WOW, whip swords SUCK!

[@PossumReviews]

Like many other things in life, swords are less useful when they're limp.

[@neondemon5137]

Just like wooden rods

[@procow2274]

All well and good but why did the Goblin turn on the stove? 🐣

[@JaMeshuggah]

IT'S HIM IT'S TRASH MAN

[@richardsanchez5444]

I read this in his voice.

[@spiffygonzales5160]

​@@procow2274 I've never heard this one so I'm genuinely curious. Why?

[@shawy83]

Weapon that relies entirely on magic, isn't so hot without magic...

[@Yukeake]

Yep. All of the "cool" examples of this kind of weapon - Ivy's Valentine from Soul Calibur, Renji's Zabimaru from Bleach, the one from Demon Slayer whose name escapes me, etc... - they're all "magical" in some way, where the wielder is not only swinging it, but actually controlling the expansion/contraction/whip-like qualities of the weapon. Take away that additional control, and bind it to real-world physics, and it doesn't work. Makes for a cool visual in games/anime/media though.

[@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947]

Honestly weapons with no need of magic are better with magic. Reality Sucks.

[@EllAntares]

​@@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 True Shot Handgun?

[@iron_side5674]

@@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 The Logic is not Logicking. You can make regular shit better with Magic, yes. But you can make something that only theoretically/in concept works and would be better than even that, work, with magic.

[@sprinkle61]

@@EllAntares Outlaw Star heavily features a magic handgun, basically like hollow point bullets, but magic point, does a lot more damage of various types, than real bullets.

[@AEsir_Goji]

9:19 Pool noodle felt so insulted by the “weapon" it attacked Shad for his hubris XD

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

Okay, hear me out... Sword-Whip-Chucks

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

Nah, Chuck-Chuck-Chucks. Or if you want WMDs Chuck-Bec-Chucks.

[@kevingray4980]

@@nextcaesargaming5469 attach whipsword to nunchaku's chain for double handles? That could actually work! There's a similar nunchaku variant with three shafts sharing one cord.

[@jamesleatherwood5125]

Ha ha ha ha ha!

[@jamesleatherwood5125]

​@EnsignRedshirtRicky bec de chukin?

[@Сайтамен]

@@nextcaesargaming5469 Lightchucks

[@PossumReviews]

All of the impracticality of nunchucks with the added bonus that you'll cut yourself.

[@drinaldi2000]

A possum found a video about a garbage weapon.

[@sprinkle61]

The key difference is that nunchucks just look cool, This thing looks like a large metallic wet noodle with razor blades in it. Also, a self nut-hit with nunchucks is just very funny, you would actually be worried about the wielder, if this weapon happened to hit such a location...

[@michaelsorensen7567]

AND you physically can't align the edge properly

[@Surge_LaChance]

Me, watching the video: "Man, this has gotta be one of the worst weapons they've ever tested." Shad, a millisecond later: "You know, this is probably the worst fantasy weapon we've ever tested." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Grandwigg]

I love when my thoughts get expressed be the program I'm watching. It seems to happen to me a lot here as well.

[@Lezarddd]

"We heard you thought flails weren't dangerous enough, so we added blades on the chains to make it even more dangerous"

[@TheSteam02]

*And less effective! :D

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

I say it's time to test the legendary swordchucks.

[@wesleystockford2616]

Maki from Blade of the immortal style?​@@SergioLeonardoCornejo

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

@@wesleystockford2616 no. 8 Bit theater style.

[@sprinkle61]

Flails actually have heavy weights at the ends, they hit WAY harder than this metal noodle. If you need to cut something, you don't use a flail, flails crush armor, and whatever is in the armor.

[@The_Friendly_Fire]

I just love that Tyranth added a sharp pointy tip, you know, for all that thrusting you're totally going to be doing with this.

[@marhawkman303]

It is the part most likely to get a slash in though so it does have some merit.

[@sand5857]

The power of the flaccidness

[@grafzeppelin4069]

at the whip-sword pitch meeting: "So, ya got a weapon for me?" "Yeah, we put blades on a whip!" "How are you going to make sure it hits the other guy instead of yourself?" "Oh, it'll be super easy; barely an inconvenience!" "Articulated weapons are TIGHT!"

[@r.e.z9428]

….but Ivy makes it looks so good though, SoulCaliber wouldn’t lie to me.

