Stage starts in village of La Bollène Vésubie with dry roads, 1:01 first tunnel, 3:20 old snow at the edge of the road now, 3:58 snow patches on the road now, 8:13 approaching the famous Col de Turini at the top of the hill, 9:04 driving with care on ice and snow into the hairpin, 10:58 faster, dry road again, 11:55 more snow and ice, 15:35 slippy on bad ice after tunnel, 16:47 through the village of Moulinet with hairpins, 17:55 Loeb looks at something, 19:05 sequence of many hairpins downhill, 22:38 finish, end of stage with Robert Kubica CRASH and smoking wheel! Watch our Monte Carlo 2015 highlights here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIKlopZrfdGahLc
@gwendolinethermea38594 жыл бұрын
Non pas
@jacobjake4823 жыл бұрын
@Jadiel Fox Instablaster ;)
@jacobjake4823 жыл бұрын
@Jadiel Fox happy to help :)
@TakumiFujiwara803 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how Kubica can crash it AFTER the end of the stage....
@stevemcilroy95188 жыл бұрын
Loeb always said, he is no quicker than any other driver. The difference is, he is smooth and consistent. I think he was being modest as he is ultra quick, smooth into and out of every corner, and a brave driver. perfect pairing, respect.
@sota_598 жыл бұрын
Elena said that first thing they noticed 2003-2004 that if they want to win title, they have to accept sometimes 2nd or 3rd places.
@MegaVesper048 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing a Colin McRae interview saying Loeb wasn't the fastest driver but, like you already said, he is smooth and drives consistently. Kinda like the tortoise, just keeping his pace steady while some drivers push too hard and go off or break their car.
@captainwin63338 жыл бұрын
Colin being a prime example.
@mssmmgnn8 жыл бұрын
The fact, at least to me, is that exactly to be both smooth and consistent, above all you MUST be quick: I mean: you can act smoothly with steering and brakes only if you do the right thing in the right amount in the right instant... In short... if you are PERFECT. If your reflexes, are perfect, so to make all your acts perfectly phased together And that perfection has to last the entire track, on ice, on dry, in all situations. F. ex (talking about fwd, of course) when you have to kick the brakes before an hairpin, to make the car drift (I've tried, few times, on wet) I've noticed the most critical thing is exactly the instant you choose to do it, or better, you have to synchronize it with the steering stroke, otherwise "doesn't work", you'll go straight, ok; but isn't the same with a race trimmed car... hard suspensions doesn't "warn" you, when you're about to lose grip when you're on dry, letting alone on slippery... then, at that speed, really becomes matter of tenth of seconds; plus, is not the same in all conditions... ice, dry, dirt; and in this track there are almost all of them There's no parts on dirt, but that part on ice, and downhill, from 8:25 onward (he's going quite slow, and doesn't risk anything) shows effectively the situation he's managing with: more or less like walking on glass marbles. He has for sure the skill on ice typical in the Northern Europe drivers, but a bit the anger (a smooth kind of) of a Sainz or a Mikkola, too This is his winning asset: to have both those skills, and to know as well how to dose them
@MegaVesper048 жыл бұрын
It's easier to be smooth if you aren't going as fast though. Being smooth doesn't mean you are driving as fast. If a driver is driving at the same rate as others but taking smoother lines then ya, they would be the fastest for sure. Loeb and Ogier have set fastest stage times lots of times. It's not that they aren't fast, just that some drivers have shown more speed than them on some stages; however those other drivers haven't been as consistent or as ... smooth as maybe Loeb was or Ogier is. Other drivers make more mistakes and take less efficient lines at times. Being fastest is useless anyways if you can't finish the rally. Hence Colin McRae. RIP.
@MaeIstr0m10 жыл бұрын
17:55 *driving driving driving driving* *looks on his left* *oooh!~ Nice landscape* *driving driving driving driving*
@marioetto849 жыл бұрын
***** ahaha I noticed it as well.... unbelivable !
@MauricioPorcel9 жыл бұрын
9th... Nueve veces Capeon del WC. Que lastima que no sigue... VW va mejor!
