Wrestling's Most... #08 | Creative Booker

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[@nichhodge8503]

Vince Russo said in a shoot interview on if he got ideas from ECW “I didn’t get my ideas from ECW like some people think. I didn’t even watch ECW, I think I may of seen about it about 3 times on TV.” Ed Ferra (Russo’s co-writer in WWE & WCW) said in a shoot interview when asked about ECW “Vince and I would both watch ECW & the Jerry Springer Show to get ideas then we’d sit down and write the show (Raw) trying to incorporate on what we had seen.”

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

Russo a fraudulent liar?? No, you don’t say..

[@RichSmithson]

Nice to see the channel back!

[@nichhodge8503]

Yeah I one day couldn’t find the channel I searched for it several times and was disappointed I couldn’t find it but so happy it’s back

[@roryfahy1175]

I can't wait till February 2023 for this to come out. Countin' down the days.

[@fayezfawzi3255]

It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended lol

[@RichSmithson]

Wasn't Sean having trouble with KZbin? Think his videos were getting strikes but its his content.

[@fayezfawzi3255]

@@RichSmithson Yeah, they fixed it

[@paulrodney951]

I'm really happy you guys are back on KZbin. Great stuff always. And IMO, Pat Patterson should #1 on the Creative Booker list.

[@zachstolpa6521]

Much appreciation for the content

[@GlassTarantulah]

Thank you thank you!

[@NLaBar]

No offense to the blue meanie (loved when he & Stevie “covered” kiss at the ecw arena in’96) , but nobody is counting down the hours (days… weeks… months…) til this is uploaded.

[@SmaugUKA]

Exactly. Or any of the other Reminders for videos 3+ months in advance.

[@davidfrederick6003]

To put Vince Russo over Patterson or Watts as a booker is an insult. Apparently the fan voters are attitude era fans and didnt realize who Patterson & Watts were. Id put Russo in later 10 or 20 top creative

[@buzzkillodium]

Without Russo you wouldn't have had the most successful era in wrestling. He deserves his spot

[@ShadowAngel1860]

@@buzzkillodium spoken like a true, clueless mark 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Didn't know WCW 1996 was booked by Russo.

[@buzzkillodium]

@@ShadowAngel1860 feel better? 🤣

[@ShadowAngel1860]

@@buzzkillodium Well the fact that i'm not a clueless retard like you makes me indeed feel better 🥰

[@williamwest9204]

​@@buzzkillodiumit wasnt russo alone in that lol

[@sppspharmdude]

Aye youre back!

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Right, so is the KZbin thing all sorted now

[@fayezfawzi3255]

yeah, I asked them and they replied that the channel has been "un-suspended" :)

[@mjhansford]

Re #3… he was certainly creative. That is for sure. No-one said ‘good’, just ‘creative’.

[@PeteSanctions]

Sean always had a great Russo impression lol

[@jayb-clay2724]

Pritchard mad as shit he wasn't picked lol

[@alaistairhamilton8838]

Bruce just kissed Vince's ass and was a part of his back-slapping brigade! Pat Patterson was a great booker, as were Paul Heyman, Jim Cornette, and Bill Watts. Eddie Graham and Dusty Rhodes were better bookers than Vince Russo, and Vince McMahon might be a good booker, but Pat Patterson was the man who deserves a lot more credit for why WWE is where it is now. As for Bruce Pritchard, he needs to shut up whining!

[@DKD81-tf1db]

​@@alaistairhamilton8838 Couldn't have said it better myself if I tried!

[@MB-oc1nw]

Russo at 3 bro? WTF bro? Seriously bro?....bro!

[@killharry]

Freakin bunch of haters bro, Russo is the best freakin booker of all time bro

[@nichhodge8503]

Number 3 Booker bro!? I’m a writer bro not a booker bro, bro it’s completely different bro!

[@jonbourgoin182]

Blame the fans, they voted him to that spot

[@jamiekmett8847]

Bro, bro, bro... Bro? Bro! Hey bro, BULLSHIT #3, bro!

