WTH IS THIS THING?? New edge on the Ozark Trail Dropout axis lock results!

[@lvazure9]

I'm SO GLAD they're making more of these knives.. it was really disappointing to see these going for so much on eBay and other places

[@knivesiguess]

Yup. And we really needed this kind of a burner/starter knife.

[@blackbirdtactics8250]

I was proud for you man. To see the viewers hovering around 45-50 most of the time I was able to watch was awesome. AND to see your name popping up in the comments on almost every video on this knife has been super cool too. Keep doin’ what you’re doin’.

[@knivesiguess]

Thanks, man! I'm on that grind. It's been a blast doing this with you guys!

[@SANCHEZFLA863]

I second this comment , good for you and your channel

[@knivesiguess]

Thanks again! Kind words are always appreciated

[@Fullfire_0]

awesome constant videos and an awesome growing comunity! also that edge tester is just around the courner an cant wait to see some even more presice testing

[@knivesiguess]

I can't thank you enough for all the support

[@YCIGAFSN]

Quite a few of the Knife Snobs, Brand specific Fan Boys and the Tacti-cool EDC guys are bad-mouthing the hell on this knife. So far, all of those that I have seen bad-mouthing this knife haven't even got their hands on one. I said before, I got four of them (three are still sitting in a drawer), and I have been using the hell out of the same one for three weeks plus now. It is still going strong and I haven't had to sharpen it yet; it still can shave. For $10, it is a beast.

[@knivesiguess]

Yeah, something like this will bring the snobbery out in someone. Thankfully there is none of that here. Good is good regardless of price.

[@marzmarch]

I hear “it’s ok for $10” I’ve said before that we don’t have to put a value on it because it’s $10. Day three with ours and my Spydercos are still in the drawer and saying there. Something about this knife just makes me feel good. Maybe after decades of paying so much it just feels good to get a complete win. I appreciate whatever it is so this knife is staying on me.

[@knivesiguess]

There's an element of novelty to something like this, it's basically a unicorn. The novelty will probably wear off after a while but this thing is fun.

[@PensandPenBlades]

Congrats on the success of the live stream! It was quite the experience and enjoyed every second of it. It is an impressive knife for ten dollars. Thanks for sharing!

[@knivesiguess]

I appreciate the kind words!

[@Tusk2001]

Hey! I try to stay on as long as possible but I live on a farm, got animals and chores to do. I am so happy for the channel and you, great job!

[@knivesiguess]

Thanks, man! Believe me, all the time you spend with us is always appreciated!

[@arkansas_edc]

Thanks for the Shout out Bro. Good thorough job you have done fully and unquestionably testing these out.

[@knivesiguess]

No problem! We needed to know.

[@arkansas_edc]

@@knivesiguess that was a ton of hours of dedication... I salute you sir

[@TranceMechanic7]

So, I bought this thing on your recommendation, and I love it. And since I enjoy the lock style, I went and ordered myself a vosteed raccoon since they're supposed to be really nice. Got the Raccoon in yesterday, and frankly it sucks compared to the OT knife. The lock is sticky, the pivot feels gritty and stiff, the detent doesn't keep it closed well, and the blade is less sharp out the box than my OT is after a week and a half of hard use. Walmart is really out there embarrassing knife companies with this move.

[@knivesiguess]

There's gonna be a lot of that floating around. The Nitro V on the Drop Bear isn't gonna hold an edge as long as this one did but the action feels nicer. My Raccoon is a prototype in 5cr so not relevant to this. This OT is gonna be a whole problem as long as it's on shelves.

[@TranceMechanic7]

@@knivesiguess I just hope somebody starts making scales for it so it can look as nice as it acts

[@knivesiguess]

Someone's probably already 3D printing them somewhere

[@williamcaggiano8584]

I loved hanging out in the stream, and left it up when I went to sleep. Cardboard cutting asmr for the win lol

[@knivesiguess]

Yeah, I gotta try an ASMR stream out sometime when I figure out how to separate it from regular sessions.

[@just9911]

I know two people who have purchased dropouts. The noise around the knife caused me to reach out and ask about their experiences. Both are noticing the same sort of thing that outpost76 is seeing - the pivot can’t hold up to regular use and the lockbar is taking damage / deforming to the point that lock failure is likely coming in the near future. They’ve only been using the knives for a short period of time and not abusing the knives. This is a perfect example of how some Chinese OEMs are dodgy. Lock bars should be hardened. They shouldn’t be getting chewed up from normal expected use. This is doubly disappointing as the heat treat on the blade seems to be reasonably well done. Save your money and get something in the 30-40 range from Ontario, qsp, sencut, ruike, honey badger, etc that won’t wear out in a few months.

[@knivesiguess]

I'm gonna keep an eye out for that. I know during my stream I put a LOT of pressure on those locks for extended periods.

