WTT 2023 Top 8 - Tweek (Sephiroth, Diddy Kong) Vs. Acola (Steve) Smash Ultimate - SSBU

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[@haalamn877]

i was reading through the japanese comments and one guy said "It was commendable that Tweek didn't slam the fist bump into Acola's face." LMAO my stomach i cant HAHAHA

[@acronix-053]

lol, even the Japanese are fed up with him because it is not the first time that he roasted him when he was just gaining fame, he did the same to Asimo to win a grand final and that applies whenever they threaten him, he puts up walls and throws the car at him of mine so that he can collect and steal easily

[@Hags_95]

Did we watch the same set ? Tweek's attitude was not worth of a top player. Acola did nothing wrong.

[@EpicBunnyXD]

⁠I’m a tweek fan, but he was the one who attempted a timeout strat in that last game. I don’t blame him for trying it but you shouldn’t shit talk acola for adjusting to tweeks game plan

[@haalamn877]

@@EpicBunnyXD i dont get you, i havent implied anything that im shit talking acola, im just stating the comment that the japanese made that i found funny, what's shit talk about that?

[@ragames7320]

​@@EpicBunnyXDLaughing because somebody encouraged violence against a player you don't like? This is where the doomers are wrong, Smash hasn't fallen, it's viewer base and community has fallen.

[@yin8485]

This was probably the most disgusting match ive watched in a while

[@ErtN-fj8tg]

It was pretty good to me. Not like Americans are worth respect.

[@Negius]

@rioru-eg3jgfgd you should feel sorry about yourself

[@BlackEndsWhite]

tweek shouldnt have made acola pick steve like that smh@rioru-eg3jgfgd

[@Weebfox]

@rioru-eg3jgfgd wtf are you talking about he played vs Steve who has the best tools in the game for everything, going for a timeout against the character is actually much more optimal

[@elvampe13]

@rioru-eg3jgfgd Blame Nintendo for not patching their game.

[@timlittlefield8486]

If this isn't proof that Steve is sending this game down the shitter then idk what is

[@alexneuman600]

Couldn't have possibly said it any better.

[@KingPhilipsRideshare]

Japan won’t get down behind banning Steve, just because of this singular players clout, and I would say it’s an embarrassment to that entire nation smash scene. If they would just join us, the character would be history and we could move on.

[@alexneuman600]

@@KingPhilipsRideshare lmaooo i also started suspecting that this is the exact reason why Japan is against a steve ban so much

[@KingPhilipsRideshare]

@@alexneuman600 coming to America and winning a major pays a lot better than winning anything in Japan, so why would they stop their boy from getting that fucking bag? Especially when we’re some pussy ass nation that won’t even ban the goofy clown ass character to stop them from farming the bag over here. Let them play for ¥200 in their own Nintendo circuits. We will ban Steve here come on let’s get it going.

[@user-zi8ui6yi7d]

Condescending ass commentators

[@smac646]

This is the first pro Ultimate match I've seen in like two years. Oh my god

[@smac646]

What happened?

[@kkokay4]

Late stage smash always ends up like this (except melee) @@smac646

[@doodoo2065]

​@@smac646 steve happened

[@pkpk-cd4vx]

嘘ついてるのバレバレだよ（笑）

[@andrebaxter4023]

@@smac646, Tweek got outplayed. Simply put.

[@elijahmims1928]

I don't blame Tweek for playing how he did because that's what Acola does all the time. Every Steve player never approaches. It's tilting having to be the only one that approaches. Then when you do approach it ends up being exactly where they want you to be every time.

[@SuperComet101]

it’s objectively not how the matchup is played. as a hero main, i speak from experience in saying that the only way you rly beat steve it beat him to double diamond. at that point he’s such a broken character ur basically fucked. this is the most cooked tweek set i have ever seen and idk wtf he was doing

[@cydra671]

That was the stupidest shit you could ever do against Steve, don't just let the man mine for resources for free, that's worse. Tweek was definitely tilted and not having it that day

[@elijahmims1928]

@@cydra671 Lol i didn't say it was smart. But i also don't blame him for getting tilted either. People were trying to get Steve banned from tournaments lol. That's how unfair the fighter and it's play style is.

[@cydra671]

@@elijahmims1928 Agree with Steve being broken, that's why I refuse to pick him up out of principal, even if it means getting more wins against my friends

[@andrebaxter4023]

So be a good hunter and destroy them for hiding from you. That’s all there is to it. Tweek is an amazing player. I love watching him, especially when he plays Sephiroth because I main Sephiroth. However, being titled never helps. Gotta learn to control your emotions. Getting titled just ruins performance.

