WTF Research : TB & Genna Play Broken Age - Part 2

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[@RobiePAX]

I actually appreciate TB that you were dragging that Portal 2 video for so long. As result I found out that Portal 2 had a pretty hilarious hidden dialogue in it, some that might take from 5 to 10 minutes if you just wait and listen. Game immersion kind of breaks down when the dialogue stops and reminds you "this is a video game", do something to advance in the story or sit in complete silence. Portal 2 gave you the feeling that it can keep going all day without repeating itself, a test who has tougher patience.

[@TheRealSiccSe7en]

There's videos online of all the dialogue

[@4l3XuS]

You have no idea how relaxing it is to listen to both of you. This should be a series, seriously. You guys are amazing.

[@shcode805]

I LOVED you waiting for all that wheatley had to say, it is one of the most amusing moments in the WTF is... series for me.

[@eurohunk2]

I am enjoying their banter way more than the game itself :)

[@Fuzzmunky]

Dear Genna, I hope you have time to read this, as well as that it helps. If I could, I would shake TB's hand and give him a hug. For no other reason than to show some empathy to another suffering human being. Our pain may differ, but we both will live with it for the rest of our lives. There is no getting better, there is only learning to cope. I salute him for finding a way to avoid a source of continued degradation and hope that in time he is able to find a greener pasture to find some solace in. You both know that not all the viewers are hate spewing trolls, but I know its impossible to see those of us that give two pence on your well being. Thank you for reading this and I hope his pain wanes sooner rather than later.

[@burzug]

what happened?

[@tefazDK]

"innerprice" .... ENTERPRISE... lol that cracked me up xD

[@GennaBain]

[@PirageYT]

I enjoy WTF is, but I fucking love these.

[@Checkmate1138]

It's basically TotalBiscuit: Uncut which compliments excellently with his WTF Is? series.

[@Nick0Kyuubi0Narion]

Also, Genna is awesome.

[@Aszarot]

I love how her voice sounds so cute xD

[@cobannobac9897]

love this, gennas the only person that can argue with tb really cos shes his boss. or wife, same thing really

[@NekoiNemo]

And now i know more about ST than Broken Age... But i just love this streams! ❤

[@achromaticcold]

Genna should be a voice actor

[@hey-zl4kh]

*Insert fanboy-type rant and argument about insulting of star trek shows i fanboy enjoyed*

[@Sslarable]

I laughed so hard while watching this, you guys are so awesome when working in pair. These "research streams" are absolutely amazing, looking forward to seeing more of these. :)

[@TheDarq0n]

The Voyager tech used against the Borg was from the FUTURE!!!! Jeez! Janeway forevah! :DDD

[@AlagomSwede]

Ah, Genna Bain. You can really bring out TB's worst parts. From the bottom of my heart, thank you :D

[@TheSarunam]

I love the fact that in the first five minutes, we are basically listening to a husband and wife arguing about.. Star Trek. Loved it.

[@netprince455]

I love the fact that they forgot that they are playing a game for good five minutes xD

[@EctoSage]

I love shows with weekly reset, they don't exist anymore, but the first days of SG1, & Star Trek are some of the best. A unique adventure every week, with the people you like.

[@luckyeddie44]

Enjoying the fact that you both have different opinions on what makes an engaging game. It makes for good viewing. :)

[@salsatheone]

lol the moment before 5:37 they probably muted the microphone and were talking about "omg, double fine subscribed and we're here talking shit about their game" Then they realized and went... "well, fuck it now. Who cares, I'm not gonna start sucking up to them just because they subscribed". This was the highlight of the video! Ma'am you have my like.

[@AshyGr33n]

That thumbnail is fucking SWEET

[@Twinscimitarz]

This is wonderful, and I'm only five minutes in.

[@VeronicaVenatrix]

Genna mentioning my comment in chat about her "But John... But... but... but... but Jooooohn" just after 39:15 made my very early morning as it was about 5:30 AM Swedish time.

[@Saifan95]

TB and Genna's banter is so priceless

[@AnastasiaThemis]

1:15am in England. Uuuurgh looks like i'll be up for another hour!

