Why Musk and Other Tech Execs Want as Many Babies as Possible | WSJ

[@wsj]

How America’s baby bust became an election issue: on.wsj.com/4dgkAVt

[@ji8044]

It's not an election issue, don't be ridiculous.

[@OrenIshiii-rg7sr]

Always rich people saying this kind of things XD WELL YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF WITH ALL YOUR WEALTH I fail to see why 1 Man cant get 1000 mil WMN Pegnant?

[@reardelt]

Robotics can solve the issue of lack of young people.

[@nyxstrix0]

Why did you change the title? "Pronatalism, Explained: Why Tech Elites Want Us All to Have More Kids | WSJ"

[@nyxstrix0]

Original title: "Pronatalism, Explained: Why Tech Elites Want Us All to Have More Kids | WSJ"

[@legday1337]

so basically they say that if population declines, so will their profits

[@LogarAcc]

Yes, and they try to make this OUR problem, as if we care. The AUDACITY of those ultra-rich leeches preaching their pronatalist propaganda, when most of them are absent fathers and horrible husbands is beyond me.

[@nigeld3206]

@@legday1337 I was waiting for someone to say it in plain language and you did. I personally think population decline is what will save the planet not the opposite - their logic is seriously flawed.

[@angelirika]

Yep

[@Johan.V10]

And Yours!!!

[@PhilosopherKing-d4n]

Nailed😂

[@ashleebennett8478]

And yet Elon Musk is not exactly known for supporting a family-friendly corporate work culture.

[@pretzelboi64]

Dude can't even be friendly to his own family

[@PhilosopherKing-d4n]

Family- friendly culture can reduce profit rates 😂

[@sober_soul_1]

Thats why he is creating robots

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

​@@sober_soul_1 Robots who will replace millions of jobs.

[@rhino5100]

One of his children just changed her last name to stop being associated with him.

[@barcelonachair6487]

Elon's adult children are already demonstrating what happens when children grow up in these conditions. They want no part of it and they grow to hate its creator. I am tired of this tech community, who were not socialised decades ago, given the power to ruin our world and the way we now communicate, socialise and interact.

[@Dbeiejeenwiwnsbsiekwnwhsurekeb]

It’s more than The technology fam

[@AroundTheWorldWithEase]

Maybe you should have been paying attention when they weren't being socialized and or exp trauma.

[@janicewolk6492]

Back to the basement. Why should people conform to their ideas?

[@janicewolk6492]

​@@AroundTheWorldWithEaseI hope I have misunderstood your comment because it sounds whining and self-indulgent.

[@rodribrito]

Elon has 12 children and lives with none of them. What an amazing father.

[@Gekko-t4i]

how many you

[@acmelka]

He's a creepy dude. Rumors that he's taking extreme doses of testosterone as part of a quack anti aging program. That's what got Charlie Sheen to go Vatican Assassin from Mars

[@colbywhite2717]

@@Gekko-t4i no number stated changes the fact Elon couldn't father his way out of a paper bag.

[@kateshaw8334]

I think it might actually be 14. They didn't consider his son who died or his daughter with Amber Heard.

[@kateshaw8334]

@@MichaelMillerGR Elon doesn't have contact with his eldest daughter - does that seem 'wanted' to you?

[@KevinMB]

These people are so detached from reality it hurts. Birth rates are declining because most people can't afford to have kids anymore... In the meantime, they're sequencing the genome of all of their embroys, hiring others to take care of their kids (or in Musk's case, ignoring them) and then blame "urban monoculture". I have a PhD in biochemistry and even for me having kids is a huge financial burden. The best way to fix fetility rates is to increase income equality.

[@bwin3401]

In S Korean culture, it’s more than just economic but also the misogyny baked into their lives. Japan has the same issues.

[@savaget2058]

It's not income equality, the guy working at McDonald's shouldn't be making as much as the biochemist with a PhD. It's income sustainability. You generally should be able to afford the costs of life, the more money you just give people however, the more these businesses that supply us will charge for everything.

[@savethezombies]

@@savaget2058 I think that's what he's saying. A lot of young people can't have kids for financial reasons, until we balance out what some people make with what others make, birth rates will continue to decline. Sure the McDonalds worker shouldn't make as much as the Biochemist but either one should make enough to take care of a kid or two.

[@BalthasarGelt-x2d]

People used to just have kids and be poor.

[@BalthasarGelt-x2d]

This is also a global phenomenon, including, and actually especially, in countries where incomes and living standards are rising rapidly.

[@Nicho2020]

According to Voltaire, 'the comfort of the rich depends on an abundant supply of the poor'.

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

According to Jesus, "the poor will always be among us".

[@vice.nor.virtue]

Why do Voltaire quotes always seems so OTT proletariot, and I say that as a member of the proletariat.

[@queenbee4350]

Exactly. This push for people to have children is just so there are enough workers to work these awful jobs and fund social security

[@___beyondhorizon4664]

That's why certain people support Project 2025, ban abortion

[@dr.brennstab2201]

@@TheRadioAteMyTV Not if we stop to reproduce.

[@seandonaldson5084]

Don't fix the way our economies operate. Just have more babies.

[@billygoatgruff3536]

Litterally all economic models require labour. All of them.

[@ent1311]

​@@billygoatgruff3536 what point were you trying to make?

[@leontaecoleman3644]

as long as theirs greedy rich people it will never change.

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

🎯 So much for finding solutions to real problems

[@vcombatx7165]

I mean even in Socialism or State Capitalism, people need to get children.

[@winj3r]

Funny how these billionaires are all for people having more children, while making sure the economy and wages are terrible for working people. How can people have children if they can't afford to.

[@skylinefever]

The Collins will argue that if subsistence farmers have 5 kids in mud huts, affordability does not matter.