[@hexxcarbonox6104]

The problem is that this character is BY DESIGN allowed exclusively to outright succeed with this strategy.

[@s3eriousbl9ck26]

Like sonix huh 😂😂😂

[@doodoo2065]

​@@s3eriousbl9ck26 Oh yeah, Sonix, my favourite character

[@Frilleon]

Steve is painful to watch

[@armania_9064]

Nah man Tweek had to have murdered his whole family and his puppy or something. What was that all about lmfao, Tell us your story 🤣

[@JKBeta1021]

Acola played like he truly hated him💀

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

Yeah fr he is usually the calm and collected type. He seemed to give up as soon as he lost his first two stocks

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Yeah wtf. Acola could have ended this set in half the time if he'd wanted to.

[@TreyMM-qz4wg]

Read the tag buddy. :)

[@themidgarbadass2517]

The fact he even gave acola a fist bump shows the mental fortitude of tweek

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

No that’s called bare minimum good sportsmanship.

[@trinixjin8039]

@@jaydenvaporwave1772 in this unique circumstance i'd say mental fortitude over bare minimum sportsmanship, tweek stood 0 chance and Acola was toying with him

[@unovi8141]

Tbh this set showed anything but mental fortitude from Tweek

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

@@trinixjin8039 tweek does stand a chance with acola tho, he literally mentally taped out after losing his first 2 stocks. Come on bro you can’t tell me tweek wasn’t himself mentally this set. He is usually more calm headed and even the commentators pointed it out.

[@themidgarbadass2517]

@@jaydenvaporwave1772 you didn’t disprove what I said at all though… 🤔

[@toffee781]

Honestly with this type of MU's Tweek is losing to, he needs Cloud and not Seph.

[@adamquenano8563]

Unfortunately he hates using Cloud in ultimate.

[@lloydaran]

Sephiroth can do perfectly fine against Steve, actually Steve players think he's one of his hardest matchups. Tweek needs to grind the Steve matchup, not switch characters.

[@steezymnk]

is this charles on a burner?

[@bonni4493]

Seph does perfectly fine vs Steve. Tweek just didn't practice him at all lately and it was definitly cold and not ready.

[@toffee781]

​@@steezymnk👀

[@Negius]

whats with all the tweek hate? did someone piss off the japanese peanut gallery?

[@silverjeyjey4054]

Yeah I'm not sure, I think ppl just hate acola and hate tweek more for not beating him.

[@baaam26]

Steve defenders nothing new, even Japan despise the character, the only people defending Steve are Steve players or casuals who know nothing about the game

[@TreyMM-qz4wg]

​@@baaam26Whitespace is shrinking.

[@kamicloudss]

I took a break from watching smash a few years ago. I’m mainly a melee guy but I watch a few ult matches every now and then. This is my first time seeing a steve match and wow. That is all I can say. Like Jesus at 11:20 all tweek can do is just sit there as Acola keeps mining

[@beszt95]

you aren't missing much, melee is a much better spectator experience. anytime a steve comes on i mute or turn off the stream at this point lmao

[@SMFizzy]

To be fair tweek plays terribly against acola. Acola was definitely playing like this open purpose to tilt tweek. Players like Sparg0 and Miya have steve figured out.

[@alexneuman600]

​@fizzy6987 He doesn't. He tried his two best characters, but nothing worked. He tried running in and attacking, and never approaching and camping. But. Nothing. Worked. Tweek went to both extremes in every way and absolutely got his ass whooped by this character. A steve ban is the only thing that can save ultimate.

[@alexneuman600]

More proof that steve needs to be banned:

[@SMFizzy]

@@alexneuman600 Kinda agreeing with me? I said Tweek plays terribly against Acola. Acola also switched his playstyle to tilt tweek. As for a ban nah it won’t make things better. People have already figured out Steve. Acola will lose #1 status next season unless he can get a solid secondary.

[@verbage432]

Matches like these remind me that i can never be a top level player. Not because of the skill level required to be a top player But because i'd have to participate in whatever the hell this was

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

That goes for any match-up we don't like. I think it would be unbearable for me to fight against banjo or icies. But I'm okay with the patient mu like sonic, steve, and other projectile users.

