I had a whole part of the video that I cut for time where I mentioned trying to include EVERY contract of $100+ million is extremely hard since there's no one source with all those contracts and extensions and that I probably missed a few. After the video was posted, I definitely did miss a few... Matt Cain should be #3. Inflation adjusted contract was $115.7 million. Accumulated -1.7 WAR. Total of -$68 million per WAR. David Wright should be at #8 with 7 years, $149.2 million, got 2.7 WAR, for a total of $55.3 million per WAR. As far as others that have commonly come up in the comments... Jason Heyward - #16 8 years, $185 million, 8.9 WAR, $20.8 million per WAR. Jacoby Ellsbury - #23 7 years, $160 million, 9.9 WAR, $16.2 million per WAR Johan Santana - #34 6 years, $179 million, 15.5 WAR, $11.6 million per WAR Others not eligible for JUST being under $100 million... Jason Bay, BJ Upton, Pablor Sandoval, Hanley Ramirez Not eligible for including arbitration years... Yoenis Cespedes
@FunkinItUp082 жыл бұрын
Vernon Wells? 7 years $124 Million, somehow traded twice on that awful contract.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
@@FunkinItUp08 Vernon Wells - #14 7 years, $153.6 million, 6.8 WAR, $22.6 million per WAR.
@michaelmeatheringham3122 жыл бұрын
For whatever it's worth, the Angels television contract(s) allow them to be the great attractor of hideous contracts.
@FunkinItUp082 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead right on, knew he’d be close. Love all the videos and keep up the great work.
@Jaztec352 жыл бұрын
Eric Hosmer to the Padres/Red Sox (mostly the Padres since they're paying for most of it) is going to be up there when that contract finishes up. Dude was atrocious on offense and defense in his time here.
@GoombaGuy19962 жыл бұрын
Months after Mo Vaughn's tirade. The Angels won the 2002 World Series, with Troy Percival closing out many high leverage situations, including two series clinchers.
@4thand32 жыл бұрын
Then they ruined Trouts career
@txbill25122 жыл бұрын
Maybe so but Mo was spot on. He'd done a lot more than any of the Angels players ever had. Percival should have just kept his mouth shut. I applaud Moreno for spending money but the Angels have a terrible front office.
@KazeShikamaru2 жыл бұрын
Then are finding ways to waste Ohtani's career though.
@Peter-ok9bj2 жыл бұрын
@@KazeShikamaru Othani should be gone by next year if he isn't traded.
@KazeShikamaru2 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-ok9bj yup.
@Farticus7312 жыл бұрын
Jason Heyward's contract was a hefty price for a decent glove in right field and a motivational speaker...
@JohnSmith-ld2mc2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised not to see him on the list
@ChiCubsRule1 Жыл бұрын
He should be number 1. Worst FA signing in league history. Most expensive hooker ever. $184 million to suck d*ck
@Farticus731 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely up there, but he was really good defensively, and (just to be the devil's advocate here) I'm not sure if you can put a price tag on breaking the curse. That game 7 was a roller coaster.
@TG-ld8hl Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was gonna say. Every Cubs fan would’ve voted to have that money added to their taxes if you guaranteed it would end the streak
@necron99.aka-sammyboy92 Жыл бұрын
" decent glove"!! He had a 5 out a 6 year gold glove streak! And...AND. J Wood has a 4th or 5th outfielder spot on the Dodgers right now cuz of his gold glove mainly. Tho, he has a new ish swing I'm spring training so far, hitting off of Gonsolin and Julio Urais deep n well , while rest of dodgers r striking out everywhere off of em. It's been a pitchers game so far in LAD spring training inter squad games. - " it's a good day for baseball...."! - Vin Scully RIP, you beautiful man you! He was the one guy who every team and every fan loved as much as the dodgers almost. Every team honored him this year when going to LA. Even Giants skip- Gabe Kaplan said:. Weather you love or HATE the Dodgers, you Love Vin Scully. And, the entire family of baseball will be worse off without him". That is a lot coming from a rival and Dodher hater!!
@jesusquicksaves Жыл бұрын
God, that clip of Howard tearing his Achilles on the groundout still haunts me. I’m so happy we just added playoff memories
@Ethan_Coble Жыл бұрын
Damn, He didn't even mention the Vernon Wells 126m contract with the Angels either... Us Angels fans are praying for the day that Arte finally sells the team 😭
@tristandallyn6044 Жыл бұрын
Blue jays legend
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
Arte isn’t the one making these moves, the front office decides what happens
@dirtymike3329 Жыл бұрын
Haven’t heard that name in a while. Vernon wells was solid but I don’t remember his time on the angels
@unclejuan2274 Жыл бұрын
@@pohorex6834he writes the checks lol
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
@@unclejuan2274 he gives a set amount that the team can spend, and the team makes moves with the money. If I worked at an Amazon warehouse, Jeff bezos is the one who writes the checks, but he doesn’t decide who is employeed
@sillybilly662 жыл бұрын
“has he ever pitched in a game that meant something” narrator voice: “he would in fact go on, to pitch in a game that meant something.”
@SmoothCriminal122 жыл бұрын
The Mike Hampton deal is eerily similar to how another previous Rockies splurge played out. A few years prior, they tried the exact same thing with a big deal to Darryl Kile. Like Hampton, he would also have two terrible years in Colorado and then would mercifully be traded to St Louis. He would revive his career after leaving Coors before his sudden death in 2002. So basically the story is, dont give out big contracts to sinker ball pitchers to play in Coors. Also fun fact about Zimmermann. He was the reason the Nats didn't land Zack Greinke in 2011 because they were unwilling to move him in a deal.
@VenomousStare2 жыл бұрын
DK57 wasn't a sinkerballer. He had a mean 4 seamer and big 12-6 hook. Curves are notoriously bad at Coors
@selfdo Жыл бұрын
Coors Field is the graveyard of pitching careers. Do you know of ANYONE that gets at least 20 starts in a season or 50 relief appearances that has anywhere near the WHIP in Denver as away from it? Hampton's agent was a genius to get him that sort of deal.