[@martymarl4602]

Because they want rich yt people to have more kids...they just can't say it out loud

[@skylinefever]

@@martymarl4602 There are pronatalists trying to get middle income white and Asian people to reproduce. Japan and South Korea have had arguments for years. Red China ended the one child law years ago.

[@skylinefever]

@@martymarl4602 they mention various types of Asians and natalism, and the point was deleted. Gaslight was supposed to be a horror film. Big tech thought it was an instruction manual.

[@tylerharris4392]

It's not children that they want, it's cattle

[@jorgeastiazaran]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="118">01:58</a> "Our economic model will collapse if population does not grow indefinitely ". I think it is clear that the economic model which works on the principle of infinite growth is just fundamentally wrong. Regardless of population size, we must restructure our economy in a way it is sustainable for a longer term.

[@kool2btrue]

That assertion they make is also not true. There will be more limited economic growth if the population shrinks rapidly, but there is actually an equilibrium point where it is just maintainable.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

@@kool2btrue Not presently, there's too much debt. If we'd spotted it more generations ago then yes but we have lost balance.

[@erstwhile3793]

Our economic model was always going to collapse. It’s absurdly unsustainable and any 10 yr old can see this. Earth is finite. Infinite “growth” where growth=turning the materials the earth is composed of into products to be sold, which must then be turned into garbage so that more products can be sold than before…that is a ridiculous equation that can never lead to anything BUT collapse. There isn’t a “solution” to this fact. The “natalist” concept is simply a distraction from having to face the reality of what our economic system always was and still is; unsustainable. Now that the symptoms of it’s inevitable outcome are more and more obvious, the very wealthy will only work harder and harder to ignore the truth, because it threatens their faith in money and in their own superior natures by virtue of having all the money. The rest of us have not got that luxury. And many of the younger folks, completely unsurprisingly, are deciding not to have children.

[@skylinefever]

@@dontcallthemliberals3316 Too many previous generations created debt because they knew they would be extinct before paying it off.

[@plantbasedsenior4240]

I think our planet Earth may have something to say about infinite growth.

[@filastine]

This video is the exception to the rule “Never read the comments”. Thanks dear commenters for proving that we aren’t all fools.

[@carolyntalbot947]

I had the same thought, what a nice surprise.

[@exyl_sounds]

Completely disagree

[@PASH3227]

Im sorry Elon but unless you're providing more of your workers maternity leave and free childcare you're doing nothing to fix this.

[@yshivamkumar2135]

really tells u what its really about. he is all talk tbh. he doesnt care. its just good press for him

[@Coastpsych_fi99]

He barely sees his kids and one doesn’t speak to him. It’s quite sad

[@Coastpsych_fi99]

@@yshivamkumar2135He wants more wage slaves and consumers

[@ij4674]

It's proven that none of such measures are doing anything to increase the rates. Hungary, South Korea etc has spend billions for increasing the rates, even though Hungary has seen mild success it's now projected to fall again.

[@45414]

Actually, most of Tesla's employees can afford as many children as they desire.

[@Festa_noi]

The wolfs are sad, the sheep are not reproducing anymore.

[@alterego3734]

You wish.

[@fran6049]

😂

[@blckoutx3551]

Are you 12?

[@MarioMario-vy4bi]

are the wolves crying in the replies right now?

[@JohnSmith-tl8pq]

Sheep is singular and plural. No such thing as 'sheeps'.

[@93pants93]

The Collins’s sound very out of touch with the real world

[@K4R3N]

Jeez. She's running as a Republican the most anti-Family party in USA.

[@teresamagnusson]

I think they're siblings

[@lucassilvas1]

@@teresamagnusson he looks like he keeps some people in his basement

[@teresamagnusson]

​@@lucassilvas1Definitely

[@teresamagnusson]

​He talks like it, too. She looks like she helps lure them in

[@Samantha-hx8cb]

I will NEVER have children. This makes it more so. They just want workers

[@sumanthasaha7207]

More like they want more customers to buy their products and make them richer.

[@johnc3525]

@@sumanthasaha7207 They want both.

[@LogarAcc]

Exactly, I won't be an incubator for the rich. I won't birth another minimum-wage worker while they go vacations in their yachts with underage girls.

[@kameliastoyanova7198]

They don't seem to care about the humane side of things, just from the "resource/tool" kind of things. They want to preserve the system "...the economy is going to crumble" not the people.

[@karimbelfort2919]

​@@kameliastoyanova7198well said

[@richjohnson8777]

When the oceans stop rising. When coral stops bleaching. When animals and plants stop going extinct at an alarming rate, etc, etc. Then fine go at it and have all the kids you can muster. But when you want an abundance of children because of the economy it just doesn't seem good enough. This video was also amazingly lily white.

[@bwin3401]

Completely agree with this. A healthy planet is foundational to a healthy future here. Reducing our numbers is one element we can control.

[@DebraCoughlin-s6l]

I didn't know that! Ty

[@actionforanimals4862]

If these billionaires paid their employees more then they could afford to have children. End of problem.

[@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836]

Lol. You're obviously not familiar with salaries in the tech sector, or economics in general.

[@corpslave]

​@@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836 Lol. Did you just assume everyone works in tech sector?

[@Mr.Miller9]

What are you doing to improve the economic conditions of the modern American?

[@EllieRose-p2l]

​@@Mr.Miller9 he is a ordinary folk he cant do much and he doesnt have employees working under him

[@curiousnomadic]

Or lowered the cost of living by eliminating tariffs. barring hedge fund from gobbling up property and forgiving college loans, all things Republicans block.

[@ii-dh7lq]

“The entire economic and geopolitical system that our world runs on will begin to fall apart” THEN LET IT FALL!!!

[@skylinefever]

@@ii-dh7lq that which cannot continue will not continue. These people just want the thing to continue a little longer.

[@Boomerrage32]

I couldn't agree more! Wake the F up, Samurai.

