WW1 Trench Knives & Daggers IN USE

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WW1 trench knives and daggers in use, as featured in period British newspaper accounts.
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@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
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@arnijulian6241
@arnijulian6241 2 жыл бұрын
The make shift trench maces are quite interesting! I'm surprised their was no mention of the standard British trenching tool as an improvised weapon. A shaft of wood with a brass band to attach different multi tools.
@KincadeCeltoSlav
@KincadeCeltoSlav 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE WELSH TRENCH SWORD!!!!
@BUZZKILLJRJR
@BUZZKILLJRJR 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't go back to useing Cain mail or some form of stab armor
@BUZZKILLJRJR
@BUZZKILLJRJR 2 жыл бұрын
Also very cool advice. Aim for the face if you want to win a knife fight
@douglassharp108
@douglassharp108 2 жыл бұрын
I got stabbed by an insurgent with a trench knife in Baghdad ‘05, he came from behind and his knife point was stopped dead by my body armor. Just as I realized someone was behind me and before I could react my buddy put a burst in his noggin. It was one of those WW2 brit commando knives. Lots of old brit weapons found in my time in Iraq.
@MrWayne1701
@MrWayne1701 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a picture of a soldier holding an M-1 Garand that they got from some Afghan cave...
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrWayne1701 There was actually Taliban that still were using functional Martini Henry rifles. Pretty crazy.
@Greggah
@Greggah 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the wild part of clan cultures- lots of fighting, never enough internal stability to improve industry and actually make firearms.
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 2 жыл бұрын
Kevlar kicks ass. Was it an interceptor vest with the giant collar and throat protector?
@douglassharp108
@douglassharp108 2 жыл бұрын
@@cascadianrangers728 yup plus esapi plates and a urine stained crotch flap
@Rakadis
@Rakadis 2 жыл бұрын
As a Sergeant of mine said on many years ago when confronted on the fact that he carried a knife strapped to his pistol holster. "Sir, I would rather carry the weight of this piece of steel for the rest of my life and not have need for it, than need it once and not have it..."
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
That and knives are useful even in everyday life. I can’t count how many packages I cut open or how many cans or other similar containers I had to pry or cut open with my cheap Chinese made edc knife.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 2 жыл бұрын
Sound like excellent advice.
@randyogburn2498
@randyogburn2498 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about a decent pocket knife. It serves many purposes & is still there "just in case". BTW it's perfectly legal where I live.
@quentinmichel7581
@quentinmichel7581 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a perfect argument for carrying a handgun as well. 😁
@johnnelson3158
@johnnelson3158 2 жыл бұрын
@@quentinmichel7581 or even a long gun
@taylorlibby7642
@taylorlibby7642 2 жыл бұрын
I inherited one of the brass-knuckle type daggers from my grandfather (who carried it in the Pacific in WWII), who inherited it from his father (who carried it in WWI). It's an intimidating piece of equipment even just sitting there by itself.
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- 2 жыл бұрын
You are one lucky dude, besides the obvious sentimental and family value, those knives are quite rare and sought after by collectors.
@taylorlibby7642
@taylorlibby7642 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Zevin- Yeah I am! I have them as my ancestors!😁
@leighhutton8657
@leighhutton8657 2 жыл бұрын
My friend had one but the blade was more the size of a Gladius short sword than a dagger
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorlibby7642 I have a family knife story too, My grandfather was in the 34 division I company, North Africa, Italy, later was in France at the end of the war after being punished for getting into a fight with his CO while he was on a war bond and radio speaking tour back home. He acquired a Nazi SS Dagger from a fallen officer. He had the knife in a trunk his entire life, I never even saw it, he didn't like to talk about the war, and he passed away when I was very young. My grandmother kept that knife locked away, but I remember stories about it from my dad. I wanted that knife because of the family history and rarity of it. When I was in high school I asked my grandma about it, she was really surprised, she thought nobody would want that old evil thing anyway, (she was a older Jewish woman. ) Turns out she sold it to someone at a yard sale for $20....
@jasonguest5820
@jasonguest5820 2 жыл бұрын
have photos up anywhere? That's an awesome piece of history.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
In a german weapons magazin was written: We think, most blades of trench knifes saw more saussage fat than human blood.
@David0lyle
@David0lyle 2 жыл бұрын
Well, getting personal to actually carry a piece of kit is actually fairly key to getting them to use the equipment. The can opener appears on a surprisingly array of equipment. 🤔 I suppose quite a bit of the food was still coming that way. Have to figure it was important.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
Of course they're going to say that-propaganda. 😉
@rangereview4590
@rangereview4590 2 жыл бұрын
But the fact that it says they had both on them though....I hope the sausage was first.
@Menuki
@Menuki Жыл бұрын
Statistically true, everyone have to eat and how many of those were cut down by artillery or machine guns before getting into melee distance. I’d still wager a significant number of soldiers died at the end of a blade
@BenjaminSpringer-z6h
@BenjaminSpringer-z6h 2 ай бұрын
Yeah honestly, halfway through the video i was thinking about how little id care to clean one after use before my dinner. - that is, if you are calm enough to eat.
