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A quick update on the OLED Nintendo Switch and OLED Steam Deck Burn-In tests. Should probably check those batteries too...
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[@Hambs]

Thanks for running these tests. It helped me enjoy my devices without babying them too much.

[@locust76]

I babied my LG C8 OLED and health bars and Estus Flasks still burnt in, despite all the protection features being turned on

[@langos7946]

​@@locust76Try warranty, also I'd personally not recommended buying LG TVs, for many reasons

[@locust76]

@@langos7946 warranty is up and I’ve already replaced it with a Mini-LED. OLED looks great but it’s too risky to bet thousands on “oh maybe _this_ year they’re making panels that don’t roast themselves and pixels that don’t die.” LG makes the panels in many different brands of TV so it’s almost impossible to avoid

[@Hambs]

@@locust76 That sucks. I heard some stories about burn on the 8 series LG tvs. I have a CX currently and have been using it like crazy for the past 4 years with no burn but I haven't put a substantial amount of hours into any single game.

[@samueldraws]

Takeaway 1: unrealistic circumstances. You got nothing to worry about from normal use. Takeaway 2: Take it off the charger once in a while, and don't play at full brightness. Go have fun! Thanks for doing the research 😃

[@HUYI1]

Yep, my steam deck OLED does not stay on charge once I'm done charging it, I think most devices with battery should use this caution

[@nolankanski9116]

I'm a little concerned now 😅 I tend to keep my deck on the charger most of the time because I like to use it as a console that I sometimes use portably. I guess I'll unplug it when I'm not using it

[@pavichokche]

This HAS been a wonderful experiment! Great job keeping it going

[@DaRoblin]

Experment: Invert the screenshot colors, reverse colors burn for up to 3 years. Hypothesis: You can invert colors on a device lacking burn-in protection to alleviate the artifacts some amount.

[@blarghblargh]

That is a way some early LCD displays dealt with static pictures to mitigate burn in

[@ryan20028]

Burn in isnt it actually burning in. It's more that bits of the display burn out.

[@hatguyfan22]

Man that Switch is a beast for not shutting off. What did Nintendo do to make it last like that??

[@ge2719]

It's running on a refresh of a very old chip that uses way less power than the steamdeck. It's more like a phone/tablet while the steamdeck is like a pc powered by battery.

[@tubguinace]

If I remember correctly, back in 2017 before the launch of the Switch Nintendo told some gaming outlets that they did many battery tests to come up with just the right parts and settings to make the battery as durable as possible since the Switch is meant to live in the dock where it will constantly charge, normally that's terrible for battery health.

[@allanderimini398]

The switch, while undocked, uses around 30% ~ 40% of its GPU. This way, the battery won't really be stressed and will not generate too much heat, so the battery and hardware degradation are kept to a minimum.

[@SmashyPlays]

​@@allanderimini398plus the switch was made to be constantly charging in a dock, so in a way it constantly being on charging shouldn't be that big of a deal

[@blarghblargh]

Engineering

[@TheSixthSLoT]

Wulffden playing with fire showing BotW playing on a Steam Deck. Look at what happened to Russ from Retro Game Corps.

[@SpyderGuy799]

Technically it’s not running. It’s just a picture

[@beezlebubisfly3211]

Retro game corps just showed the title screen. Nintendo is on a warpath. Glad I'm watching it before Nintendo takes it down

[@lorddeecee]

He doesn’t know 💀

[@livinlicious]

He got 2 copyright strikes, because Nintendo didnt like the general content of the video. But they needed a specific frame/image where he "violates their copyright". So they copyright striked him for showing on an original switch, an original game playing, because technically, Nintendo owns ANY publication rights for their IPs. Its like having a VLOG about you going to a casino, and Toyota copyright strikes you because their car is shown in the video (which you bought from Toyota). Thats the level of abuse of copyright system currently happening. Nintendo is criminal and should be punished.

