Worst TLC Mom I've Ever Seen

[@RileyRunsWithScissors]

“What’s the difference between 14 and 40?” A lengthy prison sentence.

[@zarasbazaar]

It also shows how women in this culture are never expected to accomplish anything or mature, if they're the same at 40 as they are at 14.

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

"Baby, 15 can get you 20" ~ The Super Mario predator

[@krazyoldkatlady192]

YAS! Well said!😂

[@TheMadhousePodcast]

​@@RainbowFlowerCrowOMG, I remember that lol

[@lizh6420]

I was about to make this same comment, lols

[@WaitingxInxSilence]

Mom says their tradition is for women to be mothers and clean… but their house is a mess!!! 😰

[@CherrrrBear]

Right?! WTF

[@blackswan1983]

She doesn't even cook!

[@jenjendarkness5713]

Yeah she's not very good at keeping it clean to gypsy standards

[@jenjendarkness5713]

​@blackswan1983 omg yeah the food she brought looks horrible can't even tell what's what..

[@CatCheshire]

She probably thinks she doesn't have to do that anymore - she already has a husband and a kid Now the next step is to merry of the kid, so she can be free Or something

[@kristinpatton1018]

There's no universe where I could even picture looking at my 10 year old and thinking about getting her a man.

[@bec7080]

My mom and dad thought that I was a really good match for a kid with a really sick rat tail when I was 10. I mean not a marriage match, just like a "that years school dance" match but you know. They were trying to find me a match and I said ",nooo I don't want a date". And they said "ok that's fine" (But you know, I'm completely on your side, I'm just kind of pointing out what should be the only kind of normal version of even thinking about a guy for your 10 year old. And "I don't want to think about boys" should be ok too)

[@androgynousmaggot9389]

No, no! You need to think about her( your) future! What if she doesn't find a man and she turns into a 15yo cat lady?! Maybe you should try some beauty pageants? I've heard there's a lot of single well adjusted man looking for a partner! 😏 My braindead joke was hidden by yt?

[@Supersteffy]

Honestly, I would love to see a queer episode of this. A gay gypsy wedding? Can you SAY extra?

[@nevaehonrefni]

my parents didn't want me even THINKING about boys at that age 😂 hell it was complicated getting a bf in HS 😭 my dad was so "BUT SHES MY ANGEL" meanwhile my mom was like "she's at the age where she wants to date Michael" 😂

[@penguinZ85]

Says who? The United States of America? Mic drop

[@shenn.annagins7176]

“She’s not a piece of meat, I’m not gonna let you pass her off to somebody. She’s 14.” That’s the attitude we need to have IN GENERAL towards girls and women. There are still states where the legal age of marriage is 13 or 14. No more child brides, no more exploitation of children. Let the kids be kids.

[@madalice5134]

There are states where there is no legal age, and every time people try pass laws to ban child marriage, lunatics always block them.

[@mimo_7174]

For the 'mother' to cry after that, like she's so upset she can't abuse her child. Freaking insane !!!!

[@quintessaoliver6923]

❤💯✊🙌

[@LostInADaydream-13]

As a child bride, I fully agree.

[@ILoveCats69875]

@@LostInADaydream-13I’m sorry ❤

[@LatelyLucy]

Crying because your husband doesn’t want to marry off your young child is extremely disturbing.

[@Bubbabab]

Right

[@susanfrancisquez6190]

This lady is something else 🤨

[@chirosk]

She's jealous of her daughter, period

[@Bubbabab]

@@chirosk 100%

[@noelle3537]

She’s 10 and he knows she’s a child.

[@mage1439]

Poor Mary. She seems like a sweet kid, and her mom is determined to ruin her life. Dad needs to take her and run, seriously.

[@coochie8670]

Too bad it's entirely scripted.

[@Mouthy.krybaybee]

Shes excusing pedophilia.

[@gremlininblue2601]

@@coochie8670 God I hope it's scripted

[@KrigRaseri]

I hope it's all scripted (probably is) but if not, from what I know, it's pretty hard in the US for a dad to get custody in a situation like this without the mom directly abusing the kid.

[@jessicacharlton7347]

​@@KrigRaseriIf trying to groom your 10 year old into becoming a wife and mother at 14 isn't considered abuse, then I don't know what is. I think the father would have a decent chance at getting custody because of that. The mother was planning on using her 10 year old daughters birthday party as a way of finding the poor girl a future husband ffs. I wouldn't be surprised if someone called CPS.

[@AJ-cq7hw]

the worst part is the daughter thinking that she can’t make anyone happy. she’s 10 years old!!!!! her job right now is to be a kid

[@BitsyGem]

Right?!? That broke my heart!

[@aphroditemercury937]

Same!! At least the Dad seemed like someone who could've explained his position in a way she couldve understood and supported her through her own choices journey... ​@@BitsyGem

[@CowToes]

Kids want to make their parent's happy, but it is never a child's job... That's a sign of emotional abuse.

[@LocalDr.Pepperlover]

@@aphroditemercury937exactly, but the mom kept getting in the way! :(

[@hakunamarada]

My mom was 14 when she had me. She ended up really resenting me for taking her childhood away from her. And I ended up feeling guilty for it. Totally not a good thing for any of us.

[@TexanAstarte]

You shouldnt feel any guilt as you didnt make that choice for her.

[@amberlytheharpyqueen]

I hope you know that it's not your fault and you shouldn't feel guilty for being born.