[@Allmightyimortal]

It looks good in ivy's hand, because it is in ivy and she would make any weapon look good.

[@faerylnhiikira1053]

@@Allmightyimortal This is the truth. Ivy makes anything look good.

[@r.e.z9428]

@@Allmightyimortal Preach!

[@trathanstargazer6421]

Look, if you're gonna whip it. Whip it good!

[@Amadeus8484]

Shad: "Whip swords suck!" Trevor Belmont: "I don't care..."

[@Fenris86]

Isn't the Vampire Killer more of a regular whip or a whip/flail?

[@ShiningDarknes]

@@Fenris86 It is a whip made of and intricately linked chain to give it the same flexibility as a leather whip oh and with a heavy end so yeah it is more of a fail with a very long chain.

[@richardchisenhall387]

I saw this and thought "yeah it does... But tell me why" 😂

[@kevingray4980]

For a whip to function normally, it needs to move in a spiral. Locking edge alignment to a single plane effectively ruins it.

[@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC]

As they demonstrated, there's nothing stopping the chain from overlapping itself. There's plenty of slop in a roller chain, and making it worse can literally only make it worse.

[@marhawkman303]

@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Well, bladed whips IRL don't use alignment for exactly this reason... but they're not whip-swords, just whips.

[@jackmcslay]

This needs a followup trying out an indian urumi to see how well it stacks up

[@atk9989]

Nah if they were gonna to do it they would have to get an Indian master of the urumi so it can actually be used and tested correctly. Same way Shad would rage if someone that never used a bow tried and failed to use it and said it sucks.

[@Fredjo]

@@atk9989 Bows have been used by basically all cultures around the planet and can to a certain degree be used intuitively especially those in draw strength usable to an average human. Whip swords on the other hand, have been an absolute niche from their inception and there is a good reason you can't find any evidence of widespread use in battle - They suck.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

​@@atk9989Sounds doable then. Find one willing to cooperate. I have seen some videos involving a Japanese weapon master testing out weapons from other cultures. He definitely got it when testing out European style weapons.

[@MrLolguy93]

Yet another example of "looks cool, but impractical AF"

[@overlord1676]

They're good only in fantasy settings

[@texanplayer7651]

They don't even look cool

[@Kameeho]

Other whip sword designs, sure, but the Urumi are still practical. It was a weapon designed for Areal of Denial. Keeping enemies away from valuable targets such as Elephants that these Urumi-swordsmen often were deployed to protect. Everything can have their use, it's just matter on how and where to use them. As a duelling weapon? hell naw.

[@kingcosworth2643]

That is pretty well the definition of everything cool.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

If there are historical examples then chances ard that they where made to show off.

[@Kraleck]

The point of a whip, nunchaku, or other flail-like weapon is to have the flexibility to grapple or entangle a foe in some way (such as by the neck, a limb, or as a weapon grab) or strike around cover (shields, pillars, corners, etc.) while being threatening enough to an area that the opponent has to consider how bad they would injure themselves advancing on the wielder. In practice, this sounds like a good thing, but *then* you consider the protective stopping power of armor and the weapon becomes far less effective and threatening.

[@KairuHakubi]

yeah it feels like weapons are like superheroes you have some that are good against huge threats (spears, bows), some who are good in one-on-one fights and versatile situations (swords) and others who just handle some guy robbing a jewelry store (flails, nunchaku). and then the huge crazy guys on top (guns)

[@Kraleck]

@@KairuHakubi Ooh... I like that comparison!

[@JerziTBoss]

Generally whips, nunchaku and flail/mace weapons were used for self defense that were quite cheap to make and they certainly do hurt which is more than enough to drive attackers away. Whips were used as protection against wild animals. The sound and the pain the cause could drive wolves away with ease. Just because weapon was not used on battlefield or not commonly found on the battlefield it doesn't mean they were useless.

