and then you have to remember to use spacers to keep it from doing that. In the end it is just too finicky. So I'd love to see how it works for you and if you figure out to work around those issues. I love the videos and enjoy the content please keep all the great info coming!

[@bendemjohnny]

Well another great video! - I’m so glad you are honest about your tools, it’s a welcome change. I’m also glad to hear that you refuse to be controlled by manufacturers/sponsors. Thing is John, there are 1000’s of viewers who trust you (me included) as you strive to get your own perfect hobby workshop, a journey 1000’s of hobbyists are on, a journey that never seems to end!! So at the end of the day, you are one of us, just people in our sheds, striving for that perfect workshop, buying what we can afford. I bought the Veritas mkII/faithful diamond stones after watching one of your videos so I can see why manufacturers want you to promote their products, you are a very credible influencer. But control your videos ?? - I would be seething mad if I had bought any product after seeing a “controlled video” particularly if it had issues. Often tools do develop issues after a period of use and it’s great you are honest about what you find. I’m impressed with the Veritas Mk2 and if I eventually have to change the brass runners, I’m ok with that. Not a lot more to say other than I’ve run a hose from above for my hand power tools and (for me) it works great!! Finally, track saws........ I like the idea but there is no way I’d get rid off my Scheppach 2500 table saw!! Stay safe my friend, don’t get too friendly with the Whiskey! As you say, we’re all in the same boat & hopefully we will get through it.

[@mattinfante6982]

For what it's worth I've got the rail dogs and I find them incredibly frustrating to put in and out. There are rail clips that axminster do that sit in the festool/makita outer track and clip onto standard bench dogs. They're on my list to pick up in the next couple of weeks.

[@markarmstrong2592]

Cheers John i use the Veritas MK2 as well and wetstones

[@peterwilliams6188]

Great video John. I’m pleased you mentioned the Veritas honing guide. I’m new to woodworking and I bought a Veritas honing guide to help me. But with all the plane blades I’ve tried to sharpen, I get an edge which is on the slant. So the edge is not square. I assumed it was me doing something wrong. I have checked my set-up time and time again but the end result is the same. I will check the brass wheel to see if that is off centre. Look after yourself. I’m looking forward to the sharpening station build when you get time. Peter

[@brianharrigan8821]

YES !! every piece of equipment , power tool or even measuring devices, need to be tech checked before using !! Cheers........

[@mattdunsford8696]

Check out a hydraulic shop you can by a fabric sleeve to cover the hydraulic hoses. I used to use them on hose when I work for the Cat dealer. That would make the hose smooth and keep the hose from snagging. Just a thought. Cheers!

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks for the tip!

[@jamesmoore1532]

The extractor has a corrugated hose as a anti static feature. It's why you can't find a smooth hose. The only option is to sleeve over it.

[@papaeph6134]

Hi John - I used a length of "Expandable Braided Sleeving" from Ebay. It's only a few quid and I've found it to be a cheap method of improvement.

[@cuebj]

Having done a bit of environmental physics (primarily about crops in field), it's quite interesting to see how the different microclimates of the roof affect the internal dripping. Some relevance for agribusiness sheds with livestock or machinery or fodder storage

[@Jeff034]

From someone who has double pneumonia from shop dust, get the dust extractor OUTSIDE the shop. Knock up a lean to, and exhaust it outside the shed. Even my 2 micron didn’t stop the dust. It’s not worth it!!!!

