WTF is Happening on Instagram? AI ART & CARA

[@tristan_the_cyborg_wolf695]

I've realized that A.I "art" will be most likely redundant in the future because since lots of people on the internet are too lazy to learn a skill like drawing (as evident by how many people in these comment sections and social media circles are defending A.I art because it "democraticizes" art), there will be too much supply and not enough demand for it, devaluing itself exponentially, while non-A.I artists will possibly be even more prestigious because the mass general population is rejecting A.I art (as well as major animation studios such as Sony Imageworks and the Japanese anime industry). Plus, after the A.I "artists" get their quick dopamine hit after spewing out prompts and images relentlessly or after a period of time, they will eventually burn out (like real artists do, only WAYYY faster because unlike the hours and hours of time non-A.I art usually takes, it only takes 4-5 seconds for AGI). After their burnout, they will realize that it's not quite the same as painting or doing their own art without prompts on papers and art tablets and feel unfulfilled in such a shallow venture and give up. They may have short-term success, but ultimately in the long term, they will lose to real human creativity and craftsmanship. They can cope all they want but they will never be the same as a real artist (such as a painter, animator, illustrator, etc.) if they continue to be this way and refuse to put effort into learning the craft. Call me elitist but Visual art is a skill that has held some of the greatest prestige in the world throughout centuries, and we are not obligated to share it with disrespectful, lazy, and ignorant entitled people like a mother forces their child to share a toy. They should just save themselves the embarassment and just use it to humor themselves and friends, not as a career path. If you don't have skill, you are owed nothing.

[@ProdByGhost]

Such a small minded take wat is "drawing" wasint the only thing u NEED TO LEARN.. thats just one skill... new skills are being developed an insted of learning to draw ur gnna be doing more to the art u make with ai. Even more so then just still images.. creativity/talent arent related . U can have talent an be useless not creative an lazy. Ai art has a place ai entertainment has a place. human hart has a place.. u cant go into battle against the ai future.. its litterly part of our human evoloution so either u play w the new toys or get stuck in the past . An stay behind the pack. As the world moves forward

[@tristan_the_cyborg_wolf695]

@@ProdByGhost You can try to insult me all you want but A.I artists will just inevitably shoot themselves in the foot and be left in the dust of their own volition. If you are an A.I artist you will never be as valuable/irreplaceable as a human painter/draftsman, so stop pretending like you're not gonna have the same respect as a McDonald's employee in the future, cuz ya will. Everyone has an imagination, but fewer people can relay their daydreams and inner worlds onto a canvas or piece of paper using pencils, paintbrushes, with their own hands. And that fact is why as more and more get lazy, the more prestigious human art will be. So I guess, in a way, you A.I artists are gonna get stuck behind when you are swiftly replaced by an A.I because guess what: Even a greedy CEO OR EVEN ANOTHER A.I CAN TAKE YOUR PLACE *BECAUSE* A.I ART IS EASIER THAN REAL ART AND NOW EVERYONE CAN USE IT (Until it isn't because why would they let the public use it for free for long when they want money? They aren't a charity, so they are going to charge absurd rates for it and soom it'll be EVEN MORE risky to be an A.I artist rather than a real one since, ironically, there will be more and more people using the argument "Why would I pay you to generate a painting for me when I can just do it myself?" And what would you say to that?) So I suggest you make a decision to do something else other than A.I art or you will be the one left in the dust.

[@ProdByGhost]

@@tristan_the_cyborg_wolf695 i aint reading all that shit for one u calling me a AI artist when ive took it upon myself at age 16-17 to learn how to create music? since 2011 i learned how to make beats. ive been creating more so then you ever will be able to by pure fact ive always been creating from the ether from my imagination since the start of my journey..u on the otherhand as a "artist" NEED reference to create. so your basically a copy paste machine as AI. the only time you are able to create out of your mind as a aartist and not making abstract bs is when youve looked at so much refrence and done so much studys of others art that its EMBEDDED into your brain hmm almost like AI. so for one theirs a place for everything. an someone who has been creating for 10-11 years. welcome to your new reality. .

[@3polygons]

​@@ProdByGhost Nope... a true artist, a veteran, does not need a reference. This is a misunderstanding from those who don't know the craft (no offense). Early art students need references. AI instead, ALWAYS need to base on reference material, as it can only mix and predict from scrapped data. Someone mentioned AGI, we have not got to AGI, _not even close!_ and I - like many- strongly doubt AGI will ever be achievable, if the concept of what it is, a self aware conscience, is not changed by convenience. Without self awareness, art, by definition, cannot be created, full stop. One of the reasons why in court is often denied the right for copyright over AI generated art (no actual human in the full process). A truly experienced artist knows the anatomy rules (btw, something that AI does not comprehend, it just can't) , as well as perspective, composition, color theory, lighting, enough to fully construct from zero any actual very realistic scene. I know this pretty well, as this is my everyday job. Music (as much as I admire people dedicated to it) and visual art share practically nothing. They are very different disciplines. And both need immense skill (years of very hard training) if we are talking about really mastering a profile. Music, visual art, writing, and many regular jobs are under the same threat with "AI" (LLMs, eally). But as usual, people only truly react when they think it will affect them. And by then, it is often too late. I am old enough to realize how many times this cycle repeats itself in history.