[@nocando17]

Exactly why I no longer want to go too one either

[@aki9799]

良くも悪くもこの試合がコロナ後大会シーンを表している

[@aa-kf5rg]

スマブラsp史はコロナ前とコロナ後に分かれる

[@juancdavelavilaelias903]

I mean acola is a good player but the playstyle is kinda... Make a house and wait until your opponent enter into the only space to punish So bored to see

[@Kukublu92]

Yup. Watching his Aegis vs his Steve is proof that Steve is the problem and not Acola being ridiculously good. If he was such a great player he wouldn’t lose so much with Aegis lol

[@x3nover207]

​@@Kukublu92ehh no, absolutely wrong, him losing with aegis it's not because he's not an amazing player it's because he's learning the character, he already managed to win a game against sparg0 this tournament, with aegis, if that's not talented then you're just biased dude

[@joecool4872]

@@x3nover207 He's hard carried

[@Kukublu92]

@@x3nover207 he’s been playing Aegis and using her as a legitimate secondary for a while now, and it’s a character that doesn’t even have a high skill ceiling. Winning one game with Aegis in one tournament doesn’t really mean anything. Aegis is still regarded as one of the best characters in the game. If Acola is really that talented there isn’t an excuse, oh wait there is, it’s that Steve is ridiculously broken and doesn’t require insane talent to be great with. You proved my point

[@Hags_95]

​@@Kukublu92Acola isn't beating Spargo with Steve either soooo ? Your point is not valid

[@tylercampbell9929]

Steve isn’t even entertaining to watch

[@toffee781]

Blame the 10 year olds who spammed this cringe character at the ballot.

[@DavionLane]

This was entertaining tho

[@brokenbones2166]

Maybe you have bad taste

[@Dashinater]

More like the ways to win against him aren't fun to watch

[@crazykhespar8487]

More like playing with/against win/lose its boring

[@zora2532]

Tweek looks like his family is in hostage and the only way to release them is to win this match

[@chucklebutt4470]

dammmnn the dislike ratio on this video lmfao

[@willkeef4749]

How many dislikes? I can’t see it😂

[@RaspyCh]

@@willkeef4749there’s more dislikes 💀

[@Alanis1337]

​@@willkeef4749 1.2k to 1.6k

[@mohammadalhusaini810]

The fact steve can do all that bullshit and sephiroth loses wing after a stock is just so sad to me, they said this character would be like a boss character but they butchered him. WHY MAKE HIM LIGHT AND HAVE AWFUL FRAME DATA WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING AT LEAST CHOOSE ONE

[@StateOfTheMind11225]

They weren't kidding, they put a world destroyer of multiple planets and sephiroth.

[@Dr_Tune]

Sephiroth is balanced, Steve is not.

[@mohammadalhusaini810]

@@Dr_Tune nah bro sephiroth has way to many weaknesses, being light and have horrible frame data means if you miss a move at high or mid percent you almost always die plus him being very tall also adds to that AND no out of shield option

[@Dr_Tune]

@@mohammadalhusaini810 He has incredible range and speed, I’d say it’s pretty balanced. He’s usually ranked as a high tier in most tier lists

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@mohammadalhusaini810 Sephiroth is fine. He's not amazing, but he's not useless in tournaments either.

[@user-bj2np4pw4d]

At what point is a player considered carried by a character? It’s obvious Acola is a very talented player, but this sort of domination isn’t something that he would be capable of without Steve. Maybe I’m just biased against his character, but I’m skeptical of anyone who saw such a meteoric rise after picking up Steve.

[@rubberwoody]

he apparently beat kameme with incineroar

[@ax8914]

That was miya ​@@rubberwoody

[@andrewyang222]

Would light be as good if he didn’t play fox?

[@user-bj2np4pw4d]

@@andrewyang222 that’s the thing though, if Light played a different character I think he could still be a top player. Fox is broken, but he’s only regular broken. There are other characters with comparable strength. Steve isn’t like that, there’s no other character as good as him, and it’s not particularly close.

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

Nah when you look at acola he is the most boring Steve, but that because he doesn’t really do techy stuff with Steve he really just the best Steve at bar bones neutral. If you watch him closely you’ll see he never does anything too fancy and when he does have a wall up he is always aware of spacing and in general has the best width punish game of all the Steve’s out there.

[@TheCrAzYfox2332]

The amount of work you have to put in to not even win, but effectively play against steve is ridiculous.

[@coberry1987]

That was a spineless fight.

[@mynor5249]

The sad part is that Tweek actually mained a character that is considered to have a good mu vs Steve: Pokemon Trainer

[@LinkMaster5555]

Yeah i want PT back

[@DrAhumada15]

Most people originally put Sephiroth as one of Steves worst MUs. The problem is Steve's bad MUs are not that bad.