[@estelasayeed5608]

That’s.. not a good situation at all, hope ur doing okay and enjoying life 👍

[@bubblingbubztheklown5902]

You didn't choose to be born . Serious question tho... Are you one of the Teen Mom show kids? 😅

[@hakunamarada]

@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 I was told I was a burden for years, so of course I felt like that. Nah, just born in the early '90s when there weren't a lot of places for women and addicts to get help in California.

[@w_b_mplease9715]

Easy: mom regretted marrying non gypsy, misses all of her family , and thinks that she wants to spare her daughter from that. She has a rocky marriage , shunned by her family, she's lonely. Is using her daughter to make her own life happy again.

[@aliciamann5384]

Bingo

[@Gaarakunpro]

Exactly. She needs to find her own identity not force the one she wants on her literal child.

[@AnnabelleXD]

It’s refreshing to see a dad so protective and it show how mums can be the bad one.

[@shannonceleste5557]

@AnnabelleXD it sucks that we even point this out We're so used to seeing the opposite unfortunately :/

[@wareforcoin5780]

​​@@shannonceleste5557It lets bad mothers get away with so much more because of this bias. They slip through the cracks because we just automatically assume women are the better parent.

[@killlalia]

I hope she grew up to be a writter like her dad encouraged her to. Her mom needs to get medicated asap.

[@stevengeorge1]

a writter? huh?

[@SaraRankins.]

I think her mom is on some meds already, the illegal kind

[@HighKing9000]

@@stevengeorge1didn’t watch the video huh

[@Yeoboko]

It’s spelled writer

[@HighKing9000]

@@Yeoboko tomato tomato

[@honeybunniii4686]

"What's it matter if she's 14 or 40?!" If it matters so little, why does she have to be married off as a child? 💀

[@LoveMe0516]

My exact thoughts lol

[@kissit012]

Weird how they never think of it the other way first

[@BlueyHeelerHere543]

These people just really like to follow the medieval rules of marrying someone at such a young age… that doesn’t work in today’s society smh.

[@tell-me-a-story-]

I CaNt PoSsIpLy TeLl ThE DiFfEreNce!

[@chowle5744]

I'm sorry, what's the difference between 14 and 40?? Chris Hansen is sweating somewhere.

[@spacecase8791]

😂

[@wolvie1618]

Chris Hansen is running towards their location at top speed

[@TheBathrobeWizard]

They will hear 'Why don't you have a seat' from miles away

[@DeyseChande]

😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dying

[@DVG7093]

26 years (In prisson)

[@Butter_frogg]

So because the mother didn't marry a gypsy man and failed to carry her beliefs and traditions now she's wants to force the tradition upon her daughter to fix her mistakes? That's crazy.

[@melissabarranti188]

Stuff like that happens all the time it’s so sad

[@Metal_Medusa]

She was going to force her 10 year old into underage marriage and pregnancy because of her wounds with her family.... hell nah. The man should take his daughter and get the hell out of there.

[@Scarface2295OG]

The mom literally has the look of an abusive parent behind closed doors. The dad obviously cares more

Nobody came to the party b/c mom is a wack-a-doodle.

[@niamhturner1451]

Where is the abuse? Tell me what an abusive parent is like to you?

[@Spacecoreinspace]

​@@niamhturner1451someone who acts like that, simple as

[@mariahlehman9777]

@@niamhturner1451 Ok so , the abuse is trying to marry off, not only your minor daughter, but your prepubescent daughter, and attacking anyone that would condone her pursuing her own dreams or education instead. Still confused, honeybun? :)

[@mariahlehman9777]

He cares so much but he act as if he is helpless to stop any of this.

[@angiedillman7963]

"Whats the difference 10 or 40?" Ummm, puberty, physical maturity, emotional maturity, etcc..Also it's illegal, so there's a lot of "difference." It's disturbing.

[@SamRK-1000]

Life experience too… I have so much hate and vitriol in my body for people that don’t see the gap between even 20y/o’s and 18y/o’s. It is SUCH a gap, as someone who is 18, thinking about college etc etc my brain is SO MUCH more different from my parents’ even my 25y/o, nearly 30y/o brother. Much less the gal between 10 and 40!!!!! YUCK YUCK YUCK.

[@Gooby5400]

@@SamRK-1000I really hope the dad takes the daughter far far away from that woman :(

[@bleakautomaton4808]

100%

[@Kat-mu8wq]

The human brain isn't finished developing until approx age 25, that's when the adult maturing bits (such as thinking about consequences and emotions such as love) are process-able. Many teens think they're in love, but they aren't, it's either physical appearance or lust, they're not the same as actual love. Unfortunately it would seem many adult men like brain-dead young women that can't think for themselves, which may be why one particular actor won't date women over 25. He claims it's due to them "wanting babies and marriage" at 30, but 21-24 is a woman's sexual peak,so if she's going to get pregnant, it's most likely during those early 20s.

[@funnatopia704]

Mom is a prime example of generational trauma.

[@niamhturner1451]

more an example of a just plain shit culture

[@edithchinyere7387]

True

[@skateywatey]

yeah… i wish she looked internally at herself and had the self awareness.

[@StephAF]

"says who???" Child Protective Services

[@beety6903]

I like the idea that her family isn't attending because they also think this is absolutely disgusting. "THIS is how she tries to win us back?!"