[@shaness112233]

Playing point and click games is like watching a movie where the protagonist gets lost and glues forks to toasters for half an hour

[@cokiemix]

Hi Genna and John, you Guys are fun keep it up

[@deathnight00]

more Genna!!! shes hilarious and loves to put you in your place :D

[@cloontje]

Star Trek

[@kevinsdb1]

I have no fucking clue what TB and Genna are talking about at the beginning LOL.

[@me-A2B]

You will understand them later when you've married to someone

[@Hale444]

Ironic how TB discusses at length in his WTF how he thinks the puzzles are too easy and not a challenge, yet he struggles with several of them in this play through.

[@Brikkwall]

I also watched and love Enterprise =) T'pal is one of my big tv-series crushes. Dam it felt good to finally say that!

[@zenoDARC]

DoubleFine enters his chat at 5:43 if you looking for it :)

[@75338]

Took me a while to figure it out. Heh.

[@feedback544]

I like how when you lose an argument you just sigh and say "noooo......hmmmm"

[@scandor8599]

I liked Enterprise O_O

[@Betuor]

I get where TB's coming from. If you're a fan of the show/series you'll probably watch it anyways.

[@Nah427]

Genna can put on the cutest freaking voices, holy s- ^^ I just wanna huggle you!

[@ZechOfTheWest]

I must be the only person on the planet who thinks Enterprise and Voyager were better than DS9...

[@cornpop7521]

Yes.

[@Shadowling]

Well, kind of. DS9 felt too much like a soap series to me and while I heard that gets better in later seasons, I'm not going to sit through multiple seasons I don't like just to get at the good stuff. I did like Voyager although there were a lot of derpy episodes. Unlike TB I did like how they were able to beat the Borg even though it felt too much like a bad use of Deus Ex Machina (with the whole time-travelling Janeway coming back to safe the day shit, would've liked it more if they came up with the 'virus' on their own). Enterprise, however, was just generally bad imo. I felt like they tried to bring back the camp from TOS but still took themselves too seriously, which is a terrible combination. I'd definitely rate it below DS9 purely on quality and character development.

[@ZechOfTheWest]

ShadowSerpent000 Fair enough, i also felt the same way as you about DS9.

[@MentalEdge]

Voyager wasn't THAT bad.

[@hatefulvengeance]

"You can affect the outcome of a David Cage game" Uhh... OK TB... If you insist...

[@cynicalbrit]

Play Heavy Rain then get back to me.

[@FTN_Garack]

TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit He/She probably refers to Beyond: Two Souls, which only offers the illusion of a freedom of choice (among many other flaws - it's Cage's worst game so far). Heavy Rain is brilliant, but it's also the one big exception so far.

[@DamonHallam]

Pressfarttocontinue I see you EVERYWHERE

[@Br0teas]

I can watch Enterprise over and over.

[@MrLinguist88]

So much advertisement for Telltale xD

[@shadow11218112]

They're going to play fading hearts, a romance visual novel? Gonna love to see this one

[@ilDuderoni]

The Shield IS f*cking awesome... Watched that since I was a teen. Good times.

[@EnbyBat]

Star Trek is awesome !!!

[@creedless8233]

"Kirk or Picard?" Janeway, period!

[@Leetgrain]

My favourite person in Star Trek is Darth Vader! Inb4 hate and people not realising I'm joking :>

[@manictiger]

Enterprise isn't as bad as people say. The only thing that truly boiled my blood was Nemesis. Seriously, fuck Stuart Baird.

[@soulblade999]

next gen 4 life! Genna knows her star treks

[@Wertsir]

This video: 90% talking about random bullshit, 10% Broken Age.

[@xBennyLavax]

But, but... Enterprise is amazing BibleThump

[@manictiger]

Jets'n'Gunz Gold is an awesome game. My old copy of windows was decaying, so I never finished it (crash to desktop), but I'm replaying it on this clean copy of Windows. Really hope I can complete it, this time.

