Wukong, but it's Lore Accurate | Doom Bot Wukong |

[@JujuStreame]

ekkological might have spent a little bit of time playing Blackmyth

[@danyang1613]

Literally the BM version of wukong😂

[@ardabruh1340]

Honestly you don't even need to play the game, there are multiple movies that portray his abilities way better than how League portrays him, Like Wu-Kong produced in 2017, I'm just say League Wukong doesn't have any animal transformations

[@kappachino3431]

Smite got him right tho, annoying monkey and dota2 he just raid boss

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@kappachino3431 Dota2's version is the closest to the sources, tho.

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@ardabruh1340 Out of all MOBA. League have the worse version of wukong in term of referance to original source.

[@qwerttz1033]

so it's basically wukong, but released in 2024

[@hangry3102]

Yep. They should seriously consider remaking older champions kits like this who aren't as popular like Wukong. Instead of making new more complex champions which overshadow them.

[@justin9561]

@@hangry3102 riot doesnt understand that reworking a hero will also make people buy skins. a proper rework has almost the same effect as a new hero.

[@estebanfernandezrodriguez4271]

@@justin9561 yeah my blitz need a rework his w has a debuff on movement speed his cd in early levels are to long, his basic damage is non existent. his passive is shit it give a small shield smaller than the passive ability of thing like poppy shield from an active ability and takes to long to get back up. While champions like poppy and ambessa can spam shield every other second.

[@kefireszon]

This is 342 years of gaming design and balance

[@literalspaceglider]

I see what you did there👌🏻

[@Tusike94]

NOICE

[@dodoking1666]

500 years actually

[@MTLbwy]

rajot have to hire this man

[@railtracer4189]

345

[@nexotron1529]

Nice use of Blackmyth Wukong moveset 😁

[@KARPAK-TV]

true but it genuinely works haha

[@blackwomangamer2637]

Its almost like black myth wukong got it from somewhere...

[@Tan-ly2dz]

@@blackwomangamer2637from the myth bro read it

[@kevinbutkevin5561]

Gain reading comprehension please ​@@Tan-ly2dz

[@GK-cv8cz]

​@@Tan-ly2dz no shit sherlock

[@edwardsong5199]

The idea for Q and the idea for the passive feel really reminiscent to the skills of Monkey King in DOTA 2.

[@Mexaze_]

Oh yeah the broken Boundless Strike that stack with your damage and critical as well...😂😂😂

[@Sluchayniy]

@@Mexaze_ yeah, dota and lol have different laws to work by

[@Mexaze_]

@@Sluchayniy I like the way Wukong everytime he transform into anything he literally roasted Lycan, "Lycan got one transformation, I got 72.", Literally Neeko...😂😂😂

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@Sluchayniy Well ability in both games can be very similar, tho. Neeko's passive is basically wukong's passive in dota2.

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@Mexaze_ It might sound cool and all. But the 72 transformations isn't about transforming into animals or stuffs. It's more accurate to call it 72 spells.

[@raghavpant6846]

Loving the changes to the format as the series goes on! Maybe titling it a "Doom Bot Spotlight" could be fun?

[@ApexGale]

its so funny that league effectively started the trend of putting wukong in a moba but every other moba made after has made a way more fun wukong

[@fish-kt4iq]

Phantom Lancer was the original though, his entire concept was monkey king but they chose to imported the Kimahri Ronso model from final fantasy.

[@attackerprocf9218]

​@@fish-kt4iqphantom lancer is an orc in warcraft 3/ dota 1, wukong in league of legends is the first

[@pnoodl3s775]

@@attackerprocf9218 do you have reading comprehension problem?

[@kaaaydokeeey]

​@@attackerprocf9218i think wukong alr created on dota 1 but they not released yet, and long short story they choose to releasing it on league, but its better thou dota 1 cant handle the concept of monkey king now in dota 2 (in my opinion) sorry for my bad english xD

[@RealStayUpdated]

Wukong was on Dota 1 already, league didnt start anything new with him.