[@Kameeho]

Hi! I would like to interject about the "Urumi" not being a weapon. The Urumi was very much used as a weapon of combat in India, as there are several records of them being used in various wars. While I do not disagree with the statement "whip swords are horrible weapons". There is a reason why the Urumi was reserved for only the Best of the Best fighters in India. The training of the Urumi was a essental parts of the Kalari martial arts mastery of weapons, and was usually the final weapon learned to master for obvious reasons. Being seen able to Master the Urumi was also seen as a high status thing, i.e similar to being a renowned sword master. However as a Weapon of combat, it is not used the way you think it would be used. Much like the Spanish Montante, it's Flourishes that you see were designed for Warfare in mind. It is not a weapon ment to outright kill an opponent. But a weapon ment for Area of Denial. Meant to ward off multiple apponents trying to approach. Much like how Spanish guards using the Montante would use their flourishes to deny opponents to approach them and thus able to block off the street or alley, from any enemies trying to pass through. You also have to remember that in South and South East Asia. Elepehants played a crucial part in Warfare, and was a powerfull asset in their armies. but as powerfull as the elephants were, They were still quite vournarable as they are a huge target and their leggs and feet weren't particularly easy to armor up. This is why you had special guards stationed around Elephants to help protect the elephants vournarable flanks, and prevent opponents from wounding the elephant. This is where weapons such as the Urumi comes into play. A Urumi master would use their flourishes and unpredictability of the Sword to keep multiple opponents away, and it's not like it's a easy weapon to block either, the blade was still razor sharp and could inflict some serious wounds, and the nature of Flexible weapons also ment that it wasn't simple to use Shields either. If you also see how many of these flourishing techniques are used, you also notice how the Urumi flourishes often to swipes close to the ground. I.e Aiming at the feets of the enemie. Most soldiers in South Asia and Southeast Asia didn't really use Armored greaves and boots at the time, and much like Roman Soldiers, wearing nothing but sandals, or barefoot even. You also see something similar being done in other armies where Elephants play a central role in their formation. Such as the Dual-sword wielding Elephant Guards in Thailand known as Jaturungkabart, (Where you see just as much flourishes used in Krabi-Krabong martial arts that was used for the Dual wielding swords) To to summerise the Urumi short: -It was used in Combat as a Area of Denial weapon. -It was essential in the Kalari Martial Arts training and the final wepaon to master. -It was used as a Status symbol. -It was used in various religious ceremonies.

[@Surge_LaChance]

Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting!

[@douglasmckenna5575]

Love it when someone knows what they're talking about

[@blackoutamvs6550]

Yeah, its pretty much what i kind of thought it could be used as since even if you know it will be easier to fight someone with a whip sword, I can guarantee that you wouldn't charge in like you would against an opponent who uses a sword. Thanks for the info, i was actually hoping for someone to say how they were used

[@hendrikvanleeuwen9110]

Great comment. Thanks.

[@abnon-tha3088]

Brilliant comment. Deserving of 👍

[@Alpha1918]

Shad I think KZbin has been suppressing your recent vids

[@shadiversity]

Yep, it's been devastating. Lowest impressions and recommendations I've had on videos in seven years, despite having higher click-through rates. It actually feels like the algorithm is trying to fully kill off the channel. Not sure what I can do about it.

[@CyberChrist]

@@shadiversity Lets us play playlists on repeat in the background ^^ And tell me on which video Tyranth parries an arrow with a sword ;)

[@SinisterSlay1]

It is super ridiculous how these get suppressed. They are always recommended to me, usually first. But I'm apparently only 1 of 2k people?

[@Alpha1918]

@@SinisterSlay1 yeah I’ve never failed to get recommendations. Apparently most people do.

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

@@shadiversity Ive been getting tons of recommendations for Shadiversity.

[@douglasdea637]

"How do we make nunchucks even worse?" Add metal blades!

[@Сайтамен]

The only thing worse is the lightsaber whip.

[@Peak_Aussieman]

What about a gun-sword?

[@overlord1676]

​@@Peak_Aussiemanswords with guns combined existed hystorically

[@Peak_Aussieman]

@@overlord1676 Yeah. Bayonets and Enfield's come to mind.

[@dodymmawsjx]

@@Peak_Aussieman I think a gun sword can be better than both of those, depending on how it is made.

[@blazervol3357]

At least gun blades can kinda make sense even in theory. Whip swords are just dumb and wouldn't even work in theory. Squall's gun blade in ff8 is awesome

[@NegTharayas16]

Shad this seems suspiciously like a nunchuks video in disguise? 😂

[@MrDark086]

Ivy mains your days are numbered! Im now designing my custom character to have full noodle armor. Your attacks will be meaningless before me!