@blackbadger4419
@blackbadger4419 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about everyone else, but I *love* these deep-dives into 18th/19th/20th century weapons and warfare! This is something no other channel I follow does, especially not to this level of research and articulateness (...is that a word?)!
@Tommiart
@Tommiart 2 жыл бұрын
'Articulation'...but yes, story time with Uncle Matt is one of my favourite things. I particularly enjoy how the military and the media were at pains to explain things to the public (with a smattering of propaganda of course 😁).
@tkeleth2931
@tkeleth2931 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommiart lol dammit, I will always think of this as "story time with Uncle Matt" every time there's a new video now
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakerboy8910 If you haven't seen anything from Forgotten Weapons and Inrangetv that went over and tested ww1 equipment, including an old vid of testing the German engineers sawtooth backed bayonet, as well as a great impromptu French army mutiny during Verdun, I'd suggest checking Ian McCollum out for that.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
I am german, Britta is my girlfriend. The german trench knifes can be divided in two types. Some trench knifes are clearly descendants of german bayonnets, other ones are clearly descendants of a german hunting knife ,Nicker'. In southern Germany ( Bayern, Württemberg, Baden) and Austria this knifes had been EDC knifes, still today the currently produced ,Lederhosen' have a pocket for the ,Nicker' ( but today the weapons laws are a problem) . In 1980s you sometimes could see elderly men carrying such knifes with modern cloth.
@adamyoung6797
@adamyoung6797 2 жыл бұрын
Nicker is our word, but you can say Nicka
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat 2 жыл бұрын
When did the legality become a problem? How about in the field? I can't imagine skinning a deer would be easy without a blade.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
@@CtrlAltRetreat : In 1980s only some elderly men carried such knifes as ,EDC' knife, they ( the knifes) are simply out of fashion for decades. By german law you could still carry them, if blade lenngth is shorter than 12 cm, in villages usually no problem, but not in towns/ cities.
@wavepropulsion1
@wavepropulsion1 2 жыл бұрын
I inherited a german nicker knife from father, and it was a present from a german friend. Probably the knife is over sixty years old. Hubertus actually eight centimeters blade, but probably was longer when new. Regards from Uruguay, it is my favorite knife.
@jasonguest5820
@jasonguest5820 2 жыл бұрын
“Trench fighting is the bloodiest, wildest, most brutal of all ... Of all the war's exciting moments none is so powerful as the meeting of two storm troop leaders between narrow trench walls. There's no mercy there, no going back, the blood speaks from a shrill cry of recognition that tears itself from one's breast like a nightmare.” and "“These moments of nocturnal prowling leave an indelible impression. Eyes and ears are tensed to the maximum, the rustling approach of strange feet in the tall grass in an unutterably menacing thing. Your breath comes in shallow bursts; you have to force yourself to stifle any panting or wheezing. There is a little mechanical click as the safety-catch of your pistol is taken off; the sound cuts straight through your nerves. Your teeth are grinding on the fuse-pin of the hand-grenade. The encounter will be short and murderous. You tremble with two contradictory impulses: the heightened awareness of the huntsmen, and the terror of the quarry. You are a world to yourself, saturated with the appalling aura of the savage landscape.” ― Ernst Jünger, Storm of Steel
@Stigstigster
@Stigstigster 2 жыл бұрын
The two contradictory yet simultaneous impulses of the hunter and the hunted, to paraphrase, a concept which sends a shiver down my spine. That shiver being just a fraction of one percent of what those who were there must have felt at the time. Chilling stuff.
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that there's a conscious understanding that you're about to go into a situation where there is no neutral, kill or be killed, you'll find out soon enough. The impressive bit is the acknowledgment is that he's fully aware of his position and decision to initiate rather than having the situation just happen to him even with his full awareness of the fact that he may be the prey.
@MrWayne1701
@MrWayne1701 2 жыл бұрын
What a vivid and riveting description!
@waynehatton4136
@waynehatton4136 2 жыл бұрын
Junger was the real deal!
@lordmars2387
@lordmars2387 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and evocative.
@johnwolfen4243
@johnwolfen4243 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up I knew a number of men that was in WWI and WWII. Two saw combat in Europe. When I was getting a bit older and getting close to draft age (Vietnam) I went to them. I wanted their advice on knives. Both told me the same thing. Do not mess around go in and stab them as many times as you can. Don't slash unless it fits the incident. Other than that they also said carry as many socks as you can.
@Zajuts149
@Zajuts149 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the reason they were called "bombers", was that when the hand grenade was reintroduced into the British Army, the Grenadier Guards didn't want anyone else being called "grenadiers", so they became "bombers".