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

Agree.

[@geogyjose8891]

Is being rich a mental illness? I'm actually starting to get concerned about some of these folks...

[@gregoberski5897]

There's a two way relationship; the ludicrous, extreme wealth that billionaires have, is very conducive to developing all kinds of mental neuroses, being so fundamentally disconnected from the reality and experience of 99.999% of humanity. As well, it typically takes a certain kind of psychopathy, greed, and drive for power over all else to attain that level of wealth, if you're not just born into it.

[@kameliastoyanova7198]

Not only the rich people think the same (or similar way). But it's them who have much higher chance to appear on TV (or other media). There are quite a lot of working class people thinking similarly.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Hoarding (money) is a mental illness, so is excessive superiority, that’s called clinical narcissism

[@BalthasarGelt-x2d]

Are you okay with societal collapse?

[@rudra62]

It's a form of hoarding. No different than hoarding newspapers or hoarding cats.

[@riobrasilsambashowssambist1453]

There are so many children suffering in foster care system; we should also consider adoption.

[@kueifengtung]

The ending with that mom strapped with babies hanging off of her surrounded by giant guns on walls is just surreal.. That's so unsafe.

[@LisaFaiss]

They have extras.

[@Chels-fz5uq]

it's called a cult. they're a cult.

[@omicron2018]

Naw, it's just natural selection. The toddler who develops the height, intelligence, and/or manual dexterity to acquire and operate the weapon first will win. With the others out of the way, that toddler will be cloned, and all resources will be devoted to their prosperity. C'mon, this is an OBVIOUS no-brainer. My money's on Champion.

[@DebraCoughlin-s6l]

The guns have more rights than the kids.

[@robotman011]

Have they tried, oh idk...paying people more so they can afford having kids in the first place?

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Before the pill this was not an option. Babies were made from adults doing adult things, the pill made it so adults can do whatever they want, which is the opposite of being an adult.

[@JRPGGUY]

Blashemy 🤬

[@thijsjong]

Wages are undercut by mass immigration. Immigration also drives up rent

[@MCRuCr]

@@TheRadioAteMyTV well, woman can do whatever they want

[@_september_4799]

⁠​⁠@@thijsjongThe venture capitalist making sweeping purchases on real estate and consolidating so they can charge more are just a coincidence then

[@itsomethingreat]

More babies = more customers and money for the ultra rich. More babies = more work, more competition and more struggle for the rest of us.

[@twilightknight2333]

More babies = better economy, more social welfare, and family support... You're an idiot if you think having a large young working population is a negative at all.

[@stefanisilva2493]

​@@twilightknight2333Yeah, that's why huge population Índia and Áfrican countries have much better life conditions then low birth rare Europe 😅

[@LogarAcc]

@@twilightknight2333 Stop with the pronatalist propaganda, none of those are true. The more crowded a place is, the worse the conditions are for the vast majority.

[@peter130476]

@@twilightknight2333 You are wrong. I am Romania. Dictator Ceaușescu wanted more babies, gave laws for that and that brought poverty, overcrowded cities and pollution. Nothing positive about a large young working population. Life becomes cheap.

[@ayush8650]

​@@stefanisilva2493 Europe was built on plundering. It was an anomaly now receding to its true level

[@Volvo-f2y]

Elon Musk's family life: 1. Wives divorced him multiple times. 2. Elon Musk's daughter Vivian disowned him. 3. Inspite of all the PR, his relationships with his other children are perturbing. But we are here to learn even about such a decision as personal as marriage and having kids from Sir Elon. Really?

[@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836]

"Sir Elon" Really??? Dude worked harder than you can even imagine to get where he is.

[@hdaviator9181]

You mean his son that was brainwashed by the mainstream media disowned him?

[@TomNook.]

Those with lots of children tend not to care how they are raised, just that they exist. Quantity, not quality

[@mastershredder2002]

You mean mentally ill son, not daughter.

[@argusburebistus8602]

@@TomNook. Really i got 11 and another on his way ? I quantity and quality !

[@nemiloszorka1162]

Does anyone else finds that it is really strange that a family with 4, 5, 6 children has assault riffles hanged on the walls of their house? What are those riffles for? To increase the population?

[@bwin3401]

To decrease the unwanteds in the population.

[@BorisForOffice]

Those aren't assault rifles. And the purpose of having a common rifle in the home is to protect against people who would want to kill them. Judging by all the crazies in this comment section hating on them, it makes a lot of sense to be able to protect your family

[@nemiloszorka1162]

@@BorisForOffice yes they are assault riffles, and why would you need them to protect your family, from the people who don't own guns, and are against violence? Next time you write a comment, first read it, before posting, to be sure it makes any sense or logic in the real life.

[@myork9203]

“We may enter a state where the global economy is shrinking every year on average. We simply didn’t build the global economy with this potentiality ever in mind.” Despite all his cleverness, he doesn't realize how much irony and stupidity there is in this perspective.

[@tristanmcmorran2217]

“One of our embryos is in the 99.8th percentile, or something completely insane, for intelligence. We call him ‘the champion’” Yeah, that’s a normal and healthy way to approach having kids. This can’t be real. Wall Street Journal, did you guys make an episode of Black Mirror and this is your fun little way of announcing it?

[@malice4422]

The fact that they don’t even recognize the absurdity…

[@JJs_playground]

I know, what a cringe comment.

[@joyndingo2224]

they had me up until that point

[@K4R3N]

BRAVE NEW WORLD predicted all this. Good book!

[@incyphe]

That was disturbing.

[@insanejb]

I can’t even support my self, how am I supposed to raise a kid?

[@pelangos]

That's Bidenomics! It's a cole worll

[@JosedeJezeus]

Human beings evolved to live in tribes, not marriages. This is why gangs and cults are so attractive to human beings, because they fulfill the human NEED to belong to a tribe.