[@flamechicken415]

this is the respect Wukong deserves not just as a champion but as a character entirely, its also very ironic how Riot has refused this champions relevance for a decade mirroring just like how Sun Wukong was treated in Chinese Mythology lol... He is barely known in the lore and theyve always refused to elaborate or write more about his character in the story... for a champion released all the way back in 2011 he has zero special interactions with any champions not even other Ionians

[@piece-kun4168]

TBF wild rift wukong got the buff of clone following last command. Another rone Inthe bucket of wild rift being just a better game.

[@nasrclips2757]

in Legends of Runeterra, Master Yi has another student who is envious of Wukong and wishes to be as successful as him :(

[@JustSemiCMI]

maybe wukong is involved in some spaggetti codes

[@chinhkiennguyen4063]

Bro, how can this champ balance then?

[@marixsunnyotp3142]

I have seen Chinese players suggesting letting Wukong fight darkin with Wuji style in lore, his current lore is really a missed opportunity

[@NewPhyrexia]

It always feeled like Riots Wukong didnt really capture the awsomes of the Monky King but your Version did it so good, now im really sad that we dont have this version but just a empty shell of Sun Wukong in League ^^

[@dieptrieu6564]

An accurate version of wukong is a nightmare to balance due to how versatile his ability is. Imo, Dota2 have the best version of him in term of being faithful enough and still balancable

[@orderofshadow]

because league Wukong is not a god but just a furry Vastayan. lol

[@Gardenofsen]

Bro kinda turned into Dota 2's Monkey King

[@ritorapid]

noticed this too haha

[@yuiv4077]

or Smite Sun Wukong

[@mohammadal-hasan586]

Exact thoughts here too

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@yuiv4077 It's a mix of both and then some

[@juohan]

Its is like the combination of dota2 monkey king and the other much earlier wukong inspired hero, phantom lancer

[@metalogist5413]

this is like satire of how riot would make Wu-Kong if they created him today :D.. Super overloaded kit but I think a few of the stuff can be adopted for a cool rework for sure! Hopefully this channel gets dev attention. good job!

[@meMrFrog]

i like the passive is so unique , but he forgot the nashor and the carpator powers

[@abiansaikk4034]

It would be cool if this ability was summoning one of his atacks (the spikes or the acid spill)

[@roondoger]

It could be that void is an afront to nature doesn't give any specific buffs. Also they kind of do buff you, your team, and your minions in a few ways, sooooo balancing? I love the passive idea though. Could be interesting to time taking a specific camp for a major objective push to gain an advantage.

[@TruMaverick]

Riot: We can't change Wukong. It would cost to much Bananas. Ekkological: My journeys only beginning.

[@zackfazunila616]

this video made me realize that Dota 2 is the only moba who closely captured the essence of wukong

[@Xul-Xata]

SMITE's Wukong pretty good though

[@eriksen59]

@@Xul-Xata dota2 wukong >>>

[@alexrodrigues4775]

Heroes of newerth has the best wukong of all mobas hands down.

[@JZhR]

Finally a longer passive than aphelios

[@yeowch419]

the idea of holding an ability for a different type of villain is such a simple and good idea that I cant belive its not in league on every new champ also the whole passive thing stealing monster abilities is such a cool idea and could work as an actual ultimate for a new champion + his q being able to be recast as another skill shot is visually amazing

[@sedarium5307]

This would be a insanely dope idea for a Wukong VGU (obviously, balance it to fit the main game), i don't know why Riot hasn't hired you yet.

[@norbertszabo7405]

Cause it makes wukong too op. Inagine in a teamfight a janna ult then dashing in with a fckin r tornado also evading enemy strikes with q press when necessary. Also this would make the monkey king the hardest character in the game. Many mechanics to understand... OFC IT WOULD BE EPIC TO PLAY HIM... Just against him?

[@norbertszabo7405]

Eh if i would read... Now what i wrote stays there. I dont know too... He is clearly talented interested in game design and development. Balancing that?? Gl with that pfff... They cant balance the game properly as it is, not speaking about these mechanics. Also:Who knows what bugs would this cause... Viego, Sylas

[@LevelUp76]

@@norbertszabo7405 You know, the series is called "Doom Bot", so I guess he's aware of this being unbalanced, and did it on purpose. But even tho, every concept needs to be testet out, to make it fit. That's why it's only a concept. And the same is with bugs (but to be fair, in leagues spaghetti code everything might cause a tons of buggs)

[@norbertszabo7405]

@@LevelUp76 What the heck is a doom bot anyway? Was there a better ai before?