[@Alice-si8uz]

My guess is she's just a dramatic person in general and has burned her bridges regardless of who she married... like what kind of person gets in an argument with their partner about marrying off their 10 year old and how old she should be to have kids...

[@elysegnade9967]

For real. What tradition is she trying to preserve? Letting your underage girls marry at 14, popping babies out and cleaning the trailer, while not allowing them to experience life and aspire to be something greater than just some complacent housewife? I'd run away from home if this was how I was raised.

[@gremlininblue2601]

not to mention all the health issues and risks that come with being forced to carry and deliver too young. They're more likely to be killed during childbirth, too. So not only are these children being preyed on, but their literal lives are put into jeopardy as well

[@pandakicker1]

What if we actually WANT to be a housewife and not have to be out pleasing anyone else but our families that we built with our husbands? Am I less of a human being for wanting that? Why must I be made to fell lesser for wanting such a thing? I am not 10, I am 29, but I am still met with scorn and ridicule for wanting such a thing.

[@GmmBeast]

​@@pandakicker1There's nothing wrong with being a traditional wife or wanting to be a traditional wife. The issue comes from when there are children involved or someone is being forced into the position. If you're an adult (which I know you said you are), then I'm sorry if people have made you feel bad for wanting to be a traditional wife. But a lot of people see it as from a time when divorce was heavily discouraged and women were MADE to be traditional. But now things are different, and there are choices involved.

[@julesdj913]

Yes

[@crappyaccount]

@@pandakicker1 If you're an adult who wants to live that lifestyle then none of the comments in this thread are about you. Most people don't care what you do. The issue is when literal children are forced into early marriage and being a housewife.

[@MaMaBoO90]

As a mother of 2 young daughters I can't stand the thought of anyone even looking at them the wrong way. Let alone a whole party to find her a potential mate. It isn't the 1700s.

[@southparkfirefly]

I know ugh the only thought that should run through your mind when seeing the birthday girl is "Aww she's having fun"

[@amberg4131]

I’m the youngest of three, my dad taught us some stuff that I still, at the age of 34 hear about. But its all said with love❤

[@pandapuffzee8255]

The worst part, if you look it up most people of average classes got married around 16-20 years of age. It was only super wealthy that would get married super early and that was to create treaties basically.

[@bleakautomaton4808]

Exactly

[@Darkshizumaru]

That wasn't even the norm in the 1700's. Most people got married around mid 20s

[@heather_bee]

Marriage before 18 should be illegal. Case closed.

[@MizzBellaKitty]

1000% agree!

[@asharerbac1673]

Id even go so far as saying 21.... marriage is a beautiful and serious commitment (for those who want to marry of course, to each his own). I married young and it ended badly. I dont recommend anyone to get married before they get to know themselves and experience being themselves. Its important to be happy by yourself and learn to love yourself before you can do that for anybody else. I feel bad for this child, her mom is putting so much pressure on her, not to mention its illegal and were no longer living under king Henry the 8ths rule 😂

[@audreygibson4780]

18 sounds early to me lol

[@blufox7760]

Still doesn’t stop teens from getting pregnant tho

[@cuckywucky]

It is in most countries

[@DisneyDancer1990]

“I’m not trying to be offensive.” Be offensive, Ken, this woman and that mindset are atrocious.

[@jairai5922]

As a teen Mom, now 34 years old. WAIT TO HAVE YOUR BABIES!!!! 😂😂

[@mikesart]

Png

[@samanthaspeckman6648]

This. Had our first at 17. She is 14 now. We are 32. I always instill in her how important being young is. Experiencing life traveling college. Working. Having fun. That children can wait for when she is ready to settle down with kids.

[@spicydragon3881]

The mother seems like she had dreams as a child but hers were crushed by her mother, like she's trying to do to her daughter. The mother was made to clean and have babies now she's completely resentful and hates her life. This is a horrible woman.

[@TheDarkLord648]

It’s just a sad situation honestly :/

[@androgynousmaggot9389]

I try, but find it difficult to understand! Why would you want you kids to have the same unfortunate experience you had? And I'm taking from experience! I'm doing everything in my power my kids have a good and happy childhood! Why should I repeat my parents errors, when I know how miserable and unhappy I was? There's no excuse "oh he/she was abused, so it's understandable why his kids are also abused"! It makes no sense! So it's just a vicious circle! You're unloading your frustration on an innocent child! Maybe I'm the dumb one, but I just don't understand!

[@minilea144]

I dont think the mom was made to do anything. She married an outsider. When HE was cleaning the couch, that spoke volumes. I think she was trying to pawn off her daughter to try to get her family back. She resents him not making a lot of money, hence the snide remark about the men working. She may also resent not carrying on the tradition herself because she has no contact with her family. But her husband didnt make her have babies and clean. He seems like he would have supported any aspirations she may have just like he does with his daughter.