[@AngronsLeftNut]

I like how if the user had no armour then everytime you swing and miss you'd also slice open your own back 🤣

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

Disappointed Tyranth didn't take the extra step by dying his hair white, slipping into a purple one-piece bikini, and slapping on a gigantic set of knockers...

[@madbrosheo1514]

Fr, why didn’t he do that?

[@bengianturco7926]

Don’t forget to shave his beard

[@dylandoherty2681]

I think someone just likes Tyranth haha

[@kingcosworth2643]

@@bengianturco7926 Nah, he should leave the beard

[@MegaRamster]

I get more usefulness and danger out of a classic whip over this thing

[@titansans2956]

I'm curious if an extendable sword whip would be more effective. something like Byleth's Sword of the Creator from Fire Emblem Three Houses. It can seemingly switch between a rigid sword mode and an extendable whip mode.

[@Saren5796]

As a weapon of war 1/10 As a weapon of terror for a bandit or similar 9/10 - it's distinctive and would leave nasty scars on victims

[@Ohyeah199]

“Fetch the treasury!” Looking sword

[@captain_context9991]

Guys. Im all for science and stuff... But, yes. whip swords are gonna suck. They were always going to suck. At least now we know for sure.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

This is why the whip sword should only be used in video games and anime.

[@steemlenn8797]

Or at religious ceremonies.

[@Peak_Aussieman]

Bladed nun-chucks! Yes.

[@Valchrist1313]

nun chucking? I never picked up the habit.

[@Peak_Aussieman]

@@Valchrist1313 What about chucks-maxxing. Lol. Chucks-maxxing sounds like some gross tik toc challenge involving vomit.

[@RevanR]

My only problem with Whip-Sword is we don't have the technology to make Sword that can turn the blade into whip and vice versa.

[@Valchrist1313]

Sure we have the technology. For example, two cables could run through the links and connect solidly to the point. When tensioned, it would be a complete sword, and when loosened it would form a whip. The plates that make up the sword could be shaped so that they interlock even, to help the mechanical strength when solid. Something like a spring could be used as a spacer, which collapses on to a central hollow when compressed/retracted in to a solid piece, which would also give it the effect of springing in to whip mode, which would be pretty cool.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@Valchrist1313 It works, but it sucks EVEN more compared to regular sword. The blade remains flexible even after being locked, unless you use copious amount of tension, and blade itself falls apart quite easily due to its complex construction with hollow spaces inside. In short - you better to make it a whip with some blades then extremely bad sword that can also be whip, which is also quite bad weapon.

[@Grandwigg]

​@@Valchrist1313I've seen several attempts with just that kind of mechanism and it had a lot issues with balance, alignment when moving back to sword form, and keeping section alignment through strikes and draw cuts I imagine it could technically be possible, but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the R&D costs. Give me a facility and equipment, unlimited time and money, and maybe my brother in the team for his insane skill in machining (esp his EDM prowess), it could be done. But I didn't think it would ever be practical to make or use.

[@Phantomsbreath]

@@Grandwigg Magnets.

[@zJoriz]

Didn't realize this before seeing this video... this has a similar problem to the wolverine claws, in the sense that the attacking force gets spread over several impact points. With the added drawback that each point carries very little mass behind it. Armor can deflect each little blade individually. At 7:30 the whip follows through and hits Tyranth on his back. He doesn't even seem to notice. Now if the thing could be made to slice at an angle, it could be quite nasty to unarmored folks. Like the world's most unpractical chainsaw.

[@elYisusdelaNazza]

Those things only work in animes or in Soul Calibur videogames because they function as a lightsaber: swing a whipsword against a body or a wall and it won't lose the grip and the movement of a whip. In real life, the slightest resistance causes the momentum of the whipsword to stop and, actually, makes it a... broken sword. How could anyone bring a broken sword to battle?

[@sitnamkrad]

I'm pretty sure there's some actual lore behind it in Soul Calibur. Though it's been a while since I've read up on it, I believe Ivy (the wielder of the whipsword) had multiple failed attempts at trying to make one that works. The only reason she eventually succeeded is because she used a shard of Soul Edge (magical cursed sword thingie). So even in what's probably the most famous depiction of it, it only works because of magic.

[@charlesmaurer6214]

While a bad idea in general, I have 2 changes I think would improve the design some. One the edged segments would be better curved in an ellipse or egg shape. Second, reducing the chain links between the bladed parts. A single link I think would work better and increase the percentage of the length in blade. Striking your own side in a swing is a real safety concern that does demand protection that would also render it next to useless of a foe with the same protection.

