World's Oldest Photographs - Part 1

[@kaloarepo288]

The history of sound recording is also very interesting -apparently the first recording (arguably) dates right back to about the 1790's when the great Austrian composer Josef Haydn had part of one of his symphonies engraved on a cylinder and the composer personally supervised its creation -making it effectively the first music recording ever.

[@fan2jnrc]

Never heard or read anything about this story and I searched in vain. Do ypu have a source for that? The oldest music recording ever known is by Scot de Martainville in 1857.

[@BlazeMaster]

I don't know if it fits the criteria for an recording, sound that an artist creates artificially through engraving it on some material is actually more closer to transcription, a record is when the transcription is authentically done through your voice and an needle that recreates the hole in the patterns provided by actual audio instead of a composer merely drawing graphical representations of Mechanical components and their placement which could be decyphered by a software and re created, and the first actually recorded sound was the famous AUN De luna song from 1860's. Also a recording plays back once generated audio, but a transcription generates new audio each time it's played like a musical box mechanism using the graphical representations and software capable of assigning each sound to each symbol kinda like a human would play the musical notes which you could probably also do with artificial intelligence nowadays as well... Now the program can recreate the exact sound of the instrument used by the composer even as far as thousands years ago, but it merely generates that sound from information it obtained via a transcript. It's similar to computer music or how files in computer aren't actually records but just lines of codes that generate the sound or image were seeing on the monitor, it's always a new image generated from a set of lines but we call it recordings because they originated from such.

[@thehonkytonkduck2270]

@@fan2jnrc kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4Pdan2ZhMaNrZY here is a good recap of it

[@TheStockwell]

The contraption you're referring to operates more like a music box or a player piano than an actual recording device. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4Pdan2ZhMaNrZY It is in no way a machine which records music. You really have to stretch - to the point of destroying - the definition of recording to consider the "Haydn organ" a recording device.

[@mimsredjelly]

It's obvious why Daguerreotype was the system that took off, the image quality it so vastly better than all the others

[@anak5271]

Thank you for this, I love looking at old photos, they are truly a glimpse into the past. It's a pity there were not more early photos of people and famous faces

[@edwardanthony7283]

Almost 200 years but so much history wasn't pictured!

[@victorcontreras3368]

Very good display into the pass! Much appreciated 👍

[@ninaverenac7266]

Thank you so much, beautiful collection.

[@missingtho8353]

We were so close to receiving a photograph of napoleon only 2 years apart

[@finchborat]

And the window was open to get a picture of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

[@TheStockwell]

. . . and Beethoven, who died in 1827.

[@barrymoore4470]

@@finchborat Both men's sons lived long enough to be photographed.

[@johnliddy2583]

I love it. Thank you.

[@arago8649]

Glad you like it!

[@JimPigMuseumOfSound]

These photos are beautiful

[@francapascoe7822]

Thanks for the privilege of seeing such history keep up the good work

[@chitoflores9607]

Anybody else pissed at the fact that Niepce spent more time taking photos of engravings rather than actual views of the world? 😂

[@johnhopper8350]

yes, that was my thought too.

[@olivierb9716]

it was experimentations. i'm pissed about bad flores

[@dopeblacktherapist]

Feel silly for asking, but what is a heliograph and how does it differ from a photograph?

[@arago8649]

It's the name for Niepce's first photographic process

[@jec1ny]

Heliography... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliography

[@jerrywestermann4435]

And everybody thinks selfies are a recent phenomenon.

[@bettywiendels5714]

Wow!! Nicephore Niepce and Louis Jacques Mande Daguerre were such brilliant inventors!! If not for them, modern photography today would probably have not existed. Interestingly, the photography and the cameras were first invented long before other inventions of bicycles, telephones, automobiles, planes, radios, movies, televisions, rockets, microwaves, computers and so on. Many thanks to such awesome inventors for making our lives much easier and more entertaining!! 👏👏👏

[@teijaflink2226]

It feels really mindblowing that so many things where invented in less than 100 years. Maybe one invention helped the others to be invented too and maybe the industrual revolution and a better life quality for more people played a part too, regular people could do more than just think about where the next meal would come from.

[@cherylpurdue888]

Great photos for the time🙂

[@enriquefau8974]

9:24 This picture is vertically flipped. The equestrian statue of King Charles I has its right leg up in real life, and not its left one as in the picture. I found this out because I was trying to see if the buildings photographed still exist today (spoiler, no they don't). Anyways, it's just a little trivia for those interested. Thanks for uploading

[@Artaxbozzim]

emozionante...... grazie!!

[@2101case]

I love these. One thing that struck me at 4:08 is that in this rather vast photo, the only signs of life are the bootblack and his customer.

