*WOW* Browns new Brook Park Stadium a done deal?

[@Fitzsimmons.]

Stadiums should have like a 50-year life minimum... renovate don't threaten to relocate. This is getting absurd. There should also be little government funding. Some congressmen should propose a law with a 10% max for all levels of government. Sports teams make so much money that stadiums tend to not benefit the community coffers (as per virtually all studies on the issue). This whole stadium frenzy in North American needs to stop.

[@ChildOfThe1970s]

I know, look at Wrigley Field and Fenway Park, each over a century old. Now if a stadium gets to be 20 years old it's considered obsolete lol.

[@WolfiTube]

Have you ever been to first energy? It blows

[@theedwardsramily1353]

I agree kinda but if they aren't in good shape then we need a new Stadium

[@buckeye2246]

I've been there for four games over the years, and my impression each time is that the stadium is just fine. There are no bad sight lines (each time I sat in a different part of the stadium), the atmosphere is great, and I've always enjoyed the experience. If it were up to me, they'd never leave the lakefront. It is part of the identity of the team.

[@theedwardsramily1353]

@@buckeye2246 My uncle Jeff and his family has seen all the Browns games and likes the Stadium

[@retrogaminggenesis6102]

I feel like such a minority opposing this. We've been on the lake forever, I love the lake and I love being a cold weather team. The mentality really has shifted in the last ten years.

[@joshuakacik9458]

The city of Cleveland will never let the Cleveland Browns leave the lake front they will renovations to Cleveland Browns stadium. And the Cleveland Browns will have a 30 year lease again.

[@Mrcharles.]

I’m with you on that. Playing football in an outdoor environment is much more satisfying and enjoyable than a domed stadium with artificial turf. At this point college football is more exciting than pros if all stadiums are indoors

[@LIL-MAN_theOG]

Because you can't use the effin place outusfe GameDay and a few concerts. Who wants a place on taxpayer dime you use 10 times a year. GET A DAMN DOME

[@retrogaminggenesis6102]

​@@LIL-MAN_theOGHow about no? And how about taxpayers stop paying for these stadiums?

[@NHLCrazy2007]

You are not alone.

[@rayspooner1982]

I dont understand why a 25 year old stadium needs to be replaced. 25 should be considered brand new in stadium years. Do a renovation.

[@bossfan61]

I think the Braves and Falcons both got new stadiums inside that 25 year window. Texas Rangers, too.

[@fatzotv]

Especially because browns have been dog shit for the last 25 years lol

[@onlyonezay419]

Lmao I swear most of These comments have never stepped foot into Cleveland browns stadium. It’s super outdated and it’s sitting in outside in one of the coldest cities in America during the winter. Just a year or so back we had a -8 degree game and they basically had to give tickets away because no one wants too sit in those uncomfortable conditions.

[@StS9LBJ23]

Titans in the same situation as Cleveland and they’re getting a 2 bill new stadium. It’s all about the ownership’s vision of the future of the franchise. Some franchises succeed, some are the browns.

[@rayspooner1982]

@onlyonezay419 I get that it's outdated, but a 25 year old stadium shouldn't need to be demolished and rebuilt, it should be renovated. Also I hate the "it's cold here" argument. Football is an outdoor winter sport meant to be played in the cold and snow. At this rate football will be a completely indoor sport in 30 years.

[@joedimaggio3687]

The taxpayers should enjoy having their taxes raised to pay for this stupidity.

[@onlyonezay419]

Lmao it’s going to brook park and being mainly paid for by Jimmy 🤣

[@onlyonezay419]

These comments show how much research folks put into the KZbin content they watch lol

[@5ohstang12]

​@@onlyonezay419he said he ain't putting up money nothing significant

[@91_C4_FL]

Crazy. There’s nothing wrong with their current stadium. The Browns could get another 15-20 years out of it with minimal renovations.

[@natevart4156]

Exactly. But they want to host events year round and that can’t happen in the current situation. I say they suck it up. Every team can’t host the Super Bowl

[@firebird200]

@@natevart4156Fax, Cleveland needs to stay for a few more years

[@aricolson7350]

😂 that stadium is so bland and outdated. It was built before the Browns were a team again so they never got to choose what they wanted. Also they want to host a Super Bowl and other events year round.