@ob_gynkenobi4014 Жыл бұрын
Hampton could rake at the plate for a pitcher tho. Always loved him. My worth the money tho lol
@ProfessorGriffPDX2 жыл бұрын
If you do this list next year, Miggy will be right up towards the top. His 8 year $240 million contract (~$307,00,000 by today's value) has so far netted 2.9 fWAR or 3.0 bWAR. If he plays next season at a -1 fWAR (just based on recent trends and I'm being generous there), a total of 1.9 fWAR will be about ~$161 million per win above replacement. That is a disastrous contract.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Miggy, Strasburg, Corbin, Hosmer, and Rendon are all going to be up there.
@John_Notmylastname2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand teams signing these 10 year contracts. It’s insane.
@Falllll2 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead Do you think considerations should be made for stuff like the fact that signing Corbin was pretty key to the 2019 WS run for the Nats? I'm not saying it was 4D chess because I don't think it was, but the way it's worked out, I think the Nats are for the most part fine with eating the rest of the contract while not being competitive even if he is the worst pitcher in baseball.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
@@Falllll Very similar to Barry Zito on this list. A list like this isn't going to factor that in, but I do think when talking about it making a callout like that is important. From a fan perspective, Corbin played a very important role in the Nationals most important season and you can't take that away from him.
@sportscardsandthings2 жыл бұрын
@@John_Notmylastname obviously they overpay, but the contract is backloaded so that its cheaper in the first few years. That allows the team to sign more players for their window. Also the salary cap increases every year so the big years at the end of the contract arent as tough to swallow. If the Tigers won a championship during the first few years of the contract when Miggy was still at his peak, then it would make sense, but they didnt and now its history.
@Redsoxman99912 жыл бұрын
Since the formula breaks with negative WAR, you should’ve looked up the average cost per WAR paid that season (people estimate this year by year), multiplied that by the negative WAR, and added that to what they paid for the contract to show total dollars lost. This would’ve given a more useful numerical figure for the worst contracts. Loved the video and subbed though.
@lukea.9072 жыл бұрын
Agreed... then he says "the smaller negative WAR is worse" ummm yea only in your world haha I'll take -0.4 player over -2.4 player obviously
@jakemayer21132 жыл бұрын
@@lukea.907 it's not that having a smaller negative WAR is worse, its that the team is effectively 'getting paid' less per negative win. imagine that somehow a ham sandwich got signed to a contract stipulating it would start at left field. the team with the ham sandwich might be willing to trade away the ham sandwich plus cash, and in that case the team receiving the cash would be willing to receive negative WAR in exchange for cash: they would like to be paid more per negative win.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
@@lukea.907 I meant smaller negative $/WAR
@jaylong47052 жыл бұрын
This is the nerdiest comment I have read and I love it
@Redsoxman99912 жыл бұрын
@@jaylong4705 😂 I’m glad
@Just_Lionz2 жыл бұрын
Side note Jerry Dipoto did not want to Sign Hamilton or Pujols but Arte Moreno forced him too. Along with the manager not buying in into Dipoto’s analytical approach and Moreno siding with Scioscia forced Dipoto out of LA and to the Mariners.
@bigbearkat20102 жыл бұрын
Yeah Moreno has always been more concerned about investing in the sexy marketable players than having a cohesive roster
@SmoothCriminal122 жыл бұрын
Yep. Dipoto actually wanted to resign Greinke. And in the end, they both got the same amount of money, but Hamilton had one less year. Just imagine Greinke on the 14-15 Angels, that could've made them World Series contenders.
@Gemnist982 жыл бұрын
@@SmoothCriminal12 I think Greinke’s portion is actually way more sinister, and it ties back into Hamilton. We all know Moreno only wants to profit off of big stars, but on top of that, he happens to be a conservative nut job. This more than anything makes him completely ignorant to the struggles of other people, specifically addicts in Hamilton’s case and for Greinke, his mental health struggles. I wouldn’t be surprised if he felt Greinke’s weird antics and coping with depression completely confused Moreno and convinced him to hand Greinke to the Dodgers. Which worked out for Greinke since he played some of his best seasons with the Dodgers and Diamondbacks and has gotten the help he needs from every other team he’s been to, but still speaks to how Moreno is not only corrupt, but toxic.
@Peter-ok9bj2 жыл бұрын
@@Gemnist98 What does conservative views have to do with the logic of choosing contracts? Why you people keep throwing your political views where they are not warranted?
@Just_Lionz2 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-ok9bj well most of the time conservative viewing people view people with Mental Disabilities as weak or soft. Not saying all conservatives do but most of them are that way. Moreno is a rich dude who doesn’t care about winning at all and only wants to make a profit.
@bluspidr2 жыл бұрын
You have quickly become one of my favorite baseball youtubers, mainly due to what you mentioned at the beginning with being objective as possible by crunching numbers. Really impressed with your "baseball inflation" to equal the playing field
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CarlosRodriguez-bu8jq2 жыл бұрын
this guy maths
@LaggingBack Жыл бұрын
25:52 ..I like the way you switched “adding insult to injury..” to “adding injury to insult” ..very subtle & some very impressive writing/preparation ..so awesomely subtle that I started writing this comment explaining why you said it backwards.. as I was typing I realized the insult (losing the series) did proceed the actual injury. Well done my friend 👌
@BaseballsNotDead Жыл бұрын
Yes... I meant to do that and didn't just say the phrase wrong... (shifty eyes)
@coolwill782 жыл бұрын
I was totally waiting for clips of Troy Percival closing out 2002 World Series game 7 after the long Mo Vaughn quote about him never pitching in big games and getting any hardware.
@Ottonic6 Жыл бұрын
You can totally see the difference in Ryan Howard's swing before and after the Achilles injury. Sad to hear stories like that. I remember watching him in his MVP/WS seasons and he was a beast.