@nindschaYT9 жыл бұрын
***** lmao
@Panndaaaaaa9 жыл бұрын
***** He enjoys the view haha
@knallpistolen9 жыл бұрын
+MaeIstr0m hehe, yeah :)
@Multiac7 жыл бұрын
I am simply floored, he seems to be driving as fast as it is humanely possible throughout the video, but at the same time we never have the impression he is taking any risk; top security, it is a marathon not a 100 meter. Also, for my English speaking friends, if you listen when Elena says the condition of the road with wet (humide or mouillé), snow (neige), dry (sec). When he says sec, SB is just crushing the acceleration pedal like a maniac. WOW !!!!!!!
@L.Kneemoy9 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Sebastien Loeb has to be the best rally racer of all time. He's won more then any other rally racer. He's just flat out nuts behind the wheel of anything with wheels. I love rally racing, wish it would someday come to America.... Thanks for posting, I enjoy the videos you post. Cheers!!
@seanhornibrook8 жыл бұрын
17:55 WTF ARE YOU LOOKING AT?!?!?! How do you even have time to notice ANYTHING?? Excellent as always. Love watching Loeb.
@DildorTheDecent8 жыл бұрын
probably looking at girls.
@jordanversol26895 жыл бұрын
I think he looking the rear left tire because of bumpys
@gourmont4726 Жыл бұрын
Loeb c'est une macine, son coéquipier c'est une machine, la machine c'est une machine... Même pour moi qui suis pas à bord c'est angoissant. Quelle perf, bravo.
@juxtaposeism7 жыл бұрын
the most elegant and efficient rally driver - his mechanics must have loved him
@YABBAHEY15 жыл бұрын
Loeb is one of the greats, I was always rooting for the Norwegians & Swedes but he beat them every time in the end by being ridiculously fast or more consistent on points. Joy to watch from inside the cab, thanks.
@MrSdwagonjp9 жыл бұрын
The concentration you see in the drivers face is awesome. Kudos to the co-driver for his pace notes.
@jtarnero9 жыл бұрын
too bad they set the camera so you can't see the co-driver's face. he's working his butt off too!
@BrunoDECOURCY4 жыл бұрын
What really impresses me is the fact that he can drive like a maniac and listen to the notes given by Daniel Elena!!! And the rhythm of the notes is spot on always. This to be related to a video from Lando Norris asking his technician to shut up while he’s racing... Rallye drivers aren’t the same breed, that’s for sure!!!!
@UnePintadeАй бұрын
Plus those notes are very precise compared to the usual british ones with the angle plus the tightness of each corners
@juanignaciogonzalez46595 жыл бұрын
Of course its extremely hard, but Loeb makes it to seem easy! Amazing the descend on the north face of the stage with the non-suitable mixed tyres! Thank you for sharing and huge, huge thanks to Seb Loeb and Daniel Elena for making us so happy!!!!
@guybenett776429 күн бұрын
Des trajectoires au cordeau, jamais de derapages qui retardent, pas non plus de freinages inutiles. Ce qui crée un ensemble fluide et très rapide. On comprend pourquoi Loeb a ete un multiple champion du monde. Un grand bravo aussi à D. Elena.
@anthonystoer73204 жыл бұрын
Mr Sébastien Loeb et Christian Elena vous m aver fait rêver ouaou c étais juste géniale 23mins 43 seconde de pur bonheur.
@koolgreatbikes50577 жыл бұрын
crazy flying, sliding, pushing, french hero!...and hail to the co driver...i got dizzy just from watching...simply ..great!!
@miguelferrandisperez57058 жыл бұрын
i have this track in my mind thanks to dirt rally
@NicoMavB8 жыл бұрын
Yep Like in Dirt Rally i can recognise also ! :)
@lexrax_tbd8 жыл бұрын
Same here . I love Monaco in Dirt Rally :) Them Sides though , u cant hit the restart in real life :/
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8 жыл бұрын
That's because Dirt Rally still doesn't give us enough stages - and no stage editor!
@miguelferrandisperez57058 жыл бұрын
X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X yep they leave the game pretty bad i would rather having updates with cars and stages instead of another game, but this is they way tney make money
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8 жыл бұрын
Miguel Ferrandis Perez And even worse, it simply fails to simulate rallies this way. Sure, the same or similar stages are used for years, but rallying includes unknown or barely known stages. With just twelve unique stages in the game, Dirt Rally fails to deliver this. Let's see if we'll get a Dirt Rally 2 - I certainly hope so.