[@Phantomsbreath]

So of note, first impressions? This is a momentum based weapon. Treat it as such. Longer *is* better, up to a point. Sure, it takes longer to get your edge up to speed, but it also cuts better, because you've got more momentum behind your tip. Which is where the real power is. As someone who made one of these for fun, (though admittedly, I followed the Ivy example, and didn't join the bits together, instead opting for a wire down the center) I can tell you that it's a nasty cutter, but it *does* take a *lot* of practice.

[@mirthenary]

Sir, your sword seems limp. Well, you know at my age... OH! You mean my sword!

[@LadyViolet1]

I could see a use for it as a way to punish and maim instead of being used as a combat weapon. Probably more of a statement than anything.

[@Jaeler9]

Is no one going to mention this vocalization? 8:34 the most mall ninja/newb thing to ever come out of Shad’s mouth on channel and I’m dying😂. That deserves a round of applause 👏

[@Grandwigg]

Whatch-aaa. It sounded just like me in the days of yore, in the woods near my friend's house . Or goofing off in my living room when no one else was home. Ok. FINE I admit it. When I had my first place of my own, too . Hahahaha

[@aruunmenon]

The Indian Urumi was used more like a defensive weapon, particularly when facing multiple opponents alone. It is good at keeping people away. It is a very sharp sword (not like the practice ones they use these days) and is dangerous to the user as well. This would only really be worth it if the conditions are that desperate. They usually wrap it around their stomach when not in use and it kind of acts as armor as well in that way. It was definitely not meant to be used against armored opponents. You should get one from India and try it out, rather than such makeshift whip swords. Authentic weapons have hundreds of years of refinement behind them unlike than ramshackle toys like this. For instance, the Urumi is said to be wrapped around the opponent's neck and then when it is pulled the sword flexes, and the edge is aligned ready to cut through the neck. Such things cannot be simulated by crap swords like this. Also, these unconventional weapons have techniques with a completely different logic. You should consult someone who knows how to use them rather than play around with them.

[@tabull8180]

That is approaching to "everything is great if you are master of it" -category of weapons. A rock is a better weapon than this because like this, you can do some damage with it, it can be intimidating and there is even some utility in rock like throwing (like this has with potential wrapping around), but rock is better because it requires less training to use.

[@Kameeho]

hah, i see we both posted comment about how the urumi as used exactly the same time.

[@aruunmenon]

@@tabull8180 that would be stretching it. No one considers the Urumi as a primary weapon. It is, however, useful for the purpose that it was meant for - scaring away multiple unarmored opponents.

[@bewawolf19]

@@aruunmenon But how does it being a whip assist it in that manner compared to similarly flailing about a normal sword? Unless you are relying on it specifically appearing scarier than doing such with a normal sword, I don't see how making it such is other an advantage other than it simply being an expensive prestige weapon to show of wealth rather than practicality. Looked through some 12 videos of people using it, and every time they are just ineffectually flailing it about where even an unarmed determined attacker could likely just accept they might take a probably non-serious cut to then easily kill an opponent. Even just thick clothing likely would be sufficient to protect one self from the demonstrations they made. Edit: Just in case it was a language barrier me and my Indian mate both used google scholar to try and find effective demonstrations or at least texts citing their usage in specific battles or suchlike, and there just isn't anything. It appears like it was just an entirely unknown niche gimmick weapon that then became popularized in the 1920's from association with Indian nationalism.

[@tabull8180]

@@aruunmenon So basically you are saying that its rather a defensive equipment, like shield, than a weapon? Well some definitions also count shields as weapons but still. Thats actually quite interesting to explore as concept and maybe it works like you say. However Shad and Tyranth tested a whip sword meant for offensive purposes like portrayed in many different pop culture pieces. Its offensive capabilities were one of the worst out of all the weapons they have tested. It is very doubtful that any technique or change within the concept would greatly imrpove the results. So you calling their design crap and technique as "playing around" is quite ignorant and mean.

[@mirthenary]

Mind you, paper cuts can hurt quite a bit...

[@ASoberBear]

Yes Shad but we all like whip swords because of the jiggle physics. … everyone of you got that reference.

