WoW Legion Alpha: Destruction Warlock Is Finally Here - Is It Good?

[@faolon9343]

Voidwalker has been hitting the gym.

[@Zagrash]

+Faolon definitely Steroids ...

[@Fred-yd8qb]

+Zagrash Uchiha Bro, he's got mad gains and dedication. No need for steroids.

[@eppleptic]

+Zagrash Uchiha roids from the void

[@Leahalmahi]

+Fred 100% natty? Look at his traps

[@JoseHernandez-em3rp]

+Zagrash Uchiha bruh...12 years it took him to get shredded...no need for that pussy WWE shit

[@opusopus2047]

Goodbye burning embers, we will miss you U.U

[@opusopus2047]

+NoTruth asstits

[@Carefaceeeee]

+Mark Vader i wont. I kinda like this ,should be interesting.

[@Gordon3171]

I will miss the glyph to make the embers appear as Fel-orbs floating above my head ala Kael'Thas T_T

[@kkyyee]

Warlocks were fun in MoP

[@Requzz]

+Kye Riehl i hope in legion again

[@mcoxXxol7221]

+Kye Riehl and too op

[@kaesi6118]

only because you could move and cast.

[@Sabre912]

lol locks are op now

[@fraggy28]

yeah no doubt. i hated when they took off Kil jaden cunning

[@johna.5272]

I've played a Destro Lock as my main since MoP. Really disappointed with how they've changed things in WoD and now with Legion. MoP revamp of Locks was a step forward for Destro and now Blizz has taken two steps back. Yeah Warlocks were incredibly overpowered in MoP, but a lot of that was due to how ridiculously stupid powerful they made caster trinkets and gear. (There are warlocks who could progress in Siege naked with only a trinket they were that OP) The way the class was played though was incredibly fun back then, and Blizz has been messing with all that made the rotation work well. First they ruin Chaos Bolt with Charred Remains, and then blamed Burning Embers as the problem rather than their own awful talent. Now our entire spec is basically dependent on RNGesus, and it's going to hurt Destro to the point of it being unplayable.

[@no.4613]

I'm with you bro. I'm no longer maining a Destro lock until bliss gets their shit together.

[@MadDunhill]

taking away basic abilities and then introducing them back as talents. hate it.

[@kennethmccarty362]

why must they ruin all my main specs

[@notes9465]

as a destro main, i agree completely with your points on burning embers, i feel as if blizzard are making the classes around there tri/quad specs making it easier to manage for people who don't know what they are doing, instead of rewarding people who spend the time to learn the ins and outs of each spec, i mean i understand why blizzard is doing this, most of the games populous is casual players who don't have the time to learn every spec but at the same time it is leaving the older players little to no sense of joy when they play there class perfectly manage everything to the best of there ability.

[@Ubernaught012]

With the game being live now, I imagine you understand how punishing it is to just swap specs around. Artifact power really sets you into one spec unless you want to start over again in your artifact.

[@notes9465]

Ubernaught012 yeah i actually didn't even bother leveling my warlock until 2 days ago i can't invest in a class that will be made bad in future patches, i'm currently playing arms warrior because of there ability to not die until the buffs and nerfs hit, as currently all warlock specs don't seem to be doing much at all,

[@OmegaSoypreme]

Soul Shards instead of Embers feels really lame for destro. Being engulfed in green fire was such a fun part of the spec! They could keep this new functionality for all I care, but they should just leave the resource as burning embers. Also drain life feels wrong. More of an affliction ability.

[@madness3840]

+superchief86 Agreed.

[@TheLorefiend]

+superchief86 I agree about the first part, but Warlocks by nature use Fel and Shadow magic, which have a tendency to consume life. Drain Life's always been a core warlock ability in my eyes and I was sad to see it taken and made into a spec-specific ability. Glad to see it come back, because now we again have a source of life to fuel our Fel magic - our enemies!

[@OmegaSoypreme]

AGuyWithBigHair Oh don't get me wrong. Thematically the draining of life is awesome for warlocks. I meant more the channeled spell. Mechanically I prefer the leaching just being attached to their cast spells. Stopping and channeling feels wrong for destro. It's like a moment of quiet in what should be all chaos, all the time.