[@just9911]

@@knivesiguess I don’t think it’s the pressure so much as the locking surfaces taking damage when the knife is open and closed. The blade is hardened, the lock bar isn’t. When they are pressed against each other there will be some deformation, but not the same sort of stresses as when the two pieces are sliding against and clicking into each other.

[@knivesiguess]

Yeah, but I should at least be able to see SOMETHING. That second one spent 14 hours getting pushed through cardboard in total.

[@just9911]

@@knivesiguess the fact that there seems to be such a wide variance in what people are reporting seems like a red flag in and of itself. If some people are getting hardened lock bars and some people aren’t, what the hell is going on at the factory? That’s the sort of thing that always worries me about the really cheap Chinese OEMs - even if the blades are reasonably consistent, they also need to get all of the hardware done right. I’ve seen some stuff where the liners around the lockbar channel start to deform, locking faces on frame/liner locks mush after a bit of use, and other dodgy work that affects the knife as a tool. For a little more, you can get a damn good value from one of the countless established Chinese makers.

[@knivesiguess]

Yeah, the QC issues show up every time OT does something like this. It's a good burner knife, it's a good starter knife, it's still better than it should be for $10. But MAN OT's QC is garbage.

[@ryanmiskin]

Been carying mine for a week. Broke down cardboard, trimmed some small branches, opened packages, still sharp. Had it in my pocket on a hike today with water crossings, so it was wet or damp for about 5 hours. We'll see how it holds up.

[@knivesiguess]

You should be more than fine. I've marinated D2 in sweat for 3 days straight and nothing really happened to it.

[@Fullfire_0]

from purely a quick research on d2s edge retention it should be close to elmax, ive never used elmax but have used d2 nothing that has held up that good tho. s90v should outperform elmax by a lot. s90v is personally my favourite steel for a knife. i work in dry environments and the worst thing i gotta cut are 2inch zipties but the cardboard is endles so edge retiention is my number 1 go to. that d2 tho got me thinking over here lol

[@knivesiguess]

I wouldn't be as gobsmacked if our other D2 hadn't been as consistent as 8cr has been.

[@jeffventure6078]

He (the knife) is the chosen one!

[@knivesiguess]

Apparently there are multiple chosen ones, I got results on 2 separate examples. I'm still so confused.

[@jerrybradway9812]

One week, that's how long it took for this knife to break on me. I carried it as light duty edc for a week, and the crossbar lock broke. No heavy cutting, no beating on it. It opened boxes and cut straps, that's it.

[@knivesiguess]

OUCH. I REALLY wish the QC was better on these things.

[@jerrybradway9812]

@knivesiguess Fortunately it's just a 10 dollar knife. If I can't fix it, I may try a second one to see if it is possibly a qc problem.

[@knivesiguess]

I know Arkansas Edc batoned one and gave it some rough treatment for a cheap folder and the lock held up fine. Guaranteed QC issue.

[@jerrybradway9812]

@@knivesiguess hopefully your right as otherwise I love the knife

[@knivesiguess]

I wish I would have gotten one with the lock issues myself so I could show you guys. That goes way past cosmetic issues.

[@gheckolock81]

USA made. Amazing! I visited the factory. I did not expect it to be so clean.

[@DaveAlkema]

It says China on the blade.

[@gheckolock81]

@@DaveAlkema of course it says that. How else could they sell it for $5. Do you believe everything you see?

[@DaveAlkema]

@@gheckolock81 Yes, because companies love to advertise cheaper and less desirable traits. Marketing 101 right there.

[@gheckolock81]

@@DaveAlkema It’s working isn’t it. I just like knowing my pants have an American bulge in them. Only have to pay Walmart to enslave my fellow Patriots.

[@radarhec]

It has arrived ! The D-2 is in my hand ! Came 3 days early from eBay USPS ,ohappy day. First ordered from Walmart ,shipped FedEx . wait - wait - wait call - call - lost ! B.S. . The blade dead nuts on center , a drop of oil , its a good flicker ! Goes threw card board like clean & easy. Printer paper needs a edge loving hone . Arm hair , not hair popping but got a few off . Next test dog & cat stuff box ! Till then stay sharp and safe !

[@knivesiguess]

Hopefully you didn't end up overpaying for it, but glad you got a good one. When you get around to sharpening it you'll get a good edge.

[@roger10coutinho]

Dude, congrats for the live stream. I was watching it and still cannot believe how well that blade held up. Hello from Brazil.

[@knivesiguess]

Thanks for the kind words! And all the way from Brazil, too!

[@Thirsty_Tree]

I still got robbed of $2 for sock but had a good time watching lol

[@knivesiguess]

I mean, last bid takes it. HOWEVER for that $2 investment you have created a new challenge on the live streams. We ARE doing Pay For Socks now.

[@Thirsty_Tree]

@@knivesiguess I’m only kidding, no worries hahaha

[@knivesiguess]

Yeah but that's still a fun as hell idea.