[@Krystal40553]

@@androgynousmaggot9389 I think maybe because they’re don’t know how to change, it can be very hard to change for some people and when having kids can be stressful they might default to what they know, abuse, when overwhelmed. Plus sometimes people who are abused get in bad/abusive situations because that’s all they know. They just feel trapped and hopeless. Well that’s what I think from my personal experience, and I’m happy you’re changing and being better but for some it can be very difficult to do so. My mom was horribly abused by her family (mother, siblings, cousins, uncles) and suffer all types of trauma, but vow to never be like her family when she had me and my brother. Unfortunately she had depression and was in a bad place with my dad (who was very neglectful and emotional abusive and very controlling) while she never beat us (as the thought of hitting us makes her cry and be reminded of her mother) but she did emotional abuse us by often locking us up in our rooms and pretending to abandon us when she got overwhelmed and angry or often compare our childhood to her (trauma dumping). My mom also emotionally cold due to her depression and my dad, she didn’t know how to be affectionate as no one showed it to her in a good way, she never read us books, never played with us, but made sure we’re safe and well taken care of, just not affectionate. My mom didn’t know her punishment was abusive in nature as she didn’t want to hit us but didn’t know what else to do as she was overwhelmed and often cry. She got better over the years and when I was 6 she and my dad got better and had my other siblings and became more affectionate mother with all of us. While still having some depressive episodes she’s way better and after a deep talk she realized her ways was not the best, she was better than her mom but she still became emotional abusive but in a different way, she deeply apologized while she knows there no excuse she said she didn’t know any healthy ways to handled her feelings and trauma. But she knows she can’t turn back time and deeply regretful for her actions and since then try to be more understanding and careful (even if she stopped being emotional abusive when my younger siblings were born). Despite that she’s a good mom and always supportive of me and my siblings, we trust our mom for help. It just she had some issues and flaws from her abuse, but she actually made steps to be better even if took awhile.

[@Psilomuscimol]

Ex wives mom

[@alittleaboutalot1602]

I hate when people try and pass off abuse as culture and 'tradition'

[@Chris_Underground]

It's called generational trauma

[@ironically_iconic9848]

@@Chris_UndergroundGeneration trama or not, it’s still abuse 💀 As an adult it’s your responsibility to deal with your issues.

[@bubblesawesome3284]

Right this is literally just white trash with a fancy name.

[@cellochel1582]

Or religion

[@LostInADaydream-13]

The fact that the West wants to act like this is only something that happens everywhere but here with it being thrown in our faces is astounding. Age of conscent and marriage needs to be 18 across the entire country and this behavior should be felonious child abuse punishable by a minimum of 10-15 years.

[@fizzliebob]

So glad this girl has her dad to watch out for her and protect her aspirations in life - 'cause there's no way her mum cares about her daughter's life outcomes...

[@Kimmyfuzzygogglepage]

It seems like the moms mom (grandma) maybe did the same thing and drilled it into the mom’s head, that this is a generational thing

[@SamRK-1000]

@@Kimmyfuzzygogglepagestill though, I wonder how that broke her mom’s brain and caused her to want to subject her daughter to the same thing she endured. Part of the requirement of being a good mother, AND PARENT IN GENERAL, is improving upon the way your parents treated you and not replicating their mistakes. If I endured horrific abuse I would think, emphasis on ‘think’, that if I got to a point of recovery and having a family I would give them all the best life possible and create a good environment without trying to take out my trauma and anger on my children.

[@fizzliebob]

@@SamRK-1000 She's essentially putting her relationships with her family above her daughter's well-being. She obviously rejected these traditions at one point, in order to marry her husband, but instead of recognising the family abandonment as a bad thing and starting a new family - prioritising the well being of her kids, she's blaming herself for rejecting those traditions. She's trying to make up for it by pushing her daughter 'back into' those traditions... Very unhealthy mindset to be having kids with

[@GlowingTrashPanda99]

The problem is that the mother still doesn't see that the manipulation towards herself, as a child, and the abandonment by her family, as a young adult, was abuse. She's still in a Stockholm-syndrome mindset that that was love. @@SamRK-1000

[@cheerfulsatanist]

If your only argument for keeping a tradition is that "...its the tradition!" This a pretty strong indicator that that particular tradition doesn't warrant preservation.

[@Kamenari37]

This kinda reeks of the mentality that goes with "My parents used to beat me as a child for any reason. If it was good enough for me, then it's good enough for my kids."

[@-Johnny_Kush-]

its weird how being a gipsy in the US is a point of pride, when in Europe you say you're a gipsy and everyone instantly dislikes your entire existence

[@brolyjr69]

I feel its the same here in the US. Unless your a Gipsy already.

[@Nikkistrict]

I wonder if it’s why they are so ballsy here. Its a shameful tradition to carry/force.

[@peniscaughtinzipper]

As well people should feel that way about them

[@robink.9966]

that's BS

[@kaylaryals8227]

Gÿpsÿ is a slur word against the romani people

[@Tobikoyum7]

Even that chihuahua is depressed about the conversation.

[@smile4clifford76]

i love that the little girl has a dad with a brain

[@roor6846]

And empathy

[@SamRK-1000]

I hope he becomes the protector for her and GETS HER OUTTA THERE. Finds some way to get custody of her and get her out of this child bride situation 😢

[@zoso1up]

Not with the courts 99% side with the mother

[@prettyevil6662000]

@@zoso1up That's a blatant lie. Reviews of custody situations prove that fathers who seek custody are just as likely to get it as the mother. Women get custody more often because men simply do not apply for it or do not want it. Men who apply for custody of their children, get at least 50/50 custody.

[@me1ody69]

​@@zoso1up i almost wish that was true

[@Lavender_and_lemonade]

I have an 8 year old daughter. I’m over here trying to make sure her childhood last as long as possible. I can’t imagine being like “find a man and have babies.” 🤢

[@MrSchism]

No Romani I've met has ever called themselves "gypsy" unless they're explaining it to someone.