[@ZunkoZeek22]

i agree with you

[@ChantelleArts]

I've seen a lot of people straight up delete their Instagram too which is pretty scary! just hoping AI will become regulated some point soon ❤

[@JhoferGamer]

It's a god to the AI programmers and owners. They will do anything they can to make AGI manifest.

[@MangaSamte]

So true, this might be possible for artists who already have an established loyal following but not for those like us who are still growing a following. And the worst thing is that I've seen a lot of artists who are more or less in my shoes jumping the gun because these big artists are doing it. I hope they don't regret it.

[@thelingeringartist]

I ended up being one of those artists. I only posted once a year anyway, and I really disliked how Instagram was laid out as a whole.

[@iAmNothingness]

Pictures are still stored in their data bank. The warning was there but small. That this will come to instagram.

[@crystaleldridge3988]

@@MangaSamte Agree 100%. I had no traction on Insta and even less on Cara. It seems like basically just a portfolio site. 'm not interested in deleting my Insta account. I think there are a lot more opportunities for reach and just other interesting things that aren't art related.

[@g405t]

damn....that's why I was always hesitant to post on IG.

[@artbyinky]

I’m glad I haven’t used it in months, I needed a break from socials. While I want to keep my name, I’m debating on deleted the posts on there. But I feel it’s too late, their stuff probably already learned from us.

[@pasteeli]

One good thing about Cara I noticed were the multiple cool job listings and opportunities for artists from studios and other artists. I haven't applied for any of them as I'm already working full time at the moment but if that works properly, seems like a great opportunity for artists to find some cool work. Job varied from comics to webtoon to gaming art and development and more so if anyone tries these out and gets a great gig do tell how it goes!

[@3polygons]

Good to know! Networking is key.

[@theshyarcher9077]

I'm so hesitant to leave insta because it's the only platform I do decently but I strongly hate AI :(

[@MangaSamte]

Please don't delete your account because your peers or bigger artists are also doing it. Even if you don't post anymore, I'd ask you to keep your account.

[@flockaflower]

@@MangaSamtewhy? I want to delete mine as well

[@MangaSamte]

@@flockaflower mostly because of the reasons Michelle stated why she isn't deleting her account. But if Instagram isn't your bread and butter than be my guest. I've also more or less stopped posting there for over a year now but I do update via my stories. I've decided to focus more on KZbin as platform to grow my tribe but I've been sharing links to my videos to Instagram. The gist of the matter is that whether we want it or not the general public is still using it and we can still use the platform to drive users to other platforms/online stores, etc.

[@Code_art_o.o-0]

I post my art on Instagram but I think I will use both apps

[@itreallybelikethatdoe829]

Yea same

[@SigmaFroid]

Me too

[@hollyreid3852]

I never had a huge following on Facebook or Instagram, so I have no issues kind of starting over. I am still not getting many views on Cara, but at least I'm being inspired to do more art. I'm not deleting my FB or Insta since the damage is probably already done. But when I finish a piece and post it to Cara, I'll be posting a scribbled out sketch version of it on Fb and Insta.... I also will be posting occasional Zuckerberg M-Preg drawings. Those are what Meta can have from me. 😂

[@cinderblockstudios]

At this point Cara is now my twitter replacement, rather than my instgram shift. IG is still the #1 place people are approaching artist for business inquiaries. So to abandon it just doesn't make sense IMHO.

[@darkone2114]

I am going to join Cara bc it's sounds safe. So i am going to give it a try.

[@low-key-tony]

It’s safe, especially since nsfw or ai isn’t allowed there

[@BiBiren]

Its great that Cara makes the safe spot for artists but my fears are still there. Time will tell when Cara will be infested with AI art, bots and art thieves, the same problem Instagram and DeviantArt has.

[@art4anj]

I feel the same way of having the feeling of "moved on" from my previous works. I also have the tendency to explore A LOT so my art journey feels more fluid and unpredictable. 😌 I do plan to UTILIZE the GLAZE feature from this moment forward ❤

[@arkanimation9833]

This is overlooking the fact that this has all the perks of metas stuff and LinkedIn. I think this is overlooking ai is training on not just our art but our image. Imagine the creeps creating problems for us by making us say what we don’t and do what we wouldn’t. Meta is being very problematic and it’s unfortunate it’s not that big of a deal to bigger artists… well til it’s too late I guess..

[@ashmitanandy]

the camera being slightly crooked is really bothering my ocd ass brain I'm so sorry! 😭😭

[@pyeitme508]

Neat video 😎

[@fkdump]

I don't even trust the opt-out option. But I think it's inevitable, if they don't train images in the US they train images in some other countries, there are many great artists world wide and their countries may not have options to prevent their works being used for training.