[@Ayayron_e3]

+superchief86 rip drain mana

[@TheLorefiend]

***** As long as Destro is only/mainly fire spells, it will always feel like Fire Mage. To better differentiate it, we should get more spells like the Dimensional Rift from Scepter of Sargeras. We could shoot out Fel Lightning, raise tainted earth as spikes in the ground. Just, different stuff than only fire!

[@vladimirseven777]

Conflagrate generates 1 Chi and Chaos Bolt costs 2 Chi (purple Chi). Or: Conflagrate generates 1 Combo point, but unlike rogues warlocks are ranged. For now.

[@korvvalle]

+Vladimir Olegovich what

[@tannerh3838]

pretty much

[@jbplayer11]

+Dippingsauce I completely agree

[@SirMalorak]

+Vladimir Olegovich You forgot Holy Power bro. So many classes have combo point-y systems now, I agree. It's annoying.

[@vladimirseven777]

Kerkelinker Paladin's Holy Power absolutely different: there is not 5, there 3+2.

[@biglittleyeti8870]

One of the blizzard developer said in Legion they want every class/spec to be different yet they change embers to soul shards, Good one blizzard haha.....

[@1Kelvar]

+Koala#1 Embers are indeed what made the spec special both cosmetically and how it functioned

[@jos3309]

Dimensional Rift can be cast while moving, just wanted to add that :)

[@Kjffred]

i really like the way you narrate. not just because your voice is pleasing to listen to, but also because you are efficient with the way you convey information. there is another youtube guy that makes 1 hr overview videos full of tangents. you are the b-e-s-t

[@tannerh3838]

i couldnt agree more!

[@GodKingOrca]

dat Nobbel log in at the end lol

[@lurklimit8378]

damn Shadowfury is now casted

[@TheSharyat]

Don't get why people are shitting on this so much, it really isn't that different compared to all the other specs, most of which have been completely remade, and the differences they have made in my opinion aren't that bad.

[@hnjahnjah]

+Lucas Sharyat Because before you actually had to have at least part of a brain to play the specc,i.e. you watch out for trinket procs and cooldowns to line up for maximum CB damage...this in comparison is a lot like Arcane mages are right now in HFC-utterly reliant on RNG to do crazy damage. Feels like buying a lottery ticket every time i get into an encounter,so no thanks from someone who played Warlock since TBC. I prefer speccs that are more reliant on finding a good balance between spells and executing it rather then praying to RNGsus before every raid to have magically good numbers.

[@moyga]

+Lucas Sharyat I'm going to guess you don't even play Destro or if you do, not at a high level. Let me explain it to you: Burning embers to soul shards = bad New mastery = bad Removing demonic portal, Backdraft, FnB and Shadowburn from baseline and severely dumbing them all down = bad Removing dark soul = bad Mana tap = horrible maintence buff Adding life tap to Destro = bad Adding a cast time to shadowfury = bad We generally wont have shadowfury or burning rush, when we did before due to the rows they have been placed on. The artifact ability is just a pure damage spell, has no interactivity or complexity. Havoc was also dumbed down. The list goes on.

[@TheSharyat]

moyga That's not explaining, that's a list of things that you personally didn't like, and yes I did play destruction and I think the changes are fine.

[@moyga]

Lucas Sharyat If you look at the Warlock forums and the Destruction Alpha feedback thread you will see most people posting don't like these things. You did play it, what, like a little bit on an alt? I guess you enjoy lowering the skill cap and RNG. >_>

[@TheSharyat]

moyga You're assuming a lot of things, no I have a max level warlock that I regularly play. To me these changes are making the spec less awkward and slow to play, actually letting you focus a bit more on the encounter rather than being a slow turret class.

[@ghstrdio]

Warlocks have been changed SOOOOO much over the years.

[@DylanCJones]

I'm fucking sick of RNG telling me how good I can be.