[@warshipsatin8764]

he was a big part of creative during wwe's most successful period. no amount of jim cornette's impotent anger will change that

[@A_real_Ha_So]

Another name absent from this list was Jerry Jarrett imo. That said, my top 5 are 1: Heyman 2: Cornette 3: Jarrett 4: Graham 5: Watts Honorable mentions Gary Hart, Pat Patterson and Dusty Rhodes

[@ShadowAngel1860]

It's funny how Heyman always gets ranked high by marks, but they can't even say why usually. ECW had how many memorable moments? How many great storylines? ECW moved up how far due to great booking? Funny how a total and complete failure turned somebody into a "legend" in the eyes of clueless people.

[@bambuhboom879]

​@@ShadowAngel1860 Taz V. Sabu, Raven V. Dreamer, The Terry Funk Ascension into the World Title, Raven V. Sandman. As for moments, there are fucking DOZENS at least lmao. The fact that you call other people marks as an insult is also just hilarious considering we're ALL marks, dude.

[@bambuhboom879]

​@@ShadowAngel1860Also, his booking philosophy of accentuating the positives and hiding the negatives was revolutionary for it's time. He never allowed his wrestlers to get exposed by their weaknesses.

[@pikkon899]

@@bambuhboom879 No. Instead he let the wrestlers do that themselves when they went to other promotions and the higher ups realized that they couldn't actually work and had made a mistake by hiring them. Paul basically crippled people's abilities to go elsewhere because they relied heavily on his booking. That's not a positive when the goal for so many was to LEAVE ECW for the big leagues.

[@davidcota4978]

👍

[@zachstolpa6521]

Vince Russo and NOT Eddie graham?!?!?

[@alexpayne7070]

Where is George Scott?

[@JohnDoe__404]

"He had been with some black women, Gary had been to the hood." 😂

[@alaistairhamilton8838]

As I see it, given all I have seen in the 32 years I have been watching professional wrestling, here are my top five bookers: 1. Paul Heyman 2. Pat Patterson 3. Jim Cornette 4. Jim Herd 5. Eddie Graham Vince Russo only did well in WWF because Vince McMahon and Pat Patterson had him on a tight leash and were very selective over which ideas they went with. He doesn't know the wrestling business anywhere near enough to be a compelling booker, and his untethered stint in WCW's last years shows you that. Pat Patterson was brilliant, and he and Paul Heyman really are head and shoulders above the rest.

[@jamiekmett8847]

Sucks the Artful Dodger is running his clueless trap here...

[@Vercingetorix.Fantasia]

My god, this series was filmed 15 years ago. Originaly aired what 6 years ago... are these new ?

[@thedude4672]

These are from the vault.

[@Blacattacsquadron]

No!

[@TheDukeofMadness]

Bit of a wait on this one.

[@fayezfawzi3255]

It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended too lol

[@MrMTGPsycho]

I think Matt Stryker said it best in Cornette's part, I think Cornette, to a point, would agree with Stryker. The fact Vince is not only not on here and Russo is let alone the fact he isn't number one skips to the skew of voting. Vince McMahon has made more money, drawn more eyes, had more acclaim with his booking than everyone on this list combined. Yes he had help from Russo, Cornette, and Heyman, but it was Vince in the end. Heyman will tell you, Cornette will tell you, if he feels like telling the truth even Russo in his 80's HS student way will tell you; the WWE succeed because of Vince McMahon.

[@williamhild1793]

Vince Russo is on this list. Eddie Graham is not. Wow.

[@MB-oc1nw]

I'm guessing the voters must have started watching wrestling in the late 90's.

[@peterf08]

Russo wrote the highest ratings in wrestling history of course he should be on the list

[@Blacattacsquadron]

Because Dusty stole his style and everyone is giving the credit to him.

[@williamwest9204]

​@@peterf08in a time period where the most amount of people could afford to own a TV moron.

[@dif187]

Listening to Shane Douglas compare Vince Russo to Vince McMahon left me googly eyed.

[@pikkon899]

Shane Douglas always tries to sound smarter than he is.