[@91_C4_FL]

@@natevart4156 Agreed. The Bills embraced that. I think their new stadium will be a future classic. It’s not a translucent roof cookie cutter.

[@91_C4_FL]

@@aricolson7350 Bland how? And that’s a lot of money to spend to only host one Super Bowl.

[@williamdobbs6740]

So basically, the original Browns played at Cleveland Municipal Stadium for 50 years and then left because of it. Now the new Browns will get their second new stadium in less than 30 years. 😕

[@jartstopsign]

This trend of replacing 25 year old stadiums and screwing the public is lunacy

[@SirManfly]

Funny how teams couldn't wait to move downtown where all the "action" is and now teams want to move back out to the suburbs !

[@johneckert1365]

100%

[@mjp96]

Not getting my money. I have seen enough fantastic games in my 61 years. Go Browns!!

[@mjp96]

@@SirManfly The problem is there's no easy way to get to that place, without driving. And then you can't drink!

[@SirManfly]

@@mjp96 That sucks!! 😳

[@MrCHAIRMANOFTHEBORED]

If the stadium in the thumbnail is a rendering of the proposed new BROWNS stadium 🏟️, I believe it needs a redesign,as this one looks like a Cabela's or Bass Pro Shop, which are awesome stores, and if Jimmy and Dee insist on a domed stadium,it sure as hell should be a retractable roof closed only during thunder and lightning storms that occur during BROWNS games GO BROWNS 👍

[@MrMac1138]

They have to put a lot of it underground due to the proximity to the airport.

[@Nater99]

That Thumbnail rendering looks like a massive shopping mall, not an NFL Stadium.

[@onlyonezay419]

People who don’t get it. Brook park is literally 10 miles down the road & since it’s going too Brook park. Most of that money will be paid for by Jimmy if it’s moved too Brook park. The guy in the video didn’t mention that the only way the city of Cleveland would be taxed would be if they make the renovation cost downtown …

[@kjorlaug1]

Cities need to keep assisting with funding for no other reason than to lock teams into 40+ year leases. It's insane to build new stadiums every 20-30 years

[@sirchi8731]

That could help

[@jono1432]

Jimmy, you're worth $8 billion. Sell some assets and pay for it yourself.

[@ericradford2142]

Where did you hear that?

[@Preston1298]

fr 😅

[@wineguy9348]

Word of advice. Don’t EVER threaten to move Browns out of Cleveland area.

[@onlyonezay419]

Brook park IS the Cleveland area lmao

[@oopsthegreat5007]

We're talkin about 15 minutes at worst... Not that big a deal...

[@TheOldTapeArchive]

Better word of advice...NEVER build a dome for an OUTDOOR sport.

[@Mrcharles.]

@@TheOldTapeArchive Those are great words of advice. Both Green Bay and Buffalo would probably agree with you.

[@onlyonezay419]

@@TheOldTapeArchive ok grandpa

[@joshposey6636]

Keep the team outdoors no more dome stadium...

[@jasonkyle7496]

Just put a dome on the current one. The wind coming off the lake in November is BRUTAL.

[@GOLDKW-bl4gp]

Looks like a nice looking stadium. Outside looks bland but overall it is better than most of the stadiums build in the 90's. Opened in 1999 and Raymond James(Tampa) opened in 1998. RayJay is still okay. 50-50 split between owner and tax payers. 50-50 split in revenues with the tax payers. No, I did not think so. I hope it has to go on a ballot. 1.2B+ is a lot of money to trust shyster Commissioners.

[@ChildOfThe1970s]

I can't imagine the Browns playing anywhere other than the lakefront. I had been to the old stadium several times in the early 90s and it's a scenic and nostalgic location. I recall the seagulls flying around. Sad to see them leave that location if they do.

[@mysteryhombre81]

They should find a way to not make it artificial turf, and keep it real grass. Also whats wrong with the current stadium?

[@drewferd2720]

The only way is to either have a retractable roof to let the sun in or a rollout field like Arizona. Cost wayyyyyyy more to do that.

[@Mrcharles.]