@pikapal912 жыл бұрын
Shocked that Yoenis Cespedes extension after 2016 didn’t make the list. I’m actually shocked that no Mets albatross contracts made the list. Being a Mets fan I see that as a win.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Cespedes didn't make the list because his extension included two arbitration years. Had I included it, it would've come in at #20.
@arthurcooperman31062 жыл бұрын
Wright and Santana as well. But I think Wright's 2013 and Santana's 2009/10 seasons were enough to keep them off the list
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurcooperman3106 Wright should've made the list. I missed that one. Comes in at #8 with 7 years, $149.2 million, got 2.7 WAR, for a total of $55.3 million per WAR. Santana had 6 years, $179 million, 15.5 WAR, for a total of $11.6 million per WAR. That would make him #34.
@Buddha_Approved2 жыл бұрын
No Mo Vaugh on the Mets?
@raincntry26572 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead It pains me that Wright would make this list. I don't dispute your methods or results, only my own personal affection for the player.
@Scotto69772 жыл бұрын
Anthony Rendon contract with the Angels is gonna blow this list out of the water
@jamesknapp644 ай бұрын
it looks like he's been bad for the Angles but still has positive WAR, thus no worse than the 4th worst all time as 3 of them have neg WAR.
@HutchIsOnYT3 ай бұрын
Trout’s contract too
@gooboy9112 жыл бұрын
Your channel is one of the most underrated baseball YT channels out there (how the hell you only have less than 8k subs.....???). The only other channel i would compare you to is Jomboy. Your attention to detail, story telling and the obvious love for the game of baseball really shows in each of your videos. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to seeing more stellar videos, from you, covering the greatest game in the world, baseball.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AttorneyTom2 жыл бұрын
I discovered this channel a few days ago, i think I’ve binge watched every video so far. Keep it up!
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@positionadjust353 Жыл бұрын
As a Giants fan, I have to say Barry Zito’s contract was totally worth it like you mentioned…. That was apart of the catalyst for a Dynasty!! I remember that game like it was yesterday!
@Zach_Beebe2 жыл бұрын
I distinctly remember decrying the Howard contract the day it was signed. I was shopping with my wife and saw it on a sports show ticker and I couldn't believe it.
@ccdogpark2 жыл бұрын
I think they were trying to overly compensate Ryan Howard for keeping him 2 years too long in the minors because of the ridiculous Jim Thome signing.
@realgsdontdie509510 күн бұрын
All these MLB focused KZbin channels have turned me from a post season MLB watcher to a full on fanatic. Keep up the awesome content!!!
@pandoralover2110 ай бұрын
Even though I despise them, it is impressive the Yankees aren't on this list at all considering how many huge contracts they have given out
@WheresMyInhaler5 ай бұрын
The pros of always having money to buy the newest all star from some poor market team.
@anthonyparkernearlifeexp Жыл бұрын
This was a famous Peter Mcgowan signing. He wanted Zito, and the Giants somehow didn't notice that Zito had lost about 3 precious MPH off of his fastball, and suddenly was throwing an average 89 mph instead of 92. I remember in the offseason after the trade but before his first full season, it came out that Zito was working on a new windup to increase his power. Everyone was like "huh??!?" He then changed his mind and went with his normal wind up, but as soon as that first season started he was awful. Bad start after bad start, and everyone was wondering what the deal was. But to Zito's credit, he played out his entire contract. He never gave up, didn't retire, and did indeed give us those 2 crucial starts in 2012 in the post season, without which we wouldn't have won the WS. but yeah, he was awful.
@hitmangfx71622 жыл бұрын
On Albert Belle, it was a reflection of the Orioles at the time. We had just lost Palmeiro to free agency (replaced by Will Clark...literally we traded Palmeiro for Belle, which is basically equal) and he didn't have much protection around him. For the two years we had him, he lived up to his contract. The rest of the team just imploded (although 1999, there were a few amazing years from Brady Anderson and BJ Surhoff) and ultimately, Albert couldn't pitch.
@ntat2622 жыл бұрын
Will Clark was a stud everywhere he went but he had the back of a 90 year old man and couldn’t stay healthy after he left us (SF)
@SmoothCriminal122 жыл бұрын
It's insane how many former/current studs those 99 Orioles had in their lineup. Belle, Clark, Brady, Ripken, Charles Johnson and career seasons from guys like BJ Surhoff and Mike Bordick. But unfortunately they're pitching aside from Mussina was bad and this was around the time the Yankees and Red Sox started taking over the East permanently.
@eduardopena5893 Жыл бұрын
Angelos got Belle simply because he didn't want the Yankees to get him. I hated the move because I disliked Belle as a player immensely, but he had talent. Had it not been for the hip problem, I am sure he would have hit a lot more homers and fellow players going forward.
@SashyPosh2 жыл бұрын
Most underrated baseball page on KZbin. Love your content man
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@marcdoherty60392 жыл бұрын
We Giants fans will NEVER FORGET Barry Zito's 2012 season and post season...we will also NEVER FORGET that 2012 was the only year in the 7 seasons he pitched for us that he did not have a losing record as a starter. We also will NEVER FORGET that Zito was the highest paid player on the Giants squad in 2010 when they won their first chip since leaving NY, and Zito was left off of the post-season roster. So we raise our glasses to Barry Zito for the 2012 LCS & WS starts ( he even had an RBI hit in both) he was a big reason we won it all that year....but we still realize that Zito was a big waste of money..
@nap8712 жыл бұрын
Great example. Huge bust.
@selfdo Жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly the Giants paid about TWICE what they should have for "Captain Quirk", but I don't see him as a waste of ALL the money. Please keep in mind that he had two GREAT seasons in Oakland (2001 and 2002), and afterwards, meh...his numbers, save for that nosedive in 2011, across the Bay were more or less the same as his 2003-2006 Oakland seasons. There was way too much expectation in SF, especially with Barry Bonds' completing his chase of the career home run record in Barry first Giants season, that he'd carry the franchise. If he really were that good, Billy Beane, especially after that successful 2006 season, would have found a way to keep him in Oakland. Barry Zito gave what could reasonably be expected of him, not what Giants fans unrealistically hoped for.