[@warshipsatin8764]

did the other kayfabe commentary get deleted again, despitrle the appeal?

[@KCVault]

This is the OG and we finally got it back

[@warshipsatin8764]

@@KCVault nice. hopefully that means this channel has been verified as the content owner/creator and it wont happen again

[@axeman6598]

Bruce makes me I'll.

[@davidfrederick6003]

That comment "Kevin Sullivan, Dusty Rhodes, Eddie Graham never mentioned" PAUL HEYMAN??? Yes he made word extreme a household name, but thats it.

[@jack_green]

Well he also was the mind behind SD, after the brand split

[@Blacattacsquadron]

The Dangerous Alliance was the heel stable of all stables in the late 80's and early 90's. He saved WCW from that horsemen crap that was long dead.

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

19:40-19:47 😂😂😂

[@eddiemoney1093]

I think kevin sullivan got short changed here.

[@davidfraser6950]

Vince,Pat,Eddie,Dusty and Paul.1 to 5.

[@keeganhurley119]

I love how everyone eviscerated Russo

[@newageorganzation]

I would say Vince McMahon is 1 Bischoff is 2 for the nwo angle... It changed blew the doors off the business 3. I would put Patterson 4. Eddie Graham 5. Dusty Rhodes

[@ShadowAngel1860]

Technically 2. should then be Kevin Sullivan because he booked all the nWo stuff. Bischoff just puked out the idea he stole from Japan. Otherwise he was responsible for crap like Blood runs Cold and the Kiss Demon.

[@jonsanchez3124]

Almost forgot this series quickly becomes “has beens show how bitter and out of touch they are”

[@wardengentles53]

I didn't see anyone bitter, or out of touch. Seen this years ago. I mean, what are you talking about?

[@jonsanchez3124]

@@wardengentles53 no one asked for your useless opinion

[@Blacattacsquadron]

​@@wardengentles53his name is a big enough explanation.

[@travelreview5962]

Who?

[@williamwest9204]

​@@Blacattacsquadronu mean russo lol

[@alaistairhamilton8838]

I do notice the bitterness of Bruce Pritchard that he isn't on that list. He had no place being on it in the first place! He was just a sycophantic 'yes' man to Vince McMahon, and not a creative person.

[@nichhodge8503]

Number 3 Booker bro!? I’m a writer bro not a booker bro, bro it’s completely different bro!

[@Kylersinjin]

Blue Meanie's cracker analogy was spot on.

[@markk7731]

who is this dude?

[@danielburger1775]

He used to be friends with JBL.

[@Foxo-Matti12]

Cornette is there just because of the internet marks.

[@stevenfallon4244]

How tf is Vince Russo on the list?

[@frankohbk]

They should do a new version of these lists with a new rule: no one under 30 years old is allowed to vote.

[@HunterXWorld95]

The fact that they would put Vince shitstain Russo above Pat fucking Patterson and cowboy Bill Watts… no Dusty Rhodes, no Eddie Graham, no Terry Funk, and no fucking Vince McMahon? These people have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about when it comes to booking.

[@Durakken]

I think a lot of times people don't know what words mean... Russo is definitely the most creative booker. Paul Heyman is probably number 2. That doesn't make them the good, let alone the best booker... I think people interpreted this as "best" not "most creative"

[@williamwest9204]

Except hes not, he copied jerry springer

[@ThePunk01]

Russo never booked. He was an idea guy, he didn't book 1 match in WWF

[@Durakken]

@@ThePunk01 That's more accurate than not... I mean. It would be even more accurate to say he regurgitated ideas had by other people devoid of context of where they came from

[@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630]

Bruce was hard on corny 😂

[@williamwest9204]

Hes mad cause corny makes fun of him

[@pikkon899]

@@williamwest9204 Not when this was filmed. They were still very good friends. Bruce would always crack jokes at Jim and Jim would do the same during this time period. Corentte's time to shine as booker was Smokey Mountain and it went out of business. As much as people love Corny, he's stuck in the 80's. I'd have to agree with Bruce on this one, same with Heyman. They both had companies that went out of business with the 2 of them as lead and unchallenged bookers. Heyman in WWE had Vince to oversee him like Russo did. That's the difference. Much of Heyman's ideas in ECW weren't even his. Raven and Dreamer were also there helping Heyman out.

