What happens if you resize non-resizable apps using AutoHotkey in different versions of Windows?

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[@astroxxie]

what are you expecting? the Easter egg will pop out?

[@AltonTRU]

hahah

[@star80doessdastuff]

no, bugs and funny visual effects

[@viceversaanimates7398]

Longest egg hunt ever

[@soundspark]

@@star80doessdastuff In many cases it isn't all that buggy because the window has a fill color the OS automatically paints on its background. UI duplication of the Snipping Tool may be due to having a specific VRAM allocation.

[@World_of_OSes]

It was interesting doing it with the Metro apps in Windows 8.1, and with the system UI on all of Windows versions.

[@markusTegelane]

The metro stuff resizes correctly, because it's designed to work with multiple screen resolutions, which is basically the same thing as resizing, but for the whole screen if you think about it

[@teamredstudio7012]

In windows 10, the Metro apps run in a Metro mode (you can see a button that acts as replacement charms bar and a full screen button in the title bar) and they can be resized just fine. Also stardock made a program that lets you run Metro apps in windowed mode on Windwos 8 using some DWM trickery.

[@markusTegelane]

@@teamredstudio7012 I remember seeing KZbin videos about that program, but I never used it, because I ran Windows 7 until July 2015, which is when Windows 10 came out

[@ThatRandomToast]

@@teamredstudio7012 That can be seen in WinRT (not Windows RT) apps, such as City Art Search.

[@CrysisVN]

so pretty much they already made it to be resizeable, they just disabled it for you to do it purposefully right? thats pretty cool

[@Galaxy.Windows]

@@teamredstudio7012 you can run metro apps in a window in Windows Technical Preview

[@JoaquinVacas]

I really enjoyed how much smooth Win8.1 was. Even had it on a 2GB Intel Atom cheap tablet and I was amazed on how good it was.

[@mwew_n3ptune311]

Same with early Windows 10 versions Went from 1511 to 1607, it's fast and probrably even more lightweight than Windows 7. 1703 and 1709, maybe slightly less so (still really smooth), went back to Windows 7 after a Windows Update failure, then upgraded to Win10 1909. It went to hell and back. Went to Windows 7 again due to OpenGL problems. Software is artifically refusing to launch for older Windows 10 versions, even if they run under Windows 7... Even worse so for Windows 8.0. Would run 1511/1709 if I could. Since Windows is assiocated with PCs, when Windows 12 comes around and does a bunch of bad things, more apps will only be avaliable through mobile and with websites forcing 2FA Authenticator and banks requiring SMS, by this point why use a PC.

[@98SE]

@@mwew_n3ptune311 You can still run Windows 10 1511 and 1607 with the LTSB releases, they receive security updates for 10 years! :)

[@petrlaskevic1948]

​@@mwew_n3ptune311Windows 10 1809 broke a pot of stuff, incl metro apps, 21h1 got decent

[@monad_tcp]

​@@mwew_n3ptune311why use a PC? Because you use it instead of the other way around. It using you. Fuck all mobile apps.

[@Galaxy.Windows]

@@mwew_n3ptune311 i use 1507. its verry light but has worst compatability than 8.1

[@DanielClear2]

So Windows 8 fiasco could've been easily avoided by having a smaller Start screen on left bottom, like any other Start menu.

[@ThatRandomToast]

Only if the power button is added early.

[@n8lldaemon]

I mean, it’s design is good, but not at that time. Take MacOS and GNOME as an example, they provides a semi-fullscreen experience too.

[@LiuWoods]

I remember seeing a screenshot from Stardock [?] showing a program that basically did exactly that (probably Start8 or something like that). It was probably as simple as "start on boot, when Explorer loads, resize the Start screen's window".

[@homemadesuperstar796]

Windows 10

[@SOTP.]

you got unpinned rip

[@Nathan123Bhi8]

Nice attention to detail on the Windows key!

[@tomjensen327]

No one EVER uses that key😢!

[@faqihudinn]

Request: How the print test page looks like in different OSes?

[@World_of_OSes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIXJkpSYoqeAgKs

[@mjdevlog]

this feels like we're unlocking a hidden room in a game where the devs didn't intended it to be accessible

[@Lampe2020]

I think sidebar didn't crash in Win7, it was just hidden behind the resized window, so Alt+Tab or closing the resized window would have brought control back to the sidebar program.

[@ranchocommodorereef]

10:01 Woah, I love that large gadget window on Windows 7 with all of that Aero transparency all around the big window.

[@saltcutep]

Windows 8 could be a great OS if they just make the Metro start 70% size in the center and add some Gaussian blur around it

[@_kitaes_]

Pointless

[@saltcutep]

@@_kitaes_ True but it would be much less bad

[@_kitaes_]

@@saltcutep HOW

[@ThatRandomToast]

At least add the power button like what they did with KB2919355 for Windows 8.1.