[@mr.priman]

@@JosedeJezeusor to be dumm, it is also big need (no judging😂)

[@roguetrader33]

@@TC-zf1ji Is that your explanation for a declining birthrate across the entire west?

[@roguetrader33]

​@@TC-zf1ji People aren't having children because they can't afford it. So the entire west has a low birthrate because these people didn't didn't do well in school?

[@AlanSmith88888]

So you're telling me rich people can have more children? Who would have thought? I wonder what they are doing to help the middle/lower class afford children though? They are THE MAIN reason for wealth inequality which is the BIGGEST factor in birth-rate decline.

[@nicolebalmier]

exactly. and I applaud people who have stopped having children they cant afford. Don't bring an innocent life into suffering and struggle.

[@IanImes-y3f]

Why would you want to help poor people afford to have children when it's the elites who have the good genes such as the "champion?" We are all dirty and should just accept the fact that we will become free servants to our tech masters. How beautifully Darwinian

[@Price-kl3lb]

Income inequality causes low birth rates? Yet somehow the richest countries have the lowest birth rates and poor countries have much higher birth rates. Your sources are wrong.

[@MrShikaga]

Wealth inequality is not the reason for declining birth rates. People who live in extreme poverty have more children than those who live western lifestyles. The reason for low birth rates is that our culture no longer respects parenting. We have gone from a time when everyone would be praised for having loads of children to one where people are shamed for creating more consumers of fossil fuels.

[@luddity]

@@Price-kl3lb The big difference is in the availability of birth control, and also educational opportunities. But kids eventually look after their aging parents and join the family businesses from an early age in many low income countries, where there are no pensions or aged care facilities or daycare centers. Whereas kids here are a net drain on income.

[@FilmSureelist97]

This is something straight out of a dystopian horror movie.

[@beatricet5682]

The procreationist couple bragging about how smart their embryo is meant to become is revolting. No child should be quantified in such a way. Kindness and compassion are far more important traits.

[@manyman234]

Pronatalist* procreationist would presumably be someone who is for teaching creationism over evolution

[@rafaelsanson3124]

Intelligent means it can contribute more to society

[@beatricet5682]

@@rafaelsanson3124 that's simply not true. There are plenty of highly intelligent people who don't contribute to society. People with empathy and compassion are far more likely to spark positive change in the world. Kindness is more important than intelligence.

[@beatricet5682]

@@manyman234 Creationist, not procreationist, is the term for people who don't believe in evolution. In this context I'm using the term procreationist to describe this group of people who are in favour of procreation, a.k.a. reproduction. They may use pronatalist, in this instance I'm choosing to use the term procreationist. Either way, I don't agree with their thinking.

[@manyman234]

@@beatricet5682 ahhhhhhh

[@TheRabbitPlays]

Always rich people saying this kind of things

[@Never-ending_]

And who would you want to change the culture? The homeless?

[@TheRabbitPlays]

@@Never-ending_ That does not make sense ,yes the homeless want to change the culture,they are a negative part of todays culture,what i mean is that its always the rich that have this ideas of having alot of children because they dont know the reality of living with a minimal wage,i would love to have 3/4 children like my grandfathers did,but i want to give my children al the things that i did not have so for that i can only have one ,and even then its hard (ps for context i live in portugal one of the lowest wages in europe,but i think this way of thinking is general )

[@samuelg.s457]

​@@Never-ending_Sorry if I come too harsh, I just wanna point out my opinion. The declining fertility rates all over the world aren't low because homeless people decide it. It is a trend, a trend that lots of different people from lots of different backgrounds are being part of. So, for me, the rich couple on this video may not know the full picture for their solutions that, if i understand correctly, is proposed as a general solution. So it may be heard as "high and mighty" arrogance. Personally, I know that there will be an economic basis change if the age pyramid is no longer a pyramid, but that change can be for the best, an opportunity to repair and adjust by necessity many systems that need changes.

[@OrenIshiii-rg7sr]

Always rich people saying this kind of things XD WELL YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF WITH ALL YOUR WEALTH I fail to see why 1 Man cant get 1000 mil WMN Pegnant?

[@crepooscul]

@@Never-ending_ Hard working people, not rich parasites.

[@jarupongch]

U know there's another solution, right? re-draw, and re-think our economics systems, and get rid of the assumptions of infinite growth.

[@RuthM.-to3ll]

Thank you.

[@kumaragurusubramanian581]

​@@SimonTmte everything will find its new equilibrium. I don't advocate for pronatalism, I advocate for healthier population demographics,. Let the population decline, I don't think it's gonna decline indefinitely just like I don't think economies are gonna grow indefinitely. The population will reduce and stabilize in a healthier population demographics, much like today. The transition would be rough, but it's inevitable for the better quality of life for all of us and all in it on earth.

[@nitika9769]

amen

[@Eversquall9]

WSJ just casually reporting on the pros and cons of pro-white pro-natal neo-eugenics practices 😮

[@nycarrhythmiacarepllc7894]

Yup

[@Sarappreciates]

My husband and I have been married for over 30 years, no kids. Being childless is a luxury, so I've been told by some of my parent friends. We decided during the LA riots after Rodney King was beaten in 1991. There was news footage of a truck driver being pulled from his truck, beaten, stomped, cement bricks dropped on his head, when my husband and I looked at each other and both said at the same time, "Let's not have kids." The world is too messed up to bring any more into the mix.

[@BorisForOffice]

The solution to a messed up world is to raise good children and help the world become a better place; not to let evil people run it

[@Sarappreciates]

@@BorisForOffice Our thinking was more like rats in a maze. You can add more "good" rats, but it'll still be overcrowded and chaotic. It won't "better" rat society to add more nice rats.

[@janviersnow1013]

I remember watching that on TV😢

[@AndersonHLucht]

this couple is just a particularly evil set of Pixar villains

[@BI-sd3sw]

Jeez these Collinses are so weird - optimising their embryos and walking the treadmill with the baby and a massive AR15 on the wall.