[@rocfl59]

Great vid like always very informative 👍🙏

[@knivesiguess]

Thanks!

[@CyberdyneSystemsSkynet]

I could see this knife being price adjusted up to $20 at some point, which is fine, what would be better is if between this and the street price on a Hogue Deka consistently being sub $120 we start seeing a correction of some of the brands charging silly money for having a butterfly on the handle when you can get this for 5% of the price. The USA made and nice steel premium isn't worth a 19x increase, especially when the factory QC is pretty hit and miss on whether you have to clean it up yourself when you get it.

[@knivesiguess]

With the QC issues becoming more and more prevalent on this thing $20 is too much.

[@pokesly-az6280]

Very nice K.I.G. 👌

[@knivesiguess]

Thanks!

[@iratezombiemann]

Very cool

[@nohomafia1169]

Knives and D&D? Is this my secret channel?

[@knivesiguess]

We do what we can around these parts

[@paulschuckman6604]

Have you taken one apart yet?

[@knivesiguess]

Not yet. I don't wanna mess with an axis lock yet.

[@SANCHEZFLA863]

Just came back from grocery shopping at Walmart saw four on the rack and 1 in display not sold out everywhere.

[@knivesiguess]

Good find, man. They ARE still rarified though. I should have dropped by my Walmart to see if I could get one or two to give away but I'm way too wiped out after last night's stream to drive anywhere right now.

[@RICH21716]

Ok I gotta know .... where do you get all this cardboard !?!? 😅

[@rcjoe406]

I luv mine now its laying in a draw with the rest of them 😅😊

[@FoOkDoOsLe]

Mi casa su casa, amigo!

[@knivesiguess]

EXCELLENT

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

Powered D2 maybe?

[@knivesiguess]

I wouldn't expect so with the combined nature of OT, cheapest manufacturing possible, unreliable QT and everything else. An added cost like that doesn't seem viable.

[@maxlvledc]

I think your underestimating the power of a hollow grind imo

[@knivesiguess]

Maybe? We've done plenty of hollow grinds, they didn't go THIS nuts.

[@rustyshackelford4022]

I've been watching videos on this knife and still.Nobody has done a hardness test on that blade.I would like to know what that would be

[@knivesiguess]

Right? I let Apex Alchemy know about the need for an HRC test, hopefully he checks it out

[@peterodriguez2364]

My guess.. again just my thoughts on it... being that it's over all a thinner blade than the larger black blade u showed could be a factor in it's longevity.. .. as u cut thru cardboard the thicker back end of the blade forces the cardboard to spread apart in an angle that puts more pressure towards the leading edge of th knife therefore causing it to dull n fatigue quicker.. if that makes any sense.. again just my 2 cents... I think Ozark Trail got the Magick Formula right with the overall dimensions , geometry and type of steel.. just my guess

[@knivesiguess]

Oh, that totally plays a part. What gets me is that we've done a bunch of different knives. The D2 has been pretty consistent regardless of grind or blade thickness. They might have just done a heat treatment that left a higher HRC than usual.

[@trooper6762]

What is this thing? Out of stock is what it is!

[@knivesiguess]

Hopefully not for too much longer

[@mathewgoebel4078]

They're made in China aren't they What's that tell you Figure it out

[@knivesiguess]

It doesn't tell us much any more. Most of the OEMs for companies selling really damn good blades are in China. Whoever OT's OEM is they haven't figured out how to handle QC in the most baffling way. Like the examples that came out properly are generally awesome for what they are. But then there are just wild ass amounts of QC fails that either got sent anyway or no one actually checked. Some guy in China's all like "I can't look at these knives right now, I was supposed to be in the shower with my dad 30 minutes ago".

[@williamschisler4844]

They are junk after 1 week of mild use the blade will wobbly side to side even after tighten up the pivot, JUNK. Get you a ganzo f759m for your EDC and if you do lose it no big deal for $15 through the ozark in the trash before you get hurt

[@jkirschy]

Just my 2¢... I'm not going to disagree that Ganzo makes better quality and more polished knives than OT. However I don't know that calling OT knives junk is a fair characterization. I don't have this specific model, but I've a number of others. Some of them are good, like the green liner-lock I bought in 2017 or 2018. Some of them are kinda meh, more down to ergonomics, weight, difficultly removing pocket clips due to lock-tight, and QC issues like soft screws that strip out. None of them are as bad as what you're implying, and some of them (the green liner lock I mentioned) I've used as daily beaters opening coffee packets and breaking down cardboard for years at work, cutting up food packaging and paper at home, trimming weed-eater string... In general what I've observed is that OT knives are generally safe knives built with inexpensive materials that work reasonably well provided you're not abusing them.

[@wonderfred]

Wait there were toes and I missed it?!

[@knivesiguess]

There always are