[@reibubbles2505]

Nah, I'm deleting and leaving. The internet is so vast, I'll have no problem finding other platform.

[@DrSoapp]

I'm not going to leave instagram because parting from my validation is just a reality I cannot compute

[@smeeghead]

this is the REALEST comment I've ever seen in my life

[@Rayslasagne]

I'm so tired of this. It's honestly been killing my motivation to work on my own art, instagram used to really motivate me to make art and I improved so much, until the algorithm killed my account and (as much as I try to avoid looking at numbers) it made me stop wanting to post at all. Then all this AI stuff, I tried to opt out and it literally wouldn't accept my request, I know other social media sites do the same but it really makes me uncomfortable about posting ANYTHING on there... like not even art at this point, I can't even post a photo of my dog on my PRIVATE!! account without it getting scraped to train their AI? Just because it's there it doesn't mean it's free and up for grabs

[@ootzz]

Keep in mind people can still screen shot your work and run it through AI.

[@nsuarez]

I will stop posting on Instagram.

[@KintaroTakanori]

your art has already been scraped! dont kid yourself. uploading to the internet... its already too late. nothing prevents me to write a script and scape any profile on cara to train a model. absolutely nothing. people try to band aid and move to the next platform. its too late for that. the internet is open and anyone who can see the pixels can copy itor in this case train models with it.

[@AmberyTear]

Same thing that's happening with Adobe...

[@RodneyKing-kz3ym]

I respect your views, but I will make no sacrifices and no compromises 😤. The suits know they are unlikely to have to fear a unified front or response pushing back against them. They realize that they’ll maintain most of their traffic, because people are too attached to their product. They wouldn’t do this so boldly corporation to corporation, but it’s done to the “little guys” without much consideration. I wonder why? 🤔 I will not bend a knee to a suit. Myself and others will find a way. They can get bent. Simple as that. 😁👍

[@rocolas]

Why don’t you just move to Webtoon?

[@MarcinDiering]

People join fb and instagram and agree to give them royalty-free license to posted content and it's fine but when they want to use it for AI it is not. I truly don't believe in any protest or whatever. It's just an illusion of control. I really understand what is this all about but I think we are sadly trapped. If you won't share it then people who don't care about this will share your art somewhere and it's done. If you won't let them share then how will you promote? Will you show yourself without art in posts? So AI can use your face to train? Kinda insane. And what will you do as an illustrator or graphic designer when someone will come to you and ask to do things with AI because it is faster/better/cheaper? Will you really refuse to earn when at the same time you don't have clients for your art? I already experienced this. People are getting aware of it. This will get more popular. Maybe it will just take us to a place where art is only a form of relax and not a business. This is sick but I really don't belive this will stop.

[@Tyshark]

The disabled my AI account today.

[@keremgo3d]

Phuk Ai

[@JamieBaudo]

Not trying to be rude but are you getting paid in some way to promote this? So many creators have come out in the past few days and are saying this same stuff and promoting this new website which doesn't promise that your work will be protected in the future. Your link says not sponsored but this is seeming pretty fishy. I'm hoping this isn't just a honeypot for more art to be fed into these image generators after artists have been avoiding posting online.

[@silvernskye5132]

I've looked into it and it seems like a real thing I think so many are promoting it bc several big artists have moved to it, the anti-AI viewpoint of the site and one of the owners is a fairly big photographer Don't know if it's going to be a long lasting thing though. They seem a bit too small for the flood of new users and they seem to be struggling with costs since it dotation only atm

[@JamieBaudo]

@@silvernskye5132 Yeah bandwidth cost is probably going to screw them over at some point. There's usually a cycle of good intentions, mounting costs, hosting advertisements and then being bought by a large company. Hopefully that doesn't happen here.

[@mewTripled]

I wish I got paid! But no, I'm not getting paid for this. While it might come off "promotey" I'm just moreso sharing my POV of the situation since it's a hot topic in the art community and I personally am trying to be better at KZbin which means catching onto discussing topics while they're still fresh. Again, I personally don't have plans to migrate to this App as my MAIN platform for now, but I've already done research regarding Glaze in my previous AI videos which is the one reason why this kind of stood out to me. If anything the creator of the app is someone I've followed the journey of some time who is pretty anti AI and anti art theft as she documented her journey suing someone who infringed on her copyrighted work. But again, nothing is 100% ever safe IMO but I'm just here saying my thoughts on what I would do personally do for this instance in time!

[@JamieBaudo]

@mewTripled awesome thank you for the thoughtful reply and clearing that up. Im always weary of apps or companies that people label as a savior for their dilemma (not saying thats you saying that, ive just seem some people acting like that). Yeah i totally understand speaking on hot topics. I did the same for when AI was first popular and thats my best performing video. Thanks, all the best to you :)

[@deadby15]

Gen Zs are so anti-business. 😓

[@tea98988]

Not caring about your “old art”? Oh wait, it’s computer generated art. No wonder you don’t care as much. I can not say that about my hand-painted original art - the old fashioned way.