[@bearicanorland]

Scrolled the comments hoping someone would say this! No Romani would call themselves a slur

[@swiggaroo6751]

Gypsies absolutely call themselves gypsies, it's just the normal name for it lol. It's not a slur. Yall think it's a slur because nobody likes gypsies and we talk about them poorly. Big difference. Call them Lettuce Heads if you like, we still disdain them all over Europe.

[@DeidresStuff]

​@@bearicanorland I have a theory that they're just Saltine Americans with a stupid fake family story like people who claim their great great grandma was a Native American.

[@Humans71]

Yeah I've known a few Romani people and never once have I heard them self-identify as Gypsy or even use the term.

[@mels607]

Americans calling themselves this are usually so far removed from the actual culture that they're mostly just white trailer trash at the end of the day. I think a good portion of them aren't even Romani but Irish Traveller, they just call themselves that because they think it sounds "cooler" or something idek. it's also kind of embarrassing how many of them get fake tans that are wayyy too dark.

[@ziffy8532]

Sounds like the mom wants company for her misery

[@Mr.Mandolin]

well you know what they say "misery loves company"

[@spiwolf6998]

I think she just wants to be accepted into her family again by trying to "right" her "wrong". That's sad but absolutely sick that they they want to marry off a child to get back in good graces of people like that. Say good riddance to that life style and be happy with your husband and your little girl while she's still young. She has plenty of time to get married and start a family after she secures her career.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@spiwolf6998 In Gypsy culture they get married at 16-18, so the mom pressuring her daughter to get married so young makes sense. It’s just sad that the daughter has aspirations, but the mom wants her to do what she wants because it’ll benefit her. She’s setting her child up to resent her.

[@CraigTravers]

Setting her child up to fail and follow her demands instead of becoming a woman herself​@@tiahnarodriguez3809

[@moonprincess500]

@@tiahnarodriguez3809that’s untrue now. First of all, they’re not called G*psies! They’re called Romani! Second: G*psy is a slur! A really bad one. Third: they’re not truly Romani!

[@apocodino3785]

Ken being genuinely supportive of the girl liking dragons and having interests and hobbies warmed my heart

[@Dvrkwulf]

That woman is rabid and strange. At 9, I was watching my little pony and picking my nose. This is so frustrating that this woman is part of that girl’s main support system 🤦🏾‍♀️ THANK GOD the dad’s normal

[@haleighelaine2596]

RIGHT like thank god someone has common sense, I think it’s weird that the mom is more worried about her finding a potential suitor at 10 when she should just be a kid and enjoy her childhood, I feel for these kids 😕

[@Mo-vu7jc]

"At 9, I was watching my little pony and picking my nose." It breaks my heart so much that this isn't standard across the board for so many kids, especially little girls 😭😭 LET KIDS BE KIDS oh my GOSH

[@coochie8670]

Why the dad would even marry this crazy cunt is beyond me. Her badussy must've been insane for her to manipulate him into marrying her.

[@SwampCeeMcGee60]

😂

[@coochie8670]

Ken keeps deleting my comments, fvck you. You know the mom is a pedophile, stop defending her.

[@Hayhay_notthechicken]

This is even worse because at 10 she’s probably BARELY if at all developing :(

[@victoriacruz3610]

I remember when my best friend was 13 and dating a 24 years old guy (her brother's best friend), and her parents were totally okay with that. Everyone was acting so normal about that, it was so weird and fcked up

[@Alice-si8uz]

There's 0 reason for a man that age to spend time alone with a girl that age unless he's family (even then there can be issues), defiantly not "dating him"

[@laurarobison1508]

She just wants to marry off her daughter so she doesn’t have to pay for her anymore.

[@nevaehonrefni]

Nah more likely the mom had her dreams crushed by her mother so now she's doing the same to her daughter. Misery loves company.

[@nevaehonrefni]

Not only that but she still was trying to fix her relationship with her family through her daughter because the mom "failed" her own family so she was outcasted. It's generational trauma speaking volumes.

[@Vaniity_Velvet]

@@nevaehonrefni Arranged Marriages are Gypsy things.

[@SamRK-1000]

@@nevaehonrefnioff topic but your pfp is interesting what is it from?

[@nevaehonrefni]

@@SamRK-1000 apex legends! It's the character wraith. I looked up art through Twitter and I forget the artist I have to look it up again every time lol

[@FerretsnCats]

People looking for suiters for their literal children always comes off "child-bride" and creepy

[@chillchica9626]

The reason it comes off as child bride is because that's literally what it is

[@alwayzatiger1]

It’s exactly that tho 😂

[@namasteavl]

Wait till you hear about bride kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan.

[@ChelleKT1]

It’s grooming by her own mother, no different to trafficking.

[@MrDevintcoleman]

When she said “what’s the difference between 14 and 40?” I really wished the guy had said something like “then let her wait until she’s 40. What’s the difference?”

[@davidking354]

Where is Child Protection Services???? Shame on the mother!!!

[@DullyDust]

The fact that they even talk about these things while the 10 year old is sitting there and listening to them.. yikes.. absolutely horrifying And the argument that "she wants it". No, lady, she has a built in need as a little child to make her parents proud of her

[@YouSuperJ]

Worst TLC mom will always be Mama June. She chose her daughters abuser over her daughter

[@Vincisomething]

Mama June vs Kate from Jon and Kate

[@jenallen5202]

Mama June wins for me but close.