[@nellio3981]

I believe he has started training with it a bit more but maybe doesn't feel as comfortable with it yet

[@Hermesmaybe]

I don’t think he likes pt

[@aaronjosephs4669]

The sad part is that Steve is in the game. Regardless of broken or not broken I don't think most people enjoy watching him and he's single handedly reducing the viewership of the e sport I don't know all the details here but another thing I'll say is that I don't believe the money + sponsor situation is the same in Japan whereas other players have incentives to play "interesting" characters to get sponsors

[@ivosotatted4123]

Time out Steve is literally insane

[@jude_210]

This is the best commercial for Rivals 2 I've seen so far

[@doodoo2065]

LMAO

[@xann2681]

The 770 likes to 1k dislike ratio, people DESPISE steve lmao

[@resonantchime8458]

I haven't watched smash in over a year. I couldn't watch this longer than 2 minutes.

[@Fpl8646]

We can’t take results in this game seriously anymore because the game is NOT competitively balanced. Rankings are not a representation of one’s skill in late meta Ultimate.

[@mr_knowledge_]

why is there no rule against lack of engagement. I loved ultimate before but this has lost a lot of value as a spectator imo

[@luigimitsu]

Because what if you try to engage and get punished for it? Smash is a game where you have too much space to work with and camping is a huge part of the game, always. You just can't make those kind of rules for such a campy game, unfortunately. Retreating and attacking beats a lot of approaches.

[@mr_knowledge_]

@@luigimitsu I agree and totally get where you're coming from it just seems like he's rewarded for not engaging which I guess is a legitimate strategy it just loses a lot of fun as a spectator. Tweek took the loss in stride which is way more than I could say for myself. I don't consider myself a rager but that would tilt me 🤣🤣

[@luigimitsu]

@@mr_knowledge_ Yep, I've fought top Steve's online and I hated every moment, I'm happy I can beat most Steve's, but playing a true master of the character is a nightmare. I used to main him as well, knew from the beginning that the character was bullshit lol. Still the player doesn't deserve hate for playing to their characters strengths, but it's a load of nonsense fighting that character.

[@mr_knowledge_]

@@luigimitsu yeah I wasn't meaning any hate towards acola at all but definitely deep rooted hatred for Steve lmao

[@SinfulCadence]

@@luigimitsuhe deserves hate for dragging out the length of a match he could’ve ended much earlier. This was petty and bad sportsmanship. Most 20 minute matches are at game 5.

[@TheGreatSammyJack]

I think if I'm losing to a Steve on stream I'm going to emulate this. If I can't beat em, make him unbearable to watch

[@DrSlump-fz9ki]

I am surprised that Seph wasn’t able to do better in that particular match up, but Tweek probably hadn’t used him all weekend for the most part, and that looked annoying to play against anyway

[@erickalvarez6486]

Thanks for saying what VoiD said, again!

[@andrebaxter4023]

Yeah Tweek said himself that he hasn’t been practicing Sephiroth lately.

[@ErtN-fj8tg]

Acolas better that's why.

[@kraybus]

you mean steve is better@@ErtN-fj8tg

[@Yokai_Yuri]

​@@andrebaxter4023Not worth to prsctice Seph. He is pretty bad in this game

[@Weebfox]

Some of these comments and especially the ones by clear throwaway accounts attacking Tweek because he decided to play timeout against the bets character in the game whose only weakness is his speed are disgusting We had a while back people attacking a kid for the character he played, and now we have people attacking a person for playing optimally vs the best character in the game Going forward I legit wish more and more people with fast characters would just go for a timeout from minute 1 vs Steve so we can finally then really have the discussion about his effects for the health of the game and the scene I don't like the idea of banning characters, but just like Sonic optimally plays for timeout (but is also blessed with great tools to box) the optimal counterplay to Steve is a timeout, since on EVERY other field he has the rest of the roster beat

[@Weebfox]

@@shaggywali9575 It definitely was an act of desperation and frustration at that point, yes. But at that moment, when he felt helpless, he went for an option that would be good for him, but the implementation in the moment was poor. Still the idea was there. I just dont think people should be making throwaway accounts to tell him it was disgraceful and he should retire over a bad implementation of an optimal strategy.