[@dimitar.bogdanov]

@@saltcutep The metro start isn't bad at all. You interact with it for a couple of minutes per day. Why does that matter so much?

[@thisathema]

2007 was calling. It says they want their video back.

[@World_of_OSes]

kzbin.info/aero/PLeegUyey4_z0JsQ9rjwiJrgEF4UwRvF67

[@BombMapping]

hi im 2007 and thank you @@World_of_OSes

[@chandlerbing7570]

Your point is?

[@iamwithalpacas]

schwanz

[@Tethrarxitet]

​@@World_of_OSestell them they cant take you alive

[@lmnk]

Cool video. By the way, you can resize non-resizable windows (as well as showing programs that don't have windows, hiding programs that have them and so on -- I think this could make a neat video as well) simply using Windows C++ library :P

[@grass6317]

Underrated channel, Subscribed!

[@grandtheftauto1233]

You can also maximize any non resizable window with task manager - right click - maximize

[@World_of_OSes]

I did that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnOuhKmsfNyAY68

[@ArduinoTurkBatu]

video idea: what if you resize to a negative number? or a number that below the minimum/maximum size of the window?

[@Ed.E]

Window size can't be negative, it's an unsigned integer which means it can only be a positive whole number

[@ArduinoTurkBatu]

@@Ed.E but what if we resize to a negative number, like the system crashes or something else?

[@Ed.E]

@@ArduinoTurkBatu it won't work, there's no way to do it but if you were to try then think: say -2 as a signed integer in binary is 110 (the first one determines its negative then the following numbers is the actual number) then instead of it being seen as -2, it'll be taken literally as binary 110 which is 6

[@narenchris711]

can you make video about how different os handles low battery

[@imarealwitch1154]

Man... I miss Windows 8 so much. I actually liked how it looked

[@Odswietny]

I have used it in a VM for a while and I liked it.

[@Galaxy.Windows]

@@Odswietny i have Windows 8.1 on my laptop. its almost an full year from 8.1 end of support. 10/01/2024 will be the day when an year passted from 8.1 EOS. (2023 is bullshit)

[@cirkulx]

unironically the metro start looks really good while scaled like that

[@gizmo2917]

so just win 10's start

[@gapp8163]

If it's possible, what happens when you resize LogonUI?

[@SOTP.]

or the oobe

[@c猫t]

11:19 Like in Windows 8.1, 10, and 11, the logo at the top of *winver* and of the shutdown *dialoge* gets duplicated.

[@ratishone1]

DI👾LOGE

[@smf53]

Is there an AutoHotkey script that can make the Start Screen not fullscreen, like in this video, but in the corner?

[@World_of_OSes]

Yes, you can adjust the size and position by changing the numbers in the AutoHotkey script.

[@DanielClear2]

Start8 should be able to do this natively.

[@smf53]

@@World_of_OSesI did that, and now I am happy.

[@Odswietny]

Next video proposal: "What happens if you minimize non-minimizable apps using AutoHotkey in different versions of Windows?" (if minimalization is avaliable in AutoHotkey...)

[@ThatRandomToast]

You can actually do it with Task Manager (except certain apps shown in Windows 8.1+ in "What happens if you run explorer.exe from the login screen in different versions of Windows").

[@DanielClear2]

Most apps (if not all) just minimize/hide. You also cannot interact with ones that hide themselves in taskbar/task switcher. The ones that doesn't minimize by clicking the taskbar icon again are misconfigured by not listening to window manager minimize call. They can always call it themselves tho (like Spotify).

[@ivancomp_inside]

2:41 multitasking with Metro... That's Windows 10 UWP

[@vladyslavkryvoruchko]

What about pressing numpad 5 on the normal desktop? Like desktop is just explorer, so will resizing the desktop reveal what human eyes were not supposed to see?

[@davr1]

The desktop consists of multiple layers, the uppermost is just a transparent explorer window (literally called "folder view" if you were to enable the titlebar), under that there's a WorkerW window that displays the wallpaper, and underneath that is a Program Manager window that cannot be manipulated (this also displays the wallpaper but it might just be a visual glitch)

[@Galaxy.Windows]

lol. the desktop is the Program Manager

[@LeonAlkoholik67]

There's an error in the video. You are installing v2 of AutoHotkey, but you write the script in v1.1 syntax, which makes the script incompatible for anyone who's copying the code 1:1 for v2.

[@World_of_OSes]

If you run an AutoHotkey v1.1 script using AutoHotkey v2, it automatically downloads AutoHotkey v1.1.

[@_IceCreamBunny_]

@@World_of_OSes what is "num 5"? is it a combination of number lock and F5?