@marcjohn9404 Жыл бұрын
I remember before the season started I think, after Boston signed Crawford, he had mentioned that the Red Sox creeped him out because they said that they had a surveillance team on him or something? I remember something along those lines, and he publicly said that it made him uncomfortable, and I remember thinking that it was a pretty awful way to start his career with the team and then of course he was awful for the Red Sox. I can't believe they would admit to something like that, I would just keep that secret for life and not let someone know that they're being watched, paranoia can do awful things to a player's psyche. He was better with the Dodgers too, his OBP almost got back up to his normal levels, but he couldn't stay healthy so obviously that was a factor as well, but I sometimes wonder if he just wanted to get out of Boston right away.
@firemarblefilms2 жыл бұрын
This video is already sad (although very well done, great job!) but I am very sad to see Upton on his list. Loved watching him as I got into baseball, and he even landed on my favorite team, the Mariners, this year. Even though he put up bad numbers for Seattle, he’s one of my favorite players ever. I knew his contract was bad but it’s sad to see that it’s one of the worst ever.
@Ren602 Жыл бұрын
Based balls would be a good name for a baseball KZbin channel
@andreecelis20932 жыл бұрын
Your channel is actually fire, pls keep it up bro
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@BillyDaKid27 Жыл бұрын
Adam Dunn’s contract with the White Sox was 4 years 56 million back in 2011. Worst contract I’ve ever witnessed as a Chicago fan.
@chicagodude88882 жыл бұрын
Pablo Sandoval, Jacoby Elsburey, Jason Heyward and Andrew Jones and Chris Davis immediately come to mind
@Cueil2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Heyward didn't make this list, but maybe his D offset his Offensive war?
@chicagodude88882 жыл бұрын
@@Cueil Heyward earned roughly 20 mil per war, more than the others on this list. His first 6 seasons he averaged a 5 war, in 7 seasons with the Cubs, 1.3. With a salary of 23 mil/year, Harpers 25 mil/year is one of the biggest bargains in the MLB. He's built like a defensive lineman with an undercut swing like Juan Pierre, where the bulk of his hits were duck snorts over the middle of infielders head.
@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 Жыл бұрын
Andruw Jones contract always made me sad. He was my favorite non-Cardinals player cause of Slugfest 2004. I really thought he'd go down as a top 5 all time centerfielder. Real shame injuries derail so many great centerfielders careers. Cost of being able to get to any and every ball I guess.
@chicagodude8888 Жыл бұрын
@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 Wasn’t he implicated in PED usage? Something I’m not bothered by from players or that era. It lessens the cheating aspect when the whole league is using, only the record deserve an asterisk. If I’m a diet poor Dominican with a change to earn generational difference wealth even if it means cutting corners can anyone blame some of these guys?
@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 Жыл бұрын
@chicagodude8888 thankfully Jones has never had any ties to steriods. But I wouldn't be shocked if he did take them. I never believe a guy who says he did or did not anymore 😂 I agree though those guys belong. MLB was sure happy to make millions upon millions from them when Selig knew what the heck was going on.
@googoo-gjoob2 жыл бұрын
as a Baltimoron, i can tell you.... Chris Davis' deal didnt hurt near as much as giving up Curt Schilling, Pete Harnish and Steve Finley for..... the worst 184 games of *Glenn Davis'* career. it only cost $11M. but it hurt waaay deeper.
@josephtaylor50772 жыл бұрын
I love your analytics based videos. Shows you have a head for numbers and that you don’t just go with the typical MLB/news media analysis for making your lists. I’d like to see a video that shows the decline of the Arizona Diamondbacks from their 2001 World Series win to being one of the worst teams in baseball. I’d like to see if it proves my personal theory that the management’s (front office down to on-field manager) decisions have killed this team. I have specific decisions in mind and timeframes in mind. Reply if interested in theories.
@godbacks092 жыл бұрын
As a D’backs fan I think you’re right.
@ccdogpark2 жыл бұрын
Well what else could ruin a MLB team, besides management decisions ? I'm just curious.
@toastbuster9050 Жыл бұрын
They died
@dfloriza2 жыл бұрын
As an Orioles fan, Chris Davis' contract was easily one of the worst I've ever seen. That money could have definitely been used to develop more prospects, considering most of our guys (JJ Hardy, Adam Jones, Matt Wieters, Manny Machado) were either heading to other teams or retiring. This contract also taught me that Scott Boras could sell water to a fish. I mean, it was a really clueless fish, but a fish nonetheless.
@peteinthedesert70822 жыл бұрын
I liked Mo Vaughn as an Angel. He struck out too much in 2000 (181 K's) and his OB% wasn't great (.365), but was still a dangerous hitter. Then sat out all of 2001 due to injury. Signed with the Mets in 2002. What about the Angels? Percival had a career year as a closer in 2002 (40 saves, 1.92 ERA). Troy Glaus and quiet-but-solid Garrett Anderson were the most feared hitters in the lineup that featured a buncha non-stars (sorry Salmon), but many had a career year or very good season (Spezio, Fullmer, Kennedy, Eckstein). So without a super star, the Angels won the World Series... and have quickly forgot the formula that made them winners in 2002!
@ntat262 Жыл бұрын
I know this is old but a .365 OBP had to be like almost 50 points above league average I’m guessing. It was pretty good even if down for Mo lol
@ntat262 Жыл бұрын
I know this is old but a .365 OBP had to be like almost 50 points above league average I’m guessing. It was pretty good even if down for Mo lol
@sirfallsalot2000 Жыл бұрын
Well, you can add miggy’s contract now. It slides right into 4th place, but if you remove his first season, he would have been bumped up to 3rd. I love miggy, but I guarantee some Detroit fans are glad he’s off the books.
@humptydumpty1575 Жыл бұрын
Prince Fielder is the Popeye's worker who eats everyones order right before they get to the window.