[@KsanUwU]

+Dylan C. Jones arent we all, only place its tolerable is runescape

[@DylanCJones]

And I stopped playing runescape when I started playing wow :(

[@zwolf-cf5rk]

+Dylan C. Jones #firemagelife

[@Gewsfrahba]

+Dylan C. Jones chaos bolt in dota did random damage and had a random stun duration, perhaps that is how it was in warcraft? chaos = random gameplay

[@KsanUwU]

Gewsfrahba chaos did massive damage to everything, not random

[@MRAWSOME6698]

I believe you have underestimated the potential of soul conduit and shadowburn since 5 shadowburns > 2 chaos bolts = more procs/more single target. I imagine once gear also takes place the damage will be buffed alot. Plus you also need to consider the chaos bolt cast time and global cooldown compared to shadowburns instant cast.

[@MRAWSOME6698]

+Aussie Thunder I also believe, from my experience of maining a Destro warlock through the whole of mop and WOD that the removal of Darksoul isn't that bad. It was a flat critical strike increase when used and isn't really that exciting. Would rather have interesting gameplay rather than cooldowns. This is coming from someone who killed mythic Archimonde before the valor item upgrade system was re-introduced.

[@HavocHounds1988]

Fire and Brimstone was the ability. Gameplay seems to be set up around using your imp, since it deals more damage to targets that have your immolate on them. I'm thinking the mastery for Destro is so random to capture the fantasy, being that it's just pure chaos.

[@saschasprengler6564]

The lvl 100 Havoc Talent must be crazy at pvp

[@harryayl9525]

*ConflagRate

[@BattousaiHBr]

+Harry Ayl the pronunciation is so annoying haha

[@jackvalentine2892]

I like the soul shard change. Blizz said like 8 months ago that all warlocks were going to have the same resource system, so it's not exactly a surprise. At the end of the day you have 2 charges of conflagrate which generate 1 soul shard guaranteed. Therefore, you will always have a chaos bolt. I honestly don't see many changes to the core gameplay. Also Bellular, any reason you didnt cover the artifact at all? You kinda started on it, covered 1 talent and then gave up :p You completely missed (in my opinion) the best talent on the artifact! RAIN OF FIRE SUMMONS AN INFERNAL! Thematically, so fucking cool. Either way, nice vid and I look forward to playing my lock.

[@whitetyger06]

+Jack Valentine I think we're the only 2 not bothered by the soul shard change. It looks so much less complicated cause our embers could deteriorate over time, soul shards they're there and they don't go anywhere which I think is nice. A little sad dark souls didnt make it but overall I'm pleased with the changes, I can't wait to get my hand on that artifact weapon!

[@GrunkleSpam]

It would be cool if the Artifact had more interactions with these portals it makes (like making more of them appear) through spell usage rather than it just being a cooldown.

[@danten.6928]

that voidwalker is so great looking

[@Fenzha]

destro warlocks in Legion are the spec they used to be but all the baseline stuff you had are now worse versions of themselves as talents

[@chipmag4266]

As a person who mained destruction warlock in WoD, Im pretty happy with the changes, the rifts are adding a whole lot to the spec, not gameplay wise, but simply by making it cooler looking. The damage seems to be way better(since warlock sucked ass in WoD). The Chaos bolts seems to have beem made way stronger, and that is adding a lot to the spec, since that spell is almost the intire spec. Cant wait to get my hands on it myself, and I think that they have done just enough to the spec to keep me playing, at least in the beginning of the launch, and maybe even keep it as a main.

[@arthurnielsen79]

I am playing destruction in Warlords of Draenor, and I really dislike how Legion is removing some abilities and turning other baseline abilities into competing talents. I really hate what is happening to Fire and Brimstone, which is going from a fun and unique form of AoE where you have to be careful what spells you cast when in order to avoid falling out of Fire and Brimstone, to a passive that only affects one spell and has to be taken as a talent. I also dislike how Incinerate no longer contributes anything to casting more Chaos Bolts. Also, I dislike, in general across all specs, the talent philosophy in Legion, where you will have to change your talents around if you want to switch from single target to AoE. I wish that talents were more about different ways to play, where one player may prefer one set of talents, and another may prefer another set, but both sets of talents still have the tools for most types of combat situations.