@lephilomathe9 жыл бұрын
His trajectories are perfect, his speed too.
@lioneljassin1602Ай бұрын
Absolument incroyable. Voilà pourquoi je crois que le rallye est la discipline la plus difficile (et une des plus dangereuses) des sports mécaniques. Tout au long du visionnage de cette étape mythique, je me disais qu'à la place d'Elena je crois que j'aurais sauté en marche 😅
@AxelBitz4 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how the weather and terrain conditions change, and his ability to adapt to them is impressive
@danilemahle54588 жыл бұрын
magnifique! sans aucun doutes l une des plus belles speciales du monde ce jour la ! en plus Seb offre un pilotage incroyable.
@SportingDrivesinColorado Жыл бұрын
The man is a great artist! Just beautiful! Art at it's finest.
@jimini19767 жыл бұрын
I drive like this in Dirt Rally,,,,between crashes. Very impressive driving👍🏁
@PrimiusLovin7 жыл бұрын
Watching a perfectly tackled rally stage is like poetry in motion
@Garfie1d739 жыл бұрын
Wow - graphics are on a par with DiRT Rally :-D
@t_kups83099 жыл бұрын
+Tobias Just Finland is half a car too wide, tbh.
@Garrett9389 жыл бұрын
+Garfie1d73 I came here because of that game.
@seanhornibrook8 жыл бұрын
+Garfie1d73 IDK... The audio in DiRT Rally is better for sure... And there is too much lens flare in this game. Also, it looks too easy. Whoever was playing this one clearly either does not have the physics turned all the way up or it's just a bad game... I'll stick to DiRT.
@someoneelse57897 жыл бұрын
But dirt rally is arcade on monte carlo tracks at least. if you drive like this on Monte carlo in dirt rally, even clubman AI beats you. At least one driver would always do. Cause in Dirt rally yu have grip on asphalt you never have in reallife.
@josemanueldiazpaton827 жыл бұрын
the name of this stage on dirt rally is "valle descendante", but just the down part.
@potageranimauxetmaisonnatu11219 жыл бұрын
je le regarte comme un clasique du cinema, tout les ans
@jorgeluisaguirre67947 жыл бұрын
increible Sebastian Loeb, aun recuerdo cuando lo vi con mi hijo, por primera vez, conducia un coche privado y ya tenia esa calidad en el manejo, no puedo creer que lo vea ahora como un veterano conductor, no es un conductor espectacular, (no derrapa no patina no salta, jaja) , siempre seguro con un absoluto control de su vehiculo, siempre el mas veloz!!! Fantastico verlo desde su cabina, Fantastico Loeb y Elena!!
@gstrdms9 жыл бұрын
He's so clean that it looks like he's going slow.
@knallpistolen9 жыл бұрын
+gvstradamvs Loeb always was a master on tarmac, it's a joy watching drivers like him do their "magic".
@StereoSnakes9 жыл бұрын
+gvstradamvs Almost looks effortless.
@mooncorp2128 жыл бұрын
Daniel Elena's pacenote are awesome too. He's a great co-pilot.
@Alniemi8 жыл бұрын
i agree its veru clean driving, but on what planet does that look slow XD
@TorAndreBrresen8 жыл бұрын
He is, after the top going down you could drive faster with a road car on proper tires
@markmark52695 жыл бұрын
One critical part of Loeb's driving is every corner he does NOT play with the throttle, letting the chassis and tyres do their work, and only goes WTO one time when he is sure.
@ibanez10124 жыл бұрын
a "sentirlo" guidare è una vera goduria,, non porta mai il motore oltre la curva di coppia...che unito ad una guida di primissimo livello ne hanno fatto il mostro che era con tempi inavvicinabili in speciale,,imbattibile nei suoi anni di wrc, grandissimo pilota!!!!
@VegeXP10 жыл бұрын
Master at work.
@frantiseklupinek61892 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a sight seeing tour from Elena :D Calm, slow , distinct, in time. A nice experience to hear him reading the book.