[@mewTripled]

I'm happy to hear you have much pride in your hand-painted original art. It's quite a bold statement of you to assume all my past art is "computer generated." 🤨 You clearly are unfamiliar with my history in creating art, and even my digital work is not automatically created by a computer. My reasons for not caring about my art is not that black and white. Like I said, I appreciate the fond memories, but I don't find purpose in latching onto the past and find more enjoyment in looking forward to new creations I can make. Regardless, I hope your narrow perspective will widen up, and I wish you the best with your art career / hobby.

[@lunayen]

Digital art isn't "computer generated." You do most of the work to create the art.

[@seanjones9902]

Ahh who cares about AI art??!! I want to know what you think about the TourBox I see you're using LOL😂

[@aikaterinikera4095]

I just deleted everything from my insta today, I was already fed up with the app because of the constant changes and the need to keep posting with the dreams of becoming big, the fact that hashtags didnt work, I've seen friends who are extremely good artists getting screwd over by this. But the recent invasion of my and so many others privacy was what broke the camels back for me. I am not any huge artist or anything, but I want to share my art online, but I cant do that on such a platform, I am no gonna join the Care bandwagon because I want to see other social media options and wait for Cara to grow for a year before moving there.

[@jaxkk1119]

I am not sure if it works, since they probably already used it

[@Audiotechnica-tj3nr]

you know deleting it doesnt delete it from their servers right? and posting it on cara just makes one big ol data base of verified real human art, which is perfect for datascraping for ai

[@Zephirite.]

@@Audiotechnica-tj3nr Sounds like Cara partnered with Glaze, so all the art on there is unable to be used for training AI.

[@bakawaki]

It's a shame that creatives helped build these companies, and companies are so glad to throw creatives into the grinder at the first sign of more profit. A platform that was made by artists for artists that can replace deviantart and artstation has been long overdue.

[@ConcavePgons]

Newgrounds?

[@3polygons]

​@@ConcavePgons Good point, but maybe a bit too niche... Indeed, both DeviantArt and ArtStation suffer from a similar problem. Instagram has (had?) the tremendous advantage of being fully mainstream. Super massive traffic (well handled some years ago, very negative algorithm changes lately), easy contact with average Janes and Joes, be it as clients or simple fans/followers of your artwork. Artists focused sites usually do not count on this important advantage, which is crucial. If Cara finds a way to also attract the mainstream, it would be an absolute no-brainer, a win-win. *IMO, it already is, if only as a fight against AI* . Newgrounds was not 'artist focused', but it was not really fully mainstream, IMO. Not a huge social media like Instagram, Facebook, etc. Even Tumblr had more variety in the audience than all of these, and I never considered it a fully successful platform, but was still on another league. ArtStation had the title of THE site for triple A artists (so many left it, pissed off due to AI), the best of the best in the industry. But the younger ones might not remember that this crown has been swapped pretty often. Sites like Polycount, CG Chat or CG Talk covered that function before. And like of those, AS, DeviantArt and Instagram can (and probably will) be replaced.

[@retrojoyz]

Newgrouds has been around for decades, and artfol (who is pretty much Cara but from barely a few years before) has been abandoned after the hype. Many other artist places get thrown out and artists go back to social media. I honestly don't expect Cara to work out, will most likely die after a month or two unfortunately.

[@starry-p]

All they care about is money and what’s the fastest way to make it.

[@starry-p]

@@retrojoyzI would say make a Newgrounds too. It has room for new hood artists and it doesn’t tolerate a/i arts

[@Fakisio]

I'll be opening a shop with my prints, stickers and in the future clothes and more, but since i haven't been ever posting my art much i'm pretty much starting from nothing. I'm excited to see where cara goes, it seems like the kinda platform that allows smaller artists to get exposure they deserve, unlike ig, especially after removing sorting by newest hashtags and all that. Regardless, i'll stick to both just to maximize my chances, i'm putting everything in my life to do this and pursuing this full time, i felt hopeless last year but cara made me hopeful again :D

[@Slumberprince]

Talked with zemotion owner, she said they wanted to have a spot light function for indie and emerging artists really a reputable person who care about her community

[@mewTripled]

Good luck with your shop! I think it would be awesome if Cara could thrive, but ultimately whatever concoction of social media apps for artists works, works!

[@AnabelReinaArt]

The great thing about Cara is precisely that, the lack of a business-oriented model. Back in the Deviantart era, most users were artists, students or hobbyists who just enjoyed art and the communication was relatively healthy and active. There is a huge difference with IG is that in Cara you have the option of being a professional or a hobbyist, while in IG you have almost forced to become a 'business'(algorithms, hashtags, times to post and all the nightmare), which has rotten our minds and even some careers. Personally what I like about Cara the most is that is like to be in a mix of Deviantart and Artstation, with the best of both worlds, and have the opportunity to make friends, know job opportunities and even make contacts. And at the end of the day, in this profession, contacts is what gets you far in your career. Of course, anyone who wants to be a business is free to continue the model of IG, but I don't want to spend my life depending on sticker sheets or washi tapes because there are more professions out there, and thanks the sky Cara is the best potential answer I have seen in years.