[@troyX]

​@@livinlicious Doesn't fair use (at least in the US) protect content creators from this type of copyright abuse?

[@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089]

Dang so my launch day switch oled is 3 years old.. Time moves way too fast

[@marco24117]

It should be 4 if its lunch day OLED because It was released One 2020 something like thay

[@ducksfolif977]

I love these typos lol

[@ghostsandwich1867]

Mine is almost 5 years old

[@somethingsomethingveryclever]

13:56 well you don't know my weekend plans

[@zsjdddfw]

It was that exact video you made that helped me get over the fear and make the decision to get a Switch OLED and a Deck OLED. I enjoyed the beautiful colors of Super Mario Wonders, Mario and Rabbids, Afterimage, and many other games. Thank you.

[@rhyno6264]

So much has happened in the 3 years since your original video. Thanks for giving me a reminder to reflect on all of that and making great videos in all of that time too!

[@calebbritannia6283]

As a super valve glazer and someone who spends a lot of time being dissapointed in Nintendo. This series is a huge eye opener, the switch is absolutely designed to last. I know people who treat their switches super poorly and they will just survive anything.

[@guestc142]

They've come a long way since they moved manufacturing to china in 2004 (Nintendo ds)

[@Unexpectedstuff]

Tbh I was lucky enough not to get any joycon drift on any switch device, but most of my stick caps are dying - and they’re fine on any other game pad. That would be fine if there were at least some good stick cap replacements, most of this are crap and you can’t even find some color options, like basic light grey switch lite caps.

[@richardhobson7724]

My kids have "Murdered" 2 switches now, and let's not talk about how many joycon's at 80 Canadian peso's I've had to buy over the years. Some last, some don't that goes for any device!

[@erikmacaluso]

I've left mine completely uncharged for a year in a car through hot and cold seasons, left it on the dock with image up on a TV screen for days, thing just keeps trucking

[@KiraSlith]

The screen is built to last, the battery is just average for what we used to have in most devices in the 2010s, the rest of it... Not so much. There have been tons of problems with drop deaths, the cheap frame melting and spreading in the dock over time, the infamous Joycons (The only controllers in my household that still work properly is a pair of Hori v1s and some cheap generic pro controller clones, with 4 joycons and two Lites that ALL drift miserably), and older Switch models have thermal issues you just won't know about without modding until it causes hardware faults and lag.

[@Mati-kun]

Thank you for the update and a Happy Anniversary of the experiment!

[@Cynim]

It’s really cool you went through with this for three years! I’ve been using my OLED Switch since its launch fairly often in handheld mode, and I have absolutely zero burn-in.

[@lilrockstar77]

Yo is that a replica Sonic Ice-cream in the background LMAO 😅🤣🤣

[@fireswarmdragonp]

I wonder if the reason the switch has retained battery life better is some sort of optimization to do with the dock, like Nintendo probably designed it to work with extended dock use

[@TheBlueArcher]

For the battery thing, The two extremes (100% and 0%) are the worst for lithium ion batteries. That's why operating systems that have battery protection stop charging devices at somewhere between 70-80%. Another thing is that software/firmware is almost always programmed to recognize something less than 100% charge as 100% charge. Again, as a battery protection measure. Because fully charging to "actual" 100% would cause batteries to die WAAAAY too soon for regular consumers on nearly any product. So If your software doesn't have battery protection, and you can't keep an eye on / forget to monitor the charge, It's better to have it on full charge rather than 0%. Also, check the battery level of new devices. they are often charged to exactly 50%. This is what nearly every manufacturer recommends for long term storage for batteries. If I were to guess, I would guess that the steam deck tried to push the upper limit of their full charge to get good reviews / advertise longer battery life, but went too far and that's why the steam deck won't stay on anymore.