@davidduarte312 жыл бұрын
Yo that smile josh Hamilton gave at the courthouse kinda creeped me out ngl
@jamesgabrielson4736 ай бұрын
I had not heard about the child abuse charges. I felt badly for the guy bc he clearly has horrible issues with drugs and alcohol if he couldn't give those up for millions of dollars. Not anymore. How does a father react that way to being charged with assaulting his child? I feel so lucky that I had two amazing parents.
@justinamenta72415 ай бұрын
His daughter was out of control and he restrained her. Hes smiling out of disbelief because of how absolutely ridiculous the whole thing is and how it was blown out of proportion. His daughter was/is a spoiled entitled little b*tch. I'm assuming you have never been around a teenage girl...they say some evil rude shit to their parents. I'm sure she brought up his substance abuse issues. He should have put her through the dang wall.
@J.C... Жыл бұрын
Joey Albert Belle and his twin brother are from my hometown. Their dad was a baseball coach at one of the high schools here wayyyyy back when they were young. He was a great coach, from what I hear around from people around here who played for him in high school. Prince Fielder isn't an icon. CECIL FIELDER is a friggin ICON. His son is just extremely popular compared to his dad.
@cosmicm82 жыл бұрын
Realizing who number 1 was before the reveal hurt me as a Phillies fan. I used to call him my favorite player and I still have his jersey. And now I’m sad about him again. Pain.
@ShadowBlood19522 жыл бұрын
I saw the video title as well and my mind jumped right to Howard instantly. It still hurts till this day because he helped us win the WS, but after that…… the horror.
@brandonkiehl2692 жыл бұрын
He's still one of my favorites of all time, honestly. I'm glad he got paid. I just wish that it hadn't come at the cost of our entire franchise ;-;
@saljablo27672 жыл бұрын
@@brandonkiehl269 how could he be a favorite of all time ? Watching him strikeout every at bat must be entertaining to you.
@shanebush2751 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel. Very interesting stuff. I'm a baseball geek since I was 7, I'm 53. I always wanted to do this type of thing that you do. Great job and I'll continue to enjoy your channel.
@quiddity131 Жыл бұрын
Surprised Pablo Sandoval with the Red Sox didn’t make this list, that was basically a bust from the moment it was signed. Although maybe it was under $100 million and I’m misremembering.
@rthomasb2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the follow up video. What players have ever performed up to their contract in the later parts of it?
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
As a preview... I'll give you two 8 year deals that aged very well. Scott Rolen with the Cardinals and Chipper Jones' extension with the Braves.
@rthomasb2 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead Yep, Chipper was always solid. I feel like Rolen broke down a little towards the end. I'd have to look it up. Jeter was always constant. Where does A-Rod show up?
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Rolen broke down in the middle of the contract, but rebounded the last two years (5.2 and 4.1 WAR). A-Rod's deal with the Rangers rates pretty high... especially since he opted out of the last 3 years. His extension with the Yankees... not so much.
@ccdogpark2 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead Scott Rolen was just an odd duck who didn't want to play in Philly. Any thoughts of him in the HOF are laughable.
@Matt-cr4vv Жыл бұрын
I think part of why most players don’t live up to the contract towards the end is largely a product of how the system is structured. Players don’t get to the point of signing one of these contracts until they’ve had six years of MLB service. So when you factor out that after six years that they may be signing for 8+ years one has to then think about how old the player is going to be in the later years of that deal. And that’s of course assuming they sign the long term deal at the first chance. Some of worse long deals of course are the ones that aren’t right away when the player is even older. For instance if you sign a guy when he is 30 to a 10 year deal you already know he’s not going to perform up to the deal at the end because of how old he’s going to be. I think that structure contributes a lot to why so many of those deals don’t play out over the term. When you have to wait six years to get to free agency it’s natural your most productive years are going to be prior to the big deal. I tend to think that the long big deals are paying for what the player has already done at a discount more than paying for what they’re going to do. But thanks to the market teams don’t have much of a choice but to do the long deals if they want to land bigger name guys. You’re essentially betting on the player being super productive in the early years and winning games with them to make the later years worth it when their production declines with their age. For example, if I signed a guy to 10 years but my team won a couple rings supported by his production for the first five years I could live with the later years because I got championships from the deal. I know that when they’re older they won’t perform at the top levels so my gamble is that I can cash in in the early years of the deal which lets you live with the bad years. The issue is when you do these deals and they never live up to it. The gamble of chasing the big names knowing how you have to accept the risk of their older years.
@Dojhit2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I had no idea how bad some of these contracts were! Barry Zito being on this list hurts me though. Mathematically I get why, but he exited the game as a hero.
@SmoothCriminal122 жыл бұрын
It still shocks me how Zito could've fallen off that bad, especially with playing in a pitcher friendly park.
@outofcompliance1639 Жыл бұрын
Cost per war seems like a very good indicator of contract value since winning is why you play. Some other factors may add or subtract but on the field that is it, how much do wins cost a team?
@celanian8188 Жыл бұрын
Aside from the issues with negative WAR, I feel like dividing by WAR has major flaws when you have very small numbers. I think anyone would agree that spending $150m for 0.2 WAR would be a far worse contract than spending $100m for 0.1 WAR, but it would be ranked as a "better" contract. Not sure what would be a good fix, but this current approach can definitely be improved.
@celanian8188 Жыл бұрын
I have an idea. Since the lowest WAR in any given year seems to be about -2 and we are measuring worst contracts, how about adding 2*(length of contract) to the denominator? For my above example of $150m for 0.2 WAR vs $100m for 0.1 WAR, lets assume both are 5 year contracts. The metric for the first contract would be $150m/10.2 = $14.7m. The second contract would be $100m/10.1 = $9.9m. The first contract would be clearly worse using this new metric as it should be. This metric is measuring against the very worst player in any given year rather than just a replacement level player, so it seems to be more fitting for a "worst of" list.