[@user-nb7xp9qw6g]

2:00 面白いと思ってんのかな

[@elijmin2]

Tweek really said “change that shit back” 😂 17:27

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

Bro I would have a serious talk with production afterwards fr

[@jaytay4027]

He said wtf are you doing lol

[@HyperBox-mt1io]

That had me rolling I can't lie😂

[@haalamn877]

@@jaydenvaporwave1772 I mean even in 11:34, the camera man is literally zooming in his face, like they are trolling him, like what the heck?

[@adrian_pagan]

Acola grinned 🤣

[@LoJahn]

Wow Steve is literally the lamest character in Smash history

[@ragames7320]

Lol cry

[@ClockWorksb]

genuinely the most disheartening set i've seen in the past 5 years

[@user-nb7xp9qw6g]

こういう試合が生まれる以上スティーブはいなくなった方がいい

[@quetzal3428]

whoever kept zooming up on tweek's face like that - you are just a jerk. Not only is that rude to any player, but literally watch the throne was made possible partially because of tweek talks.

[@dee6561]

I'd rather have Cloud backair than any aerial Sephiroth has. Enough said.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Ofc, Cloud bair is one of the best bairs in the game.

[@goldman1996]

Naw honestly, the true a**hole is kinda production ngl

[@joshuadavis8265]

03:44. Granted it wasn’t the sweet spot, but can we take a moment and acknowledge how ridiculous it is that one wing seph down smash didn’t break the block 😂😂😂

[@rannynihilius8481]

Fundies and actual skill isn't requiered in this game anymore. You just need your simple af gameplan and the character to execute it with. Matches have turned into campfests or rage inducing beatdowns and it doesn't even feel satisfying when the Steve loses but just as lame when you're forced to camp him out or hit him with disjoints. Watching Tweek is one of the only things that still brings joy to me in this game post FP2 and watching one of the most technically gifted and fundamentally skilled players back when this game wasn't filled with overtuned unpatched characters that change the rules of the game at their will is just more and more souring my desire to watch non Melee tournaments. The character variety in this game was it's biggest strength yet FP2 made it so that top level play is now a metacheck that leaves players who don't main characters who don't have a shot against DLC or one of the 3 characters that seem to actually have a good MU as a secondary out of a shot for No. 1. I watch Melee if i want a good collection of the same 8-12 characters at every event because the top and high tiers all have extremely fun chemistry against each other and not Ult's boring DLC. Ever since acola just came out of nowhere and took Leo's number 1 spot that used to actually mean something to me as a spectator it just feels like we've been stuck in a wrong timeline where actual storylines that i've watched for don't happen or just get plain delayed. I was so hyped for Leo, Tweek and Sparg0 to have an actual number 1 race at the start of the year with Sparg0's number 1 being only a matter of time but along this way i just stopped caring. Besides Leo just getting left in the dust nothing else feels natural anymore to watch. The only guy who i still think is a natural number 1 contender besides sparg0 to me is a god damn campy Sonic main to really hammer in how screwed being a spectator is rn. I enjoyed the game's unpatched day 1 Wolf, Peach, Pichu meta and the game during FP1. I miss the time when Palu and R.O.B. were the most controversial characters and when great sets wouldn't only happen in Top 64 but Top 8. The sets between especially these 2 players just show me why i stopped caring a long time if i even watched the tourneys anymore. Tournament had a really cool Summit-like vibe but when half of the contenders are either using Sonic or FP2 why even bother man. I sincerly hope that any lingering person who still defends a character that disables the word risk finally wakes up that it's killing viewership more and more no matter if he's ban worthy or not.

[@zuko5737]

As broken as I think steve is hes not winning everything currently. In most fighters when a character is beyond broken they make up for 75 percent of characters used in top 8s. Personally more people have to play steve and perform as well as acola for the ban to be more talked about. With that being said I do agree that this game is going into the dark ages.

[@Gambit-YT]

@@zuko5737we will never see 75% as a single character. There’s 90 characters to choose from and Steve is the most boring to play as and against.

[@Zarberian]

holy yap fest

[@zuko5737]

@@Gambit-YT Not true. Tekken has 54 characters including dlc and a huge player base and on that game when a character is broken you will see about 3-4 in top 8 consistently even if the character was boring and un fun to play against. If you play a competitive game for a living and you don’t pick the best characters you are decreasing your chances of winning significantly.

[@doodoo2065]

Seriously though, why do people complain so much about Sonic And they choose to complain about Sonix's sonic specifically which makes even less sense in my opinion

[@benji6325]

18:02 Can somebody tell me the inputs that Tweek did to do this?