[@WyvernDotRed]

The Steam Deck disables charging at 100%, until the battery dips below 95%. Otherwise, only an emergency shutdown and refusal to start if the battery is empty. But it's battery management is quite poor, charging it with a 5W port actually drains the battery. It can slowly charge at 10W, so anything but a PC port will charge the Deck fine.

[@TheBlueArcher]

@@WyvernDotRed I was talking about something completely unrelated to that. What I meant by the 100% thing is that the software/firmware will undercharge based off the manufacturer's recommendation/specification. eg. manufacturer says 4.25v is max recommendation, but 100% will often be something like 4.1 or even 4.0v. Just to give more headroom to preserve battery life. That number is a bit arbitrary. and my (admittedly, relatively uneducated) guess. is that to advertise more hours per charge, they stretched it by recognizing something much closer to the recommendation (4.25 in that example) as 100%. I guess if they were really risky they might even overcharge and recognize something like 4.3 as 100%. My point was "100%" is a bit of an arbitrary point, and the higher that point is, the worse it is for battery life. We don't know -- unless published or reverse engineered, at what point they set that mark. So even if everything appears equal technically, there's still that "hidden" stat that can have a pretty drastic effect on the useful life of a battery.

[@carloduarte9870]

This is the only channel on KZbin where I find ads fun to watch 😂

[@AmoraScripting]

The funnier part is that I quite literally just bought the exact powerbank in the ad yesterday. Still waiting for Amazon to deliver it in a few hours 😂

[@bart2865]

Me too, his ads is really cool

[@signa8]

Internet Historian blows all of this out of the water though. I'm always laughing as hard at the ads as the rest of the content

[@ToyKeeper]

I love seeing this kind of real-world stress testing. I feel sad for the devices themselves, but your sacrifice gives the world useful info! About batteries though... if you're going to keep a device plugged in for a long time, try to make sure it stops charging at like 60%. Linux has some kernel controls for this on many devices, but I'm not sure if the Steamdeck kernel supports it. Needs to be way more common, to encourage long-term battery health.

[@M_CFV]

it supports it

[@bigload6]

3 years is wild! My switch OLED is still going strong, traded my steam deck out for a legion go and having such a better experience. Normally just have my legion go set up on my table side plugged in, going to have to take it off every now and then 😂

[@freescape08]

6:05 You missed the worst one of all: TV OLED tvs were a huge problem for anyone who was accustomed to the background noise of news, or the Yule log channel as it ruined your day when a year later, you wanted to watch a movie and the bottom row was dim, or there was a dark patch right where the person's face sits in the close-up. Also, phones were the reason OLEDs got popular and even had the chance to improve. Nobody needs a phone screen on for more than a couple hours a day, and most didn't last more than a couple years without being dropped anyway.

[@andremalerba5281]

My Galaxy Note 9 had the white G circle from the old Gboard burned in the screen + a squared box right above the keyboard which I believe might be some text box or whatever, couldn't figure it out and it was only after 2 years of use. Also, if you use a lanyard all the time you'll never drop your phone EVER so the screen won't ever crack

[@labman472011]

Update time! Been switch waiting for this

[@Madblaster6]

This is why I download games in desktop mode in the Steam Deck. It lets the screen turn off without interrupting the download.

[@Ziondood]

That barista doesn’t know what they’re missing out on with Aero!

[@lego_minifig]

?

[@godminnette2]

Android has a mode you can enable to aid in battery health even when the device is plugged in 100% of the time. I have it on for my kitchen tablet. These dockable handhelds should have similar settings.