[@Fred-yd8qb]

Bring back our embers! #DestLockLivesMatter

[@ilovepancake3518]

+Fred im pretty sure somebody gonna make an addon for the shards to look like embers

[@helmino8787]

Nice video! I'm returning to WoW and i'm curious about your mods, can you tell me wich one you use for hp bar and debuff on target? thanks!

[@Grimfang999]

This spec seems to really bring focus to mana regulation, considering one of the talents stops you from depleting it within 30 seconds. Is mana dependency more common in legion so far, or mainly just for destruction?

[@faisalalsadakah5206]

man great vid as always i wana ask you something i know its not about the vid but i hope you talk about it how many rep in the expac and how the dailys ? sorry about my bad english

[@DraphEnjoyer]

All this RNG and proc shit in specs needs to go. Old spec rotations might have been barebones but at least your dps wasn't reliant on random.

[@Iron883Man]

+MrZurata RNG has been around since Vanilla. Critical hits are basically an RNG effect. You can increase your chance to get one, but it's still RNG effecting your dps. Nevertheless in some class specs the RNG is just ridiculous and it pretty much brakes those specs for me also.

[@Iron883Man]

Never played a DK on max level. I dislike the class in every spec. Sound a lot like Fir mage hough. Anyway...if you dislike it, why roll it? In my case Affliction was enough to keep playing my warlock. It still has RNG, but not in such an intrusive way that it plays on pure luck.

[@hnjahnjah]

+Cthulhu The Fabulous i fail to see how a 15% chance to generate a soul shard can make you BETTER overall then a "noob".....it's pure luck and nothing else about it. If nothing else,it gives that same noob a better chance to be like you lol.

[@hnjahnjah]

+Iron883Man But i don't seem to recall that it was this reliant on RNG...your main resource getting generated through luck? Does any other class have that? And Channel Demonfire doing damage to RANDOM targets afflicted by Immolate? Seems to me like they took the people who made Gnomes vs Goblins and threw them into making the class....which is downright stupid. Sure,Conflag guaranteeing to generate those embers helps but still you rely a lot on those Immolate generators,and considering Chaosbolt seems to still be the big red button of the class and the hardest hitting spell it doesn't give me a lot of hope. Then again,neither does playing Dr. Doomlittle with basically doing some dots and throwing the occasional shadowbolt while an army of pets kills your target doesn't sound too fun either.

[@Iron883Man]

Soetpotatis Neither to me. If this is the case I'll stick with affliction. I don't like RNG, but the fact that Destro leans on one single spell is more decisive to not play it for me. I'll go Demo for levelling 100-110 but after that I'm likely to stick with the affliction and demonic sacrifice combo.

[@Luxer1996]

I'd like to give my opinion on it, but I'm more of an Affliction/Demonology warlock, so I've rarely played destro. Might as well give it a try when Legion comes out.

[@emetsalt2678]

you think you do but you don't :P

[@zelamorre1126]

Hmm. Looks like I might be dropping destruction in Legion and going back to demonology. The last thing destruction needed was even more ability pruning. Taking away the AOE boost for conflagrate, incinerate, etc. and making rain of fire cost three soul shards is going to gimp the one thing they excel at in current endgame - stacked AOE damage. I already have fewer spells on my main toolbar on my 'lock than I do on the other eight classes I have at 100.

[@jasonegan7266]

Woot thanks! Been waiting for this video!

[@GreenXintent]

I like what I see so far for PvE except not having shadowburn baseline, and on the same row as backdraft. For PvP though it looks like fel flame spam on crack except with other instants that arent fel flame. I prefer the opportunistic playstyle of MoP destro where its really hard for you to get off a spell, but when you do and the CC lines up, something dies.