[@petersmythe6462]

At some point I need to get some strong steel door hinges that come to a point, and make a one-way flexible sword that can actually cut, parry, even thrust.

[@thekingjdd]

Hey Shad, good luck with the algorithm issues.

[@shadiversity]

We're doing everything we can, but at the end of the day if our videos don't get recommended there's nothing else we can do.

[@daviddamasceno6063]

Only a true master would use a weapon that is clearly terrible. Or so one would think. That's where the intimidation factor comes from, I guess, lol.

[@robertjensen1438]

A famous chef goes to Australia and whips up a lemon meringue pie. The whole audience cheers! “That's strange," he says. “I thought Australians usually boo meringue."

[@KyleSage35]

Its a lackluster sword, "I hate it" but its still fun lol.

[@Zoddlander]

😆 Shad - "What did I hit?" Urmh...Well...does your own back count as a hit? Its not as bad as a Lightsaber-Whip or...a...Nun-Chuck Lightsaber!? 🤔 Nun-Chuck Lightsaber video next?

[@Tom-re6zo]

it's a fun concept. but in practice it's a ticking timebomb, sooner or later it WILL cut you when you try to cut with it.

[@b1laxson]

Just think of it as nunchucks with nunchucks with nunchucks and maybe Shad will make a video about those too

[@jamesleatherwood5125]

Man! This sword was so bad they couldnt even make it to 15 minutes! Even with intro and sponsored segment! Holy cow!

[@AD-mf5ev]

If you "MUST" select a whip weapon, just make the whip out of the fantasy metal material. So it's still light-ish, but stronger, you can even add small ridges/teeth, but it's overkill. Whip is dangerous on its own against unarmored targets. If you absolutely HAVE to attach stuff, then it's just a flail morning star.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Yeah, steel cable is no joke, if you can swing it hard enough. Slices meat and bone like butter with enough force behind it.

[@Brickticks]

I think the point of a whip sword is that it’s supposed to be made with interlocking sections held together with a length of internal cable. That way, when the interlocking sections are together, they functions as a regular sword, with the internal cable providing tension to keep the sword together. Then, when one wants to, they can release that tension from the cable, a la push the button Kronk, and allow the sword to function as a whip. That way, one can sword fight traditionally with the sword locked together by the tension of the internal cable and then release that tension to activate the whip function to throw their opponent off guard. That would function better than welding sword fragments together with what appears to be bike chains. Nonetheless, good attempt though. I have to go now, my tablet is running low on charge.

[@MannyNamiro]

I first saw a whip-sword (kinda) in the Prince of Persia The Two Thrones game. It sure looked really bad-ass there, but it was wielded by a literal magical demon, so the practical realism is out the window on that one.

[@Grandwigg]

That game was so good. I played it on PSP, is was soo tough for me- But when I modded it and could use a full controller if was more enjoyable to play. (I never had a ps2 to play the original version)

[@MannyNamiro]

@@Grandwigg The entire trilogy is available on PC.

[@gigabyteguru2452]

The way to improve it might be to give it three points of contact between the joints, one in the middle and two at the edges to better enforce edge alignment. You would have to massively over engineer it to allow the outer two joints to traverse up and down the edge to allow the blade to actually work, but it would effectively make it pivot between each segment.

[@EingeborenerVollblutmischling]

Wow! Shad is still Shad...

[@Redvin-c8i]

2:36 Shad is trying so hard to not say "nunchucks" lmao

[@StainedRevenant]

Boromir during the sword snagging sequence: “Why can’t you test the ineffective weapons on me?” A few moments later: “Thanks, boss.”

[@zz-zh2gg]

It would be a really good gladiator weapon. It would make for long bloody fights

[@byronvonedmund]

Meanwhile Byleth Fire Emblem: allow me to demonstrate!

[@mauricesteel4995]

Ah, yes, the unforgetrable Babuska blade, the Abuela Katana.

[@davidwilliams7094]

Shad sees a stick: "An elegant weapon from a more civilized age." Shad sees an articulated weapon: "What a piece of crap!"