[@DeathlyPrice]

It's funny how you've shown that OLEDs can be good now, but I'm using a 2023 LG C3 OLED, and I've got a case of Burn In (Out?), from watching a ton of CinemaScope Movies on it over the course of 4 months., the top and bottom borders from the films resulted in the top and bottom of the screen not being Lit, so they are way brighter than the space the Movies were shown in, meaning now when I play games I can notice where the borders were. I Got the TV in April, and it's now Burned in as of September (When I noticed it)

[@kev1nno]

Linus Tech Tips had a similar issue with using an LG C1 as a computer monitor after just a few months too IIRC. Definitely seems like not all OLED screens are made equal when it comes to burn-in

[@MGMan37]

TVs probably get fucked harder because they have way higher HDR brightness

[@blarghblargh]

Yeah it's definitely not all OLED screens

[@DeathlyPrice]

@@MGMan37 the worst part here is, I don't use HDR, but the borders are SUPER Noticeable when my PS5 enables HDR :D

[@Nova2127U]

@@MGMan37 Yeah, HDR Brightness makes the LEDs run harder, and thus, quicker burn out. SDR-only panels like the Switch OLED, that don't get very bright, are not going to be easily susceptible to the burn out, atleast, under normal circumstances. the LG C3 OLED is doing about 800 nits HDR which is a significant jump and almost the Steam Deck OLED's HDR brightness, which you can see from the Phawx, it burned out quickly at that high brightness. If they're using their TV in only SDR, then it shouldn't burn out as quickly, similar to the Switch.

[@hugevibez]

So the problem with both your test and the Phawx's is that they do not account for the OLED panel refresh cycles or image retention. Rtings does the most reliable testing in terms of burn-in on OLEDs, and they turn off their panels every day for a few hours (automatically) to make sure the panel refresh cycles engage when they need to. Their reasoning for as to why is as follows (more detail in their video "8 Month Update! Burn-in vs Image retention"): Image retention is something else entirely than burn-in. Image retention is cause by either a pixel getting too warm, turning it off will let it cool down and make image retention disappear, or by something that is known as tft treshold voltage shift. TFT, or Thin Film Transistor, is a layer behind the layer of organic LEDs that basically control when the individual LEDS turn on and some of them can sometimes drift, which causes image retention. Every once and a while, every few hours usually after you turn it off, your panel will do a quick refresh of all the leds to clear any of this drift and help the panel cool down. OLED monitors even ask you to do this via an on-screen prompt. Image retention is completely normal and impermanent, however it is likely that image retention if left unchecked does accelerate real burn-in. Real burn-in, or Electroluminescent Layer Degradation, is the organic LEDs losing their brightness over time. Every 500 hours or so the panel will engage in a long refresh cycle to even out this brightness ever so slightly. If you never engage these cycles, then sure enough after 1000 hours you can see the first signs of burn-in. Make no mistake, I'm not an OLED evangelist and I think the lifespan of OLEDs is simply not good enough for static use like laptops or monitors (and is only slated to get lower with Phosphorescent OLEDs), just these tests are not really representative at all. The best way to test for burn-in, is to make sure the refresh cycles engage (never cut power to your OLED tv, but only turn it off using the remote button on the TV), and then measure the brightness output of various parts of the display over time. I'm sure the brightness degradation won't be pretty.

[@MGMan37]

He explained that the deck and switch have no such refresh functions.

[@PlantMan5823]

Can't wait to see them in 5 years

[@Dipper1459]

At least Valve made it easier to replace the OLED screen if it did get too bad and need replacing, which I doubt will happen for 99% of people.

[@tubguinace]

Unfortunately the battery is still very risky to replace on the Steam Deck though if I'm not mistaken.

[@LARVideos]

@@tubguinace They made it easier with the OLED. I think they used less glue.

[@CMFOT]

If the screens on my handhelds need replacing I’m paying someone to fix it. Screw that job bro

[@CoolProgramer123]

I have followed this since the beginning! Great series

[@Xenado22]

Moral of the story, don't leave Breath of the Wild on for longer than 5000 hours

[@hikkamorii]

My first OLED phone that I've got was an iPhone 12 Pro, still rocking it. After 4 or so years, I've noticed slight burn-in in the top area (where you see clock, battery status, etc.). I didn't expect OLEDs to be so robust, especially when I've seen people in my school with Samsung S3s and S4s that were so burned, they would show magenta instead of white sometimes.