@awannagannaful4 жыл бұрын
HOLY ****! Props to Navigator also, didnt miss a beat, cool as a cucumber. Msr Loeb... chapeau, esp the downhill section OMG even less chance for error. EPIC
@spapanek17 жыл бұрын
Nice. I love his way of driving. All seem to be so smooth and effortless and that made him so quick. Nice
@GuillaumeWRC510 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! What a legendary crew ! I loved the downhill part. Good decision to have uploaded an onboard like this one wrc, thanks !
@thomasemperor10 жыл бұрын
Really like these videos but they would be even better with telemetry like speedometers, gear, throttle and brake information. Please add those!
@ozdemirmelih4 жыл бұрын
Thomas yeah 👍🏼
@awannagannaful4 жыл бұрын
WGAF if you can't tell when he's on the limit by watching and listening then you dont know s**t about driving.
@melody37414 жыл бұрын
I can hear and watch most of it but the only thing you cant get precise information about is the brakes. You can tell sort of by the speed and how the nose dips but not very well. it would be really cool anyway to see the info laid out in front of you to make it easier to learn from him, he has a point. Also, who the heck claimed to be an expert? Presumably he is here to learn. Like most people.
@domidom85574 жыл бұрын
@@awannagannaful Yeah, all the engineers in motorsports who use telemetry and various data to see exactly what the driver is doing must be clueless aswell. Get off your high horse.
@thandontantiso37442 жыл бұрын
Been 7 years. Still asking for he same think
@tomchamberlain43296 жыл бұрын
Loeb's throttle control is incredible
@shibbi97210 жыл бұрын
j'aime le calme de daniel elena :D
@Sindor335 жыл бұрын
confiance aveugle, ils se connaissent depuis petit
@dbwrc8 жыл бұрын
fantastic to watch a master at work. What is really interesting is to see the adaptation to the change of rhythm.
@knallpistolen9 жыл бұрын
very nice, it's like the mountain roads in Norway. btw Loeb's Pike's peak hill climb record is also nice to watch.
@toniok54284 жыл бұрын
Très beau duo, beau travail, POV impressionnante !!
@baraki8088 жыл бұрын
He's driving so smooth it looks slow damn he can control his car like his own limbs.
@ulysse218 жыл бұрын
He IS slow. I can go faster than that in turns, with my RC WRC
@alexvandeburg4028 жыл бұрын
Maybe but finishing the course is more important. Do not forget the weather conditions.
@passionrallye6 жыл бұрын
Met toi à sa place dans la voiture sur la glace on verra qui conduit le plus lentement
@VaimanikaShastra4 жыл бұрын
a Prost like efficiency, i was always fascinating about the apparently slow tremendously fast Alain-Drive
@tonicoscia52834 жыл бұрын
Grandissimo Loeb..numero 1! 9 volte champion of the world
@Kayspaify10 жыл бұрын
The GOAT.
@leolfy38846 жыл бұрын
@@NastyAngel ptdrrrrrrr
@EthanMars19858 жыл бұрын
This amazing video remind me the beautiful games Sébastien Loeb Rally Evo and Dirt Rally
@outsidethepyramid4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing to watch, never got to see all this on Channel 4.
@dm75838 жыл бұрын
Oh my when this hits VR...just even to watch it would be phenomenal...
@isupportthecurrentthing52256 жыл бұрын
Yes...Rally in virtual reality would be fantastic.
@chrissss6965 жыл бұрын
Guys i have good news for you
@Assassunn5 жыл бұрын
I play Dirt Rally 2 with my Rift S and steering wheel, best gaming experience ever, blown away. I just wish WRC 8 considers to support VR for their coming title in 2020, it looks phenomenal
@cookinbananas7 жыл бұрын
22:23 FLAT OUT !!! What a fast finish
@malaurylormeau61524 жыл бұрын
Le maître en pleine démonstration 🇨🇵😎👍
9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Elena , un exemple pour moi...trop fort..., la Note pile-poil au moment où il faut
@jalletrobinetdominique25309 жыл бұрын
Sébastien Loeb est mon pilote préféré
@oldrichjurecka83647 жыл бұрын
One of the best onboard EVERRR!
@Funkbass19862 жыл бұрын
WOW! I was played this SS in Dirt Rally 2.0, I recognizing turn by turn!