Nothings wrong with the current stadium. I think it’s perfectly fine. I would actually prefer to watch a game outside with the elements compared to one that’s inside and boring.

[@theedwardsramily1353]

Things will be different for home teams like Tennessee Jacksonville BALTIMORE at Neutral sites till Their own Stadiums are finished

[@rockvilleraven]

Ravens will make renovations to M&T Bank Stadium during the off seasons for the next 4 years.

[@Mrcharles.]

@@rockvilleraven At least Baltimore is keeping their stadium. Such a vibrant atmosphere when the ravens play there

[@theedwardsramily1353]

@@rockvilleraven Awesome

[@darionrob]

as a browns fan who lives in cleveland i want them to move to Brookpark im closer to the new site anyway 😂

[@davidlewis2681]

Yessssssss!!!!!! Lets do this !!!!!

[@JayWhite-w6d]

That stadium should NOT have been built at that site, but we had 3 yrs without a team. It's time for this city to make lakefront a TOURIST trap. Needs hotels, restaurants, a boardwalk, etc .. City hasn't done NOTHING to revitalize downtown since the river, lake cleaned up and boating grew in 1980s. Build domed stadium and we can have year round events.

[@Pat9201]

These cities need to start standing up to these teams and tell them to build it themselves or fuck off. I can see a kansas city or new Orleans but Clevelands stadium is 25 years old.

[@rickylenczewski468]

A domed stadium on the water, and get rid of the airport down there and open hotel, shops and restaurants on the water , and it’ll cause Cleveland to boom with tourism, concerts , sporting events , for year round use . Only thing I think it NEEDS is good ole fashioned grass.

[@markmiller4971]

Lots of hazardous materials concerns I'd bet. Keep an eye on it.

[@ToryHarris-k6v]

The majority doesn’t want this! Brookpark is not The Land

[@bigpaulie7887]

I think the Art Modell law is smart but it doesnt apply here! I saw something somewhere a few weeks back or maybe months and a Lawyer talked about it! Not sure if it was on ESPN or a Podcast on KZbin but I do know dude said that rule or Law was more for if they try and move out of State not to a different part of the City or the outskirts of the city. The rule/law was great for Columbus Crew because Im glad Jimmy and Dee Haslam and the others bought the Crew so they could stay here in Columbus!! But for the case of the Browns it just seems like it wont work. Its not like Brook Park is on the other side of Toledo or in Indiana! If its going to get the Browns a new dome stadium and a surrounding area with bars, restaurants, hotels and parks plus the possibility of a Super Bowl, huge concerts, maybe a Final Four or a College Football Playoff game not to mention all the revenue for the City and State then why not. I understand Cleveland doesnt want to lose that revenue and the Team but if they dont want to pay for it and the State has already said they dont have the money but Brook Park steps up and says they will pay $1.2 or $1.4 billion money talks! This is an interesting twist for sure! @DG you are right near there is it far enough from Cleveland that you think the Modell Rule/Law will be effective?

[@billtooke6642]

This is ridiculous. Arrowhead and Highmark (to say nothing of Lambeau) have been around more than twice as long & only now are we getting a new Highmark and potentially a new Chiefs stadium. Replacing stadiums from barely a quarter of a century ago is outrageous, outside of a true dump like what was FedEx Field.

[@ToryHarris-k6v]

Anyway… How do you hear this stuff and we don’t?

[@mdit21]

I think it's crazy that stadiums are running into the billions of dollars (and likely to undergo updates and renovations through its lifespan).

[@nicholasuszko]

So a clarification on the Art Model law, that only applies if they have a active lease, if the lease expires, then the law is moot.

[@nikm4253]

Depressed Ginger won't be depressed anymore if this stadium gets built!

[@TheOldTapeArchive]

He'll be on a 24 hour suicide watch if they build an oper air stadium.

[@bigpaulie7887]

I think the comparison to New Orleans is because of the population maybe because they are very close!! Just not sure why else they bring it up!!

[@NHLCrazy2007]

This is beyond idiotic. Just renovate the downtown stadium. Ridiculous.

[@spg5658]

Yep

[@thisizcle140]

Cant put whip cream on shit

[@MikeBNumba6]

Going to miss seeing the lake in the background. Who's idea is this? Just stupid

[@jcbuckeye]

Renovate what? Add a dome? It would cost almost as much as a new stadium to do that.