[@Banelock]

Mained destruction warlock since WOTLK and this is the only time I am considering switching. MoP design for destruction was by far the best, then they did some wierd stuff with WoD and the 200% more burning embers talent that I didnt really like either...and now we are at rng shards / rng mastery that has nothing to do with gameplay and will feel really bad when you get all your trinkets and damage buffs but your mastery rolls +1% for next 5 cbs :( . And the core mechanic of pooling 3-4 embers and waiting for trinkets, then pop dark soul and spam those nukes is gone since its a lot easier( and rng dependent ) to cap out on soul shards and 5 soul shards is only enough for 2 cbs/3 with a conflag thrown in :(

[@just4joebob]

Holy shit this got slapped. -Fire and Brimstone is gone -Shadowburn's now a talent -Burning embers are gone (not a huge difference, but it was a nice touch) -RNG out the ass Man. That's kind of a bummner. :^/

[@melanievanessa1541]

This is why i love orc warlocks best warlock class next to forsaken

[@carlosburns7024]

Fire and Brimstone was the passive you were trying to think of.

[@Tater76]

I concur about the change from Burning Embers back to Soul Shards...so much for each spec being unique and "class fantasy"

[@RatchildUK]

Burning embers is a gameplay mechanic only, to utilise Fel Magic you need to consume souls. This actually makes way more sense to the class fantasy.

[@imayan9120]

Don't particularly like Soul Shards for Destro. That Dimensional Rift spell looks pretty cool though.

[@john8723]

What do I think? I think I will stick with my Affliction spec.

[@trebbomb25]

I do not like the soul shard change, i cant be alone here?

[@danielskrivan6921]

+Bert Roberts I didn't like the soul shard change when they made it no longer a reagent you had to farm.

[@deeepinsomnia]

+Bert Roberts I made a comment on twitter and got a response. They actually think it's more flavorful... I dunno what they are thinking half the time

[@alexpenneytration699]

+Daniel Skrivan We get it you played vanilla. God I can't be the only one who can't stand these fucking 'people'.

[@oliverhansen7459]

+Alex Penneytration You are....

[@danielskrivan6921]

Alex Penneytration While I did play vanilla, I wasn't really a serious player until TBC. I just miss when you had to actually prepare for things in the game instead of just passing through like a tourist.

[@DarkSaber1212]

I think the new destruction warlock is garbage, the other two specs though are fucking awesome.

[@NecxZhor9]

It's usually the black sheep

[@hnjahnjah]

+Brandon Blaisdell I respectfully disagree. Only Affliction looks decent enough to me,if they make it good on AoE damage too. But Demo? No thanks...i don't want to be Dr. Doomlittle. Same goes for Rngstruction.

[@SirMalorak]

With enough haste you'll wanna do chaos bolts at 4 soul shards in the case that you get 2 ticks which both give you a soul shard I reckon... Aside from that, I never did enjoy Destro a whole lot, probably won't change. It's a decent spellcaster spec and that's OK.

[@Gabrielowns321]

Since legion is gonna be a joke I'm going to make all my characters gnomes

[@sblade777]

I'll have fun ganking you, then :)

[@deannadawson8082]

i think its better then the wod version but still isnt meeting the expectations of the old school destro locks. theres something missing and i agree with you about the burning embers .i think its should of stayed as a rescource just for destro locks thematicly fits it better .

[@markzaranosa771]

Rip Destro locks god job Blizz at fucking things up once again the spec looks total trash lets roll a Mage i bet there fun + Op as always

[@alexwibert218]

+mark slack Are you 10? You type like you're 10.

[@MageCon]

They reduced the range of mortal coil by 10 yards and gave shadowfury a cast time. Why didn't you mention those changes? Also, shadowfury is a lot better than chaosbolt, it is instant and you can spam it with Soul Conduit. In pvp it's a lot safer. Oh, and why not go over honor talents? A lot of neat abilities were put into that tree.

[@timberhoofarthur2850]

soul shards were LK least they're not sticking around you bags for ur summon creature wish they did something with Firestones but good video

[@blyjd91]

The new Voidwalker model has some mad pecks going.

[@schippes24]

it's called conflagRRRRRRate Bellular :P sorry, had to write it down

[@tacticalxxpanda]

well i mean at least its better than the original destruction preview, however i hate the rng mastery/rng grimoire of supremacy, definitely would prefer burning embers, and i really dislike the changes to backdraft. The 3 charge system was interesting, you could make the choice to either get a chaos bolt out really fast or save the charges for incinerate. what this allowed me to do was save 2 charges, cast dark soul and spam my chaos bolts and when i run out of embers i could conflag again to get a total of 5 backdraft charges, use them all on incinerate, then conflag once more and use those charges on chaos bolt. With my gear setup I was able to fit that all into the duration of dark soul, and it was the careful planning of my backdraft charges that allowed me to do it.