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

​@@VincisomethingI'd like to throw Michelle Duggar into the ring; she made excuses for her son SA his sisters and another young girl.

[@user-zk5cn3mp6q]

It’s Michelle Duggar from 19 kids and counting for me 😬😬

[@spk128]

I agree with the mama June thing, but tlc definitely finds the lowest of low that will show how disgusting they are on camera for a buck.

[@lisapop5219]

Looking at the house, mom isn't living the tradition!

[@susanfrancisquez6190]

O gosh. My cousin was 13 when she had her first child, and her mom had her when she was 13. This young girl shouldn't be thinking about that stuff! She's still playing with dolls and ponies. She cant even handle a knife and fork like an adult lol. Geez

[@Alice-si8uz]

Yeah it defiantly stood out to me that girl needs OT... I wonder how it affects her writing

[@selenafanparasiempre]

It's just sad how much pressure is being put on this poor little girl. That statement she made about feeling like she's letting her parents down just broke my heart.

[@katielucas4594]

The dogs like "screw this you crazy people. Im pretending to sleep but im really masterminding a plan to get the hell outta here"😂

[@swagondragon9511]

My guy butchered the hell outa the word Chihuahua

[@JasmineVaughan]

Masterminding which couch cushion to pee on next 😂

[@2Blessed]

@@swagondragon9511 I legitimately could not figure out what they were trying to say until I read your comment - thank you!!!

[@bakaichigo]

@@2Blessed Lmao took me like three read throughs to realize they were talking about the dog :'D

[@katielucas4594]

@@swagondragon9511 I did that on purpose

[@davejrudy]

Ken & Dane: Film a gypsy reaction video. Also Ken & Dane: actually film a discussion video about mops and knife & fork etiquette.

[@tripleabattery2914]

Old man behavior. I love it😂

[@amberg4131]

Just old behavior. Ken’s around my age and things just keep on changing up. You realize products arnt being made to last, they are being made to be broken and have to have you go out and buy another one. Buffs line about the swiffers was spot on😅

[@Persephone01]

"Tradition". Yeah, its just gross and vile. Let her decide what she wants. The dad should divorce her and take custody of his daughter. Hes right though.

[@mikekuppen6256]

He now has video evidence of her saying she wants to marry off the kid at 14. That would probably help in court.

[@SamRK-1000]

Just cause it’s a tradition doesn’t always mean ya need to carry it on! I mean, killing people was part of traditions in some cultures and peoples in like 300 AD 💀 We stopped doing that because it’s WRONG!

[@Alice-si8uz]

@@mikekuppen6256 Even if it's not full custody having a parenting agreement would make it harder to marry her off young.

[@niamhmarie4713]

Big probs to this father for putting his foot down and protecting his daughter

[@theTwilightSystem]

If she's so miserable with her marriage and life, why does she want to force her kid to do it? And at an even younger age? They need to divorce and give dad the kid. And give the kid a good therapist because they've already done some serious damage to her mental state and self esteem.

[@theTwilightSystem]

Just saw the end, I really hope mom makes the change she says she's going to.

[@BeccasaurousRex270]

I think you mean mom has done considerable damage. Doesn’t seem like dad has done anything to damage her.

[@theTwilightSystem]

@@BeccasaurousRex270 growing up watching your parents fight all the time causes damage. Dad was involved in that. The fighting only happened because of mom, but it still has an impact from both parents.

[@SwampCeeMcGee60]

Trying to marry your 10-year-old off sounds predatory.

[@guichabanaano27]

Sounds to me like generational trauma. Her mother probably did that to her which makes her think it's normal to marry off a 10 yr old. Super sad and creepy

[@Immortal_coil4]

​@@guichabanaano27it's that plus predatory behavior.

[@MDreamerIsBi]

It *IS* predatory.

[@chirosk]

Exactly ​@@guichabanaano27

[@bubblingbubztheklown5902]

Props to the dad 🎉 there is some reason she married outside of the gypsy "culture" and hopefully she remembers why .

[@kassadymaree7827]

the fact a 9 year old is more mature than the parents put together, besides dad wanting to do what she wants, but also its still a fight because the mom, this mother is a life alert.

[@LewdsandComix]

ah yes. normal thought to have when looking at a child is "she must reproduce", right?

[@Psilomuscimol]

When all you care about is the biological purpose of procreation then yea. But normal people that want a good life before children, no

[@LoveMe0516]

HUGE shoutout to Dad for doing his best to protect his daughter. She’s precious and doesn’t need to grow up so fast. If there’s no difference between 14 and 40 by that logic she can wait ☺️

[@leviacronym6770]

I was stunned by how decent the dad was until they said he wasn’t one of them. She married the right dude for sure. He’s a good guy and I’m glad he doesn’t want to pimp his kid.

[@DenpotToysStory]

She wants her daughter to be like her.. relying on the tradition without working in the outside world. She doesn't care about the daughter's freedom and the law.

[@cartwheelsmcgee428]

Dudes.. i missed you guys! I use to religiously watch you guys every day for years on every lunch break.. always looked forward to it. Stuffs been crazy with everything going on so its been ALL POLITICS this last year. I miss seeing you guys on my feed again. brightens my day🤙😁

[@Hippiechick11]

That mom is so unhappy, why does she want this for her daughter.