[@markgeezey1809]

Hi John, Grand channel and I really look forward to the updates and love the whiskey channel as well🥃. I have a similar situation with my workshop/garage. I plumbed a dust extraction system to my mitre station and other tools on the bench using similar ducting to yourself and my dust extractor is the twin motor Camvac from Record power, and very similar to the DX4000. However my issue is also getting easy extraction to my central work bench, which has my table saw, router table and sanding base. Rather than buy another CamVac or DX4000, I was planning an up and over ducting connected to the CamVac and then attach a Rockler hose which easily attaches and detaches to a duct system in my workbench. Just by using blast gates I can then divert suction to the individual tools on the work bench. Have you thought about that solution rather than buying another dust extractor which can be expensive for a good one. I think the CamVac twin motor or DX4000 should easily be strong enough to give good suction? Or are separate systems better? Keep up the good work John one of the best channels for hobbyists. From half a paddy living in Sweden. 🍻😀 stay safe

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Might just run over head an see how it goes

[@markgeezey1809]

@@JohnMcGrathManInShed I am not trying to use you as the guinea pig John🤣, but if it works great. I’ve seen a few vids and seems good. But in reality is another thing. 🤞🤣

[@cuebj]

Been looking at track saws for a year. Skill Builder did a good survey. Severe health issues delayed go ahead but almost ready to buy to make lots of cabinets and wardrobes for self and friends with payments to cover tools and materials. The Bosch seems to suffer from being budget Mafell both in materials and quality control so it doesn't compete with Mafell. It's a pattern across all the brands - each one is good to best on some areas then fills out their range with products that they buy in and re-badge. We can't stick with one brand - which is ok for corded, not so good for cordless toolkits. That can mean buying from different suppliers if they focus on certain brands

[@robertpearce802]

I have the Benchdog rail dogs and I find that they can be difficult to pull in and out. If you can fit your Bosch tracksaw onto a Festool track then it would probably also fit onto Evolution tracks, which are much less expensive that Festool tracks. The FFX website has a chart showing that they are compatible with the Bosch GKS 55 GCE and GKS 65 GCE. A drawback of these tracks is that the Axminster UJK dog rail clips will not work with them as the required groove is on the bottom of the rail not the top, as is the case with the Festool rail. However, you seem to be happy just butting your track against the dogs and not attaching your track to the dogs.

[@ToolTalkCanada]

I just bought a Bosch track saw and wish I had seen your video before I made the purchase. First day doing some test cuts and I immediately noticed problems with the bevel scale. It doesn't return to zero and instead of stopping at 45 it stops just past 46. If I release the button to go to 47, the arrow goes right off the scale. I checked the angle of the blade to the base plate, and the stops do seem to be setup properly, but the bevel scale is completely unreliable. I also agree with you about the zero degree set screw resting on that piece of plastic. Definitely disappointing.

[@michaelplays2449]

Thanks for the video John. you made some great points in the video i bought the bosch track saw would have bought Festool but a lot of people think its under powered thanks again stay safe !!

[@michaelplays2449]

Hi John < just taught you might like to look at a review, on the you tube channel "wheres my pencil" if you are thinking of buying a Festool TS55 hope you fgind this useful , thanks for all youre content !

[@projectrebuild908]

Great video. Really need that today after laying paving in the snow. I dont know what its is called. But for your hose maybe you need a sky line to pull the hose higher so there is less friction. The sky line could slid on a rail and the line could be retractable like air lines in shops that use air tools. 👍

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thanks for the tips!

[@danreeves1172]

Hello from Australia John! Regarding dust collection research have a look at the woodworkforums dust collection area. Lots of great info but be prepared you’ll want to plumb your shop using 6in pipe and exhaust all your dust outside your shed. Stay Safe mate

[@roar40s]

Hi John, not sure if someone has already made this comment, you have very interactive viewers! The only thing you need to do to prevent the condensation is to ventilate. Get the air moving. Great content!

[@PaulSmith-rd8yc]

Have you tried the pipe use for ponds which is see-through which is quite strong

[@planespeaking]

A lot of people suspend their hoses from the ceiling to stop trips and catch ups

[@rowlandprinsloo7287]

Thanks John, I was one of the ten!! 😀. Great info and content

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Hope it helps

[@richardmcmahon7880]

Having the exact same issues with the condensation on a non drip roof.....really annoying. Thinking about spray foam insulation for the roof when weather dries up. Dont have that heavy duty sheet under the perspex sheeting, must look into that. Thanks john...keep up the good work. Richard, Sligo

[@joebulmer8725]

Great videos John I'm also in Waterford

[@planespeaking]

A lot of tools need setting up and they rarely put it in the instructions. I had the same issue with a metabo mitre saw

[@christophspielmann316]

I tried the dog with the T-Slot and my Bosch track, but it has too much play to be accurate. So I finally bought a Festool track for my Bosch tracksaw.