[@shyonae]

Yellow Taxi Goes Vroom is a fantastic game dude, was there for a sec but I saw it!!

[@dehasim]

He even told the name of the game xD

[@glasssawsslipperstraws7410]

I remember my first laptop i ever had i had it constantly plugged in and the it murdered the battery in the same way. it was a very good lesson in battery health for me. drain that battery every now and then.

[@dejct]

Super informative video. The Steam deck battery dying would have worried me, but my laptop battery did the exact same thing like a few months ago and then I learned its pretty normal if you leave shit charging/plugged in all the time. I am very surprised the switch's battery is still going lol

[@lego_minifig]

For the Steam Deck I heard that it is best to keep the console plugged in when not in use. There is some sort of bug or defect can prevent Decks from turning back on if the battery fully dies. I don’t think its too common, but its common enough to have had multiple users report the issue.

[@gustavovazquez1660]

Can’t wait for the video of that goddamn clock, and how you’ll turn it into a handled emulator

[@LordHonkInc]

The first time I heard about Nintendo hardware quality was when it came to the OG Gameboy, which (iirc) had to survive ten drops from the height of a suit jacket inner pocket because Nintendo thought that was the most likely place adults would carry it. Then of course there's the legendary Gameboy still running Tetris in (I think) the NYC Nintendo office after it survived a bombing in Iraq. I'm not surprised at the quality of Nintendo hardware, I'm surprised they managed to keep their standards this high for over fourty years (exceptions like Joycon drift nonwithstanding).

[@MousaThe14]

Yeah, people made “Nintendium” jokes since I was a kid because of this, and I think the joke has held true basically through even the DS and 3DS, hinge not withstanding but moving parts are the point of weakness of anything.

[@jat9926]

God you always have so many cool tech gadgets to buy whether it’s power banks or what. On my wish list now.

[@AssassinsFear]

There is a setting in the steak deck to disable the battery if you're going to keep it docked for a long time to prevent battery degrading

[@blarghblargh]

You and I eat very different steak

[@VagrantValmar]

Should you use that if you turn it off every once in a while but always use it docked? Same question for laptops.

[@ChiefChakra]

the melting Sonic popsicle is hilarious lol

[@langos7946]

And if anyone is still worried about Your favourite game having a high contrast HUD, there's a good chance these days that this game has some HUD effects, like shaking during impact etc. that'll also reduce the chance of it burning in

[@FBracht]

03:07 - Is that Armored Core? And, more importantly, is that Armored Core running at a seemingly super smooth 60fps?

[@Wigwamo]

"Oled technology is not like it use to be" tell that to all the oled phones from last year that already have burn in

[@Atom1794]

16:20 HE SAID NINTENDO SWITCH 2 EVERYBODY!! SOUND THE ALARMS /s

[@pip5528]

I suspect mobile OLED technology is somehow better than that of TVs and monitors because it doesn't change brightness based on what's on-screen or seem particularly susceptible to burn in. I've never gotten burn-in on my Pixel 4a of 3 years with heavy use and certainly not my Switch OLED of 2 years with light use. Currently I mainly watch a lot of things on my S22 Ultra with an AMOLED at half brightness. I didn't even know the brightness fluctuations of desktop OLEDs were even a thing until I researched OLED monitors a few months ago. I mainly use IPS and CRT at home. The CRTs don't have burn-in either.

[@Nova2127U]

CRTs kind of do have burn out, but in a different way, the maximum brightness gets lower as they age since the electron guns/heated cathode get less effective at producing light, so it's the entire panel instead of certain pixels like OLED.

[@MrLinkDay]

Nintendo has some dark magic with batteries that is for sure. I have a 20yo GBA SP that I used so much, the original battery still goes on for 5 to 6h.

[@SireDragonChester]

Hate that these devices are Always charging the battery. They should have way turn that off so battery isn’t alway being charged.