[@LevelUp76]

@@norbertszabo7405 There was a whole PvE game mode based on playing vs bots that were empowered version of themselves. AI was the same, but difficulty was set by giving champs empowered abilities. And that was looking something alike to those EkkoLogical designs. It wasn't ment to be ballanced. It was ment to be hard

[@SupportGapCWL]

Me: Mom can we buy Black Myth Wukong? Mom: We've got Black Myth Wukong at home Black Myth Wukong at home:

[@snowboneee6403]

4:44 Jax requiem

[@Blu_Moon_Owl]

I’ve binged play Black Myth Wukong and I like to play Wukong in League so combing the two together is just PERFECT

[@Weiin]

Another take on his abilities could go like this [Passive] Sage's Equipment: Wukong's staff, crown, and armor is now purchasable and upgradable in the shop which can be purchased at certain levels (1, 6, 11) and upgraded at 16 all three counts as one slot Crown: Bonus Regen and HP / Ability Haste at 16 Staff: Range and Atk / Omnivamp at 16 Armor: Armor and MR / Tenacity at 16 [Q] Staff: After pressing Q, it changes ur basic skills into three staff attacks Q1: Slam the staff on the enemy, stunning enemies when enhanced Q2: Push the staff, knocking back enemies, becomes a sweeping strike pushing all enemies to the side Q3: Makes Wukong untargetable, if another charge is available, leap in quick succession and cast enhanced Q1 or Q2 At 16, Q has two charges [W] Clones: Leaves 1 clone to attack the enemy while going invisible At 16, W is recastable to replace the clone and summon two additional clones [E] Nimbus Strike: Summon 3 clones to charge at random targets (W also charges at random targets) [Hold E]: Charges W clones to a single target while also rooting the enemy via cloud chains for 1 second on impact At 16, clones last longer and hold E is now a stun [R Passive] Stone Skin: Blocks 1 spell every 30 seconds Heavenly Transformations: Transform into any normal monster and gain special effects At 12, You can transform into unique monsters like red buff and at 16, epic monsters like dragon

[@dejawukong]

love the ideas :) a few of us Wukong otps have been begging for a rework for ages. Since his rework he doesnt feel like a trickster and just spams q and r it's boring and doesn't represent Sun Wukong that well. It's crazy to see you also had the idea for q being a line skillshot too. smite and dota 2 already have it and it makes the most sense to me

[@可莉-z3q]

wukong youtuber😂

[@dejawukong]

@@可莉-z3q hey I love journey to the west so why not?

[@可莉-z3q]

@@dejawukong you are asia people？

[@dejawukong]

@@可莉-z3q no i don't need to be to enjoy a book/media

[@kraiffa5878]

"That piece of iron-one small stroke proves deadly, while a light tap proves fatal! The slightest touch cracks the skin, a small rap cripples the muscles!"

[@LazarosKayoglou]

The idea of (2nd E) having up to 5 clones that last for 3 seconds (and mimics abilities with less dmg, lets say 15-20-25% of normal ability dmg) is a nice idea for an ultimate ability for a new champion or rework shaco. great work and ideas as always :)

[@tsubaki3135]

Riot have to take exemple of this vid, this can be the best rework for Wukong, this champ is unfortunately not really played. Thank you for your work btw !

[@Cell020]

I like how this is a mix of Dota 2 (Monkey King - weapon extends) and Smite (Wukong - shapeshifting to other forms). This is indeed lore accurate Wukong, if 'balancing' the champion isn't the issue. Good job, Ekkological!

[@adrianopatuzzi2771]

Best video about a concept I've ever seen. So happy about it

[@Tusike94]

Underrated AF. Hope Riot Games can see this video and think about our forgotten King.

[@charleskun06chill13]

black myth wukong type of skill set? count me in!

[@yanozera]

This passive is legit such a good concept for a champion

[@luannguyenuc4366]

Son: "mom, can I get Black Myth wukong?" Mom: "we have Black Myth wukong at home sweetie"

[@kingkonglol]

pls send this to riot so they actually turn my main into a real champ...