[@ericgr33n]

I completely missed the AR15 on the wall while she was walking on the treadmill! Insaaaane.

[@LSSYLondon]

She's running as a Republican on a pro natalist platform. Says it all...

[@ngrader]

I bet these guys have Project 2025 materials on VHS. O_O

[@kayshawnfoster5834]

Someone finally noticed

[@moniepanda13]

I just rewind the video of the AR15 on the wall. and let me think: Wait a second???!! jeez these people.

[@AlanStock-wt5tm]

Just scratch a little bit under the surface of this and it gets real dark, real quick

[@DavidVonR]

Yes. I don't agree with JD Vance on everything, but his comments on childfree people being more sociopathic and mentally unstable are correct.

[@RunaroundAtNight]

@@DavidVonR Nice troll.

[@superblondeDotOrg]

@@DavidVonR JD Vance should sit on his couch.

[@Mimicry161]

neo-eugencis?

[@sarahhaley7458]

@@DavidVonR you probably put your socks on backwards and just didn’t notice anything , again, though

[@89guines]

Wanting more kids but at the same time creating the technology that will replace them in the work force. Not adding up

[@LSSYLondon]

Thank you!

[@misael.maced0]

this 👆🏻

[@Iron_Void]

Right? Like i never got that.😂

[@OneLine122]

It does. Altman is also for UBI and robots need customers. Besides there are plenty of things people can do that can't be done by robots, like training robots.

[@JGambrosia]

Life isn’t about rote work. Most work is meaningless.

[@marilenaganea6578]

Awwwww... The poor rich! No children - no workers - no consumers - no profits

[@lisalove6327]

Awe no 🙄

[@viggipedia]

"The tech serfs want more peasants to work for them." There fixed the title

[@omerkhaled4453]

No more kids No more wage slaves

[@vice.nor.virtue]

wait what. You know that society starts collapsing if you have no more babies. It's literally the driving force of the story of Children of Men

[@mindgames7411]

Amen

[@luddity]

Or cannon fodder, or consumers. The rich depend on an abundance of poor (workers) and middle class (consumers) people to maintain their wealth. That's why so many immigrants are being brought in right now, to make up the shortfall, but it could backfire on the Democrats, since most immigrants tend to have more conservative values and may not vote the way they expect.

[@yarpen26]

Yeah, I bet all those who refuse to have kids despite having ample opportunities to have them are doing so to just spare the unborn all this world misery they can see on their iPhone screens over the morning coffee.

[@skylinefever]

​@@yarpen26why should I rip someone out of perfect nonexistence?

[@JamieSingsSometimes]

Those people are weird.

[@blueskybluesky4014]

I try to understand what’s going on here😂😂😂😂

[@oogway73]

They're not weird, just...interesting. It's as if they are aliens attempting to present themselves as humans.

[@Drzzlt]

mom working on her laptop with her baby strapped to herself while on the threadmill with an AR hung up on the wall with an extended mag. sounds like a promt for generative AI for a distopian future and yet here she is, pretending that this is the right way of life.

[@erickmagana353]

I didn't notice the assault weapon 😂

[@timmboz5519]

Freaking scary. And people buy it…

[@cocohan69]

My thoughts exactly!!!

[@forest6234]

Hahaha thanks I was wondering who was going to call them out crazy 😅

[@nickolasbrown5928]

What's the point of all our so-called "advancements" if quadruple multitasking is required to live a decent life?

[@andresceballos3321]

The AR15 on the wall speaks louder than any of the words

[@vere9652]

Our world is overpopulated, cities overcrowded, resources depleted. Ai and robots will automatize most of jobs and will left most of people jobless. We need to reduce our population and make robots to work for us, not the kids. They say, they look into the future, but they don't see the wider context.

[@colbywhite2717]

oh they see the wider context....think about how much ai research is being applied to the military think about the climate crisis, the issues with climate refugees that are only going to get worse....pretty sure they know what they're doing....

[@vere9652]

@@colbywhite2717 Irony?

[@Uns4rmLhr]

🛣️ To Self-destruction, Relying on AI more than humans, living things! Having Kids is normal totally normal, i also love Kids but I'll have em when I'll be mature enough to forfeit anything for em, for-mostly my time! That's my Reason not AI or modern technology etc because they're also part of human inventions. During my own childhood i faced this, i don't want my Kids to face absency of mother & father more often than they 🤔! If um Kid myself (not fully bloom mentally, or failed to diffuse my time) how can i fortify someone else ? Nourishing is just not enough! Your Kid is also ya wealth, your property needs engrossment so ya Kids needs your enthrallment! Not foreva something needs your time when company grows ya got ease when Kids pass certain age they also enjoy solitude or more time with strangers than you, (Example Marriage, Love life, work life etc) that's a merry-go-round one. Well Simple as that money works for you, ya work foh em, humans works fohya, ya work foh em! This is how it goes, nothing to worry ❤️🧿

[@jolness1]

The unfortunate part of this is how there is an underpinning of blood and soil nativism. I am all for making it so folks can have children. I know a lot of people who aren’t having kids because of the cost. However, this seems much more like it’s about making sure the “right” people have kids

[@kool2btrue]

Bingo!

[@skylinefever]

Would you prefer Idiocracy?

[@jeannefoster5594]

@@skylinefeveryou seem to believe that dumb people can’t have smart kids, or that being smart parents guarantees having smart kids. Oh, yeah… eugenics.

[@jolness1]

@@skylinefever nah just not a fan of eugenics or anything that encroaches on people’s ability to exercise their freedom to have children or advantages one group over the other. Especially when this movement is so clearly racially driven. If you don’t see that here, I encourage you to look in to it, 🍻

[@gandalf0776]

"People should just work from home". What about cashiers and people having to do actually anything physical besides walking on a treadmill. Not everyone works in a fancy tech company.