[@DocChutney]

I listened to don't wanna close my eyes through the sacrifice girl scene

[@equalslove1]

TB should play Finding Teddy cause there is a death mechanic in it even though its a point and click, its also really pretty :3

[@swiftshunter]

Ty TB you're amazing for keeping up with us but if you need to just take a break this is the time for you to deserve it what's happened to you doesn't deserve to happen just do what you wish don't do any commentary if you want there's enough of us who prefer passionate gameplay rather than feeding some delusional animals. Do what keeps you healthy I know this is your source of revenue but i'm sure your friends can help share videos with you an help you just because people don't understand what you have to deal with doesn't mean you can fall to them your advice for games have saved thousands of us not buying terrible games I really appreciate TB. Hope you get the rest you deserve and I hope you enjoyed the cruise.

[@tantatachan]

Best Intro Ever

[@br2k]

23:00 SHOTS FIRED.

[@Edzter]

love the thumbnails

[@Leto_0]

That's a terrible argument TB. You said "you'd rather affect the outcome of a bad story. Because that's what a video game is to you." How often do video games actually change based on your actions? Pretty rarely. Some do, like David Cage games, or the Mass Effect Series for example. But most games have a set story line, regardless of the decisions you make in each section.

[@sitromxe9472]

"David cage's stories are better than Broken age's in the sense that you are immersed in the experience due to the decisions you have made in it and the consequences of those decisions." Bullshit... David cage's games completely fail in generating an immersive atmosphere because the situations and scenarios which they illustrate are so jarring ludicrous and poorly composed that they literally divorce themselves from the intended (dramatic) tone... As such, nobody of sound mind takes them seriously... ... You prefer the games spawned by Cage over Broken age because they are more gameplay extensive, there's no need to dance around this point...

[@MaryMaryMarcy]

I honestly do take david cage games seriously, I absolutely loved beyond two souls and heavy rain, but I will admit they do have their odd moments though. The navajo chapter in beyond completely just shattered everything and took me right out, but I still think heavy rain is really good, despite the fact the killer doesn't change, so the game doesn't have much replay value.

[@sitromxe9472]

Didari Spoiler warning... ... ... ... ... ... Secret Underwater Korean ghost research facility... An entity whose capabilities are completely undefined and inconsistent across the entire jumbled timeline of the game... The same entity, whose powers need to artificially inhibited by the game as to avoid the trivialization every hostile engagement, threat or source of conflict... The needless jumbling of Beyond: Two souls' timeline... The protagonist breaking down into tears in every second scene... Mysterious AI god... Business Bugs... The homeless Illuminati... An extremely concerning quantity of rape scenes... Climbing inside of a fridge in order to escape a lethal conflagration and explosion, and not only surviving this scenario but somehow teleporting out of the still raging inferno, entirely unscathed, onto the street several stories below... A killer who is kidnaps young boys so that he can find a father capable of doing what his father could not, and when he finally finds such an individual he tries to shot him to death... ... Shall I go on... Cage has no shortage of these...

[@MaryMaryMarcy]

Sitromxe Oh I honestly only like heavy rain and beyond, his other ones are a bit batshit crazy. Underwater facility isn't that weird (for me at least) The timeline jumps made sense, sense I thought it was supposed to be a half remembered memory, different things coming in at different times. Killer father was a bit faulty, but if someone is at that stage of killing, their probably insane, or he was just testing their selflessness. Rape scenes Cage does seem a bit stuck on, but I can't really say their a sticking point for me. If by entity you mean raiden, then I thought his powers were fairly obvious, to manipulate objects in the world, sure there are some you cant, but that is in a few game. Though this is just me, I do understand how and why people could absolutely hate and despise these games, or find them laughable. It could be that I find them more of a casual story experience, something to play, accept the logic and have fun with, but as a huge and expansive plot, quite a bit doesn't make sense when you think about it. Still love Heavy rain and Beyond though.

[@ninjabreadman1993r]

"Broken Age blows Cage's games out of the water because his stories are fucking terrible." Stop quote mining to try and make a moot point. What TB is saying is that he personally prefers games where there is a certain amount of player agency, where your decisions have consequences and where you CAN screw up and you CAN fail. As entertaining as Broken Age is, he is correct in that it isn't really a game in the modern sense, because it is impossible to fail beyond just sitting where you are and doing nothing for hours on end. That's why he says he would prefer to PLAY one of Cage's games; story is terrible, but he feels that there is more at stake because you CAN fuck up and fail. Broken Age, at the moment, does not offer that, and you cannot say that it does.