[@zafkiel8983]

i think he’s just doing a lot b-reverses with the peanut gun. you can cancel the gun early with a jump and then b-reverse to shift your aerial momentum. it would probably be better to look up a video on b-reversing if u wanna practice.

[@HyperBox-mt1io]

That sequence was the most interesting part of the set

[@sedatcano8216]

It’s a shield cancel, you can press shield immediately as you popgun/b reverse and it’ll cancel without an airdodge in the air or without shield coming out on the ground

[@scumxixx]

look up popgun canceling instead@@zafkiel8983

[@benji6325]

Thanks

[@its_truema_6754]

Almost 20 min for a 3-0 is bad i wish the match where a bit faster most of the time. Even if it Acola gameplan to not approach Tweek for x reason, the game favor to much certain characters that can avoid interacting with the opponent with there tools that the game offers them. I wish there was a system like guilty gear or something close to punishing like tha.

[@guillermotrujillo5575]

Steve covers so many hit boxes 😂

[@rmdashrfv]

It's so shitty that the commentators are making it seem like the situation is Tweek's fault for being hesitant to approach. Like come on guys, I know you see what we all see.

[@colliecell]

i feel so bad for tweek

[@hidood5th]

I'm so tired

[@__Awaken__]

I miss the era of tweek and pokemon trainer 😭

[@JJ-xe6wd]

if we went off stereotypes, I would have never expected Acola from Japan to be this disrespectful. Bro has an angel on one shoulder and ddee on the other😅

[@DGSnowolf]

where was he disrespectful?

[@Hi-fd4cw]

By playing Steve

[@hiro120]

That was tough to watch, great match none the less. The Seph struggling so hard against Steve despite having a bit better tools to break blocks vs the much hotter Diddy, and trying to play for the time strategy was a good try. Can't wait to see Tweek bounce back and wonder if anyone can slow down Acola

[@erickalvarez6486]

What you mean anyone? He placed 4th, at least 3 can 🤣

[@joonaskuokkanen1672]

how was this a great match? ;D 3-0 match with 20min runtime and a solid 5min tweek not doing anything at all cause what is the point

[@imme4711]

It was not a great match. You don’t have to lie.

[@SeanRainey]

Steve is tough to watch. He's an absolutely unbalanced character who's meta is camping.

[@doodoo2065]

​@blurry.magnetsSonic is cool in the correct hands, which luckily for us, are the kind of hands owned by the two best sonic mains Idk I just find Sonix doing a combo into going offstage and killing with fair to be really satisfying

[@kingtaco536]

God this character is insanely boring. Run away mine, run away mine, minecart, minecart, 60 percent combo a 3 year old can do, minecart, run away, run away, run away

[@Hags_95]

Tweek let him do that though.. Acola vs Gluto set was nothing like that

[@kingtaco536]

@@Hags_95 idk if you watched the same set I did, acola was running away for 21 minutes

[@Hags_95]

@@kingtaco536 yes, bc Tweek let him do that. Watch Acola vs Gluto

[@squiggy8849]

Steve is not ok

[@43idiosyncrasies65]

Just goes to show how unbalanced Steve is, that even a "bad mu" looks legitimately free at the top level And even when Tweek went time out Diddy, Acola could make 2 mistakes for every mistake Tweek made and would still win

[@chosenone543]

never fail to ruin smash with some whack dlc character

[@user-gy1qs8qj9m]

Incidentally, Japanese DD player Riouo has been playing Maesuma to a set count of 2-2 against A-cola😂 Please admit that Tweek is more stupid than Riuoh😂

[@godofdreamzzz]

Sonix makes it look ez

[@nellio3981]

Don't think this is a bad mu for Steve

[@PAM_leaf]

​@@user-gy1qs8qj9myeah ryouu (I cannot remember the name correctly) was giving a Acola tips on twitter

[@mugen012]

Is it even fun doing this? I know it is a competition, but i can't believe he gets any feeling of accomplishment

[@GSEleven]

This has got to be more lame than G&W vs Sonic. Or R.O.B vs anyone. Tweek is a better man than me, because win or lose, after matches like that-you're not getting a fist bump ever.

[@heraldofv3379]

Why did youtube recommand to me the most depressing match ever

[@kedonYT]

now THIS is riveting gameplay. why are we ok with this?

[@Pichulover69]

Because TO’s are cowards.

[@kylervlk2142]

Actually, we aren't tho

[@TreyMM-qz4wg]

​@@Pichulover69you don't run shit kid. Stfu.