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
For Parade only a prussian Grenadier Guard unit used in Imperial time the high grenadiers caps of 18th century. The fronside of this caps hat been made oft sheet metal ( Blech), so the Berlin citizens called this soldiers ,Blechköppe' ( dialect!)/ the sheet metal heads.
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- 2 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason for the brutal type and often simple weapons was lack of training and the chaotic nature of the fights, imagine being 18 years old, pumped with adrenaline like you have never before felt in your life, shaking from it, quite literally "seeing red" dripping with sweat, your uniform drenched in mud and blood, Your ears are ringing, your heart is pounding out of your chest, you can feel each beat in your temples. There are severed limbs laying around your feet and bits of human remains on your face from the artillery barrage prior; now the infantry is charging your position with bayonets. Nothing in your training really prepared you for what you are now seeing, the noise of it all, your friends just moments prior turned into a red mist, the epitome of sensory overload. Under those circumstances you need brutal, simple to use weapons where the animal inside of you, the "cave man brain" whatever you want to call it, is all that is in control in that moment, fancy fencing, everything you learned in training is now for naught. Now you are just pummeling another poor scared shaking 19 year old German kid with your entrenching tool, all on instinct alone. It was a terrible war.
@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M
@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Not many people truly appreciate (or understand fully) the sheer 'reality' of the brutality. Violence like that was not even seen in the early medieval ages (aka the Dark Ages).. MAYBE, to some extent.. But not even close in regards to scale.. There were no explosives back then (EARLY middle ages, think year 500-1200). Utter brutality with knives, swords, clubs, pole axes etc.. But no humans turning to red mist, no feeling the shockwaves of shells bursting near enough to deafen you for the day, but not kill you.. But you end up with your best friend splattered all over your uniform.. Yeah.. Nobody in this era, thankfully, should ever have to experience that.. We can only hope the oxymoronically named 'Great War' was/is/will be, a military anomaly. As was the battle of Thermopile. Sparta was known for it's diplomacy.. The whole bit of being 'bred warriors' was literal propaganda from that battle that held off the Persians just long enough for Athens and the larger part of the Spartan armies to join forces and fight off the invaders in a conventional manner..
@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M
@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M 2 жыл бұрын
@UCW11flY1Xn65JhnqLX5-azA I in fact, am Christian. And I actually find those events of said wars horrible. Nobody should needlessly suffer any of that. And the Christian God forgives. Also we have Christ. Follow in His footsteps and you have a ticket to The Kingdom of Heaven.. And even for people who were born never knowing about God, or under a different religion, God still gives them a chance based on their actions in this mortal life. There is a very real possibility that all Earthly (and maybe beyond) religions are one in the same. The differences being in cultural and linguistic developments. These things are something no human can know until their time comes. And fighting in war is not considered murder, as the large part of those drafted/volunteered really have no choice in the matter. It is either fight or be killed, whether by opposing forces or your own government. Our God does not micromanage. We have the gift of free will. And that free will gives the option to choose to not believe. And still those folks are given a second chance based on how they used their mortal time. Me. I would never send anyone to their deaths. Much less in such a manner. I chose not to join the military because I would not want to have to kill another person. Should Global War break out and I were to have no other option. That would be different. And these KZbin comments sections tend to not be so friendly to Christians. I only discuss these things where appropriate. I will not deny my faith for any reason. And doing so for reasons such as 'peer pressure' or 'being judged by others' are inherently sinful actions. I wear my faith with pride.
@davidsachs4883
@davidsachs4883 2 жыл бұрын
An additional consideration. In earlier centuries a campaign might last for weeks or months with only one battle lasting less then a day. In the two world wars battles could last months with soldiers being in the front line for days or even weeks without relief. At a given point when you can hit back, you do
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
I am german, Britta is my girlfriend. My father , born 1938, had often possibility to speak with german veterans of wwl, the last one in my village died in 1997. One day he spoke with two wwl veterans. He asked the two men, what thing frightened you the most? My father thought artillry or poisson gas. To his surprise the two men said , the assaults frightened them the most. Suddenly a stranger, whom you not know, is in front of you and attacks you like thousands of years ago.
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
The best melee weapons for situations like that are ones that cater well to be swung like caveman’s club, but still have room that training martial arts can improve. My great lolo (Filipino word for grandfather) fought the Japanese in ww2. He fought them primarily with grenades, mines, and bolos (Filipino word for shortsword or machete). I can only imagine the sheer brutality and the irony that both sides felt to be fighting each other using ancient weapons and techniques in an age of machine guns, bombs, tanks, airplanes, and ships.
@joanignasi91
@joanignasi91 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Easton's innuendo powers are so strong that even actual period quotes he reads "swing the butt" towards innuendo.
@slick_slicers
@slick_slicers 2 жыл бұрын
The necessity of bringing silent death was described to me by my Grandfather. He was a pilot in WWII flying British soldiers behind the Japanese lines in a flying boat. He was issued with an FS dagger and trained in its use. The theory being that if you used a firearm, you’d bring the Japanese down on top of you. I’ve made a couple of videos of his knife and his fascinating story on my KZbin channel. From a pre-war teenage spy to a Cold War Vulcan pilot, via the small business of WWII.