[@kurosisuuu3629]

Honestly, Cage´s stories are good ONLY at beggining. Then, half in the story he finds a way to implement total bullshit into it. And then the ending becomes as Jesse said on podcast "See you in the sequel!" while there will never be any. WTF.

[@DocChutney]

Genna's wool people voice sounded a bit like Fluttershy in the avalanche scene

[@ronyncato7206]

I'm so glad TB recognizes that Enterprise had actual continuity to it. It was nowhere near as good as DS9, but I don't think you'll ever get worse than Threshold...

[@Javierm0n0]

I gotta say, these two are adorable xD

[@SarahWeisters]

The only really good thing I can remember from Star Trek: Voyage is Species 8472.

[@seacrest73]

this game is fucking adorable. i love it.

[@jonnyspace50]

I "love" the room

[@TheGamingDroid9000]

Double fine earnt a bit of good will with me thanks to this stream just by turning up and being fine with TB and friendly biproxy :D

[@inside98]

Enterprise was kinda okay. You gotta have dat faith of the heart!

[@L0LWTF1337]

I agree that DS9 is the best star trek.

[@Mylifeofdragons]

TB and I share opinions about Star Trek series! I like DS9 as a series better, but TNG, the average episode quality is a bit better, but in DS9, the fact that there's an actual overarching storyline makes DS9 greater than the sum of its parts moreso than TNG

[@NessOnett8]

I don't get all the hate for Voyager. Sure, it wasn't DS9 or TNG, but it was good. And should never be compared to the travesty that was "Innerprice."

[@jackskellingtonsora]

No. It really wasn't. It was god awful. It had a decent premise and then forgot its premise for the entire show while trying to be TNG lite because TNG was so massively popular. Basically Berman and Braga suck as showrunners. Berman because he was insanely conservative and Braga because he only had one or two good ideas and repeated them ad nauseum until they were boring.

[@NessOnett8]

***** Must be interesting to live in a world without facts. If only things such as the Nielsen rating existed which could show that Voyager was far closer in popularity to DS9 than it was to Enterprise. That it went on for the originally scheduled 7 years staying strong the whole time, compared to Enterprise which was cancelled early with less than half its original viewership. Good thing for you facts don't exist though, right?

[@jackskellingtonsora]

NessOnett8 What are you talking about? Everything I said was an opinion. You're talking about the objective facts. I never denied the objective facts. Or even mentioned them at all.

[@NessOnett8]

***** using authoritative statements saying that one side is "right" and the other is "wrong" is a conveyance(or assumed conveyance) of facts. Opinions use opinionated qualifiers such as "I think" or "I disagree." This is how English works.

[@jackskellingtonsora]

NessOnett8 You are correct. However, when stating ones opinion, you usually use authoritative statements. Like a critic. However, the objective facts that you posted still have nothing to do with the opinions that I posted.

[@MultiNillz]

Speaking of shows....I LOVED Space:1999

[@Zei33]

Genna Fading hearts was actually 2009 wasn't it?

[@Quikie93]

It IS a 3 hour game. I played it for 3 hours - even less than that, and NO I did NOT use a walkthrough or anything like that.

[@HampterLover985]

#RubXonY

[@CharizardousRex]

unique aesthetic? i feel like ive seen these kind of faces on a lot of animations.. maybe pixar.. i cant tell you which because i dont remember but this aesthetic doesnt feel *new*, although its really purdy.

[@DisasterDylans]

I wouldn't mind if they produced some more point and clicks like quest for glory which mixed point and click with RPG.

[@jruler93]

Great video

[@thebradzone3922]

OH COME ON Vella's characters are pathetic compared to the TALKING SPOON

[@Dragonfire973_]

Nice thumbnail!! :)

[@StephanieLoveful]

and yes genna babyvoice is supercute !!!

[@alexns]

you both sound like my friend and i whenever we are discussing life...she always disagrees with me no matter what.