@ArturoLafuente7 жыл бұрын
¡Congratulations Master...! you are the best.
@allyc859 жыл бұрын
Pure class from the master!!!
@SheetFiber6 жыл бұрын
I hate when it comes to the slippery part in Monte Carlo, always DNF, but now I definitely have learnt from the best, thanks to Sébastien Loeb.
@domdemig2 жыл бұрын
This is not Formula One. There is no escape area. Just trees, walls or the ravine. Chapeau ! For Loeb and all the others.
@spapanek15 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I one way it might look to be pretty boring... but god, the precision... Amazing...
@omarsheriff51 Жыл бұрын
He's like Alain Prost. No huge risks, not the fastest on every stage but ends up winning because of consistency. It's like there's a french style of "slow and steady wins the race".
@phil9209 күн бұрын
Elena the orchestra director and Loeb playing the stradivarius, can't be more perfect.
@tadejstanta87108 жыл бұрын
even though he is smoothly driving like a maniac, he finds time at 17:57 to enjoy the view. you gotta love this guy (Y)
@TheKalabrio6 жыл бұрын
We miss u Seb... Champ forever!!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@Panos125S7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian loeb is on legend's list !!!
@marconardi1404 жыл бұрын
The Cannibal 🇫🇷 Sebastian Loeb 🇫🇷 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🔝👍🏻
@06silverhaze6 жыл бұрын
I live here, every winter I try to beat his time with my Corsa 1.2 ecoFLEX never succeeds. :( This road is a real joy.
@SuperJobijoba4 жыл бұрын
lol :p
@kayzenl79114 жыл бұрын
Just add more turbo pressure, it's gonna be fine 😂
@ytrezzzz9 жыл бұрын
Seb , tu es le PLUS GRAND !!
@soulfulfool9 жыл бұрын
with Loeb behind the wheel and onboard camera it looks so easy and smooth ;)
@CARBON104 жыл бұрын
What, I am lying in bed and it's over and I am still braking
@lineaspython77578 жыл бұрын
that bit at 15:40 was reeeally close, incredible.
@matebuljan1497 жыл бұрын
Best driver ever.
@MrJasiek8510 жыл бұрын
The "young" Legend :-) Awesome onboard!
@marconardi1404 жыл бұрын
Grande 🇫🇷 Sebastian Loeb 🇫🇷 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
@ja1212az7 жыл бұрын
Hermoso recorrido entre las sombras y luces de las montañas
@lorenzomazzini24362 жыл бұрын
Incredibile both Daniel and Sebastian 🙌👌
@JoeJacksonGT38 жыл бұрын
His driving lines were perfection...
@vladimirtomin82235 жыл бұрын
He is driving like a racer, he enters the turn slower but with better curve and grip, so he can accelerate faster from the turn instead of sliding. This is fastest way of driving but it looks slower because of how smooth it is. Math and physics are on Loeb's side here.
@CARBON104 жыл бұрын
Well hell I hope so
@corentinoger8 жыл бұрын
With Headphones, you can hear the Turbocharger whistling... For the average tourist, this is probably a two hour drive...
@kayzenl79115 жыл бұрын
I live near this SS and yes I can say that an average tourist can do it in 2 hours haha
@CARBON104 жыл бұрын
YEA, what kind of brakes never mind
@graboy123454 жыл бұрын
It's about a 40 minute drive actually.
@infirmusisdrums7 жыл бұрын
loeb have no rivals.. he is the best and will be the best... always! lmL! my hero..
@josefranciscoarriagadaarri86068 жыл бұрын
extraordinare loeb very good driver the best por ever
@atommi14 жыл бұрын
At 1:33 you can see smoke coming from wreck Jari-Matti left in the ditch. Loeb is so smooth.
@nullvektor99228 жыл бұрын
I watch these onboard recordings for my cardio sessions. I feel like I'm pushing harder when I watch something fast paced.
@dpqbpqbdpqbpqb47547 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! You get a co driver that speaks a foreign language, so you can ignore him !!!! Everyone, but the co driver knows, that the co driver is just there to push the car in case of crash, and no spectators around.