@sweetdrahthaar7951
@sweetdrahthaar7951 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped the video and went to your channel. Scrolled through 20 or so videos and subbed. I’m going to enjoy it sir. Thank you👍🏻🤠
@slick_slicers
@slick_slicers 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweetdrahthaar7951 thank you, that’s very kind 😃👍
@mistahanansi2264
@mistahanansi2264 2 жыл бұрын
**Me slowly putting on sunglasses while holding a trench knife** “Thug Knife~”
@PinataOblongata
@PinataOblongata 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a trench knife was in Boardwalk Empire, wherein the character Jimmy Darmody carried one, having come back from the WW1 western front with shrapnel in his leg. Apparently, being able to fist-fight as you normally would is a large advantage in a fighting knife, so enhancing that ability with the brass knuckles then seems like a good idea. Such a brutal weapon.
@ManiacMayhem7256
@ManiacMayhem7256 11 ай бұрын
Glad someone else remembers that amazing TV series
@assaultpioneer8414
@assaultpioneer8414 2 жыл бұрын
Silent sentry take out was still a part of my infantry training back in the day. Mostly knife and garrotte
@exploatores
@exploatores 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes even a supressed pistol makes to much noise.
@jeremybriggs1707
@jeremybriggs1707 2 жыл бұрын
@@exploatores not when trying to do it quietly. Suppressors are not what you see in movies
@exploatores
@exploatores 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremybriggs1707 I know, their is a few supressed weapon that are almost hollywood quiet. but most only stops you from blowning your eardrums out. when firing indoors. with out any protection.
@jeremybriggs1707
@jeremybriggs1707 2 жыл бұрын
@@exploatores suppressed .22s and the .32 acp Welrod are the only ones that come close to the near silent movie guns that i have wver seen
@Trav_Can
@Trav_Can 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been fascinated by this topic. I would certainly be interested in more WWI videos. I thinks it's ironic that yes that war saw a return to knives, clubs, and amrour (more archaic fighting techniques), and yet it is the first modern war. Tanks and trench knives.
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 2 жыл бұрын
This was an absolute treat! I own a modern-day trench knife made by the Italian manufacturer Extrema Ratio. It's their ADRA dagger, the "Parade" model to be exact.
@enscroggs
@enscroggs 2 жыл бұрын
RE: Thug knife. In 1915 the term "thug" was often associated with members of a deviant Hindu sect devoted to the worship of Kali, the goddess of death, who murdered people as a religious rite. The belief and practice was called Thuggee and the adherents Thugs, which is the origin of the English word which we now generally apply to violent career criminals. The Thugs typically strangled their victims, but they also used other weapons, including knives and daggers. Perhaps by "thug knife" the 1915 writer of that article was thinking of a typically Indian style of edged weapon that was, used by the Thugs. The Raj authorities must have collected thousands of knives in the campaign to suppress Thuggee. Perhaps there were one or two prevalent types of edged weapons that came to be popularly known as a "Thug knife".
@sweetdrahthaar7951
@sweetdrahthaar7951 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. In fact this video and the comment section or full of fascinating things I never knew. 👍🏻
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting trench weapon is the short sword issued to Lord Howard de Walden's battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers, with a leaf shaped blade and a very unusual hand guard, and sheath. It was apparently issued by the Lord himself, was 24 inches overall length, with a 17 1/2 inch blade and used to some effect in the trenches. Based on an older Welsh sword called the "CLEDD" it later apparently inspired Fairbairn of "Commando" knife fame, to design a weapon called the SMATCHET, also issued and used by Commandos and Special Forces in ww2 The American OSS and others had a copy too. I saw one of the original ww1 versions in the RWF military museum it is quite impressive and fearsome. As David Crockett said of the Bowie knife when he met James Bowie and saw the knife "the thought of that tickling someone's ribs, would like to turn a man's stomach"
@biggoldnugget
@biggoldnugget 2 жыл бұрын
I have an authentic 12 gauge trench gun with Enfield sword bayonet, I use it for home defense
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
You lucky bastard.
@thomasflagg7209
@thomasflagg7209 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, I love your presentations and your enthusiasm for your topics. I’ve been interested in weapons, especially historic ones, since I was a small boy. I had swords (broken hockey stick), knives (wooden) bows and arrows, slingshots (made by my grandpa) shields (plywood), armor (football helmet), guns (BB), etc., so I really enjoy seeing and hearing about pieces from your collection.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
I find it difficult to imagine crawling through the night, the mud, and wire, armed with post-apocalyptic weapons, to stab and claw at the enemy. How scared and desperate trench raiders and trench defenders must have been.