[@silliaris]

I'm going with TB. DS9 is better.

[@gamzeemakara1583]

infinity ward doesnt touch ghosts

[@FozzyWig]

Voyager is awesome! How very dare you TB >:C

[@RaawHax]

Machina ("Makina") - Machinarium ("Mashinarium")

[@TheRadiatorGaming1]

#RubXOnY

[@EbonMaster]

Its totally a 3 hour game. I beat it in 3h 30m. Only got stuck on the part where they first expect you to combine 2 items and went through almost all of the dialogue. Also yeah the story is nice and I'm looking forward to the next part for that reason but... well.. adventure game logic is stupid.

[@enti0beking]

I really like voyager :P probably because I never listened properly to the lore, I guess.

[@Zeledon2000]

just like tb he has to make a three shell reference

[@jackskellingtonsora]

I would have to agree with TB that Voyager is worse then Enterprise. Voyager has a decent episode here or there, but the grand majority of it is god awful. Enterprise at least has two good seasons, the last two. Minus the offensively horrible last episode that was so bad that it got retconned by a book. This happens when Berman and Braga come back to write a "valentine to the fans." I would also have to agree with him that DS9 is best and TNG is second best. DS9 is just way too good. You can't beat it. I've watched it three times and loved it every single time.

[@archeknight5104]

So, evidently, TB cannot enjoy movies because he can't invest in the story without more interactivity. I hated his entire argument. He could find it boring, but these are still games that can immerse you more than a movie can.

[@archeknight5104]

"If you are going to say that you are into the story, the voice actors,... " the blah blah blah... How can he say he likes ANYTHING if he doesn't like this at all...

[@zeeman155]

"I would rather be able to effect the outcome of a bad story than be a bystander and a spectator to a good one" That's where I disagree. Since you equated Broken Age to a movie that means you would rather play a bad video game than experience of good movie? Well I'm warping what you said a bit, but that's what it sound like to me. So what if Broken Age is an interactive movie, it's still a better piece of medium than Beyond was. The game with more mechanics doesn't automatically win better video game. But I personally value a game by how much the narrative makes me want to experience the interactive bits along the way. Sure Broken Age doesn't do much in the way that the video game medium is able to transcend the movie medium, but it doesn't need to. Broken Age still has elements of discovery and learning via interaction, and it's more of a game than Beyond is. The choices in Beyond never felt impactful or meaningful and didn't make the narrative any better. In Broken Age by using "Rub X against Y" at least you're learning about the world through interactions, by failing one of those you learn about character traits or the world's lore. I think it's a great way of discovering a world and it's characters. If I want to feel smart about what a game made me do mechanically I'd play a game like Civ 5. But sometimes games are just all about the ride, and they can stand on their won against games like Civ 5 because it all boils down to bewilderment and awe of the experience a game makes you feel to you and not what you the player did to achieve that.

[@flamedance58]

You watch bad TV! But I can't give examples! Therefore my own point is moot! XD [Edit] Love TB's "You're talking over the voice acting!" method of just telling you to shut up.

[@Betuor]

Why are you giving away The Bureau? I think it'd be be worse than the CoD hoodie. It's like the clap vs. HIV.

[@FlareShift]

#rubXonY

[@alfredwinchesterjr]

she said shutterfly its fluttershy its a nice converse tho

[@Runsta101]

babylon 5>DS9. DS9 is painful to watch after watching babylon 5.

[@notspacekeeper]

The Garibaldi/Bester arc and its conclusion. Still one of my favourite examples of science fiction screenwriting. Very little in Star Trek comes close.

[@F3LDK0CH]

1:00 red... dwarf

[@StephanieLoveful]

I just want to say. To Totalbuscuit who thinks all click & play game is.. rub X on y . Try playing Resonance. Its involves hacking, finding subjects to discuss, search for folders inside office drawers. And in the end its about a big terrorist attack at the world. - And im only 5mins in. Resonance. - -- tryit !

[@KamakiH]

Hmm, gee, Iunno if I wanna watch this if they're just gonna play a game and be quiet half the time. PFF. Also I should really finish Deep Space Nine...