[@PassTheSnails]

17:28 tweek gets pissed that they changed the camera angle on the stream

[@Spyder-Marth]

This is the worst set I've ever watched. Not sorry.

[@Naoplays1]

Game 3 is literally the best metaphor I could think of for how it feels to be a marginalized group during a time of false peace

[@s-zz]

You must be a Ganon main then 😂

[@MerryBlind]

Pokemon Stadium seems like a very good stage for Steve; why do players not ban it when playing against him?

[@redraven123]

Because the other stage choices are also horrible.

[@lmclrain]

does anyone know if there is a channel, in which only there is the sound of the game? this commentary is distracting I am trying to focus more on the gaming rather than on them If I mute the video, it is not the same

[@YaMother6304]

Nah that’s ode. Point of the game is to box it out and interact with the other players. How the hell are you gonna build a wall to keep the players away from you. L gameplay no lie. Props to tweek for trying though and keeping his cool

[@Swaggo_]

No shade on Acola, hes very good, but its just not fun watching steve camp in a house.

[@GSEleven]

You don't have to say no shade to Acola, there was none. He's a great player but Steve is just lame to watch.

[@playharderscrub]

He's playing to win not to entertain you

[@Swaggo_]

@playharderscrub I understand that, he's playing Steve optimally. Tho It's killing the competitve scene. Which means lower views and lower winnings on tournaments.

[@fupalover]

If only you played a character that doesn't allow that.

[@coltermasson8124]

He’s very much carried by a broken character. Tweek could play Steve for a week and beat him in the ditto

[@GreatBorde]

Tweek turned on the slow cooker and jumped in

[@Decrypt-Kryptonian]

DAMN ................ LMAO CHASING THIS GUY DOWN is a FUCKING Nightmare* lmao

[@flowgix6427]

2:00 Acola is kidding with us

[@spencer5163]

I wonder how Tweek's Pokemon Trainer would have done in this MU

[@JosoLifts]

Apparently ivysaur does very well vs steve. Idk about the other two tho

[@ragames7320]

@@JosoLifts Still think his PT would get farmed by Acola. Diddy is his best bet.

[@toureyounouss7897]

Can someone just explain me How a character can do good against Steve💀💀💀

[@NotHere-un5pf]

Greninja invalidates the ever living shit out of Steve but no one wants to use him. Rising fair snuffs minecart, charged shuriken travels through blocks, counter on anvil/minecart, double jump/up-b at ledge removes ledge trapping, and the speed/jump height to follow Steve off stage for edge guards. You can also just fall into his up smash with counter if you want to and Gren can do other things like challenge walking up tilt with his down tilt and poke Steve through anvil drops from the side with rising bair (fair clanks sometimes). He’s the one character I picked up that actually puts Steve on the backfoot.

[@MeKaSwampert]

@@NotHere-un5pf what does greninja do when steve is holding up tilt on his shield

[@M0ebius]

For real though did Tweek talk shit about Acola before? Acola looked like he went out of his way to humiliate Tweek.

[@Meroknight]

Tweek should bring back Cloud or PT as a secondary to deal with GnW/Steve, and abandon Sephiroth. Seph only helps him vs BigD's Icies, but doesn't really cover any of Diddy's bad MU's.

[@kkokay4]

100% agree, seph is also mid af

[@redraven123]

He said recently he's probably gonna switch to Cloud.

[@andrebaxter4023]

Meh. Sephiroth is great for this matchup. Tweek got severely outplayed. He was giving too much respect to Steve’s burst options. Also, he let the production teams’ antics get under his skin during the set which made it worse. I believe in Tweek though. He can do much better next time.

[@user-su8ox4vl5n]

steve is so broken lmao

[@josealzaibar5274]

Ban Steve.

[@Person-wu1cy]

I sometimes think about coming back to smash ultimate

[@Unknown_Nexus535]

11:20 this is good gameplay

[@Fain255]

The only ones being even more of a coward than Acola are the TOs that refuse to ban Steve

[@nofriendsclub69]

Look what theyve done to my boy 😩😢

[@user-bo6jo3uq8w]

17:26

[@LookatHumanBugUniversity]

海外でセフィロスってどんな評価ですか？

[@Crazy13Morales]

Is banning Steve an option here?