[@TimmyTechTV]

About damn time Blizzard!

[@Alin.Zimnicaru]

imagine what locks can do with fire and brimestone +cataclysm+channel doomfire in a AOE situation , sound nice don't u think ?!?!

[@Camps2630]

Stopped playing WoW for 6months and might come back to Legion (If I hear it's good). I love my warlock, how are they looking?.

[@004947]

tbh MoP was the best destro lock and it looks like the stat build is going back to mop style Mastery > Crit and ew a cast time on RoF :( it seems they have taken everything away from destro that makes it destro :(

[@kurtisbrown8323]

I think the destro lock looks really cool and may be changing my main to this, but I do agree aswell that soul shards is not as good as burning embers, the generation and the fact that souls have nothing to do with destro locks really in the lore The loss of dark soul is also not a good thing at all

[@hnjahnjah]

after watching this i'm actually glad i decided to re-roll to my warrior....every warlock specc looks boring as fuck now x( Destruction utterly reliant on LUCK or RNG,Demonology makes you Dr. Doolittle with demons and Affliction...well,at least that one looks okay i guess....but compared to Fury and Arms and even Protection....yeah,i'll pass. I really don't get Blizzards idea behind removing the embers in the firstplace...i had a big pause in WoW during Firelands up to the end of MoP and when i came back i was confused at it but i got into it really quickly and loved it ever since. One of the few changes i've seen to my toons that i whole-heartedly accepted and welcomed,and that's coming from someone who played Warlock since TBC. Also,embers didn't rely too much on RNG like this does.

[@Venomousse]

In some ways, it looks like destro is getting back to its roots. I played destruction warlock from early vanilla all the way until wotlk released (which is when I quit WoW), so some of these changes Legion is bringing seem familiar. It was always about big crits and RNG, which made it fun and chaotic to play. And turning burning embers into soul shards? Why not. At least it's not the way it used to be, you had to farm soul shards for hours and they clogged up your bags like crazy.

[@billypeterson2399]

Baseline spells taken away to become lesser versions of themselves in the form of talents as well as crazy amounts of RNG. Seems like Blizz is willingly breaking the warlock to an even worse state than it was in the Cata days. If enough of us voice our opinions there's still time for them to revert it back to a "skill" class instead of a "luck of the dice" class before it becomes live

[@Gnarlbones]

Not a fan of the changes, but Channel Demonfire and Dimensional Rift look seriously cool.

[@whobdob]

@BellularGaming what do you think about the release date ? is it even ready ?

[@kevinvolk968]

replacing burning embers witrh soul shards is a mistake. thematically, I like stealing souls, but mechanically I like embers better. super excited about demon fire though. it'll go great with cataclysm, and it will all look better for players with green fire ;)

[@Spiderbro8]

Blizz are trying hard for legion to tune each classes rotation and style of combat to reflect the character of their unique specialisation. Destruction similar to fire Mage is intended to play and feel wild and chaotic hence so much rng in their kit. Sounds great but as we know rng doesn't usually help create a good pvp environment.

[@alexwibert218]

+grassynole07 All warrior specs have depended on RNG since the beginning of time, and they made due. I really think they're going to be okay.

[@danhealy79]

I'm guessing that since they just introduced the spec, there will be some fine-tuning going on. If not, they totally fucked the Destruction spec and that makes me a sad panda. :( EDIT: What in the hell is up with the randomness of this spec?!

[@Ravenholdt-xi7zy]

+Daniel Healy I think the randomness of the spec has something to do with the Class Fantasy, because Destruction Warlock = Chaotic or w/e But yeh I totally agree, I prefer the current Destro.

[@lilRicky891]

bellular have you seen that they have put the release to 30/8? Do you think it will be ready by then?