[@SirManfly]

@@jcbuckeye It's too bad because Browns stadium is so eye appealing !

[@ericjencson9489]

Jimmy Haslam will get whatever he wants.

[@derricknichols5787]

Why near airport? What's the benefitof playing near one?

[@jeffhenjes1722]

Arrowhead in KC will renovate a 52 year old stadium. Still one of the best in the NFL, you couldn't replace it anyway.

[@michaeldegaetano4497]

You cant renovate that stadium. Where are you going to play for 2 years?

[@neanderthalsnavel7411]

Move to Brookpark! Screw the city. And screw all those parking lots that have been stealing from us for 25 years.

[@lunatik316]

THIS

[@lcc1902]

Everything would be good if Brookpark would just become apart of Cleveland...... If they did so they wouldn't have to pay as much money also🎉🎉🎉

[@Brian-lc4wz]

Brook Park is a suburb of Cleveland right? So, what's the big deal leaving Cleveland? They want to host major events besides the NFL. A lot of these other events can bring in lots of money to the cities. I don't like the taxpayers have to pay half though. These billionaire owners should pay for their own stadiums. The politicians are in bed with the owners you can see the money flowing out of these politicians pockets.

[@mysteryhombre81]

Browns aren't getting a superbowl lol. There's not enough amenities in cleaveland. Leg alone brook park.

[@michaelstenback1598]

finland loves browns

[@theedwardsramily1353]

Should I make a Browns video for my KZbin Channel

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

What do Brook Park citizens think of their City Council's support for this? Do they want this? If so, make that town pay for it.

[@otherwxyz]

not sure if u saw yet but they put out a real nice 2min video of the whole brookpark plans. . . also last i heard it isnt gonna happen but things change, who knows. GO BROWNS

[@budmcnew7763]

What's wrong with the current stadium?

[@RYMAN1321]

I’ve heard many say it’s outdated and can get brutally cold in the winter. Not to mention I’ve heard many say it was rushed .

[@supremeb3563]

Depressed Ginger, are you from Cleveland, Ohio area? Out of all the NFL stadiums, you say the Brown's stadium is a good stadium, but crap on other stadiums like Jacksonville (you never been there), Houston (you never been there) and even new stadium like Raider's stadium (you never been there), saying it's bland. Wow!

[@CoreyParsons-b8q]

Brook park is only a 18 minute drive from Cleveland down the highway. Pending traffic they ain’t moving far 🤣🤣🤣

[@Samtheman85844]

Thank you for the update.

[@thisizcle140]

He didnt update shit.....i live in Cleveland there aint no new news......this dude blowon hot air

[@ShoresyChirps]

I would prefer to have a dome in downtown, but Haslam explored that option and it couldn't happen. People act like moving the Browns 15 miles down the road is the same as them moving to Baltimore. The current stadium looks like shit, and they don't own the land the current stadium is on. This is probably a done deal by now.

[@mickgogle2125]

I can't wait to see the browns new stadium !!!!

[@MrMac1138]

Brook Park can't pay for a stadium and the state of Ohio won't pay. Nor will Cuyahoga County because so many of the constituents will not want to there, further west and away from prominent suburbs on the East side like Solon, Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights, Mayfield Heights, etc. I doubt the County Commission would approve funding. Brook Park only has 18,000 people. People in Westlake, Bay Village, and North Olmsted might support it. But I doubt it will get a ton of support and prominent members of the Ohio legislature have said the state will not kick in money for it.

[@jordanwheeler6678]

Not what I’m hearing brook park gave them a proposal that the browns can’t refuse

[@SirGabrielXXXL]

This isn't news right now,towards the end of the year is what we would be looking at

[@bigredd1574]

change name of brook park to browns park..

[@willremalia963]

Brook park doesn't even have a pool or a working hot tub at there local gym it need a lot of work too but they want this stadium

[@danrowe1174]

I don’t really like going downtown. A suburb sounds good.