[@crepooscul]

Yeah. I work from home and I'm an extreme rarity. And that can change at a moment's notice. Maybe something intervenes unpredictably (my job no longer does WFH, or I can't find a new job that allows it), and what then? People who live with this kind of nonsensical risk taking are awful.

[@Madamchief]

I just nurse from home 🤪

[@PhotonBeast]

Also, ironically, a lot of white collar companies are forcing a return to office anyway. The goalposts are always moving

[@kameliastoyanova7198]

And these employers want to force people back in the offices. Actions and Words are not the same for them....

[@skylinefever]

@@gandalf0776 sounds like the "just do even more school" argument while forgetting that even those jobs are limited, and that not everybody can learn the stuff.

[@bakerkawesa]

It's a vanity project by vain people. And in any case, they contribute through their business practices to the conditions that lead to low birth rates.

[@pierregibson6699]

They to smart to see their part in the problem

[@CaesarMonzaro123]

@@pierregibson6699 underrated comment

[@luddity]

@@pierregibson6699 Their wealth makes them too arrogant to accept the error in their ideology.

[@indiraiyer4438]

Excellent point!

[@aliasoma]

These people are freaking nuts. What they really mean is there are fewer and fewer people that look like me, believe like me, etc.

[@1986fritzthecat]

that couple gives some very bad vibes. Like if you gave me a suspect lineup and asked me to point out the eugenicists, I'd find it hard to point out literally anyone else

[@RussellFineArt]

More babies=more customers and money for the ultra rich. More babies means more work, more competition and more struggle for the rest of us, simply put. A few tech billionaires WILL NOT change demographics, population decline has already started and will continue until world population goes back to: 1-2 billion, as it was from WWI and WWII, as it should. Very soon, robots and AI computers will be doing the vast majority of work, so, to have more babies is to set them up for unemployment and misery, and diminishing resources.

[@itsomethingreat]

Absolutely correct. Actually, after the black death in the middle ages, workforce was so diminished that salaries increased so much… . the poorer became richer and the richer became poorer.

[@Immudzen]

@@itsomethingreat It also broke the back of nobility and dramatically increased freedoms of the remaining people. It was horrible but it led to much better lives long term.

[@madjunir]

I agree we can't go back to the days of having 5+ kids. But below replacement is very bad as well. More old people than young people. Harder to find a partner. Ghost towns, homes losing all value. Social security decrease like in Japan. Sharp economic precipice is bad overall. You're only left with an old weak population. Is grandpa going to defend against the machines taking over and submitting humanity ?

[@beaniemac]

Also means more workers for these huge corporations to exploit.

[@Immudzen]

@@madjunir People are following the incentives they have. Billionaires have made it much harder to afford to live and made it very clear they are going to keep making it worse. You need more education than ever but a lower payback on it. When it really comes down to it having kids is NOT a rational decision right now. If you want people to have kids the system needs to encourage it.

[@rodolfomontu2767]

Billionaires are the worst outcome of capitalism

[@Uns4rmLhr]

oKay, poor outcome or capitalism is worse or Rich ? Billionaires are blessing to the society and world! Amen 🧿❤🧿

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Should be illegal

[@deniseb-h8u]

@@Uns4rmLhr Al Capone, Pablo Escobar, El Chapo were also billionaires... Spare me of your bs theory.

[@Uns4rmLhr]

@@deniseb-h8u in a fruit 🧺 ifya found 2,3,4 rotten or Lousy ones you'll throw the entire basket without inspecting others ? be merciful.

[@penguin32383]

Collins blames falling fertility on "homogenization of culture". Sounds a lot like 14 words BS to me.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

They're jewish.

[@kameliastoyanova7198]

And it's her who contributes to this issue by selecting the traits for higher intelligence. The culture today is anything but homogenized.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Sounds like racism to me.

[@LisaFaiss]

@@penguin32383 “Homogenization of culture,” she said as her GOP counterparts enact laws to try to force women into their lifestyle. The couple is Jewish? Shame on them for not understanding the history of eugenics.

[@omicron2018]

What do "homogenization of culture" and "urban monoculture" mean exactly? Those phrases give off "e pluribus unum" vibes to me, but she seems to be using them as a pejorative.

[@mitchf.6990]

Puberty is gonna be a fkin nightmare for these poor kids

[@bradleychauke]

Elon saying he’s going to raise brilliant kids is funny because he’s not even in the lives of most of his kids.

[@azumishimizu1880]

They want more consumers & workers for their companies. Nothing more to it.

[@leontaecoleman3644]

money and power that’s all that matters to them.

[@sacgeekgirl]

Saying that university is damaging to fertility rates is dangerous talk

[@Arjun-m7f]

It's true

[@pierregibson6699]

Bingo they want it both ways

[@HKim0072]

It's because they need minions to do their dirty work. System gets wacked out when there isn't cheap labor.

[@apierre6]

Exactly. They want to move us to a handmaid's tale society

[@susannehuber3996]

When women are educated and don’t have to serve a man it’s dangerous for them.

[@NichoD3]

these people are so much scarier than the fake people eating the fake dogs and cats

[@Wildrover82]

Not fake people. There have actually been incidents of this.

[@madhavyu]

Exactly and the fake incidents are fake reported in fake accounts on Twitter

[@JosedeJezeus]

Yes, billionaires are a plague.

[@pierregibson6699]

@@Wildrover82 😂

[@Wildrover82]

@@pierregibson6699 I mean there have been. Giggle all you want. makes no difference to me pal...

[@katymcdonald5481]

These people are so out of touch with reality it’s bananas. Letting women work from home instead of paid maternity leave? This is only possible for office workers, what about nurses, teachers, postal workers, food service workers??? How do they work from home? Just completely unhinged.