[@HyperVillainy]

I came to the comments to say pretty much exactly what you were going to say haha! I completely agree - it’s nice to have a space for artists again after all of this time! One thing that I want to add: in the past, most (if not all) art careers were built by networking with other artists, and the phenomenon of artists creating a sustainable income through direct sales and advertising revenue is pretty new. No shade on it, since it’s awesome that artists have many more opportunities to pursue their art! But I think it’s kind of obscured our thought process on how to generate income from our art. We don’t have to souls our souls to social media and KZbin if we don’t want to! Back in the days before internet (and in the early days when craft-specific message boards existed) other artists would connect with each other and build friendships and/or strong working relationships - and when someone had the opportunity to pass a job along (whether a direct hire, a project, or maybe a star artist getting asked by a gallery if they had any friends) they would send it over. We would build contacts over time and build our portfolios until we had enough projects/clients/customers to make our income. It’s not as glamorous, but it’s definitely still viable!

[@AnabelReinaArt]

​@@HyperVillainy Completely agree! Animation, comic and videogames still works through networking, that I can confirm. Personally I think the problem came when agencies started picking illustrators according to the numbers of followers in Instagram(and from that to all the indies online shops, and everyone knows the rest). That's the only thing everyone knows because of all the reasons you mentioned, and precisely what I'm looking forward to 'heal' with Cara. For the moment there are tons of discussion about different topics, something that not even Threads could make at the moment. And there are not businesses, only professionals. Which may sound strange but the way to communicate in Cara is way more personal. You're talking with the professional, not with the business. They won't try to sell you anything, they just talk about their experiences, their goals, etc. which is something really useful if you're starting.

[@_aiborie]

I also signed up for a Cara account and joined their Discord. Pleased to know they've recently reached 500k users. Says a lot on how fed up artists are with these large platforms

[@snowstorm7180]

Don't other people who aren't artists also realize that this is not just about art? But anyway

[@3polygons]

They are not yet affected, or.. they don't feel they are... yet. But I am in many programmers forums and chats (I also code, but art is my main thing) and some are super worried about t he future. Most coding influencers are trying to fight that pessimism. Some well informed musicians have that fear too, and definitely a lot of writers. Many other jobs, more "mainstream", will be affected. I am not pessimistic, though. But it definitely will make our life harder, as artists.

[@blktauna]

oh yes. Many of us do. This is whay any personal info I put out is false and anything I post is done knowing it will be used and I will not gain anything from it. I used this approach from before Facebook even existed. Sadly many people have their heds up their collective bottoms

[@este_marco]

"have my art glazed over" is such a wild sentence 😭

[@marylandj3228]

True, if Glaze protects it, then I'm all in

[@thatstockin]

I’m glazing my art rn, thanks for the reminder (this is a normal sentence)

[@mosshivenetwork117]

only gooners would think that's a wild sentence.

[@artbyinky]

Night shading too!

[@este_marco]

@@mosshivenetwork117 didn't have to point us out like that... 😔

[@rebekahholladay2020]

Artists are already underpaid and now it's legal to steal their work for free. Artists: your work is not worthless! Non-artists: Please continue to support artists instead of these big companies that are stealing from them.

[@3up3rn0va]

Maybe we should all post bad art so the ai is trained in a wrong way lol. I haven’t used instagram that much ever since they introduced Reels. Man, I don’t even see my friends photos anymore! Thanks Meta

[@Chappyowo]

Im gonna post on instagram on low quality and glazed/nightshaded so the AI gets fucked up data >:3

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

the art of war

[@Temu-u3e]

We should start doing that to be honest. Not just glazed over, but we could make accounts with just dogshit art with a bunch of noise, fucked up perspective anatomy and exposure and just fill the app with it. Poorly photoshopped pictures of deformed people, that sort of stuff. We're a pretty big community, if you take your art and just fuck it up before throwing it into instagram it doesn't take much at until it does *something*

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

@@Temu-u3e Can even use ai/bot accounts to do it lol, but yeah modern issues need modern solutions, people against corpos now

[@Temu-u3e]

@@justinelizondo8942 it's okay the mood can't be brought down any lower at this point Thank you for being honest though

[@justinelizondo8942]

@@Temu-u3e While the situation seems grim I don't think it's is as bad as you might think. AI and robotics are improving rapidly and in a couple years most jobs might be able to be done by AI and robots, as a species we should seek to prepare for a world where humans are not required to work. And humans will always make art whether AI can do it better or not, just because robots can make pots doesn't mean humans don't do pottery nowadays. Currently the issue is that the AI was trained unethically and poses a threat to peoples jobs, but in the future the job thing might not matter and while the unethical training is unfortunate it already happened so moving on is probably the best decision to make. AI is a tool and as any tool it's neutral, the way you utilize it is what is good or bad. Anyway the point in trying to make is that while you can't do anything to prevent AI from developing you can prepare yourself for a world with AI, and be aware that humans will always make art one way or another. What we are currently going through is a big shift in human history which will change a lot of things. While we can't predict the future we can do our best, and that's what matters most.