[@KirinCZ]

Nobbel in the video! :-D 7:45 ... don't like this version of destro though... but hey, nice vid, as always :-)

[@BAX337]

Love the new Voidwalker pissed off look, i disagree with blizzards change to soul shards for destruction locks :( BUT WHO CARES CAUSE I CAN PLAY DEMONOLOGY AGAIN

[@wiltonfriberg9062]

Hi! I just made a warlock and i noticed we dont have the burning embers anymore. Isnt this feature only available in legion and legion alpha?

[@Nova4750]

Farewell destro... you were wounded in WoD but you could still walk. Blizzard is now putting you out of your misery. It was good knowing you -- thank you for MoP :3

[@zayon0170]

idk for pve, but for pvp sucks. just watch at Cobrak preview... spamming Shadowburn and the artifact

[@obliterekt1692]

+tommaso bertocchi The waiting... SO MUCH WATING FOR THIS DOG SHIT SPEC... I lost my hope on warlocks

[@viviorko]

Cobrak just got done doing a video with pvp with a rogue and said it was fun.

[@zayon0170]

+James Coerver wtf? he did an awesome overview for talents and pvp talents, and a video with some arenas! the prroblem is that chaos bolt do shitty dmg, so it's useless for pvp! and the build with shadowmourne feel kinda crap

[@gamblor67]

lmao why on earth have the given shadowfury a cast time and made demonic circle a talent... pretty ridiculous shit

[@MrConkee]

+gamblor67 Dude i was going to say the same thing cast time stun...../facepalm just call it warstomp ffs. Oh sorry not thematic enough. demonstomp

[@gamblor67]

+MrConkee im sure if warriors lost their charge and had it become a talent or added cast time to shockwave or even if a rogues shadowstep was a talent the community would be going mental...but as its destro its seems so thrown to the wayside.

[@addviolence911]

Seems we're losing quite a bit of baseline to talents. The Burning Ember change doesn't seem as bad but I would rather keep them.

[@Carlos-qt9eu]

Burning embers are a must for Destruction Warlocks.. They really make it feel like you're a master of fir, weaving it to your will and sending it off to fuck people's day up. It will be missed.

[@TheRobochicken5494]

...give us kiljaedens cunning and backlash back lol

[@Frapps]

19:28 Look, look ... Nobbel came online!!!

[@games12444]

TL;DR: The Destruction warlock's spells/talent change is unnecessary. Soul shards... the one thing I can't understand. This is the Destruction spec. You're meant to cause chaos and burn everything. Since when does a destruction warlock use any form of 'soul' shards? It doesn't make sense to me. Why change something when it's good just the way it is AND fits the spec's style? Ember tap removal: Why? Charred remains: Why? Rain of fire: Was better off as instant cast for little mana usage and damage. Shadowburn as a talent: Why? It was better off as it was. I can go on about what doesn't make sense and what should of stayed the same, but that's common knowledge.

[@billfan7528]

+games12444 Actually Charred remains' removal makes total sense to me, although what they've done instead doesn't make too much sense. The reasoning behind why charred remains is a terrible talent is because Chaos bolt is supposed to be a super exciting moment, but with charred remains chaos bolts are going off ALL THE TIME. It's like making rogue shadow dance a 20s cd: It just doesn't make it fun anymore when it's going off all the time As for Ember Tap, it seems like Blizz is removing defensive spells from all classes as to make fights more punishing but easier when you do things right. As for the rest I totally agree. IMO they should've just kept wod destro but remove the boring spells and ESPECIALLY Charred remains.

[@Toxxxic_]

You're not saying the R in conflagrate.

[@cas6382]

"We want to bring back class fantasy so lets just remove the class fantasy"...wtf burning embers were cool

[@jerkin417]

shadowburn is a finishr like execute

[@saetia7]

I don't get why they would rename Burning Embers, it seems like an unnecessary loss of class identity.

[@TheHyDroPWN]

Is lifetap just the new Embertap? EDIT: Is Shadowburn still a thing?

[@napasaurus7424]

that spell that made your spells do aoe was Brimstone

[@sanjayramakrishnan6461]

Is ther no dark soul for all warlock specs or just destro? It has practically become part of my aff lock's rotation

[@moyga]

+Sanjay Ramakrishnan It has been removed for every spec and it sucks.