[@BoulderCityBlues]

They will still lose no matter where they play ..Use the money to pay good players instead of a new stadium

[@ICB-mj3xg]

If they gonna make a new stadium please don’t make the upper deck steep asf

[@nortonhatfield7312]

If the browns were to move out of cleveland again, they would have to change their name. The city of cleveland owns the rights to the cleveland Browns franchise name and history.

[@elguapoguano]

Personally I'm all for it. Current stadium is cold AF, even in September. A closed roof stadium could be used year round, even host a Super Bowl.

[@Mrcharles.]

I’m against this move. Football is a game meant to be played outside. Some of the best moments during the season happen when a snowstorm or wind blows through the stadium. It’s probably why packers and bills fans are some of the greatest in the NFL.

[@edalexander6155]

Brookpark is there best option. To open in 2028. They wouldnt have to leave. Play at the current municipal grave yard. JIMMY will find a way out of Cleveland if your not going to build a dome of some sort there. Believe Goodell cant stand Cleveland and he would help Jimmy to get them out of Cleveland. Raiders had no problem moveing for the 3rd time.

[@neanderthalsnavel7411]

Haslam has been acting frustrated with Cleveland city since he bought it.

[@edalexander6155]

It starts with the logo I believe. City dosnt like change. No change no superbowl. I'll say it and keep saying it no logo on one of those helmets. No superbowl

[@Pitchithard]

All this professional sports is way out of control.

[@tech4life884]

Cigarettes in Cleveland are already $10-16 a pk. More taxes because of a new stadium is just ridiculous.

[@eugenestrawberry1835]

I'm a Browns fan. I want a Dome.

[@joedimaggio3687]

Do you want to pay for it?

[@danna172]

It supposed to have a dome stadium when they first built it they had sign on all building they Knocking down they said future dome stadium but they never built it

[@BryanMathis-rq7nt]

What's going to happen is the Haslems are going to say "F" your Modell rule law or whatever it is, lose naming rights move elsewhere and get Super Bowl rings like the Ravens is your not careful (Cleveland).

[@MrBeyondbelief]

Where is Brook Park??

[@jordanwheeler6678]

It’s a suburb in of Cleveland like a 15 min drive away from the actual stadium it’s self

[@saadesigner07]

They spent a bunch of money on renovations just few years back. The biggest problem is parking in downtown, and the brutal weather on the lake. The amount of money to put a roof on a 25 yr old stadium is not really worth it. Building in the suburbs with lots of parking would be amazing. I love going to Browns games, but every Dec-Jan game I have been to has been absolutely miserable.

[@dogcowrph]

Let them play at the Rubber Bowl… oh, I guess it’s been Rubblized already.

[@jeffreyreyes6800]

Don't threaten browns fans with another move learn from history Haslam

[@anthonyg2859]

Browns playing indoors? PATHETIC

[@johnrickettsjr3463]

Cleveland Browns I think they should not build a done I really think you're getting away from football with all these dumb stadiums NFL might as well be called Arena football who played a game outside outdoors is national football Cleveland's been like that all their history I don't think they should get it done but that's probably what they going to do anyway they probably ain't going to get no super bowl but the host of super bowl and they don't like the Detroit Lions

[@jcbuckeye]

Click bait

[@tech4life884]

Brookpark is still in Cleveland. Brookpark is a suburb of Clevelands Westside.

[@sawmillguy9706]

Haslam is a grifter

[@alnagy1700]

Hell ya LFG!! Theres a reason major acts avoid Cleveland the venues are shit

[@thisizcle140]

Hey people.....u cant put whip cream on shit......the stadium sits in bybthw far the worst spot for weathering.......how do YOU actually think u should renovate a stadium that gets ate by Cleveland winter EVERY YEAR???.??? Some of yall are wildly slow......

[@jamescrawford9643]

Psst...safety could be an issue. People come early and stay late and spend $. Downtown isn't safe these days and fans book after the game taking their money home! Brook Park location would be a lot easier to attend safely. Let's be real...war games have just begun! Bang! Bang! GO BROWNS 2024!

[@tigercap100]

For the 3rd time, it's not New Orleens. It's pronounced New Orlians

[@edalexander6155]

It might be the right move for the Browns in brookpark that is. Build it it will come. This could put us in a superbowl mode. We should have already been there. ⬜️🟫🟧🟫⬜️