[@Blindy_Sama]

Side note that was cool medieval style watches I looked them up and they're quite expensive and they look really cool... But seeing as I probably won't be able to see the face very clearly I wish they had a version that talked... It wouldn't have to be as fancy as a smartwatch or anything complicated like that but perhaps a slightly more digitized version where I could still have the analog face and everything for aesthetics but perhaps a button where you can press and it would literally say the time and things like that.. I mean I think it could be easily done they had talking watches when I was a kid and that was a long time ago. If anyone actually takes the time to read this, please feel free to send it to the watchmaking company that makes those cool watches maybe I'll open up a few more business opportunities for them.

[@DH-xw6jp]

All of the watches that company makes are 100% mechanical. There are no electrical components involved, you couldn't add a push to tell feature on a watch like this.

[@Blindy_Sama]

@DH-xw6jp that makes sense and to make a hybrid of the two will probably be a huge pain in the butt... Not to mention kind of counterproductive... That's too bad though the pictures of the watches are gorgeous oh wow more for everyone else I suppose :-)

[@xdragon2k]

It is as intimidating as someone wielding an Urumi.

[@jean-philippeX]

I see a version of the weapon that might have potential as a secondary weapon guys! Lets say you add a rigide blade of maybe 16 inch or 20 (or more to have enough reach) inch like a traditional sword and then at the end of the blade addind the chain blade with anough length to be able to grapple around arms or legs of the oponnent to control for exemple grappling the arm holding the weapon before taking him down with your main weapon !

[@braydenllewellyn4410]

The most recent example I've seen in less popular pop culture is from the Black Talon book series. They call it a lashblade and it has an extended and a retracted form. I don't remember the authors or characters talking anout the limitations in the earlier books, only the advantage of range and force multiplication on the tip, but to he fair in the last book, that I'm currently listening to now, they do actually address the concerns of using this weapon and they only use it for pierving at the tip in its extended form. There's even a part where the wielder injures her dominant arm mid-battle and goes to retrieve it with her off-hand before she realizes internally that she is more likely to hurt herself than actually get use out of the weapon since she hasn't trained with that for her entire life.

[@MekarWB]

Gotta hand it to you, you've really sold me on this thing being totally utterly worthless

[@MegaDudon]

13:55 Shad is very correct here. I've never realized it, but when I was younger I liked overdesigned chunky fantasy swords, even Frostmourne looked pretty cool to me (though even then it was a little too much). Later, when I learned how swords actually work, my preference shifted to the more realistic designs. Though I'm not sure about the whip sword... Maybe it's just because I like Ivy as a character. Yes, for all the right and wrong reasons.

[@kellykilpatrick8363]

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[@IggyTthunders]

Shad: Taranths going to hold out his sword and I'm gonnuh pull him off. Me: Shad, you're married!

[@mirthenary]

Obviously, you have to try light saber whips...

[@ViolentMessiah666]

TIL sword-whips perform worse at their intended function than nunchucks & pool noodles can be effective armour under the right circumstances 😂

[@Ithirahad]

"Tyranth's gonna hold his sword and I'm gon' try to pull him off" ...should've been a Romance of Men sword, at that rate.

[@benedict6962]

That wire cord sword someone was making some months ago was pretty cool. Could definitely deal damage with SOME retracting power, but still not practical by any stretch

[@j4s0n39]

You could make it much better by extending the handle, putting a small chain on there, and then just putting a heavy or spiked ball on the end.

[@sandman_says_runrunner4701]

The only damage advantage I could see is if you used a chainsaw action on it. Meaning, after it wraps around a limb or neck you pull straight back like a starter cord on a motor and the sword pieces act like chainsaw teeth on the wrapped appendage. Though even that is a stretch and would require the whip sword to be longer.

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

Okay, but what about Whip-Sword-Chucks?

[@joebuckley2180]

I'm thinking about the cane whip and beast cutter from Bloodborne

[@-_Alyssia_-]

despite all the problems with it, if you used a longer one to entangle limbs or something i think it would have decent effect but armor would mitigate that especially plate, but the edges could bite into flesh reasonably well to hold on

[@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV]

I love a flexible chain-based weapon! Very concealable. After making contact you just reverse direction or follow through. It's not dangerous to the user once you develop a chain predicting computer in your head. Some chain-based weapons (like nun chucks) are just awkward, but a weighted chain is glorious.... Making the chain the weapon instead of the tip throws away plenty of range advantage! :D

[@sero4591]

There is a similar weapon in the shadow fight games called "composite sword", It's blades are able to retract completely to form a solid edge (which is probably not that sharp but still useable) It's extension is dependent on how much power you use and it only starts to extend when it can't hit it's user anymore But it would probably not work in real life

[@somerando1073]

You CAN get edge alignment with a Urami, you could make one to test from steel banding straps, some banding is even high enough carbon to heat treat. The Urami has two issues that make it not a "good" weapon. First is that they are about as effective as a piece of string against armor, but people didn't always wear armor. Second is the amount of training needed to be competent is way too much for anyone not fully dedicating their life to the study of the floppy blade.