@michaelpatterson47182 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that after the angels traded Mo Vaughn, they won a World Series, and Percival got the save in game 7
@GeraldM_inNC2 жыл бұрын
Percival was one of the best closers of his era.
@mtgpackrat79452 жыл бұрын
While not qualifying for this list, Jacoby Ellsbury signing with the Yankees has to go down as one of the single worst contracts of all time.
@gt6139a2 жыл бұрын
Nice entertaining video, but I wish you had used bWAR per 100 Million as your measure instead of Millions per bWAR. That way your formula wouldn't have exploded when bWAR turned negative for the last three and would've looked more consistent :)
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
That is a very good point! Should've gone with that to be MUCH cleaner.
@ccdogpark2 жыл бұрын
Could you explain that in English in 25 words or less ?
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
@@ccdogpark ?
@jaylenbarnes2.079 Жыл бұрын
Love the Intro so much
@ntat2622 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure Kevin brown would have made this list. Now I have to go look at his stats. As a giants fan I’m shocked Matt Cain wasn’t on here. It was literally like the SECOND he finally Got paid, he COMPLETELY forgot how to pitch EDIT: Brown came back from injury waaaay better than I remembered it being as a kid
@thetruthabouticeland2 жыл бұрын
It's funny that everyone thinks the brown contract was horrible. He was an Ace for 3 years, was injured and good 2 years, and injured and bad for 2 years. He was worth an average of 3 war per year for his contract.
@frankie3791 Жыл бұрын
Really explain a little more about Cain If you could? I remember he was so great for a 2-3 years at least
@brianfuller757 Жыл бұрын
As an Angels fan, I note how many Angels contracts are on this list.
@Ryan-bh2np2 жыл бұрын
Barry Zito on paper was a terrible contract but he showed up in the PS when we needed him most and that alone makes it worth it to us
@GudeaTW2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@gusterposey2 жыл бұрын
I think it's all because once he was with the Giants he stopped lifting his arms over his head in his windup. Even with the A's in 2006 his Fastball velo dropped but he still had a decent 2006. Once he got the SF he didn't lift his arms over his head anymore and that's when the problems started. He still had the best curveball ever though.
@bignov5173 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, it was something similar thing with Mo Vaughn and the Angels. Best thing he did for the club was bring over Kevin Appier from the Mets. Appier helped pitch the the Angels to their first World Series. It was almost poetic that the guys we got from the Mets helped answer Mo’s “Whet have the Angels ever done?” comment the year prior.
@chrisphillips348 Жыл бұрын
Barry Zito flamed out but had the most incredible Curve I’ve EVER seen!, like Koufax , it went from players head to ground!
@shaunnichols1743 Жыл бұрын
Zito was objectively a terrible contract for the Giants. Prior to October 2012 both fans and media were destroying him. You can appreciate his performance in one October and still agree his time with the Giants was otherwise disastrous.
@snowbumm1002 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. Hope you keep going viral!! Awesome stuff!
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@GardenStateDiecast2 жыл бұрын
Shocking that Jacoby Ellsbury did not make this list when he signed with New York
@noreasternbrewmaster87052 жыл бұрын
9.9 WAR during his time with the Yankees. He wasn't worth the contract, but wasn't dumpster fire bad... which feels like a pretty backhanded compliment.
@frankie3791 Жыл бұрын
@@noreasternbrewmaster8705 Was he still stealing bases? Man was he good for a few years with my Sox
@roninjedi2494 Жыл бұрын
WAR is such a stupid “stat” to judge a player. It’s completely made up and arbitrary. Yes I know they use a few real and actual stats to “create” it but it can’t and doesn’t measure intangibles. It doesn’t account for leadership, film study or work ethic that affects the whole team, clutch AB’s vs AB’s in blowouts, it doesn’t account for how a hitter affects the pitches a batter before them might see. Let’s look at Yadier Molina for example. His last full season of a starter he was given a war of 1. You’re telling me how he affects the game with framing pitches, holding/throwing out runners, and pitch selection, blocking skills etc only affected one game?? WAR is an absolutely stupid “stat” and no real fan or self respecting student of the game ever uses it. It’s made to dumb down baseball for people who don’t really understand baseball
@hipstereagle60502 жыл бұрын
For a minute I thought the Howard contract was gonna get spared from being discussed 😂
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
I had almost missed it because in my mind his initial 2 year extension, which included some arbitration years, was part of his massive extension. Once I realized they were separate, he was an easy #1.
@hipstereagle60502 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead hard to top that, I lived through those years and it was so depressing. Thank goodness the Phils made the WS this year to put that time deep in the past
@yungnalege Жыл бұрын
Awesome video my man. Can’t wait till the other one
@BaseballsNotDead Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@Rayrard2 жыл бұрын
The Chris Davis deal is why I fear the Yankees giving Judge a mega-contract of more than 6 years. He is the same age and hit a ton of homers in the last few years, but has been injury prone and strikes out a lot.
@Kaibat12052 жыл бұрын
Judge is also a way better than Chris Davis
@jadprinz4822 жыл бұрын
Did you just compare judge to Chris Davis? Lmao
@t.jwitherspoon39832 жыл бұрын
Judges worst full season is better than Davis’ best. Not even worth comparing them
@Peter-ok9bj2 жыл бұрын
Judge is a hell of a player but I wouldn't give him more than a 6 year deal. But the Yankees are desperate because without Judge they are nothing even with Stanton on the team and look at how his contract has aged? If he wasn't playing he would be in the top 10 of those bad contracts.
@Rayrard2 жыл бұрын
@@jadprinz482 Do you see Davis' numbers before the albatross contract was given to him and he sucked? 100+ RBI's and 50+ homers before that contract. Judge hits for a better average but my point is that you don't pony up a huge contract for a guy in his 30's, because he could end up on this list in the future. I love Judge but he's not worth 8 years at 40 mil, and won't be putting up those numbers in 3-4 years.