[@monn-tan]

When Twitter was in a meltdown, people were migrating towards places like Misskey, Aethy, and Matsodon. Then people return back to twitter because there isn't enough traffic on those sites. Then the cycle is happening again and now people are moving again to another site. To me, its tiring. All support to CARA in fighting off unethical AI. Its just for me, I want to see the platform grow first.

[@monn-tan]

@@AG-up7kx The platform is still going to grow regardless of people's opinions about it. Cara already has a strong community at the beta stage. But its not enough to convince me yet. All I'm saying is that I rather wait and observe how the site is. And if I'm convinced, then I will join. I rather use my own judgement than follow the hype of the crowd.

[@jaxkk1119]

twitter too? damn..

[@rematii1195]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@AG-up7kx you can't change people's attitudes in how they view the platform. Its fine that people are careful about it. Also, Cara has YET to have a structured rule on the subject of nsfw. There's not even a proper filter system too. If anything, Cara has a LONG way to go to if they want to make a site "for artist, by artist."

[@piusdoe8984]

I doubt anyone thinks its instagram killer. But it being new artstation would be great. Since artstation doesnt give a sht about artists, only about money.

[@DartilyArtStudio]

If I remember correctly the ArtStation drama is what prompted the development of CARA

[@ootzz]

Artists don't care about artists and only care about money.

[@aaduexe]

​@@ootzz no one cares about anyone! People move when the bloodbath is in their house

[@ootzz]

@@aaduexe A blood bath is a SUPER far stretch

[@anunnacy]

5:08 @mewTripled A very important differentiation here: "Glazed" images do not in any way result in AI's creating f'd up results! What you are talking about here is "Nightshade"! "Glaze": Simply makes images harder to read for AI. "Nightshade": Poisons AI, so that it will interpret images in a wrong way (seeing a hat instead of a rabbit for example). In the near future they want to combine both into one. For now you can use Glaze and optionally Nightshade as a second step.

[@PalomaMcClain]

Loving Cara so far! Also small correction that Glaze isn’t a company, but a research project led by a team at the University of Chicago :) No profit involved

[@bingo699]

this sucks I fucking hate ai art with a burning passion

[@ZephrusPrime]

I think the situation with Adobe is even much more troubling. Now they can scrape anything you do with any Adobe product. Photoshop is an industry standard in which now they are using our art to train their AI. This breaks copyright and any NDA's.

[@Takanosenpai]

What's worse, people from LATAM are fcked up with this. Why? Because they don't have any options available for artists to say "I don't want this or that" on the matter of AI.

[@danielaabader7815]

latam artist present here jeje, yeah you're absolutely right.

[@klai2005]

tbh, I feel like a lab rat. it's like "your art is going to be used, you have nowhere to run. if you don't want that, delete your account."

[@thecoloringbee5675]

I tried to opt out. Looked it up Instagram doesn't let Americans op out.

[@TheArtofKAS]

I knew it was bad but man thank you for the perspective! It's already difficult to detach yourself and then move to any new thing, especially a new art style. I just downloaded Cara and want to check it out but I still feel like it's backed into a specific art corner ( like be what artstation used to be to an extent). I'm excited to see with it offers and though👏🏿

[@MangaSamte]

From what I've read from other artists who are using it and from the owners themselves, it is basically trying to mimic artstation and deviant art before it got infested by A/I.

[@TheArtofKAS]

@@MangaSamte And that right there is a good selling point to me as well. I remember last year when I first made my art station account and I was actually excited to put some artwork on there and then they said yes to the ai 🫠

[@piusdoe8984]

Being artstation replacement is great though 😂 why downplay that. Besides artists not being on Instagram wont kill it. It wasn't for us in the first place. But if recruiters use it than it's great

[@looselygaming6130]

well it is bcause the terrible truth is artist are, the a.i already has everying and there's already billions of it out there, even iff it get banned in the west the damage is done and people in the east that don't give a damn about western law will still use the technology.

[@TheArtofKAS]

@@piusdoe8984 I agree. And I am definitely hoping that is it going to be the case at least partially in the future🤞

[@MangaSamte]

Thanks for your input, Michelle! I've also more or less stopped using Instagram for more than a year now and have decided to focus on KZbin instead for building a tribe. It feels more organic and I've been enjoying making videos so far. I'm also gonna hold off on using Cara for now mainly because I don't wanna be stretched too thin and the app is very unstable right now so my 1st impressions wouldn't be great and I would end up not using it. So I'll maybe look into it once it gets a bit more stable.

[@mewTripled]

Thanks! I totally agree. Social media app exhaustion is real. I also can only focus on so many platforms but I'm also on board with focusing more on KZbin if anything! I think it's valid to choose to join an app once the stability has been more established. Good luck with your channel!