[@xdboygamerzxdboygamerz7467]

i played wukong for like 6 seasons cause hes the only champion thats not boring to use. And you just made some of his skills even better.

[@PassanCat]

Nimbus Strike needs a passive where flies through the whole map and ignores collisions.

[@JoshuaAguilar-fc6np]

Accurate Wukong would just stand in the middle of the map, extend his staff so far that it covers the entire map, and destroy everything with one swing.

[@Tinoupilili]

Man, you need to get into a game design team if you're not already ! Every video is so coherent and cool, of course the champions are always OP but that's the point, I'd love to see more, really nice job 😁

[@huphat5794]

He's the Destined One

[@claudiuandrei6654]

Yes

[@LookAtTheMove]

Such an interesting concept, especially what you did with the passive.

[@dakripaez1254]

Bro, I LOVE IT... There is qualiti on edition and weel thought develop of skill, i WISH they hired u

[@thaliuswarborn1148]

as someone who despises how poorly portrayed the Myth of Sun Wukong is because EVERYONE MISSES THE GODDAMN POINT besides "hehe monke with sticc :^)", this might be the best take i've ever seen on the archetype of the Monkey King. amazing work lad.

[@minhiuu4141]

Finally a champ that can do more things than ksante 😂

[@LinardsZ]

true

[@kyquocthangle4501]

a champ with a stick weight = to earth and know more than 1k spells in his lore? Yeah obviously he is better than APE champ lol

[@fad-e2840]

it's impressive how you programmed this! so much talent

[@SamsonWhippy]

Bro a wukong main can only dream these abilities come true !! WHY DID YOU MAKE THIS !! THIS IS SO GOOD !! The abilitys make sense wukongs power and trickster I feel he lacks fun abilitys to give him options to trick people in the game

[@revivedsoul1099]

Really dope, love thay he can be invulnerable with q, also his animations look great for q and r. You 4real should be working for Riot champ design team lol.

[@roondoger]

Okay, but in all seriousness a chilled out version of this would actually be so fun to play. The idea of the melee character having long range options that does more damage at max range only to be followed by a dash that makes a few clones. Awesome.

[@AV1ST]

Great robot! The pitching just keeps getting better and better! A lot of interesting options, it would be great to see from the developers such a variation and variety of possible abilities,ideas.... :< (small indie company,lol)

[@thelifeofboboy8042]

Wukong's gonna be the Invoker in LOL.

[@medelhyn1718]

Best video u do on this serie, the explainations more all ideas for the monkey king are awesome :) ty bro

[@leviskate12]

I literally was imagining this yesterday 😂 and today I get this in my recommendations

[@RedZoneCountess]

Dude are so much more creative than riot, awesome job, my dream is to work on things like that

[@Thanhtuo-jr5bc]

The only true thing i like about this is that wk ult can block projectile , cuz he spinning his weapon so fast around him self, no arrow should come close to hit him , riot should make that

[@russelpermejo2955]

animation so good, almost like its the actual in game animation, talent is impeccable

[@littlefish2944]

Amazing work my boy

[@IronKurone]

His Q look so much like its counterpart in Dota2 haha. I love it

[@MohammedMersi]

A creativity of the skills deserve to have its own game. well done

[@OrnsteinSama]

Yeah, probably this game would be called a Black Myth: Wukong

[@tinhyeu5952]

That Q animation is soooo well done. Bravo 👏

[@MidaMulti-Tool-iv3lr]

I want that passive on some champ so much. great video❤

[@soedragons3582]

8:08 That's also lore accurate (well mostly) since Sun Wukong could shoot laser beams throught his eyes

[@jamestingtat6266]

2:15 amazingly, this ability already exists in wildrift 😂

[@SaiyanGamer95]

Fun Fact: While in every version of LoL, Wukong is simply based on the legendary Monkey King and has no relation to him, in the Chinese version of the game, he's straight up the same Monkey King from Journey to the West.

[@Pixctvsff]

nice one

[@VNRG1993]

tbh the Q as a skill short while holding it similar to pantheon's Q would be really neat

[@pepelumartinez9915]

Hi! Great but one note that may help with your future ideas: With nimbus strike you want to do it instantly, so the second use (with E pressed and hold) is incompatible because there's no way to detect if the user wants to hold E or use nimbus strike instantly. It happens with abilities with no windup nor channel.