@EaglesInHD Жыл бұрын
That story about the Red Sox pitching staff sitting around the clubhouse slamming Miller Lites, playing Xbox, and eating Popeyes will forever be my favorite image in baseball lore
@phatshotsgaming75782 жыл бұрын
Just when you thought baseball was dead. It’s not
@johnflatt12882 жыл бұрын
Crazy you don’t have more subs, fantastic videos!
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@mikkyrevelljr72892 жыл бұрын
The worst one I've ever seen was the red Sox paying carl Crawford to basically do nothing. I was so angry at them for doing that
@frankie3791 Жыл бұрын
And that rookie Rusney Castillo! Grrr lol and right when they each signed I even bought an overpriced autograph card of each to add my "Redsox" collection lol
@joel86927 ай бұрын
Carl Crawford was lucky that his free agent class was weak with him being the best position player available. Cano was one of the top 5-8 players in the MLB at the time he hit free agency but he also benefited from being a FA In a weak class because he would of never gotten 250 million if there was better players available.
@mikkyrevelljr72897 ай бұрын
@@joel8692 yeah I remember that time. There was a couple guys that got ridiculously overpaid, and none of them really did anything lol
@alexabruzzi82672 жыл бұрын
Great video! glad to see you back.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@Chesthair.org32 жыл бұрын
As a orioles fan I can not believe what Chris Davis did
@eduardopena5893 Жыл бұрын
I can. He cheated to inflate his numbers, found some owner stupid enough to veto his own front office to sign him for crazy money, got married, became a dad, and then essentially retired a rich man. Chris played the Orioles like the two bit operation they became under Angelos.
@margaretjiantonio939 Жыл бұрын
Trouble with long-term contracts is the player is not the same player he was at the beginning. Most of the time, the teams can't wait to get rid of them.
@TheLastPrime382 жыл бұрын
WHOA I never realized that Albert Belle was on HOF trajectory. That's crazy
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
I really want to dig into why the White Sox opted out. He had an MVP caliber year with them right before they did that.
@TheLastPrime382 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead Thats insane
@bigbearkat20102 жыл бұрын
Numbers wise sure though his relationship with the media and really his personality in general would've made it an uphill battle. When he was forced into retirement Bill Madden wrote an article with the general sentiment of couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Whether you think that would've been fair to him is another discussion.
@TheLastPrime382 жыл бұрын
@@bigbearkat2010 I always felt that if your numbers are there, you're in. The whole media relationship stuff is kinda bs to me. I realize that you want players who display excellence on and off the field to represent your game. BUT plenty of bad people are in the hall of fame. Every Era had differing values, so someone who was stand up then or now could be viewed as a bad person.
@lawcane2 жыл бұрын
He had Ralph Kiner numbers.
@joshuagingrich3881 Жыл бұрын
The Patrick Corbin and Stephen Strasburg deals could be on here by the time they're up. Corbin: 6-yrs, $140 mil. So far has contributed 3 WAR in the first four seasons, but is quickly trending downward. Had -1.2 WAR in 2021 and -2.5 WAR this past season. Strasburg: 7-yrs, $245 mil. So far has contributed -0.5 WAR in the first three seasons. This contract is horrible because of the innings. He's made eight starts and thrown only 31.1 IP since signing the deal after 2019. It's kinda ironic -- the Nats went from having one of the best contracts ever in Scherzer to two of the worst.
@Grizzbit2 жыл бұрын
Love finding a small market channel early in its development. Great for baseball.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@yuckyool2 жыл бұрын
Could have added 30 more contract/players (and GM's) to this list. As you mentioned, Pujols will hit this list. Vernon Wells got $86M (which is just short), and that makes 6 for the Angels. That is incredible. Jacoby Ellsbury for the Yankees, and A-Rod's 2nd contract wasn't a big plus either. For the RedSox: Hanley Ramirez and Pablo Sandoval (both, just short of $100M). There's a reason this list keeps growing, and that the Rays and Cardinals aren't on it much. I believe Judge's next contract will make this list in 10 years as well.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
It's tough to put 41 contracts on a list of the 11 worst contract.
@gedalyahreback2133 Жыл бұрын
Every $100 million contract is a bad one as long as minor leaguers are surviving on ramen noodles.
@TheWeeTodd7 ай бұрын
Ramen ain't bad. Should all be lucky to make a living playing a game. MOST humans, including the majority (over 50% if that helps) struggle to pay bills working jobs we don't "play"
@mctheplaywright7 ай бұрын
@@TheWeeToddTwo things can be true at once, and it hurts everyone to act like it doesn’t. Most people work shit jobs for shit pay, as the people at the top of their industries take far more than their share. That can include people who “play” their work.
@scottwebb65707 ай бұрын
No one’s forcing them to play minor league ball
@scottwebb65707 ай бұрын
Just like any other job… you want to get paid more either do better or look for something else
@bigchunguscultmember12677 ай бұрын
It’s the fault of the owners and the league.
@RationalGaze.BingChillin Жыл бұрын
In 2019 I applied for a baseball publication with an article I had written about this topic. The media promotes these contracts and the market drives bigger and bigger contracts but the chance of the contracts being bad for the team is way too high.
@ROL4NDpkmnguide2 жыл бұрын
Baseball isn’t dead and neither are you
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
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@Mackster2482 жыл бұрын
Hey man awesome video! I for sure thought Jason Schmidt’s dodger contract would be on here. I think he only made a few starts for them. Where did he rank out of curiosity?
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
It was only a 3 year deal and came well below $100 million.
@derick-smith2 жыл бұрын
Subscribe now everyone. This channel is too good to not have 100k + subs. Fire content.
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Gracias!
@brentwalker57262 жыл бұрын
As a long-time Giants fan, I am not at all surprised Zito was so high on this list. He was bad, the contract was worse. Even when they signed him I thought they overpaid by a lot. He had been regressing for a few years and was nowhere near his Cy Young caliber self BEFORE the Giants signed him. It was nice he gave us a couple of HUGE post-season wins, but for several years he was a #5 or #6 caliber starter making ace money. Its hard not to play "what-if" and think about how many WS they might have won if they spent that money elsewhere...