[@alex.garrysovich]

It's like someone created a huge mixing hat, throwing your and other people's work into it. Sht in this hat, this is good sabotage, I am a musician, but I support this method. 😉

[@itsljarts0718]

I just joined Cara and it's actually fun! But it's more of a DeviantArt + ArtStation + Twitter hybrid rather than a replacement for Instagram. I do prefer Cara than ArtStation tho and I hope it gets better with updates.

[@kcmoon2214]

I haven't posted anything in several months 😖(still can't believe I still have over 100 followers still 😅). Social media has always been exhausting and stressful for me. 😑 And unfortunately at this time and even back than it's pretty much mandatory to have one if you want to be an artist of any kind. 😣 So I'll still be using Instagram and wait out for Cara app. Cause there's still a chance it might not work out in the long run. 😑

[@gingeralice3858]

I don't believe any website or tool will ever sustainably defend against AI. I've just accepted it at this point. Whenever I see a hyper realistic rendered image or a detailed character design, I immediately zoom in and look for inconsistencies. Most of the time, I find them. I also find images that have clear traces of AI generation but that have been minimally edited to make it less apparent. There's just no escape now. I even see AI generated commercials on TV.

[@ackerwoman16]

Eww What commercial?

[@silverhawk2079]

Keeping your art on Instagram or Facebook is giving your consent. The only way to opt out is to not participate. Never shake hands with the firing squad!

[@kka337]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Queen

[@desenhistaanonimo3997]

Thats why im on newgrounds

[@alskarmode]

New grounds is still around? That's a throwback to the early 2000s lol

[@smeeghead]

yeah this is what I was thinking. im over there too but I understand why people wont go there because it's got like an edgy reputation.

[@taylorslade8080]

Same here, I was putting my artwork on every site possible, including Newgrounds and Instagram. Now I’m just going to stick to Newgrounds because of this.

[@kdb8157]

@@alskarmode newgrounds has been super relevant lately with the popular browsing game Friday night funkin

[@low-key-tony]

Cara is so damn cool. If you’re a *massive* artist who can get an easy following from the jump. It really is a struggle to gain a following with them around. I want the app to succeed, I really do but I wish it would promote smaller accounts too since it’s whole thing is artists helping artists.

[@auliamate]

excellent video, but a note is glaze doesn't just put an overlay on your art, it alters the actual image data within it, so while it appears as normal to us humans, to an AI, that alteration utterly wrecks it, rendering it unusable as training data!

[@Shaheer7X]

Is the glaze feature on Cara automatic? Or do we have to enable it somehow?

[@ZacharyNoah]

I won’t be leaving Instagram anytime soon, either. Whenever I do my digital hand-drawn fan art, I always make sure to sign my name on them, just to be on the safe side. It’s not much, but it’s all I can afford to do to try and deter any and all AI trainers from using my artwork against my will. Despite the massive increase of generative AI posts, I still don’t plan on signing up for Cara at this time. Instead, I’m going to continue to post my fan art and animations on a multitude of platforms, such as Facebook, Instagram, KZbin, Threads, and DeviantArt.

[@janmartenlocher]

What if someone crops your images..?!

[@ZacharyNoah]

@@janmartenlocher Then I should either cover my entire artwork with a large watermark or mark it with a "No AI Allowed" tag.

[@janmartenlocher]

@@ZacharyNoah Sounds understandable, but it would just make a big watermark trace on your art.. I was thinking the same, not long ago.. Hmm maybe using Glaze for free on Cara and repost in then elsewhere is an affordable solution , nowadays.. Let' s see..!

[@chiu-on-this]

thanks for the shout out Michelle!!

[@mewTripled]

No prob Bobby! Your videos are always informative!

[@LuizAlleman]

Just left insta and joined Cara after learning about it yesterday.

[@Muhammad-Jacobs699]

You literally can't do anything about it. They already scraped all your previous posts without your consent. Even if they do provide options for consent now it'll only be for future posts.

[@avocadopower86]

I dont have a following on IG with my art so i don't worry about it. I'm not interesting it seems.

[@ootzz]

Instagram is too profitable as a freelance artist to leave.

[@Uratz]

I overload my feed with Ai generated art and this messes them up as training data with Ai images gives them garbage data.

[@OnigoroshiZero]

AI art is amazing, and it saved me from 100s if not 1000s of wasted money, and more importantly from wasted time interacting with entitled artists. Now, even voices, music and songs, and at the near future 3d models, and every other kind of assets. Even entire AI-generated movies, and real-time game emulation will be a reality within 2 years from now. If you don't want your art (any kind) to be used to train AI models, then do NOT post it on the internet, especially if you have it free and publicly available. At that point you have already gave permission, so stop crying. As for those saying that "AI will never be creative". Please, learn how the human brain works. We just recognize patterns, and then combine them to create new ones, we do NOT make anything from 0. Also, let's not even talk about the fact that current AI models are already better than the vast majority of humans at generating art (images or music). Anyone that uses these models knows it, only the butthurt people that cry about them try to deny reality or don't want to admit it. About Glaze and Nightshade. 2 years later, and they produced 0 results. The image and video generation models keep getting better each month. Maybe next time try to learn how these models work, and how they are trained.