[@PriP_msm]

Crazy 🎉🎉🎉

[@user-hh4xb8td7j]

今回AKを除くアメリカのプレイヤー全員が日本勢に負け、dabuz ken戦以外は日本勢が全部勝った "アメリカ"じゃなく、"NA"と縋る気持ちわかるよ

[@Fpl8646]

Make Yoshi’s story and Lylat legal. As it is now. Steve just has to ban FD and its wraps

[@javontaehampton146]

I love watching acola 😊 such engaging gameplay reminiscent of animal crossing new horizons

[@RaulYoryi]

Fue durísimo lo del ultimo match tweet le dejo que farmee todo para que asi se acerca y pelear y aun asi es steve no venia y con ventaja ni intentaba jugar

[@uryanflores4378]

Según lei por ahí, la última estrategia de Tweek era hacerle algo de daño y escapar por 7 minutos, pero pues Steve hace eso, y mejor 😔

[@epicbeetrootmaster1235]

Heartbreaking!

[@KingPhilipsRideshare]

Tweak died on the cross with Diddy, so we could see the truth

[@lostboy3476]

The playstyle lowey kinda depicts what kind of person you are and im quite sure acola is such a chicken and a pssy😂

[@GoharioFTW]

Or he wants to win and get ez money

[@bling0holic]

Honestly, great job for Tweek trying to find a way out of that fight vs Steve. Personally, stage is the key to having a better match up with Steve, and PS2 was not it. That wall up from Acola at the right points of the two platform is going to be hard for any body fighting Steve and that's not including Steve's good frame data compared to others. Unfortunately, Tweek couldn't find a way to break that, because Steve is that good of a character. Not to say Acola isn't a good player, the amount of parries he was doing were spot on, but the brutal truth is the DLCs imbalance destroyed most of the cast. Why try harder with another base rooster character when the DLC can do less execution (ish) and deal the same damage or more. It's a common PvP knowledge. Good Job to both players and more to Tweek because he was dealing with a Steve. Acola's strategy is not underhanded, he played correctly, call it what you will, but he played solid with or without Steve.

[@user-gy1qs8qj9m]

Incidentally, Japanese DD player Riouo has been playing Maesuma to a set count of 2-2 against A-cola😂 Please admit that Tweek is more stupid than Riuoh😂

[@crazykhespar8487]

@user-gy1qs8qj9m You are spamming that everywhere. You okay?

[@joelcudjoe3833]

It’s not even DLCS all the DLCS are MORE beatable than Steve, and it’s honestly annoying because once Steve came out he easily made it to top 8s like months later

[@markmorales7493]

@@user-gy1qs8qj9m please admit that you a hater

[@pietrobrattico9272]

That was really rough

[@crazykhespar8487]

My uptilt is positive on shield so Im gonna spam it to shield poke :D

[@user-wo6zi8iw4q]

萎えるのは分かるけど頑なにポケスタ選ぶのはどうなんて思う。一周回って政治にも見える

[@colekastner3775]

If Steve is played like this he should be banned. A character that can choose to never interact unless they are highly favored in any given situation is not good. For the health of the game

[@crazykhespar8487]

Oh look, Rioru, the guy with 4 accounts thusfar. I guess those are also your likes. Cool.

[@inmybestdaysidontdocrack]

I’m ngl, tweek didn’t play good here either. Tweek played so much better at summit against acola. And I wonder why he freaked out at the time outs. Tweek usually never lets that shit get to his head. Acola was purposely trying to tilt him and it worked. He’s probably hoping to time out sonix when he plays him. But trolling Tweek like this was lowkey kinda funny but like Jesus dude lmao

[@haalamn877]

the podcast of mkleo and tweek just made a lot of sense why tweek acted this way, tweek just really struggle against this match up

[@Tater8q3f]

Could you point me in the direction of the podcast in question?

[@haalamn877]

@@Tater8q3f sure just search luminosity tweek and mkleo

[@sora31662]

goat talk i think if not Luminosity gaming smash channel@@Tater8q3f

[@Moegivesmelife]

@@Tater8q3f The podcast is called Tweek Talks. I can’t give any links because the comment gets hidden otherwise.

[@froakie1404]

so can we ban him now

[@ErtN-fj8tg]

Nope

[@Hags_95]

Tweek ?

[@Pichulover69]

Bu…bu…but the twelve year olds who have no experience with the game watching this because “funny block man” would get mad. We can have that. The actual players who work hard to get to where they are need to suffer. Point being TO’s are cowards and will never do it unfortunately.

[@vzy8354]

Please stop that, Steve ruins the game

[@Niojoki]

That first match was a pain to watch fr

[@DeepSIeep]

Steve is shameful.

[@ragames7320]

How does tweeks kum taste like