[@adhafer4542]

Thanks for the vid! I have the same tracksaw. Most of my tools are Bosch. It's so annoying because it has the potential to be sooo much better. Rails are amazing but wish they were slightly wider as you mentioned. The issue with the markings is not acceptable. I find that the plunge depth markings are also out by half a mm. The side of the saw is not flat and at the price it's at I really wish it had micro adjustment. Other than that it works great. If I were to buy again I'd probably get the festool!

[@cuebj]

Bosch being budget, lower grade version of Mafell seems to reason for its flaws - a range filler rather than a main product. Will affect my buying decision

[@chriswearn4000]

Hey john, I did a little research into the track saws and I ended up with the triton track saw. The little button on the Bosch put me off. The triton was also in my price range and it is superb. I would recommend all day long.

[@cuebj]

Thanks for this. Will influence my decision

[@stuartnurse9390]

I’ve been using Shapton stones as per Rob Cosman and find them to be great. Got their lapping plate rather than Trend and also prepare primary bevel on Tormek. Takes the stress out of sharpening!

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Thats a good set up

[@stuartnurse9390]

It’s great BUT water in Tormek kept freezing this morning!

[@brayworkshop427]

I think the extra power of the Bosch over the festool is not to be underestimated. I’d probably buy it again given the chance, but agree that some of features are not good enough for the price. I’d like to know if Mafell owners have the same problem. I’ve just started using bench dogs on the track, and find they’re a bit awkward. Thinking of buying the hinged part of the MFT table and modifying it for my bench and Bosch track.

[@randallthomas5207]

RE Dust Collector location: Put the collector outside under a shed roof next to the Pedestrian door, where your current piping ends. This makes the actual fine collection less critical, because it is outside the work area.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

When the weather improves I might just do that

[@davidhull1610]

You have definitely thought the dust extraction through, and having a dedicated machine for the downdraft table is a good idea. But for extracting from your portable power tools at the table, I would recommend having the hose suspended above the table on a swivelling arm or bungee cord....it's the only way to keep the hose away from the edges of the table and stop it catching. I tried a smaller record machine mounted under my workbench with a socket for the extractor hose on the table top...I also tried mounting it at the side of the table, but the hose was either too long or too short and mounting it overhead was the only solution to keeping it off the table and stop it hanging up. If you could get some fine panel filters and a good fan, why not try building a powered filter box under your sanding table area to make it fully self contained?

[@ChristopherClaudioSkierka]

Hi there, love your rant from another video but your Granddad was right . I am looking at this plunge saw for myself , but i am edging towards the festool plunge saw, do you with you had gone with that now rather than the Bosch one? ps i had same issue with my Makita track saw,,,then month later after farting about with my track by putting tape on it to alter the angle I too found a grub screw ,,,what a relief it was , i never smiled with joy so much - compensation for all the previous swearing. pss never been to Ireland, its a lovely place I should go over and you people are friendly :)

[@Annaisineire]

Great video John!!!

[@vjurco]

Thanks John - very good video. I would say Makita/Festool tracks are more suitable for this type of work (dogs). I am planning to buy 1000mm from Makita. Even more - one can use different (thicker) blades (Bosch has 1,.8mm kerf) without destroying rubber lip alignmnent. It is sometimes handy to use them. Re 90 deg alignment - I have no issue with scales but have had a problem with 90 and 45 deg alignment. I used inclinometr for this job. Just unscrew the top cover of blade, set the saw on the track and than align the angle of blade against the track. This works perfect - you have plenty of space around. You can even check if the angle does not change when you plunge-in - not to mention one can check if the blade is perfectly flat when mounted (should be - but from my experience it is not always true) . Most of all, once you fix the blade plunge position and saw position on the track I have both hands free to make any adjustment I need. Maffel can do this with a press of a button - with Bosch you have to unscrew 5 (or 6? I am not sure) easily accessible screws. It would be good if you have mentioned in your video that you can align 90deg as well as 45deg stops. Unfortunately out of the box both were misaligned by approx 0,5 deg. AFAIK 45deg stop cannot be set with Festool (only 90deg or go to service). Once the blade is aligned perfectly screw the cover back -and I found that scales were aligned perfectly as well. And repeatability switching between 90 and 45 degs was not a problem. It seems that checking the saw prior to first cut (as you said) is a good practice - especially when you ask for real precision. Vlad