[@BladeEXE67]

It's crazy that we still don't have intelligent power and charging management. I am always worried about my Switch chilling in its dock getting murdered or consoles that I don't use that much and forget to charge every once in a while like a PSP. The Switch actually handles this pretty well, I had a Switch lite turned off for months and it turned on with 99% battery left and played for the expected amount of time.

[@MrNineties]

I remember a lot of hubbub about leaving SteamDeck connected to power. Something to do with the power delivery implementation I believe.

[@0cellusDS]

Well crap, that battery thingy is scary. I use my Steam Deck as a docked gaming PC almost every day. But I'd still like it to retain its portability.

[@ImaginAqua]

Thankfully with the Steam Deck you can at least buy a replacement battery and switch it out.

[@rcmatheus02]

Bro, you're insane! I would NEVER let two gaming devices sitting in the charger 24/7, at full brightness. Those two batteries are so stressed out and ready to 🔥.

[@michaelmenard9805]

No.

[@llamadrama1090]

the switch one idk but the steam deck one is just "dead"

[@michaelmenard9805]

@llamadrama1090 no. even reading my comment you say this dumb shit.

[@bgjck]

I use my Switch OLED in TV mode most of the time when I'm at home so I'm not using the OLED screen all the time

[@Jeissecastillo]

Obviously this is a non issue for both devices, but I do find it interesting that the battery just died completely on the deck. I feel like Nintendo built a better device overall than Steam did.

[@lego_minifig]

Have you held a Deck? This is not an attack, I am genuinely curious if you came to that conclusion having experienced both. If you have, I would love to hear the main features that led to your reasoning. In my experience, the Deck has the best controller I have ever used both in usecase diversity and in materials. The Joysticks in particular feel amazing. The only feature I think other controllers do better is the rumble. The rumble on the deck feels a little exaggerated, but then again that could be due to the ports not being optimized for the hardware. The build quality also feels way more premium in the hand to me, though that may just be an illusion as it does not have detachable controllers to make it feel less solid. Though I do have to give the Switch some props. It has held up well to the abuse. It is also typically easier to carry around, though I personally find it so uncomfortable to hold that I have to put a grip on it which basically makes it the same size as the Deck.

[@mr.shplorb662]

Definitely equals in terms of quality, just in different places

[@blarghblargh]

Nintendo underclocked hardware that was already low tech and cheap by the time it came out. Valve are pushing their hardware a little bit more. It's not "better" or "worse". It's a different set of tradeoffs, which affect longevity under harsh conditions, and performance during gameplay. It's not surprising. If you use your hardware under normal conditions, the steam deck won't have reduced longevity. If you give the hardware to a child and they're prone to leaving it in the sun, powered on, then a switch is the obvious choice.

[@tpf92]

1:59 I've had my Steam Deck for a bit over 2 years, its been plugged in basically 99% of that time and it the "battery bloat", was rather disappointed to see it, haven't replaced it yet but probably should sooner rather than later but I'm not liking the prices of replacement batteries (ifixit wants $95!).

[@nickentros]

I also have an Ayaneo handheld, the Ayaneo Geek 6800U and I'd been using it as a docked PC for 3D design at my office. Had it for about a year. Also a bloated battery. I instead bought a mini PC with a 7840U and am going to have to replace that battery

[@cinemavanya]

Bold move to show BoTW on that Steam Deck in current youtube circumstances... but you can probably say that it just a video and not a gameplay...

[@labman472011]

My phone has horrible burn in because I use it every day for navigation. I've had it for 4 years and it started showing burn in after 6 months or so, and it's only gotten worse

[@olexeyhmelove]

I have cheap OLED Phone that is years old (It's Google Pixel 3a). I used him for same programs a lot and his screen is perfect. So it's kinda your phone thing i guess.