[@wiltonfriberg9062]

Whats the best lock spec for dps? I dont like using pets, do you have to do that on all lock specs?

[@Kotoy1]

you only HAVE to do it on demonology. In affliction u use the felhunter cause it buffs your dots and kn destro u use imp since it does a lot of damage. they are not a requirement, but will increase your damage output

[@incubi51]

Warlocks where great in MoP. First they destroyed affliction, and now both destruction and demo it seems. If I come back for legion it will most likely not be my warlock main since wotlk.

[@aceplayer555]

3 soul shards for rain of fire?? Rip destruction ;(

[@BanditMage]

+Ace Player It does a heap of damage and summons a demon. Actually a pretty sweet spell lol.

[@DevilTheVampire]

Rain of fire is the only thing that's been improved in my opinion, only thing that sucks is you can't spam it to knock people out of stealth anymore in pvp.

[@russellstone6003]

simple way to fix destro locks- 1.make dimensional rift castable while moving 2.make demonfire castable while moving 3.make grimoire of sacrifice not have the aoe ability and make it have a 5% hp regen every 8 seconds 4.make demonic gateway talent artifact ability instead make you have 2 portal usage charges and makes you regen 25% of hp each time 5.keep shadow burn as a execute ability 6.give dimensional rift proc a warning sign 7.just make burning rush viable, like goddamn rogues are able to sprint 90% than usual forever but us locks gotta kill ourselves just move at half the pace!?make it like atleast 1 or 2%

[@BanditMage]

+Raymond Macivey Dimensional Rift is castable while moving. Demon fire is a strong ass spell that summons a demon that does good damage, would be silly. Rogues have lost burst of speed. Demonic Gateway heals you in Alpha.

[@russellstone6003]

The Bandit huh well demonfire maybe should get a 45 sec cooldown than 60 seconds, and the thing about demonic gateway is that no one really likes using it, so maybe they should give that one thing I said before but also put it on a shorter casting time because it takes way to long to get

[@russellstone6003]

The Bandit but it is castable while moving now?

[@BanditMage]

People like using demo portal, it's a great PVP thing. PVE it can be very useful in fights. Not sure why you'd say no one likes using it. Is what castable while moving? Dim rift is, it always has been.

[@russellstone6003]

The Bandit well it's not that us locks don't like using it, it's just that it seems like it lets other enemy players know before hand where you'll go during that fight and the cast time takes too long, if we have to depend on the portal on healing ourselves then we need it to take less time to cast cause if some rogue stuns you and you gotta fight it'll be extremely hard to get that portal down unless the casting time is reduced

[@schippes24]

it's not that i dislike the new destruction warlock.. but i simply dont get how they are trying to change each spec so they're less similar but on the other hand they take away burning embers from the destro lock, THE ONLY THING that really made a difference (at least in optics) from the other two specs.. jesus christ, i want to burn with green fire again.. they still could've changed it in a way that you only generate it completly and with immolate and conflag

[@koreanbbq5862]

Mana tap is 40% current* not max. so spam abilities. mana tap. life tap then go ham rinse repeat

[@Ahnzhael]

Nobbel87 the youtuber went online at 7:42 :D

[@danielholland4520]

You'd like the Shadowfury ability a lot more as it currently is in Warlords, an instant cast :^) Not liking these changes so far...

[@joshuajezeski6369]

Welp, guess I'm going Demo this expansion. Thanks Blizz! ... Wankers.

[@Korfax124]

Maybe have the mastery randomly generate soul shards? :P

[@madiovas]

What I don't like as a warlock main is that they advertise all the changes as "reinventing" class- and spec identity. But then they continue to remove abilities and giving warlock the same recourse over all specs... I really can't get behind that.

[@GameGrowl]

Man. After all the videos and news I'm not sure I'm going to even bother getting Legion.

[@codytomblin5715]

Belluar can you do a video of all the updated talents of all classes

[@xxSaberinyourheart]

Demolock mastery: if versatility and Rng had a child.