@rodchallis8031
@rodchallis8031 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of the source, (likely Pierre Burton's book "Vimy") but trench raids over a period of time provided diminishing returns. The idea was to catch the Germans by surprise and intelligence gathering was another point of the raid. Done too often, the Germans were ready and the raid could turn into a debacle. There's cases where trench raiding squads would just go out and spend much of their night in a bomb crater when they felt they had reached that diminishing returns point.
@hennerzz3460
@hennerzz3460 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised to learn that many volunteered for such raids, seeing them as an agreeable diversion to doing nothing or being shelled. But yes the trench defenders would most likely be feeling pretty scared and desperate
@tornagawn
@tornagawn 2 жыл бұрын
Having just watched the rather disappointing movie “The Kings Man” the one scene that works is the meeting of British and German soldiers in no man’s land at night - no guns for fear of bringing down gunfire, just brutal fighting for your life with edged steel and lumps of steel.
@cantcomewithsomethingorigi6799
@cantcomewithsomethingorigi6799 2 жыл бұрын
More of the battles of the US-occupation of Mexico was fight that way, The Mexicans have less powerfull guns than the US so the Mexicans use to get close and stab the sh*t of the US soldiers, That is why that is consider the most traumatic war for the US soldiers after Vietnan
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds badass
@jordanthomas4379
@jordanthomas4379 2 жыл бұрын
Entrenching tools or Trench spades were also readily used as weapons in the trenches of the Great War
@philw8049
@philw8049 2 жыл бұрын
E-tools are nasty things, they are hardened steel so they can be sharpened. I’ve seen them chop wood just as effectively as a small axe.
@Manco65
@Manco65 2 жыл бұрын
@@philw8049 true about chopping. I have a Etool I sharpened with a file. It's like a folding shovel and an light duty AXE.
@jordanthomas4379
@jordanthomas4379 2 жыл бұрын
@@philw8049 even unsharpened, they’re very handy and still very powerful, in terms of how much damage they can inflict.
@RockyMountainBear
@RockyMountainBear 2 жыл бұрын
They're still in use today. I think you can even look up the number of confirmed kills using an entrenching tool/spade, if you know where to look.
@jordanthomas4379
@jordanthomas4379 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockyMountainBear yes, my brother served in the military, and E-tools are still widely used and carried by infantry. Also, if you see E-tools in ww1, they didn’t all look the same, for some, it was a small pick axe, there are some examples in museums of ones that were carried specifically for trench fighting, nasty looking things.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, Is an antique trench knife, with knuckle duster grip, illegal to have in a collection in the UK?
@drakeevanscar5610
@drakeevanscar5610 2 жыл бұрын
No, Matt is a historian
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, original WW1 examples are legal to buy, sell and own in the UK as they are over 100 years old and therefore antique. Antiques are exempt from the prohibited weapons list (unless they are firearms, which have other methods of categorization).
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 2 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria Thanks Matt, I wasn't sure if the antique exemption covered that type of weapon. UK law has some very odd categories. Zombie knives for example!
@JuuB406
@JuuB406 2 жыл бұрын
@@mistahanansi2264 remove the first comma from the question and you'll see why @drakeevanscar was making a joke.
@budwilliams6590
@budwilliams6590 2 жыл бұрын
Don't get caught walking around Piccadilly Circus with one.
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the occasional scrap during my time in service but I can hardly fathom just how brutal trench warfare must have been. I'm *really* glad I never had to do it.
@danielleriley2796
@danielleriley2796 2 жыл бұрын
“Trench knives” are specifically prohibited weapons by name in Australia. However anyone of the features it has would be enough, duel edged blade, covered fingers even only a little tiny bit, point on the handle ‘pommel’.
@Elias-xu7uw
@Elias-xu7uw 2 жыл бұрын
pretty stupid laws. you could just go to the store and buy a little axe/tomahawk
@danielleriley2796
@danielleriley2796 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elias-xu7uw also throwing knives and axes are prohibited weapons as well. They are defined as a knife or axe designed for throwing or ANY knife or axe that you do throw. So hold your axe trip over and accidentally let it go as you fall, you’ve thrown the axe so it’s now a throwing axe. Crazy. Even crazier is that a few states allow some prohibited weapons that australia itself bans. You buy one and it gets stopped at the border by customs then the paperwork starts.
@Elias-xu7uw
@Elias-xu7uw 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielleriley2796 funny what the world has come to.. not a democracy thats for sure it never was either
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielleriley2796 Ppl like to say the Aussies are the descendants of prisoners and criminals; but they're also the descendants of the jailors. Good luck down there :(
@RockyMountainBear
@RockyMountainBear 2 жыл бұрын
What about screw drivers? Someone who knows how to throw a screw driver could really do some damage.
@DETHMOKIL
@DETHMOKIL 2 жыл бұрын
I love these primary source videos. Even just historical commentary on events can really show you how modern conceptions of the past get formed. You take for 'common knowledge' for granted.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. These blades were used in combat in what was, until very recently, living memory. Much more reliable than trying to reconstruct a lost art out of unreliable medieval manuals written in pre-scientific language.