[@Nathan123Bhi8]

​Numpad 5 maybe

[@Mats_Games]

I watched this immediately when it’s published

[@JinSeKuv_kanal]

I too

[@technotech17]

Me too

[@faqihudinn]

Me 2

[@jopa19991]

It just basically means that standard non-resizable apps implement WM_PAINT message in absolute coordinates which is fine for the default UI.

[@mariocamspam72]

Vague knowledge flex for no reason

[@jopa19991]

@@mariocamspam72go explain cleaner 🤔

[@playerkiller011]

What happens when you resize a window running in exclusive fullscreen?

[@qoombert]

gadgets are made with html. "Gadgets are lightweight HTML and script-based applications that provide the abillity to derive and present information or functionality from a variety of sources, such as local applications and controls, or websites and services. Developers with experience authoring webpages will find the process of creating a gadget very familiar."

[@SOTP.]

honestly native windows arent interessting when they resize like 95% of the time, only when its a special menu its interessting or very rarecases like osk or some programs that dont scale correctly but at least u can draw on the background:)

[@SOTP.]

also u should have resized stuff like oobe or logonui

[@TS2021_ME]

Sotp!!!!

[@SOTP.]

@@TS2021_ME yes sotp

[@hainesnoids]

Autohotkey? Nah, Scott’s window resizer is where it’s at

[@latviaballmanikmanik]

World of OSes : скачивает AutoHotkey Логика физика и здравый смысл : не убивайте прошу

[@gamingcorner107]

what is the music called at the beginning part of windows 10 and (the end part before you moved onto win10) the end of windows 8? and can you give me a link to the music i love it

[@World_of_OSes]

Approaching Nirvana - Keystone kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2PHamaEZtKGec0

[@UltraCenterHQ]

This is the type of thing you would randomly think about while going to sleep

[@Wenhao_yt]

When you mess up with windows....

[@LeonAlkoholik67]

AutoHotkey ftw

[@Dezo365]

What Happens If Startup Fails In Different OS?

[@nittani.]

Welp time to make a better wm than any other wm out there

[@blueexnetic]

Bro what is your bitrate it's so visible, it genuinly felt like i was looking at an actual windows xp installation running on my pc

[@leavemealone95]

4:53 yay

[@herbcookie-ux1qr]

it's kinda cool btw😛

[@Lurmog]

Hey, do you have Discord by any chance? i would like to discuss a better alternative for that

[@RimiFakhri]

i have discord!

[@gabrielv.4358]

Awesome video

[@PalmarAtol95205]

You can do this by maximizing them using task manager

[@World_of_OSes]

I did that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnOuhKmsfNyAY68

[@sumlittleguy]

What if you try to resize the DESKTOP? What will hapen then?

[@World_of_OSes]

Nothing

[@sumlittleguy]

@@World_of_OSes sad

[@ratishone1]

script name: app-resizing-script shortcut=numpad5 area-to-resize=1280_800 direction-to-move=center create script

[@andreach3266]

Unresizable/unmaximizable apps can be maximized by just using the default task manager in windows instead of autohotkey

[@crapsist2013]

Nice.

[@granitium]

Make short video maybe you try doing the same but Windows 10 1803 older builds

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

I do not get the Dash Window though.

[@JessicaFEREM]

You know i wouldn't mind if the start menu was open in the middle of the screen. but then again that just turns windows 8 into windows 10 with less polish

[@slayy_wali8004]

do i change the file extension of the ahk file??????????????

[@schockocraft4897]

wait in windows 8.1 in the paint color selection window there is an additional button appearing in the out-of-bounds, or at least the left end of a button. does that do anything?

[@user-ep1gz3fk1l]

2:33 looks better than was

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

Those are not called Gadgets and were removed because of a security flaw with them. They had a different name for them, Widgets.

[@vlOd_yt]

No? They are called gadgets, you Apple fanboy, but yes, they were removed due to a security vulnerability

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@@vlOd_yt I mean I have been using Windows since before Windows 98 days. You don't know anything about me nor Windows to be talking shit like that...

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@Computer_User_EC611 It was said by Microsoft so if you want proof just research it. No point on making a video on something that is over 10 years old...

[@andremckenna2007]

It's already possible to maximize un-maximizable windows with task manager

[@Artafp6003]

What version of windows you use ? how much ram cpu and hard disk?

[@Galaxy.Windows]

10:28 that song makes me feel like sad because makes me remember nice memories and i cry because there are gone. anyway, how i get that song

[@World_of_OSes]

Jeremy Blake - Sunspots kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX27hXafhbV4mJY

[@AzzyDrezzy]

well.. That was interesting, lol

[@AryzenI]

I really miss Windows 8/8.1

[@lowykgt]

Wow

[@Ograws]

Windows 8. It's been a while

[@ShaggyCZ]

Windows 8/8.1 hate could've been avoided if they kept the Start button and the Win7 Start menu style

[@Julian20YT]

can you please do the login screens

[@introverted.magic.shifters]

do a video on what do alarms/timers sound like on operating systems? (it will be a fail)

[@m2macbookpro]

Out of curiosity, how much VMs do you have?