[@DannyHuanDao]

Just one simple question: Who gonna support the kids if the parents don't have the means to support the kid(s) themselves?

[@avijit2769]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="111">1:51</a> Any rational person: my wages isn’t increasing at the rate of inflation My cost of living is high I lack savings I can’t afford a house Insurance is expensive These guys: have more kids MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

[@MandomRiRo]

What about immigrant families ??? Are Kids only for rich white peoples ????

[@ryanb5684]

So true 💀💀💀💀

[@kameliastoyanova7198]

That's where the propaganda comes in. Glorifying the sacrifice. They mentioned it. The republican (and other countries' similar political approaches). "Family values". These kind of things. But Math is math and it doesn't check out.

[@CDavis-re8di]

They want more kids on welfare so their company can get a tax break by feeding America.

[@xkaokdkl11933]

The Collins’ freak me out! Yikes

[@jessetorres8738]

Reminder to all right wingers: Elon Musk is an immigrant from South Africa.

[@bunnystrasse]

Also, NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!

[@apostateunion]

@@jessetorres8738 Doesn't bother me

[@nightprowler6336]

Nothing wrong with that

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Who received a nice sum of money from his father’s diamond mines, in which poor people and even children toiled so some Western woman could have a shiny bauble

[@rudra62]

Yes, but he's "the right kind" of immigrant from SA.

[@My2CentsYall]

12 kids quantity over quality argument.

[@dashman2062]

"If populations decline so will economic output" so in that case we would need to continue growing the human population forever. The world can only sustain so many people. The problem isn’t having children the problem is we determine economic success based on growth.

[@akiskarorimakis741]

Congrats to whom chose to show us the picture of this crazy mother with the gun in the background. These people believe in the apocalypse and they live in a constant state of fear.

[@Hussgoose]

Respect to the camera man

[@timmboz5519]

I was looking for this comment! This is wild… hanging an assault rifle on the wall in a house full of children. And you’re totally right, they live in deep fear that their wealth and privilege will be taken from them. They want to have lots of children in their own image to protect their wealth status and privilege

[@timmboz5519]

@@Hussgoosein this case they were probably instructed to make sure the gun was visible I think it’s a symbol they wanted to show as a signal to other like-minded viewers that also fear being “replaced”

[@ls.c.5682]

@@Hussgoose and the editor! They could have left that on the cutting room floor

[@Hussgoose]

@@ls.c.5682 should we cut this sir “no the world needs to see this”

[@4DCResinSmoker]

Eugenics much?

[@MrShikaga]

Well, eugenics is when you tell someone else what kind of kids they can have. I think you can decide for yourself what kids you want to have.

[@4DCResinSmoker]

@@MrShikaga Technically you do that by deciding who you marry. Unless you have money or state backing that aims to physically change society.

[@DustinOranchuk]

A lot better than dysgenics

[@Ex-expat]

For the US, start by providing paternity leave and free health care up to 20 years of age. That will support the cause

[@MrShikaga]

It won’t do anything. I lived in Denmark and the paternity and maternity leave were fantastic, but the fertility rate is still really low. The problem is cultural, not economic. To be clear, I still think the US should offer great parental leave, this is just a human quality of life requirement, I am just saying it won’t change the fertility rate.

[@nickolasbrown5928]

@@MrShikaga There's no 1 issue. Changing one thing, in this case availability of healthcare for children, will not resolve it by itself. Denmark and the various States of America are very different places, and will have different hurdles, that must each be cleared. One does not open a door with 2 locks by unlocking a single lock.

[@MrShikaga]

@@nickolasbrown5928 Good point. I am just saying that there is no evidence that more parental leave has an effect on birth rates and I wish people like the original commenter would stop stating it as fact that if we gave more birth rates would improve, it simply does not align with the facts. My personal belief, is that low birth rates are simply the natural result of late stage capitalism. For most of history, having a family was considered the ultimate status symbol. But now it is your career and your money. And humans are naturally status seeking creatures. Until society starts looking up to parents the same way we look up to the rich and successful, nothing will change. I would encourage you to look at Israel as a model we should emulate, where parents work just as much, don’t have great leave, but having a family is honoured by society. If you want to change things, this is what you need to do. And to be clear, I still think we should give great leave as well. That is just common decency. But it’s effect will be very little if at all.

[@nickolasbrown5928]

@@MrShikaga Late stage capitalism imports labor from abroad, thus driving down the cost of labor, so that laboring families cannot afford children, even those that want them. Many families in the US want children but can't afford them with current circumstances. There's also something to be said for the fact that so many sales tricks and scams and addictions to things not otherwise necessary are draining the resources of commonfolk, driving the same outcome

[@santostv.]

It will solve nothing we have it in Europe 😂 Hungary even offers tax free for life and it only barely increased trf

[@MyLifeOfficial]

Rich people call it "pronatalism" Everyone else calls it "having more babies"

[@gerdinkmann8826]

“Venture Capitalists have a long term perspective, they’re looking 50 years ahead” …. Lady, what world are you living in?😂😂😂

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

They only care about the next quarter earnings

[@cai0]

I'm learning more in the comments section than in the video itselft. Well done, non-rich lucid people.

[@FoLkUsKiev]

The problem is not that the people don't want to have kids. People can't afford to have them. They are fighting the windmills here

[@HoustonKhanyile]

this is true for many but there is also a disturbing culture that is being perpetrated by radical leftist that children are a drag and not important. which is dangerous.

[@jasoncoreas9432]

If you want kids, you’ll figure out how to make it work.

[@MyVlogTubes]

Tell that to poor people in poor countries that havrle 7 or more

[@jasoncoreas9432]

@@MyVlogTubesexactly. If they can make it work, so can people in developed countries.

[@mr.priman]

@@jasoncoreas9432let me guess, you don’t have kids😂

[@Orbt_]

Child free is fantastic! No one is obligated to have babies for vultures.