@davidcritchley8424
@davidcritchley8424 2 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that one of the reasons officers outfitters were selling trench daggers was because officers were still expected to equip and clothe themselves at their own expense, including their weapons.
@DG-dy4tv
@DG-dy4tv Жыл бұрын
I found this more thought provoking than I had anticipated. I actually think I changed my mind about point up or point down in regards to trench warfare.... but not outright killing.
@wakeizland
@wakeizland 2 жыл бұрын
Trench clubs and maces deserve a video too. There are so many great designs, many truly look like Medieval weapons.
@waynehatton4136
@waynehatton4136 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and some were even German designed resembling a morning star with a spring shaft.
@shovellord1117
@shovellord1117 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying these modern studies Mr. Easton! Do you think you could do one of these on war clubs (gunstock, ball, etc.)?
@jonathanhansen3709
@jonathanhansen3709 2 жыл бұрын
A very good friend of mine, Arthur Purcell (1890-1986), had the brass-knuckle ‘1918’ American trench knife, he was issued while in France in the First World War. I remember he used it as a paper weight.
@sasquatchycowboy5585
@sasquatchycowboy5585 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the cutless would have faired in the trenches. It's short enough to stab all the way up to your body. It's heavy enough to bash your skull in, and that guard is a good knuckle duster. They used short shovels so there was enough room for a short sword. The cutless was designed for close combat in confined space, on poor footing.
@amnewl727
@amnewl727 2 жыл бұрын
You pick the best topics, man! I unexpectedly ran into a really cool ww1 trench exhibit at the Wilson presidential library in Virginia. Those serrated and spiraled tri-blades are vicious
@EgaoKage
@EgaoKage 2 жыл бұрын
The "back-handed" stabbing motion is unsurprisingly more powerful; as it is, essentially, a pulling motion. As opposed to a forward stabbing motion; which is a pushing motion. As our simian ancestry would indicate, we have evolved to be better suited to pulling, than pushing; as the former plays a far more prominent role in _climbing._
@angeljamais8541
@angeljamais8541 Жыл бұрын
Quite insightful. Thank you, learnt something today.
@speedypeat
@speedypeat 2 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend a look into the Italian Arditi of WWI. Use of armor, shields and daggers as shock troops was their wheelhouse.
@martinlynch2759
@martinlynch2759 Жыл бұрын
The source of Bowies during the American Civil War was England in large part. Naturally they would be readily available to Tommies for trench use.
@WhatIfBrigade
@WhatIfBrigade 2 жыл бұрын
The going for the face observation is really interesting both in terms of modern combat and also World War One. During WWI lots of horrific new weapons were pioneered like chemical attacks and I can see how a facial cut or stab would be very demoralizing to a person who had spent months in a muddy trench, but also this would probably be a preferable way of deciding the fighting for the infantry on both sides as opposed to getting gutted. It also makes the re-introduction of the steel helmet more than just about artillery.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
I can see how avoiding disemboweling would be suboptimal b/c viscera are more slippery than mud.
@OldMusicFan83
@OldMusicFan83 2 жыл бұрын
When my brother was in Ranger Battalion, I tried to find him a trench knife- but he found and carried an old K-bar
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard about some nasty uses for K-bars.
@chrisengle5074
@chrisengle5074 8 ай бұрын
Europe: We’ve got trench daggers!! America: *laughs in shotgun*
@cyclonetaylor7838
@cyclonetaylor7838 2 ай бұрын
My Uncle who fought in the first war gave me his trench knife from the war. It was a cut down and ŕedone grip from a Ross rifle bayonet that he was supposed to return to stores. It was a super strong and handy knife.
@robertprovan6735
@robertprovan6735 2 жыл бұрын
I have a small flick knife that my great grandfather picked up in Belgium during WWI. I don't know if he got it as a weapon or just a tool, it's a little small for trench fighting but perfect for shanking sentries or as a hidden hold out if captured.
@Getpojke
@Getpojke 2 жыл бұрын
Not WWI but WWII I knew a number of former Commandos. One was a customer who I became friends with & he brought his Fairbairn-Sykes knife for me to see. It looked like it had seen some use but still had a very good edge. I could almost the the quotation marks when he said that he "...'mainly' used it for opening ammo crates." Another told me tales of one of his comrades who had been a bit of a tearaway even before the war, his speciality was capturing sentries. He had a set of brass knuckles with three very large & stout fishing hooks set into it. He would sneak up on a sentry & tap them on the shoulder, as they turned he'd thrust the hooks into their face while putting the index finger of his other hand up to his lips to mime "Shhh!" The stuck sentry would seemingly come along meek as a lamb & not make a noise. Seems a very cruel way to capture someone & the wounds were horrible, but they at least got taken alive & could give up information.