@CARBON104 жыл бұрын
Yea man you made me laugh out loud, funny as
@sebonnefoy4 жыл бұрын
You'll always stay the best in our hearts Sébastien 😉💕FR
@jimbochoo33168 жыл бұрын
Monte Carlo is a hard in Dirt Rally.
@jo27hn6668 жыл бұрын
monte carlo is harder in real life, if you there is not restart stage button
@Mi_Fa_Volare8 жыл бұрын
johnQG88 I've just discovered a restart button after total crash just a little while ago.
@jraybay7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Chau Lol yes 😁
@ABorno-gp5rr4 жыл бұрын
Monte Carlo is the easiest after Germany in DiRT Rally.
@Nockspielt8 жыл бұрын
Nice Graphics!!
@xboxappl6 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful stage.
@thomaswiker347110 ай бұрын
Luckily I was able to see WRC on TV when ESPN would show it and I think mav TV and I always loved it cause reminds me of when the auto industry first started but watching Seb drive is so like art but hey 9 championships in a row can it ever be done again
@blade98528 жыл бұрын
that car has so much torque
@ابافرناندو8 жыл бұрын
hay please where is this place
@jacobroming47688 жыл бұрын
in monte-carlo and france
@ابافرناندو8 жыл бұрын
cachila 😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙😙
@mrqadaffi36386 жыл бұрын
torque about it!
@Wrchd10 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
@MegaMercury138 жыл бұрын
Respect !!! du grand pilotage
@Speedjcp8 жыл бұрын
THE RALLY GOD!
@purwantiallan50894 жыл бұрын
Epic onboard by Loeb although he is not racing full time in WRC ever since
@borderline135r29 жыл бұрын
ce mec est la première personne à qui je confierais ma voiture, impossible d'être aussi calculateur! Et en plus ca semble facile pour lui. Cest pas comme en F1 ou le circuit est tres court et les conditions peut changeante, la, un coup ça adhère de ouf, un coup ça glisse de ouf. ce mec est ultra fort. (je dis pas que les pilotes de f1 sont pas fort !)
@potageranimauxetmaisonnatu11219 жыл бұрын
+Borderline135R Et on peut louer les langes du copilote, quelle presition , cette video m a aide a compre le role fondamentale da voir un copilite
9 жыл бұрын
+sylvain girardot merci...on nous oublie souvent.
@nikch18 жыл бұрын
Le rôle fondamental, haha. Je dirais même le rôle VITAL. Je vous conseille de regarder les documentaires sur Loeb and Elena pour comprendre à quel point Sébastien a sa vie entre les mains de Daniel, et réciproquement Daniel a sa vie entre les mains de Loeb, la marge d'erreur doit être quasi nulle ! :)
@borderline135r28 жыл бұрын
Ivanonoff1 bah en même temps c'est un peu logique ce que tu dis la... Et puis une marge d'erreur quasi nulle je vois pas trop ce que ça veut dire: avec des notes, soit tu lis bien, soit tu lis pas bien. . bref je suis désolé pour elena et pour toi Daniel (petit jeu de mot) mais le pilote est bien plus extraordinaire que le co-pilote. d'ailleurs loeb à gagné en pikes peak (orthographe douteuse). menfin c'est vrai que le co pilote est doué pour parler au bon moment
@factormars43397 жыл бұрын
Borderline135R tu donnes la reponse a ton interrogation.. marge d'erreur quasi nulle car il faut les donner pile au bon moment les indications... et a la vitesse où ca defile... chaud
@naouzdabeast13399 жыл бұрын
17:56 too easy? ahaha
@jraybay4 жыл бұрын
Lol xD
@nathan45308 жыл бұрын
spettacolare,con momenti da brivido!!!!
@lorisvernettiprot95939 жыл бұрын
Che ricordi sul Turini!!!!!!👍👍
@xmanb81932 жыл бұрын
Lobe is the driving machine👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@installshieldwizard30173 жыл бұрын
I think all the while he was a champion his secret was the ability to maintain concentration on the road and pacenotes, that's what made him the best.
@user-73152 жыл бұрын
Watching THIS WP witout sales promotion........................a treat!
@elotelma80849 жыл бұрын
si il avait fait la saison complete en 2013 il aurait ete 10fois champion du monde un grand monsieur un grand champion