[@AmyTheArtist9]

Classic example of "hurt people hurt people"

[@mikekuppen6256]

Because she married a non-Gypsy and isn´t as happy as she expected to be. Marrying an outsider brings shame on the family so they don´t want her anymore but maybe if she gets her daughter married back into the culture they will. She may even believe her daughter will be happier that way but I doubt that´s the main motivator.

[@chirosk]

She's jealous and mentally ill. Reminds me of my "mom"

[@KMRossy]

Hahaha it’s funny Ken brought up the fork thing! Growing up my family friend from New Zealand taught me “it’s a fork not a dagger” 😂

[@spulwasser]

Nah it's a multi purpose tool

[@meirin5316]

​@@spulwasserexactly! forks are the best!

[@coochie8670]

Forks can be used for a multitude of things.

[@FatBabyToodles]

😂lol strange that back in the day, TLC stood for "the learning channel" ....but since the reality tv boom in the 2000s, the learning part has been pushed out slowly to now zero!🤣

[@hylin4179]

Now it stands for "traumatic loony chaos" 😂

[@aprilmason1616]

I thought it stood for the lifestyle channel😅

[@starparodier91]

I mean, we’re technically learning something. It may not be useful, but we are learning… 😂

[@Pipes570]

We're learning "how not to live if we want to be respectable in society."

[@providencephillips8998]

I thought it meant “tender loving care” 😂

[@CHANCEINTUITIVE]

She’s so weird it just sounds like she’s jealous that she didn’t follow that tradition and wants to ruin her daughters life

[@bornonsaturdayYT]

The amount of times while watching this that I clapped my hands and yelled "Divorce!" is maddening. Dad needs to keep his daughter safe from that mom.

[@graveyardcharm]

I know it ain't right but I burst out in laughter when Ken was like "yOu GoTTA mArRy yEr cOUSiN"

[@PraviousFaboule]

Many of these episodes look like origin stories for serial killers

[@fancydeer]

Dad needs to get a divorce and take this child. I don't care if this shit is scripted or played up or whatever. If there's even a chance that this woman is pushing her TEN YEAR OLD CHILD to being a child bride this woman doesn't need to be a parent. JFC

[@iiasslouii3274]

*me, a 29 year old adult mouthing along with Ken as he says “stay toasty my friend. I love you, and see you next time’*

[@vexiamarionette2401]

shes literally trying to get rid of her kid, what a monster, wait till shes 16-18 and let her make a choice, not force it on her at 10 yrs old

[@brandythompson2171]

Since I was 10 people have told me id be a good mother. 10 years old. So....guess whos 30 and still doesn't have kids? Me. One of my biggest icks are people who tell children stuff like that.

[@brynleenorthcutt1339]

I feel that, I’ve seen a little girl (4) whose mom just had a baby. People kept calling her a “perfect little mother” as she held her baby sister and as the oldest parentified child I just stood there like :/

[@WhoTheHeckIsMeg]

I mean, if your family ends up on TLC, you probably have several problems as a parent.

[@burnerbaby26]

Dane’s laugh is one of the greatest sounds ever lol

[@meirin5316]

always has been haha

[@lillycarroll1771]

my great grandma immigrated from Hungary during the holocaust and let me just thank her rq bc she was a gypsy yet she didnt force it onto her daughters, probably because she knew THAT tradition was booty cheeks. still glad she kept up with the other aspects of it tho.

[@teddiihikari]

thankful my dad says we couldnt even think about dating until 16, this lady is nuts

[@audreyxatomic]

I appreciate that Ken didn’t hold back. I’m so tired of people that try to hide behind “culture” or religion to try to excuse toxic or evil behaviors. Obviously this isn’t a good depiction of “gypsies” in Europe, but even if it was it wouldn’t change whether or not you’re allowed to call this behavior out. If your culture defends trying to force children to marry older men and have babies before they’re even done going through puberty then your culture is gross and wrong and I’m not gonna apologize for stating the truth.

[@sicooper4230]

Gypsies in Europe no better believe me.

[@aarholodian]

Yeah this isn't a good depiction of gypsies in Europe. They're a lot worse here

[@audreyxatomic]

@@sicooper4230 yeah like I was saying, I know that’s not a good depiction of traditional gypsies…it’s kind of just white trash behavior but they use “culture” as a way to try to get away with certain things…

[@nixemory9903]

​@@sicooper4230 and our police hide behind "it's a protected characteristic" so as to not do anything about them 😒. Idgaf what they identify as, when they're harassing people, assaulting people, taking over private properties and refusing to leave, don't pay tax, marry children off to adults, abuse their animals, steal, intimidate vulnerable people, and don't do any proper education. We have a big problem with them intimidating people and lowering house prices so as to buy up towns, yet not paying tax bc they're "travellers" and their "culture" says they shouldn't need to.

[@abbiereynolds8016]

Here in Ireland our "gypsies" are called Travellers and are the exact same. They even marry their cousins to keep their gene pool "intact". It's very rare that they complete their education. They usually drop out at 13 or 14, next thing you see they're pushing a pram around the neighbourhood. They're often rowdy and get kicked out of shops a lot for shoplifting. I remember one time I was walking into my local shopping centre and they were getting kicked out by security. One of them wasn't looking where she was going and walked into me. Instead of apologising she called me a "fugly c*nt". What beautiful eloquent language😊

[@Nicholas_Brunette]

What did the mom expect. She is 10, what right guy would come to see if she is a prospect for the future. Good no one came!