[@countalma9800]

Because they were the only ones not moving for a minute or so. Everything that was moving (people, horses) could not be captured by camera.

[@randomfighterplane169]

NICE VIDEO!!

[@arago8649]

Thanks!

[@morsecode980]

To put it in perspective, when the View from the Window at Le Gras was taken: • France‘s ruler was King Charles X of the restored Bourbon dynasty, which hadn’t been in power since the Revolution. • The Napoleonic Wars had only been over for a little over a decade. Napoleon himself had only been dead for about 5 years. • The current American President was John Quincy Adams. The Democratic Party was in its infancy and hadn’t won an election yet, while the Republican Party did not yet exist, and wouldn’t for another 30-ish years. Some of the Founding Fathers were still alive. • Latin America was in the midst of gaining independence from Spain and Portugal. • The Middle East was still almost entirely controlled by the Ottoman Empire, the country that conquered the Eastern Roman Empire over 3 centuries prior. • Africa had not yet been colonized beyond slave trading outposts along its coastlines. • China was still ruled by the Qing dynasty, which had ruled it since the 1600’s and would continue to until 1910.

[@JaredtheRabbit]

So, I take it these self-portraits are the earliest selfies.

[@dansmith6748]

very impressive.. thanks!

[@BamberdittoPingpong]

In just under a month photography will be approximately exactly 200 years old

[@ZimbaZumba]

Amazing!

[@virginiacook2724]

Could you please print in a larger type.its very hard to read.

[@SSRG3107]

Was Robert Peel ever photographed? He died in 1850. I can't find any photograph of him.

[@arago8649]

Wikipedia states that "Peel was the first serving British Prime Minister to have his photograph taken.", although I can't find it online

[@SSRG3107]

@@arago8649 that's why I raised this question

[@MacJaxonManOfAction]

@@SSRG3107 Yeah, this has bothered me for years actually. I can't find Peel's photograph anywhere either. Although I have seen Wellington's. Maybe he was indeed photographed but it was lost or the plate damaged? Also Charles Dickens had a daguerreotype taken circa 1841, I'd love to see a photographic image of the young Dickens rather than the older, bearded one. It seems to have been lost, too.

[@cancergurl6998]

Imagine people 300 years from now looking at our photos as old and wondering what all the duck lips are about. 😗🦆

[@mauriceschaeffer5070]

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[@Lardenoy]

Vraiment fascinant et émouvant : contemporain des Romantiques...

[@misaelescobarruiz1193]

Sorprendente

[@grayciesmom5807]

Why is the font too small to read????

[@edeliteedelite1961]

You just have poor eyesight.

[@fokiat]

2:43 and 6:06 those look very much alike

[@Monomakh]

That William Fox Talbot was actually pretty disappointing.

[@TheStockwell]

His early experiments were him just monkeying around with preserving images. His later work, after Daguerre's announcement, was quite good and included inventing the negative/positive process which became THE photographic process for a century and a half until digital photography was invented.

[@МихаилСпицын-б4я]

200 лет...

[@thomaszaccone3960]

Are these the oldest images KNOWN or the oldest SURVIVING images ?

[@arago8649]

Oldest surviving, not always oldest known

[@bobli9037]

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[@alain8747]

Le moindre des respect serait de traduire en Français puisque Nicéphore Niepce était Français ainsi que les frères Lumière inventeurs du cinématographe!!!

[@williamjordan5554]

So unimaginative. Surely, someone could have photographed a sleeping, still person early on.

[@2101case]

Some guys in the 1830's tried something that no other homo sapiens had apparently tried in 200,000 years of existence, and you call them unimaginative!

[@RandomVidsforthought]

What a stupid comment

[@TheStockwell]

Let me guess: your own channel has no content or uploads, so you're required to sneer at the efforts of people who actually accomplished things. 🤔

[@Stake2]

Interesting how Americans wanted to subvert the contemporary view that photograph degrades its object in comparison to painting and sculpture. I think it symbolizes the U. S. democratic individualism and is a sort of precursor to Facebook etc.

[@Stake2]

@Joe Guajardo But they used to. I'm drawing from a scholar, J. H. Van Den Berg.

[@castheeuwes1085]

Have you ever been on Facebook?

[@seanryan8680]

The photo camera was invented in 1816 approximately

[@randydelaney7053]

These are paintings not Photographs.

[@arago8649]

Those are photographic copies of engravings, so they still count as photographs

[@barrymoore4470]

@@arago8649 From what I understand, they were made without a camera, with the engravings made chemically photosensitive and then impressed upon plates which transferred the images through sunlight. They are closer to photograms than photographs in the later sense (that is, images from nature captured and preserved through a camera obscura).

[@giondolos]

Great job!

[@arago8649]

Thanks!