@RandoCalrisiann
@RandoCalrisiann 2 жыл бұрын
I've got an L.F.&C. 1918 with matching scabbard. I love how it feels in my hand, solid and designed for business. It's got a great patina to it. Just makes me think of who else held it in the past?
@johndilday1846
@johndilday1846 Жыл бұрын
Landers, Frary & Clark was a fine old American knife company back in the day. You have a good quality knife.
@rogerlafrance6355
@rogerlafrance6355 2 жыл бұрын
Does bring to mind medieval siege works, often the same trenches and raiders on both sides, not to mention meeting up in tunnels under the fortress.
@fritzbucher4726
@fritzbucher4726 Жыл бұрын
I have been fascinated with trench knives since I was a little kid. The design of these knives drew my attention and the stories and reason behind them hooked me in.
@Templarium
@Templarium 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I often wondered if British officers had daggers or knives made for them to carry in addition to the sword(i.e. early ww1 and before). Considering what you said that it was thought of as "ungentlemanly" I guess that answers the question.
@johnstewarteite9314
@johnstewarteite9314 2 жыл бұрын
The prichard greener bayonet was made for the webley service MKV1 for trench raiding and a speed loader was accepted in 1918 to give it a quicker loading . you could use it as a club if all else failed
@bakters
@bakters 2 жыл бұрын
Q: Why would they use knives for melee, if they had bayonets? A: Because a knife is a *real* melee weapon, while a bayonet is a *surrogate* spear, used as a cavalry deterrent. (Inb4: There wasn't enough space! A rapier was designed for tight alleys, with no space to swing a sword. It worked, because it was a melee weapon. A rifle is not one. Even with a spike at the end.)
@jamescameron2490
@jamescameron2490 Жыл бұрын
The big problem with brass knuckles on a trench knife was that they made the knife very difficult to use effectively. With the fingers in the knuckles, it became impossible to shift the grip when necessary.
@zoiders
@zoiders 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago when conducting live fire training we always used to refer to the chap tasked with throwing or posting the grenade into the "enemy" gun pit as the "bombadier".
@ericvanvlandren8987
@ericvanvlandren8987 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT video! I can’t wait for the trench knife evaluation video, upcoming. Along these same lines I’d love to see discussions of other knives and daggers such as the Fairbairn Sykes, the smatchet, various types of dirks, stilettos, main gauche, and hand bills. Thanks Matt!
@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81
@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 Жыл бұрын
A trench knife is very personal, by definition. That's why there's so much emotion wrapped up with its use.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
One also has to assume that this direct experience of using these knives in combat was passed down from one instructor to the next, and to their students, and is probably still maintained today in places like SAS, even if they no longer use this particular knife.
@DSlyde
@DSlyde 2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video. This channel is always good, but I really like this sort of researched format on contemporary use and opinions.
@Verdunveteran
@Verdunveteran 2 жыл бұрын
As a passionate First World War history buff I must say this is a great video! One that i certainly will share with my like minded friends. Great job, Matt!!! Well done! Would be awesome to see similar sources for the German and French armies aswell as others.
@stephenland9361
@stephenland9361 2 жыл бұрын
There is a considerable difference between fighting from a trench and fighting in the trench. WWI soldiers were very creative in making useful and deadly weapons for hand to hand combat in trench fighting. A simple entrenching tool ( a small, one handed spade) with the spade blade sharpened became a lethal weapon. Various clubs were made from any bits and pieces available. A small hatchet (or tomahawk) was popular. All manner of shapes of knives and daggers were improvised. But the dagger that incorporated both brass knuckles and a skull cracking nut on the pommel was ingenious. You could thrust and slash with the blade, punch with the brass knuckles and with a back hand blow, break someone's skull. No matter how your hand was positioned, you had a lethal weapon ready to go. In as little as one or two seconds, you could slash, then punch and then break bone. Unfortunately, so could the other guy. Stealth, silence and complete surprise was the key. Get in, kill and get out. Personally, my idea of a good trench weapon was the trench shotgun. Forget silence. Keep back a few yards and blow the other guy to pieces with your trusty Winchester Model 1897 trench gun, complete with bayonet. Paper case cartridges were less than ideal in the often water logged trenches so brass cased buckshot was just the ticket. www.americanrifleman.org/media/g2rhrxmt/_trench-p61d.jpg www.americanrifleman.org/media/0p4fo44l/_trench-p59c.jpg The shotshells had nine, .34 calibre pellets and the gun held six rounds. Special canvas cartridge pouches carried plenty of ammo (32 rounds) but such pouches were not common. Various other pouches or just pockets would suffice. www.americanrifleman.org/media/vtxfoubo/_trench-p63a.jpg Armed with this shotgun and the dagger/brass knuckles/bone breaker as backup, a guy actually stood a chance of survival in trench raiding, either on offense or defense.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
*Great point.* They didn't always have the benefit of proper equipment or even resupply! They had to get creative, like all true warriors. (In Shaolin, "monks spade" is one of he few traditional bladed weapons. Buddhists could utilize it b/c it was properly a tool, and not specifically designed to draw human blood:)
@sonnysantana5454
@sonnysantana5454 Жыл бұрын
back in late 70's i got lucky to get my hands on 1' and i got it cleaned and sharpened and it was not a regret to add it to my tool collection
@Zapski
@Zapski 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought of “knuckle dusters” as a weapon you can give a panicked 18 year old that he’d be able to use without any training. Simply force-magnifying a punch is no trivial matter; he can hit harder, longer, and more effectively just by flailing, and that must be a confidence booster
@philw8049
@philw8049 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not to mention being able to do all that WITHOUT actually breaking your own hand.