[@World_of_OSes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/apTJmJuKZtGsrbM

[@leavemealone95]

Love 3:42

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

Restart Explorer no longer a thing, but you can still restart it. Faster method is to use a bat file.

[@World_of_OSes]

?

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@@World_of_OSes Task Manager does not have restart button. Or the talk about bat file?

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@@World_of_OSes Did you pin my comment just to have everyone attack me for being right?

[@karler511]

help,how to fix search bar

[@ItzNooben]

2:33 windows 8.1 start menu installer 💀

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

Clicking on advanced mode on Char Map does resize it, just not freely by the user. Jk and I am an OG AHK method coder. I use this to make my own games and software that can shut down games. I even made malware using this.

[@BitchiliciousIvy]

I want your next video to see which windows version supports Minecraft

[@the_smart_waterbear1234]

I knew AutoHotkey was an app!

[@pmcpicto]

I don't need sleep. I need answers.

[@Lofote]

But... has nothing to do with the operating system, it is only how the actual program handles it.

[@antrix2107]

interesting...

[@theloststarbounder]

Try with search too, I am sure that it's still a window.

[@winexperiments]

He did it at 6:22 and 8:56

[@nexboygaming]

Yes.

[@leonidasburtoncoolcreates_1234]

Help. Stefan just broke logic.

[@TBRHS]

2:33 Wind8

[@WindowsSeven7601]

It’s dialog or dialogue, not dialoge.

[@Voiidyisbored]

Same

[@SzymekCSC]

How about Windows 7 calculator on Windows 10?

[@phonl1]

Windows 10 LTSC includes classic calculator since they removed a lot of UWP apps I think copying calculator from that version to normal Windows 10 might work

[@phonl1]

Winaero also provides an installer for classic calculator

[@World_of_OSes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2bQpISGaJeYp7c

[@Tamay.]

Windowify the metro start menu and resize it

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

There is a reason why Microsoft removed the charms. And according to Microsoft that isn't charms in your video.

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@edwardcapuyan0611_user-pc Windows 8 is outdated is why it still uses that for one and two it isn't really charms. Charms been removed due to a security flaw that allows hackers into your system. Windows 8 is no longer supported. I never said I work at Microsoft you idiot troll. Learn to read or better yet learn how to Google. Asking for proof twice in a row proves that you a4re a troll trying to start shit over facts. Update your weak system before you get your self hacked by 0d4y or Spam404 or worst.

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

You already said that line a moment ago, Repeating scripts?

[@World_of_OSes]

?

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@@World_of_OSes Watch your video

[@n.park1]

That small windows 8.1 start menu should have been in the actual release, it's so cool

[@ati4ngames]

next video: what happens if you open the start menu in different windows

[@World_of_OSes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5ysg3aoobutatk

[@s5ehype]

What do you think😂😂

[@JacobKinsley]

LMAOOOO bruh using the autohotkey v1 syntax

[@fridayfunkgaming291offical]

because they never updated it

[@granitium]

Nircmd does the same

[@GuynamedMrBitch]

2at is dis?

[@janjana3970]

Can you Resize AutoHotkey with AutoHotkey?

[@itzyamiha]

i love the part where it goes youre hyoure aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

Are you sure that is a 1280x800 area? Could be 720. Jk

[@Malachi_real]

what the code to resize it?

[@World_of_OSes]

github.com/StefanGrace/ResizeApps

[@eggrobo]

do you still use windows 8.1?

[@chri-k]

9:37 i hope that’s not your real email address

[@World_of_OSes]

It's only a throw-away one that I made for that Windows 11 VM.

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

That isn't called Win32 apps.

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@Computer_User_EC611 That's not the case. You should research how computers works. Or research how to AHK.

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

They are not really called UWP Apps.

[@Ed.E]

Then what are they called

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@@Ed.E AppX apps. Not many people knows this though. The X is for 10 just like the Windows version.

[@Ed.E]

@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris AppX is just a packaging format and tool, like .msi. The actual platform is called UWP.

[@ThatRandomToast]

@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris What's a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app? - UWP applications | Microsoft Learn

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

@@ThatRandomToast You are just saying the letters as if they are the meaning of the full words... And yet still says noting about what it is, shows how much you even know to be talking shit. You even know what that does? All you said so far is the words and letters, the letters twice in the same comment. That shows nothing on you knowing what it is so you can't be telling anyone to learn it. I mean damn dude my grandpa created the IBM logo but I can't prove it just the same as you can't prove that my grandpa didn't do it. Clearly you don't understand how the internet works.

[@justinwright2792]

JJ! what? WE NEED TO TALK!😡 😭