[@brownm279]

This is what the sequel to Idiocracy would look like. All the smart having babies yielding a different, yet equally dysfunctional population.

[@JM-ql7mh]

That first guy - betcha if he had to carry and deliver children he'd tap out at 2.

[@Mimicry161]

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[@LogarAcc]

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[@DearProfessorRF]

To keep capitalism alive, why else? More consumers are needed to keep the ball rolling while ravaging the world.

[@sumanthasaha7207]

What about a fresh grad with a huge debt to pay off and working on an average wage. This cycle of more demand more production requires an assurance of higher disposable income which I think a majority of people can't even dream of.

[@lukaaso9867]

More children, more production, more consumption, more, more...

[@toldt]

The Matrix

[@twilightknight2333]

reproduction is an essential part of survival, fool. Every successful living organism reproduces, that is the purpose of life, sex, and evolution.

[@stefanisilva2493]

​​@@twilightknight2333Resources is another. In all nature, when organisms overreproduce in a given ecossistem they activate natural "negative feedbacks" and reduce population back to balanced proportions.

[@WendyFoster-b9n]

Wouldn't providing higher minimum wage, affordable healthcare and childcare be a better way to raise birth rates AND improve outcomes for those children?

[@richard46966]

The concept of an embryo having an IQ is theoretical and would be based on genetic potential rather than actual cognitive performance

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Imaybe her embryo is so advanced, it already knew how to fill in the bubble after each question on the IQ test😂

[@Whitify]

She is running in Pennsylvania again incumbent democrat Joseph Webster. Just donated to him to keep these weirdos as far away from public office as possible.

[@kameliastoyanova7198]

If the election system in the US was like some others in the world the republicans won't see the White House from the inside (or maybe only on TV).

[@Nicolas-uu3jr]

because they have money...

[@Nicolas-uu3jr]

@@mr.unknownindian1764 India huh...☺️, what is your reply like a gag?, it's just that it's easier to have kids when you're rich, you get to spend money thinking that you'll do a good job, as opposed to not having that option, in both cases you end up doing a terrible job, but psychologically you get to "feel" better😂, India!😂😂, the people factory!🤣🤣🤣😂

[@Kelfuma]

Better living and working conditions generally makes people more likely to want to have kids.

[@dwzm]

Hear hear!

[@wilfreddale764]

I feel like I’m being gaslighted. Maybe if the 0.01% isn’t hoarding all the wealth then people can afford to have kids.

[@dwzm]

Aye

[@EmmaKristiana]

I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him, $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.

[@EmmaKristiana]

Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!

[@JimHoke-n3i]

Wow that's huge, how do you make that much monthly?

[@JimHoke-n3i]

I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

[@EmmaKristiana]

It's Ms. Susan Jane Christy doing, she's changed my life.

[@EmmaKristiana]

I started pretty low, though, $5000 thereabouts. The return came massive. Joey is in school doing well, telling me of new friends he's meeting in school. Thank you Susan Christy, you're a miracle.

[@pierregibson6699]

My Mother taught me Young “have as many as YOU can afford”….. I have one ☝🏾 child who is now 20 and she doesn’t want kids either

[@sanjogkarki]

They can raise as many kid as they want money is no problem. For Normal people having even 2 is more than difficult. Money matters.

[@kyliefire5008]

Eugenics lol. They should say what they mean. They'll never win this though, it's too late.

[@ddlang2514]

Imagine their 99th percentile child grows up to end humanity.

[@lauriesica]

One solution is that Motherhood should be a high paying career.

[@Devi-pg4rj]

💯 No more unpaid domestic labor and unpaid emotional labor along with putting so much physical, mental and financial stress on a woman's body.

[@danieljensen329]

I wonder if they also selected their embryos for nose size. Listening to the Collins's and their Silicon Valley backers makes me think the ideal world for these people was 1930s Germany. Terrifying.

[@bscu0493]

Wow, it’s the zombie revenge of the nerds… look at that wacko multitasking on the treadmill with a M16 hanging on the wall behind her 😂….

[@jonaspereira007]

I am a nerd and I feel obliged to agree with you...just don't put us all in the same basket 😂

[@pcrizz]

Oh come on now! That looks more in the M4 family.

[@teresamagnusson]

Malcolm and Simone are so weird. They seem like siblings.

[@cai0]

​@@teresamagnusson maybe they are, trying to keep the descendant line "clean".

[@teresamagnusson]

​@@cai0I wouldn't be surprised.

[@FireEverLiving]

That is the dorkiest-looking couple I've ever seen.

[@emiliooos13]

Its almost as if structuring our entire system on continuous/unlimited growth is unsustainable...

[@drillbitgd7763]

Hey look, more rich people out of touch with reality.

[@manubhatt3]

The reason why fertility rates are down everywhere is because it has become too expensive to raise kids for even a minimum decent life. The reason for that is education is costly and not publicly financed. But one other reason is also that the salaries for common jobs aren't growing at the pace of inflation, and at the same time workers are being overworked than normal hours. I suspect the lack of good labour laws(which provide a level playing field between employer and employees) is responsible for this. The wealth is getting transferred from the middle class to the rich company/business owners. Labour is getting exploited. When common life gets so difficult/competitive and full of struggle, it's no wonder people don't want to raise kids.

[@Waltaere]

Easier for them to say, they’re 🤑

[@K4R3N]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="236">3:56</a> "Brave New World" Aldous Huxley predicted this. Great book

[@rom1783-c1y]

The economy was made to serve the people. If said economy becomes an inconvenience or forces people to have more children while recieving smaller paychecks (thus making their lives harder) the economy should be changed, not fertility rates.

[@mabremuzikazadusu2]

Sorry, these people just don't look trustworthy to me.

[@CDavis-re8di]

Are you in the inner circle?