[@Dameionaruto]

i was thinking this if using Black Myth moveset, otherwise an AD version of Hwei kit. Making Q staff moves, W clone moves, E wuju moves, ULT can be what you presented.

[@gweejiahan9336]

lore accurate WK will be his ult lets him transform into any champ in the same game with all the skills excluding ult, his passive is he doesn't die instead he gets stunned and untargetable on the spot for duration of the death counter and revives on the same spot with full HP, Q change it to channel but untargetable during the channel, W increase number of clones and dash distance per level and make it so clones will seek out nearest target and not just stand on the spot, E change to nimbus which can fly over anything similar to sol but can't attack or use skills while flying.

[@DSKJr18]

Incredible as always, and keeps getting better.

[@Tasia-s1h]

It's a very interesting idea, it would be a really fun character to play by turning him into something like Hwei and Karma, interacting with different combinations. However I would punish him by reducing his damage due to such a diversity of abilities, as adding cooldowns to his abilities would be a disadvantage for him, seeing as he is a melee character. As for the passive, I think it would be too big. I would limit it to after getting a dragon soul, Wukong gets a buff on X skill. For example: - Fire dragon soul: If he blocks with his ultimate, he will reflect X% (small) damage to enemies (like a thornmail). If you choose to rotate with your ultimate, that area will be imbued with fire and will do X% damage (Like Shyvana's W). - Wind Dragon Soul: Gain the cloud, and while out of combat you will receive a speed bonus. This could also ‘help’ Wukong to be multifaceted and have different builds, for example with that mobility he could be an assassin, if he has that buff from the fire dragon, it would help him to be offtank, or if he takes the mountain, tank, etc. Maybe I've freaked out a bit, but I've been infected by this creativity. I hope Riot Games sees it and takes note!

[@CausticCaterpillar]

I really enjoy this way to do wukong... but what if his kit revolved around his clones, as this is a signiture ability that Wukong has in lore, the duplications to be a trickster. What if his ult was his clone ability and it contained charges? maybe you start with 2 charges on your first level up of the ult, then as you level your ult, you get an additional charge to a max of 5. Then replace his W with his ult, a simple spin to knock enemies up, and decrease the cast time. BUT, this is where it gets interesting, all of your additional abilities where you press and hold, those become unlocks as you level your ult as well. Similar to Kha'zix evolutions, Wukong would choose an ability to add an additional effect, and each one you described is perfect for this honestly. This way, you can have 5 clones that run around and do things, really throwing the enemies of their guard, but they all can be like 2 hit enemies, that way they are not too OP. And of course, your clones mimic you abilities, giving you a late game scaling champ who can really dominate teamfights

[@mio56]

when an Aatrox lore accurate ,the wukong one is insane but kinda like it :)

[@simzocker]

i thought how many abilities do you wanna give him? but then i remembered riots modern champion design lol

[@bezly8867]

yo that passive ability was actually crazy, imagine if he could do that in game

[@KawaiiMr.Dimples]

If we make Monkes Staff Lore Accurate. He can hit anyone in the map with that Q and the entire map would be jumping when he ults.

[@jickhertz4124]

Awesome video! Better than any 200 years of Riot haha XD

[@g3t0wn3d5]

I’ll change the ult for last stand creates a lot of illusions that’s the same item with the real wukong ! The passive is right but change it to stacking passive the more he kills and unique monster the stronger he gets .

[@reginaldbutcha4844]

I like the idea of the W. and you also have a really good point. Wukong's unique trickster trait isn't that great anymore, because new champions can do it so much better. Neeko as mentioned, but also Zoe with her R and stealing flashes and now Aurora with her little rabbit hole resets. Something about these champs being better at tricks than a literal trickster god (in myth lore) doesn't sit right with me. The same way that certain champions with certain builds have more lifesteal and survivability than a full build Vladimir, a goddamn whole hemomancer

[@trevorl860]

I really like the idea for the clone changes, and im sure it could actually be abalanced

[@MrBojsane]

Look at Wukong in Dota 2 His q is just as you suggested I would give him a playful trickster instead of dotas tree bounce

[@shokocontane594]

Lore accurate Wukong needs at least 72 spells and a unique skill that allows him to hop out of the game temporarily to ask for help from an outside entity, which grants him a unique item specifically designed to counter whoever the hell he's fighting against, meaning he needs another 168 mechanics built into his kit for 168 champions, including himself in case of a mirror match.