[@gremlininblue2601]

Anybody coming to see a child to see if they think she'd 'be a suitable wife for themselves' is auto not a good person and should not only be avoided but also probably in jail

[@Potatoypotato]

This is an unfortunate part of trauma especially generational trauma. In abusive families you are often raised that your purpose is to fulfill the needs of your parents and so you spend your whole life chasing after their approval to the point where even when you become a parent you sacrifice your child to earn your parents love. It's a huge part of why breaking the cycle is so important. Cuz when you're raised by abusers who center themselves, you don't even realize how much your life is revolved entirely around them. And often these victims don't realize they're then sacrificing their children and thus becoming the abusers of their own children in the attempt to gain the love and approval of their abusers

[@nancy6746]

“What’s the difference if she’s 14 or 40?” Uh 26 years for starters

[@zoso1up]

Lmao

[@Thereal_hollywood]

The vacuum mop is called Tineco and it’s the freaking best invention ever!!! Love you both. You guys are hilarious!

[@feashaboo]

When parents utilize their kids to advance their own social standing or use them to make themselves “look good” it’s AWFUL. They care more about everyone else’s fleeting opinions more than their own child. It’s B.S.

[@OkamiSamaa]

14:45 the imagery of ken in his nike shirt, and catgirl anime ears, prancing around with an old english accent, with no context, has to be one of the weirdest things to ever come across

[@Psilomuscimol]

Best things. Or secksiest things.

[@SamRK-1000]

“Our arrows will blot out the sun!! And then we will kiss in the shade” type vibes a little bit 😂

[@TechnoGhosty]

if your family could only accept you back if you married your 10 year old daughter off to another gypsy... feels like you should question the ethics and morals of your family, i dont know if that was her using that as a cop out for the show to make it a "happy ending" or if she genuinely thought that would earn the respect of her family back, but even her not seeing anything wrong with marrying her child off is extremely alarming as it is

[@MrStreaty122]

“Find her a husband-“, “what’s the difference between 14 and 40?”, “she has to carry on the tradition.” Forcing your children to marry and have kids before the legal age of consent sounds a lot like human trafficking to me. If the mom keeps pushing this, the dad needs to file for divorce and full custody because this “tradition” is not only highly illegal, it’s extremely dangerous

[@Gemini540]

17:49 "Have a seat, have a seat" Me expecting Chris Hanson has already shown up 😅 The party was a sting operation!

[@juju58]

No I think the WORST TLC mom is still Kate Gosslin.

[@Vincisomething]

Oof yup.

[@haleighelaine2596]

I think they should review her next

[@nyomicasey]

Why? Idk the lore

[@Vincisomething]

@@haleighelaine2596 deep dive it

[@un1c0rnpuk3]

@@nyomicaseyi would look up a deep dive because its so mucj

[@L33tinfusion]

The way people treat their children, she is 10, let her be 10 and be a child, what??

[@Jenna22919]

I just know the kid is going to hate her mom when she is older and see how much her dad loves her

[@mosaicofmentalhealth]

She's trying to force a life onto her child that she's clearly not even happy with. Make it make sense.

[@Fenalize]

The revelation about how Americans use cutlery in meals.... My dad was so so strict about table manners. Even when eating fries, use your cutlery. Always use cutlery. He always said: "If the queen came to visit, you need to be able to compose yourself properly." (While being a middle class family lols)

[@mzsharboneau]

I feel like it is this toxic mom that makes people think that being a stay at home mom is oppressive and demeaning. For the record, being a homemaker is nothing like how she portrays it to be. That is domestic slavery.

[@rubygarcia3327]

Thank you for sticking up for the homemakers ❤

[@LakinMae5]

It as to be a willing choice or else it just lead to resentment.

[@pom_likes_to_watch]

Homemaker husband here, I couldn't agree more!

[@mikesart]

​@@rubygarcia3327on everything I'm going to be a house husband at the same time just in case my husband decides to start acting different or something happens I'm going to keep money in the backup just in case he could pass away and then we can't pay the bills he could get laid off and we can start arguing it sometimes you just need to be able to have an Escape Route or he might be outright abusive so you have to make sure you have enough f*** you money to get the hell out of there

[@briannbae]

I literally can't stop watching the zig zag edit line between Ken and Dane. It's so mesmerizing. (I might be high) LMAO

[@everlastingenvy]

How do these mothers have no sense of needing to protect their children, how do they not see the problem here?

[@Darkshizumaru]

100% this woman wants her daughter out asap. She wants grandkids yesterday because she doesnt want to have anymore herself but wants to play with a baby i think. Mom's trash, Dad's class.

[@foxdrawer7990]

Unfortunately, it’s still legal in some states to marry your child off at such a young age. The state only cares about the parents consent and not the child’s.

[@gemma9411]

Multiple skin tags are common in people with diabetes or insulin resistance.

[@arc8584]

Really sad cause clearly both the mom and dad are not happy in their relationship. She is very unpleasant to be married to, clearly. Dad wants her to have a chance for better because he knows better, but mom wants to shoe horn her into an even worse position than she had out of literal hate. She hates her life, and she's determined to make her daughter suffer like she did out of a twisted sense of fairness. It's vile.

[@charliejoy27]

Me and Dane eat steak the same way. To this day my parents call it eating my "Steakcicle".....