[@ThekiBoran]

If it's not too late you might want to consider festool tracks if you're also in the market for parallel guides. The TSO parallel guides have a quick adapter that fits festool only. You basically just plop it down anywhere on the guide rail then pick it up when you're done. They can also be screwed to the guide rail if you prefer. It's a simple design and it makes breaking down sheet goods in a small shop less of a hastle.

[@vjurco]

@@ThekiBoran Thanks for tip ! BTW where lies the problem with rail compatibility FEST vs MAK - esp. with those parallel guides? That small rail lip which is on MAK and not on FEST?

[@ThekiBoran]

@@vjurco The only compatibility issue is with the quick adapters. To answer your question that's probably it, the anti tip lip. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raWro6SagcekfJY

[@ThekiBoran]

@@vjurco It could also be the overall shape of the makita, so trying to make it work might be a fruitless endeavor.

[@vjurco]

@@ThekiBoran Thanks again. Seems that this "anti tip lip" might be a problem. So far I´ve heard that apart from some special adapters for FEST both rails are fully compatible

[@heriothandyman3148]

Get yourself some pilosil or “braided” sleeving. VDC do all sizes you can think of. Then not sure if you come across it much in your domestic work, but try powercon connectors, for attaching bench. That or ceeform, but the later are obviously pretty bulky.

[@cuebj]

Interesting about Bosch track. Local brilliant power tool shop recommends it as best price performance balance though they have Mafell, Makita, DeWalt, Hikoki on display and can get anything else

[@northroadwoodwork8616]

Hope you are making it through over there. Strange times indeed. Insulation is the only sure remedy for that condensation, if that were in my locale, your shop would be a rainforest. I Enjoy your content and hope that you continue to create success in your endeavors in 2021. Cheers

[@tonyw8529]

Hi John, like the content as usual always honest reviews. Very interested in how you plumb your bench down draft table in as this is something I’ve been thinking about doing to see if it makes that much difference. Also really pleased to hear your only going to be involved in possible sponsors which relate to the channel, some of the others You-tubers I watch who are sponsored by video games, glasses or coffee have got me turning them off so please stay true to your principles.

[@markpope6162]

Hi John, Just a quick thought about your router box. Why not connect it into the dust collection system you’re planning for the MFT bench? Stay safe. Best wishes, Mark

[@davidwilburn6314]

I was hoping to source some ideas on how to work with rips of more narrow stock, i.e. anything less than about 4"/8cm. Those widths are not clamp-able by the Bosch clamping system and I've had to niggle around a bit to come up with a makeshift method. Not seeing anyone with a KZbin title that addresses this issue.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Another great vlog John 😁. Just quickly on the dust extraction for your MFT, couldn't you go for drop down hoses? You are already half way there!. You could T in to your main "cross shop" pipe with a short outrigger pipe and then drop a single hose down to your table. Have a single connection on your table piped for the router and the downdraft, with an additional connection for a fly hose for the track (and cleanup) ! That way the Record never has to leave it's place by the door... it could work 🤔. Thanks for the video, stay safe 😁👍

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Might just look at that Frank

[@seancrowley7520]

If Bosch fits festool track, it will fit Makita track. I think they are less expensive.

[@addnet4]

Try expandable braided flexible cable sleeving - polyester, available in various sizes on eBay

[@Ishmaler4]

Have you checked out Ron Paulks workbench