[@labman472011]

@@olexeyhmelove oh maybe. It's a 7t pro McLaren from OnePlus and it hasn't been the best of phones, but it hasn't completely died on me yet

[@thedualitysystem]

Oh nooo we might have to start using screensavers again. What a terrible thing I definitely don't want back.

[@Xanduur]

Two things…firstly, I don’t need to worry about burn in, secondly, when you were squinting in you battery charger add you looked and sounded like Gilbert Godfrey.

[@pseudonymous1382]

I think a better test to simulate more realistic usage would have been to put a rubber band between both analog sticks so that the camera is constantly moving. This test doesn't really give a realistic idea of what sort of usage would result in burn in.

[@caboosepaul]

bro showing one of my top 5 favorite SNES games as a (4:45) Genesis game? :o

[@tomm2639]

You need to pause Sonic with the chaos emeralds on screen to burn in at faster speeds apparently

[@gabrielmoreirabr]

I've been here since the beginning

[@BigDStudios]

Virtual Glasses are the next way to Play Games. It's going to be something rivaling Hover Cars in which we have the technology, the question is how to market and release it to the public without getting sued for the many deaths it'll cause....

[@alexprach]

I heard OLED screens burn in faster with higher temperatures, so maybe check the temperature on the device itself, the Steam Deck probably runs hotter than the Switch OLED. Which might explain faster burn in.

[@CLouDBRoS]

I have an old android tablet that my parents use as a monitor for their security cam, they just leave It turn on whenever they are in the room. I rooted that device and installed a battery mod app that charges the battery to 80%, stops charging and restarts the charging when the battery drops to 15% to avoid having it at 100% all the time. While I still don't have a steam deck, I would imagine that there are similar modules to control and monitor the battery charges.

[@Obscuros88]

This video epitomizes conspicoius consumption. Had enough money and time to have spare oled devices run for a year. Will now go and run my windshield wipers until they fall apart.

[@Chris.Batchelor]

Me keeping my Rog Ally in sleep mode on a dock all the time 😬

[@asov3x]

3 years already? wow

[@AndrewTSq]

The way OLED is made, makes it will "burn in" . Its not really burn in, its the pixel that becomes weaker and weaker.

[@MGMan37]

Semantics, everyone knows what it means when you say an OLED screen is burned in

[@xephox85]

Well, i guess its good to know my suspicions of leaving the Steamdeck in a dock 24/7 where correct. I usually have my switch in the dock cuz I know it won't harm it, but I never leave my Steamdeck in the dock because it doesn't seem to stop supplying power to the battery like the switch does.

[@mmpsp693]

I can only assume Nintendo has very cautious limits for SOC to prevent capacity loss. Even my DSi still have pretty decent battery lives after decades.

[@xephox85]

@@mmpsp693 now that you mention it, my DS lite still holds up battery so maybe? 🤔

[@mmpsp693]

@@xephox85 my DS Lite is probably the worse, but maybe 3-4 hours at high brightness.

[@drcatjailofficial3735]

I let mine drain bf even with powertools sometimes it charges past 80

[@hikkamorii]

@@mmpsp693 I'm in the same camp, I don't know for how long battery in my DSi lasted when it was new, but the fact you can get pretty good amount of gaming on a battery that is almost 18 years old is very impressive.

[@pixelsandwich4104]

Wheres all the people that said "don't get a switch OLED cause of burn in"

[@Starsaber97]

Look I know that you think that you did the experiment right when it comes to the switch oled. However you should have had a second 30 capture of a smash ultimate match rerunning for a long time as that would get a far more accurate test of oled burn in and not just a static image.

[@meowth900]

Hi Bob! Will you review the Alarmo system?