[@Schreibaby]

I always had a gut feeling why I wasn’t posting much on IG, well now I know!

[@jacquiewiegand6323]

Real artists are under attack ! Cara isn't a platform to sell your art. This is the place we're going to go to band together with our people.And the art sales and jobs will come naturally. Just like they did back when art station first launched

[@ZequalsZ2plusC]

Having been on Cara for just over a week now, I'm honestly wondering if Cara, Glaze and Nightshade are all just covers for more AI.

[@elsevillaart]

What could you spect...from a guy that stole facebook idea.

[@DreamingBlindly]

(This is from my web designer's perspective) Cara is starting out great since its features cater to not just artists but if you're not one and just like watching art you're free to enter and lurk or just socialize. Website is literally free go in and lurk. And it gives that old twitter vibes back when twitter wasn't riddled with adds or shtposts. It might enter that same phase but if it employs a REGULATED tribunal that helps in regulating content and censorship within the site. Preferably made from willing volunteers from the site and in turn will help ease the burden for the devs. Hey free labor is free labor and I'd personally be glad to actually join it to help the community. However, they may need to scan these people for various things and if all goes well and they manage to get at least a few hundred dedicated good people, I could see this platform soar through all other social media sites in less than 6 years.

[@star646star4]

I opened a Cara account today and i'm not sure if i will keep posting on ig or not due to the fact the I mainly do tradtional art and my posts and photos are aready not stright and what not XD, and for now ( from what I have read..) tadtional art is hard for ai to scan due to the texture of the paper and materials used. But idk if it still works if it's a photo. So as of now i'm not gonna post on ig for the moment :(

[@MS-ne6ld]

This is a very thoughtful and quite a nuanced video especially considering it's less than 10 min long, HOWEVER I got majorly distracted by your eyelashes. Love them!

[@littlelotus4572]

Unpopular opinion but y’all be over reacting over AI, oh no AI is learning how to “draw” what exactly is the difference between AI learning how to draw and a person. If you don’t want anyone using your work then don’t post to a public forum where if someone wanted your art exactly they could literally just download the image from that platform and do whatever they want for it. If ya think AI is really that bad then sue the developer but your probably going to loose because most of what they are doing is considered fair use

[@Sh4dowPupp3t]

What should I do as a junior graphic designer. Majority of all the content I’ve seen about AI scraping seemingly only points to painters and animators. And social media as a whole has always exhausted me. I don’t want to do freelance and I feel pressure to post my work online, but I’m not sure if I even have to.

[@LisaMarieFord]

If you want to help send a message to Meta, leave feedback, comment on their posts, try to fill out the request form, send them emails, AND write your government officials about legislation and checks and balances. If you’re in the EU the opt out form or request form MAY work for you. Glazing things may only help so much. The fact is they’re stealing EVERYONE’s content, not just artists. So every photo, video, story, text gets input into the system. Complaining about it all over may get them to notice more: “the squeaky wheel gets the oil”.

[@starcandy123]

I think its smart as a business to have profiles on popular socials. Cara is currently popular and fast growing so having your work there is like marketing yourself to new potential audience.

[@pnwmax]

I like the perspective here.

[@tuja9089]

I wanted to create an account on Cara... but I gave up because an error kept showing up... heh

[@jaxkk1119]

Even if you successfully opt out, your works that have been posted will still be used for their AI, only the future post won't, this is so fxxk up

[@esarts6744]

I feel the same way with my old work. I’m a small artist and will stay in IG but moving forward using tools for my new work

[@emanuellewalesko]

honestly the only reason why i deleted my art ig is because i don't have a big following/business lol

[@katonnor]

I love your work Michelle I am so happy you aren't giving up and I love the glazed thing that is hilarious!

[@ENDERofNothing]

I need my art glaze 😩

[@masepa8519]

Bye Meta, forever.

[@galaxyskullartist]

😮

[@AmiPink_]

[@HiThereHeyThere]

Glaze doesnt really look like it does anything. Cant we save our images in nightshade then upload??

[@HiThereHeyThere]

Glaze doesnt appear to actually mess up the art.

[@loadsheddingzim]

90% of artists crying about this arn't even good enough for tech bros to want to train their ai on their work 😂😂 Really this affects big names like artgerm, loish, samdraw etc sorry😅😂❤ Also at this point its late anyway. Guys just make ur art and hope for the best❤❤

[@lunayen]

Those in the 90% are still better at art than any tech bro, who, instead taking the time to learn, would prefer to generate images of other people's art and claim it as their own.

[@loadsheddingzim]

@@lunayen ok❤

[@_aiborie]

I must say you're very pretty here 😳

[@leahdrook5161]

Second

[@Divy91311]

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