[@Chris-im5pq]

"elder dragon allows you to win the game." *transforms into elder then nexus blows up*

[@Kelvinwicaksonoo]

Hold E must be Surfing on the Nimbus that can pass terrain and consume mana every second, after your release the E it create smoke area that can be used for hiding an allies like akali smoke.

[@shockwave2943]

The animal morphing ability here could be a concept for a new jungler champion. just think about it, a champion that has so many ablities but the abilities she could cast is based on the jungle camps she farm is a cool idea for a champion. and the possible extra passive of this champon is when it takes down an objective (like dragon, herald or void grubs) it will be able to have a special buff for itself.

[@Yagasith]

the W idea mark the enemy and teleport its instand is brilliant please someone upvote this, it could make a great outplay yo

[@maxchen9185]

Also by pressing B, instead of tp back base, he just whips out a gourd and drink to full HP. 😂

[@Dameionaruto]

if i had some time, i'd definitely do what you just did lol i see that black myth reference

[@markstein9773]

It would be cool if Wukong's E HOLD will launch a wave of him in a straight line like Hecarim's Ultimate.

[@Riako]

I watch something like this and I'm just so incredibly invested that I almost forget this isn't canon. :(

[@carlosvillafuerte5378]

that ctrl 2 is just like monkey king in dota but instead in his bar he's on the tree

[@yashiro-qn1ot]

How has no one mentioned that this is literally the moveset of Black Myth Wukong

[@claudiuandrei6654]

Yea, it's exactly in Black Myth Wukong

[@hedgehog2565]

fck this is OP wukong if only riot would consider the 72 passive

[@JohnSwayne]

I think that the Nimbus Strike change to keep the clones around makes the most sense.

[@agentcoleson1120]

im not surprised if riot actually makes a champ this overloaded in the game. i think you may have set their champ development team back to square one😂

[@stephenwong8053]

man thi swould be such a good upgrade for wu, the e for actuall juking would be sick, the trickster tele back would be sick the q is great but the untargetable is eh but the double q is def cool and making it a skill shot makes it way better

[@Ztsakkeus]

W hold, stone thing might be Nice game mechaning in actually. E Dash + clones might be EPIC and nice addition to leag. I think i would love to see it, feels like direct counter to how new champs play is confusion. This is quite small change to one champ who could add lot of variety.

[@nukal4338]

Love that opening so much man

[@dr.prestige8120]

This actually would be cool to see, (Not every move ofc that'd be op asl) But being able to select which ones you can use at fountian maybe? For a cost, Of course.

[@carlyoung8723]

Just a reminder that League started because of a team of modders doing exactly this to Warcraft 3. Looking forward to when your game comes out!

[@ornn6177]

To much in W, make it simpler while also fun. every time you hit Q it has extended range stacking 3 times (think of k'sante Q) while also building charges like (pantheon passive)--W stays the same invis is slightly extended and using Q while W is active switches Q to a thrust stance strike which does max health Physical dmg based of charges-----E is changed to a piller stance dash which allows you to dodge attacks (like fizz) lands in an AOE and hits reduce cooldowns----R is still a spin but animation is like black myth and at the end does a wide sweep into a smash stance attack

[@Mori-man]

This feels like you just gave a good character an overloaded kit

[@mathiasblanchard6554]

Your totally right, Wukong isn't a trickster anymore, ik that its not supposed to be implemented in the game but honestly i feel like if we actually remove the 2 cast on R + tune down overall damage AND we add the change about the dash that left a clone and the clone that last a bit longer (no control no TP, i think it would be just broken) I Feel like Wukong could be so much more interesting to play and a more noticeable identity

[@Vlad-t2b3w]

Assasin combo: Max powerd Q, E for get close, wolf(when avalible), W(for the mark) them hold the ult