@chadkirby7492 Жыл бұрын
If I never heard the term WAR again, it would be too soon. I’m so over it, and I thought it was awesome when it first came on the scene. It’s a decent stat for fans to add to their other stats for talking baseball but it’s become another demon altogether. Just one guys opinion and I don’t expect everyone to have it. Other than that, very well done video. Great job.
@Baseballnfj2 жыл бұрын
Corbin... ooof. At the time I was desperate for the Yankees to start spending more money... I would have taken anyone... I'm glad they didn't get Corbin
@kduncanski Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you called out giants fans for defending Zito due to the 2012 postseason. As a giants fan, I was pissed at the contract when they signed him. But there needs to be some Context. 2006 - 2009 were awful years for the team. No one player was going to change that. While he was not good, he still took the mound for 30 - 33 starts a year, didn't mouth off or be a distraction. He took the ball, threw 190 innings and went home. He could have won a cy young in 2007 or 2008 and the giants still would have missed the playoffs. I get why he is on this list, I am not an apologist for him, but maybe war should be weighted relative to accomplishing the ultimate goal of winning rings. Just ask trout.
@TheRealBatBoyAlive2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video of each team's best Free Agent signing. Also Tigers kept paying Prince Fielder 6 million per year until 2020.
@dudebrodude43882 жыл бұрын
Well, he is a Prince...
@taygaming89592 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm curious if Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera will be included in a future edition.
@PaulMcCartney_2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Judges’ contract will be worth it
@erikvargas60742 жыл бұрын
Just found your videos man, you sound just like the narrator from the Sandlot, great vid, keep up good work
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@xPHnerdx Жыл бұрын
as a giants fan I lost it during the Zito breakdown 🤣 Those numbers! Thanks for the ring Barry
@austinbirtles55782 жыл бұрын
THE KING IS BACK
@mlease12 жыл бұрын
As a diehard Angels fan, this video hurt a little, but after your Upton "rant" I'm glad you mentioned the front office. Moreno needs to go, and I am very excited the change may come soon, personally gtfu Arte Moreno! On the postive side, great video! Keep it up!
@Uns_Maps_85 ай бұрын
What happened with Miguel Cabrera’s 8 year extension?
@mpaulm5 ай бұрын
Yeah I think his adds up to $100 million/war😮
@AndThatsBaseball2 жыл бұрын
Bro went from the Moneyball guy to the contract guy, love to see it
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Can probably figure out why Moneyball appealed to me in the first place. Baseball finances and contracts versus results on the field are like kitty litter to me.
@dylanortega94892 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead I see why Billy Bean never liked signing a huge FA or risk it.
@edwardlease74102 жыл бұрын
Thanks Artie, there are 5 of 10 bad contracts because Albert was left off. The good news is you are selling and NOBODY can mess the Angels up more than you. Mike Trout will probably where his high school jersey into the HOF.
@smellyfly94692 жыл бұрын
Artie didn’t sign Vaughn. Besides the increased use of the shift vs left handed hitters is what killed Hamilton along with the swing and miss issues but if they banned the shift most of these players wouldn’t be on this list.
@treyolchawa88482 жыл бұрын
The man has returned.
@jonssportscards60522 жыл бұрын
Awesome content! Cant wait for the best version
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Working on it. Maybe in a week. It's a lot easier to find clips of players doing good things than bad things, so this video should have a quicker turnaround.
@dogshxtgames32572 жыл бұрын
At Hampton on the video rn, as a giants fan I think Matt Cain might be on here
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
No... but you did catch the first one I missed (I had a spiel about how it's really hard to make this list fully inclusive that got cut because the whole video was getting long). Cain should DEFINITELY be on here. Inflation adjusted contract was $115.7 million. Accumulated -1.7 WAR. Total of -$68 million per WAR. He should be number 3 right after Chris Davis. On that note of things I regret immediately after posting the video... I had a missed opportunity to show footage the Angels winning the 2002 World Series with Troy Percival recording the last out during Mo Vaughn's rant. EDIT: Add in another I missed. David Wright should be at #8 with 7 years, $149.2 million, got 2.7 WAR, for a total of $55.3 million per WAR.
@dogshxtgames32572 жыл бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead amazing video, not surprised about Zito being one of the worst SFG contracts right next to Cain. 🤪
@davidmenchaca55492 жыл бұрын
Money is only worth what u think it is
@burno7799 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great channel!
@BaseballsNotDead Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@samwaisanen89722 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Jordan Zimmermann is that the Tigers let Max Scherzer go that offseason, where he eventually signed with Jordan’s Nationals. From that exchange the tigers saved $8mil per year and Scherzer finished top 5 in CY Young voting each of the next 5 years.
@mikepastor.k6233 Жыл бұрын
Scherzer told them he wanted out. Not much the Tiger's could do.
@alwillk Жыл бұрын
Scherzer’s contract was $100 million more than Zimmermans. Tigers offered max $150 million nats signed him for $210 million. Zimmerman got $110 million.
@bobcoulon24492 жыл бұрын
Now you can add Jacob deGrom. He has won 37 games over the last five years. So he will get 40 million a year for that.
@jeremylamovsky9868 Жыл бұрын
Albert Belle was the meanest most frightening humans to ever play baseball. That 95 Indians lineup was so good Manny Ramirez batted 8th or 9th. I remember when he chased a group of kids in his car for egging his house. I can't believe there was a kid dumb enough to do that shit. But if he was on your team and you weren't a member of the local media, you loved the guy. I got to see him live for my Indians, the white Sox, and Baltimore at Camden Yards.
@COMMENTOR1313 Жыл бұрын
Ryan Howard will always be a Phillies legend and he was well worth the contract. It was good seeing him in Phillies red for most of his career.
@nathanielabel98742 жыл бұрын
Great job, looking forward to the best contract vid!
@BaseballsNotDead2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@humptydumpty1575 Жыл бұрын
Jordan howard just messed up my Burger at Burger King.