[@chriswarfield7520]

Russo #3 is insane. Doesn't belong on the list. I'd put Kevin sullivan, dusty rhodes, and jerry jarrett/bill dundee above fucking russo and Graham didn't even make the list? Wtf

[@GlassTarantulah]

Paul Heyman number 1? Nope. Show's the demohraphic who voted.

[@toxicculture4682]

asking people to vote who cant spell wrestling

[@davidcota4978]

spelled wrong at 6:14

[@jessiepalermo7234]

Russo should have gotten #1. Haters will hate but facts are facts.

[@Foxo-Matti12]

facts.

[@Tumorcoach]

Facts are he isn’t number 1

[@stuartday1330]

That dude said Kevin Sullivan should be put on the list. He sucks and has sucked. Dungeon of Doom. Being too legit to quit. His promos are horrific. I hope Benoit whooped him in any of their matches.

[@cameronkemp6470]

Poor Bruce.. so fucking clueless.

[@davidfrederick6003]

All time creative bookers #1 Vince McMahon (?) #2 Pat Patterson #3 Eddie Graham #4 Dusty Rhodes #5 Bill Watts #6 Paul Heyman

[@Blacattacsquadron]

Dusty is #6. Dusty's style comes from Bill's and St Louis with the over the top finishes of Graham!

[@williamwest9204]

Vinces creativity came from Pat

[@kaodik]

Wow. February. Ok. Ha

[@fayezfawzi3255]

It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended lol

[@WilliamSt.Clair1399]

Let’s go! I didn’t realize Cornette was a heavy leftist. First time I’ve ever liked him even a little bit. 😂

[@williamwest9204]

Hes left leaning and old, but hes not like these modern psychopaths in the left

[@SmaugUKA]

Having a Reminder made for a KZbin Video that doesn't come out until February of next year is not necessary and is advertising something WAY too far in advance. For KZbin Videos, Reminders should be Uploaded within 2 weeks of a Video coming out...maybe a month tops. Anything more than that and it's worthless. People forget stuff they did yesterday, let alone getting a head's up for something being shown in 8 months. This isn't blockbuster type movie Trailers, or future information for an upcoming video game, or a Presale of an upcoming product. You have to look at this from a Social Media/KZbin standpoint, and not one in the same fashion as Hollywood movies or big budget video games. I would suggest removing the Reminders for all videos that aren't coming out in the next month or 2.

[@stephenjones1488]

You'll get over it. Ain't not a nobody reading that novel of a comment.

[@SmaugUKA]

@@stephenjones1488 More people read full comments than you'd think. Just because you don't want to read it all, doesn't mean others do not, or will not. By the amount of Likes I continually get on my Comments (long or short), it shows people read it fully. Get over what? I didn't take anything personally, or get upset over it. What I wrote is called constructive criticism. Nothing written was to complain and or based on emotions.

[@RichSmithson]

@@SmaugUKA Calm down. He was having problems with youtube and i think some of his videos got striked.

[@fayezfawzi3255]

I agree. Ironically, It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended even lol

[@Blacattacsquadron]

​@@RichSmithsonthey did! The wrestlers wanted more money because these vids from Sean was banging and generated a lot of money but Sean worked with trash and they broke him.

[@JohnnyScumbagg]

This list is way off

[@harrisonwarner6437]

VR as three 🤮🔫

[@EarthdogGFX]

Pull it

[@stuartday1330]

I disagree with Brother Love about Paul Heyman. He's such an ass kisser. McMahon is not creative.

[@LeoWhalen1933]

So much recency bias on this series... Im not a total Russo hater, but he should NOT have been on here.

[@frieza1679]

I disagree with Matt . I'm an nwa wcw Smokey mountain tna impact fan .I don't really like Vince or his "booking" . Haven't watched wwe on purpose in years lol