[@MrSteveOp_]

It's still alive 😲

[@DogBlessGeesus]

Great video, this really builds my confidence in current gen OLED technology. Any chance you'd be willing to sell your OLED Steam Deck that won't hold a charge? I've always wanted one and imagine this one would be a better deal ;)

[@MGMan37]

Does your OLED deck have a purple smear effect? This is where pixels that were off are slow to turn on, leaving a purple trail behind black objects as they move on the screen I see this in dark games such as RE4 remake, or television screens in the opening bedrooms in Portal 2

[@jayrdee8929]

I wonder what his electricity bill looks like 😅

[@ngwoo]

Both of these devices together use about half the electricity of an incandescent light bulb

[@Brixster]

It's the equivalent of leaving a few light bulbs on. So basically, nothing at all.

[@wulffdendad8957]

Well they do say you gotta feel the burn ! I hope you had a fire extinguisher at the ready ! # wulffdendad

[@dannonyogurt98]

Its too bad that no one is running the test on the special edition Steam Deck. They are using a different OLED panel that are apparently better. Moded special edition Decks can overdrive the panel up to 120fps

[@O247G]

I wouldnt be surprised if mankind stops existing and some aliens arrive at earth to find random nintendo switches around as one of the last evidence of humanity

[@neru_d]

Armored Core spotted. happi. very.

[@bsmarques]

Oh man, you cannot use iPhone (that has image processing) for video to show contrast, it screws the algorithm that is raising contrast (unless it was log)

[@PatatexJok3rZ]

So you didnt had power outage for 3 years ?

[@MysteriousVampLover]

Thank you for doing this experiment and for the wonderful video. For the ugreen Nexon power bank, which would you recommend for a ROG Alloy user or a Steam Deck user?

[@anthonigrande]

you have your phone grayscaled? i have a vague thought you mentioned something like that on twitter, could you tell us the reason behind it?

[@Emulation_Inflation]

Yay!

[@GameHoardGoblin]

6:39 eyyo I just beat this game on PS5

[@darkkrimsonTV]

New Test: Invert the image and see if it balances out.

[@GO-tq6hs]

ive used an OLED tv for my desktop monitor for like 3 years now and ive definitely gotten some occasional light burn in. The biggest thing I found is dont run the display at max brightness (I run mine at like 85% and its still super bright), and just be careful with HDR esp with games with static UI's. That being said TV's have way more features to negate the stuff so whenever i start to notice any bad image retention (most noticeable when shutting down windows on that gray screen), I just run the pixel cleaner and its fine. I do it maybe once every 3-4 months and its usually because I was playing some game with HDR for like 8-10 hour sessions multiple times a week.

[@MobiusGT]

ive had multiple oled phones that had the on screen keyboards burn in or the home screen burn in. I think its just a luck of the draw. So i still am very concerned about burn in of my devices

[@HasanBabasi]

I am watching this video with my 9 month old daughter and she has been clapping while watching so i guess that deserves a like.

[@aj2feet]

imagine Nintendo strikes your channel for showing link on a steam deck :p

[@joeybalacko4719]

change the battery in the steam deck I had the same issue with my first generation steam deck, LCD the battery just died the steam deck doesn’t discharge to 80 and then recharge to 100 it doesn’t even discharge. It just keeps topping the battery off, which is overcharging the battery which is killing the battery cells.

[@FirstAmendmentComedy]

That Switch just wants to be put out of its misery at this point 😂

[@extenos]

6:12 not every one, im pretty sure the 11 has an lcd

[@TDAdvocate]

My problem is how steam deck doesn't have charge protection. I expect it from a lazy company like android at this point. But valve of all people should know how important battery protection is for portable devices. I noticed immediately with my LCD model that it had no protection and stopped even charging it if I wasn't around because I knew it would destroy the battery. Its crazy lazy development. My oled I baby even more since I know I won't be able to replace any time soon. Valve needs to do better.

[@kapikapisun]

Thank God

[@omarpixel9176]

I can't believe this is still going on LOL

[@Jerome-iwnl]

Would it burn in faster if the game was actually running and causing the device to heat up more? Is burn in affected by heat?