[@overlord1676]

Take an urumi (already super impractical) and worsen its design, what you get is a whip sword

[@LukasJampen]

If we were in a world with magic or telekinesis it could be a really tricky and flexible weapon. In a book series I read about vampires, the MC later on uses a sword that can switch between Sword and Whipsword and for her it works because it is literally a part of her being and she can manipulate it at will. In that case it makes it very easy to get around defenses and still deliver a certain amount of punch. But yes in reality they are extremely unpractical and any amount of armour makes them completely useless.

[@dredlord47]

The flail, specifically the threshing flail which gained prominence with the Hussites, was a terrific weapon.

[@bernieburton6520]

The chain sword only works with magic. You need it to be long and controlled through something like psychokinetic powers. That way you can basically use it like a sharp and pointy tentacle. Even thrusting with it.

[@gabriellynch2764]

Its crazy, it's almost like thousands of years of real-world battlefield testing allowed us to figure out the most practical weapons to kill each other with. Crazy!

[@SpiceCh]

You could perhaps construct a chain with an internal wire mechanism and an interlocking guide to lock the chain in place when a lever in the handle is held down. This would restrict the blade's whip movement along a single axis, ensuring the edges won't flail and spin in a million different directions when used in this way, and giving the option of straightening the blade with the wire mechanism when a studier weapon is needed. But, needless to say, engineering and assembling such a contraption would be meticulous and probably expensive work. But it's the only way I imagine you could produce a remotely useful blade with a whip function. Of course, the chain links would be a point of failure if the sword is struck at an off angle, but I never claimed it would be perfect.

[@impaledface7694]

If it was longer it might be able to wrap around a limb or torso and score it on retraction. I would also increase the weight of the tip so it has more momentum to wrap around, heck maybe add a hook on the end so it digs into flesh. I think this is like most unconventional weapons, it would take a while to develop a technique, and it would still end up being not as viable.

[@KYNF9000]

I think there is a pole-arm with chains hanging on the end that entangles swords or other weapons and then you can just thrust the unarmed enemy. I think that would be interesting to see how effective the entanglement is.

[@thatgut2375]

Imagine a sword whip that's rigid like a regular sword until it comes into contact with something, and then it wraps around quickly, digging the blades in, then when you pull it moves like a chainsaw

[@stusue9733]

"they're unpredictable" "yeah, you may well take yourself out of the fight"

[@frankbauerful]

A whip sword basically takes the flawed idea that turns a Stick into a Nunchuck, applies it to a sword, and turns it up to 11.

[@Vienticus]

What if you try the whip sword with a single metal wire that goes from hilt to tip to hilt, providing edge alignment while providing flexibility? You'd have to put limiters on sections of the wire to allow for flex while keeping the segments in relative positions.

[@Drakonis.Imperial]

The whip sword that comes to mind for me is the one used by "Jean-Francios" in 2001s "Brotherhood of the Wolf" (Le Pact de Loups for the Frenchies out there). That one was actually an extending/retracting BONE whip sword ... lol.

[@jacksonhorrocks4281]

In Tyranth's defense, he is still wearing more protection than Forged in Fire

[@neemz0117]

Lol half of me feels like most of this channel is tyranth just being like wooooosaaah. And reigning back shad.

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

Such weapons break one's kinetic chain. Which saps the power out of one's blow. Only way to counter that a little would be to keep it moving & even then it's still going to suck.

[@LCCWPresents]

There’s martial arts styles in India that deal with whip swords. The only reason they suck, is because they require years of training to use properly. In literature theirs a prince that used one to cut down 9 enemies at once. Just like any other weapon, using whip swords without the proper training becomes worthless (like trying to use a long sword to cut down a tree.).

[@oldman747]

"you did hit the bottle" Tyranth is so done with shad in that moment. just... you can hear the "i know you are in charge right now so i cant say anything but holy fuck shut it"