@xxxxSylphxxxx
@xxxxSylphxxxx 2 жыл бұрын
You say 'without any training'... It's astonishing how regularly that people posing with knuckle dusters hold them the wrong way.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus 2 жыл бұрын
I love WWI & WWII era weapon's, I have quite a few WWII items in my collection, an M1 Carbine & M1 Garand that my grandfather brought back from the war, a BAR along with dozens of different style bayonets. The only WWI era stuff I have is some trench art, a couple trench clubs and my favorite is a 1907 Vickers bayonet. Unfortunately the Vickers doesn't have a Scabbard. Wish I could find one for it just because, but I haven't been able to find one. 😟 Great video as always 👍👍
@lovelaven6491
@lovelaven6491 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Looking forward to a close-up on different varieties in the future!
@MrTork49
@MrTork49 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive program! My uncle (officer) and his men had used a short knifes during the Russo-Japanese war of 1904 against the Russian's at Port Arthur and Manchuria trenches.
@hopefilledsinner3911
@hopefilledsinner3911 2 жыл бұрын
Using these weapons for real even once and a man's character is forever changed.
@hugowells3052
@hugowells3052 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about how much trench daggers changed (or didn’t) from their medieval counterparts
@advert1489
@advert1489 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I can totally believe that I have been seeing Raid commercials for 3-years lol!
@aydencole8850
@aydencole8850 4 ай бұрын
My great uncle used the mk1 trench knife (with the brass knuckles) in Europe during ww2. He was a paratrooper
@leppeppel
@leppeppel 2 жыл бұрын
I was just listening to the period usage of Bowie knives and sword canes videos. I must say I'm greatly enjoying this unofficial new series.
@skeeverskeeyo7331
@skeeverskeeyo7331 2 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige does a great video on British officer's swords. He has solid evidence that swords worked great for fighting in the trenches and for rallying troops, but that they made officers too easy to be targeted by Germans snipers who notoriously targeted officers first. I think in the year or two before the sword was recalled, it was like 75% mortality for British officers or something awful. Which went down when the swords were decommissioned. It's crazy to think about all the brave experienced and well trained men they lost this way early on in the war. Kinda like helmets, its painful to think about in hindsight.
@braddbradd5671
@braddbradd5671 Жыл бұрын
Iv got WW1 Hungarian trench knife ..My nephew gave it to me years ago .I play with it all the time its in my hand now
@ftdefiance1
@ftdefiance1 2 жыл бұрын
One reason for trench raiding was to grab prisoners for interrogation. Brass knuckles and clubs work well for that. As late as the 1980's we were taught the use of the knife, garrote and field expedient sap for sentry elimination in the U.S. Army.
@mitchellsmith4690
@mitchellsmith4690 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I remember that.
@sigutjo
@sigutjo 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy storytime with uncle Matt. Keep doing these please.
@warwickmudge4114
@warwickmudge4114 Жыл бұрын
Worth reading 'Goodbye to all that' where the author, an upper middle class 18yo officer admits to purchasing a Bowie knife and it's practical use (as learnt from the Germans).
@Manco65
@Manco65 2 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember my Grandfather havi one of the knuckle type knives. When visiting him, we live 3 states away, he would allow me to see some of his gear from WWI and the Polish Soviet War. Unfortunately my aunt's swept in on his passing and three away his uniforms and weapons.🙄☹️
@Joe___R
@Joe___R 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about killing someone silently the U.S. Marine Corps still teaches how to do just that with your knife. The technique is to stab your blade through the center or just behind center of their neck from behind them & then quickly push the blade forward and out the neck. This technique will prevent them from being able to scream before they die from blood loss.
@kevingooley9628
@kevingooley9628 2 жыл бұрын
There's a video on KZbin of Stan Scott (WW2 commando) describing the technique with a Fairbairn Sykes dagger. Even in his 70's, still has the aura of a very formidable man.
@kylekenney1907
@kylekenney1907 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it had to do with hitting the brain steam too
@earlwed
@earlwed 2 жыл бұрын
The trench raid scene in “King’s Man” comes to mind.
@Starless85
@Starless85 2 жыл бұрын
Such a horrifying warfare to imagine. Everyone screaming, stabbing each other to death down in the muck, grenades blowing people apart. Insane.
@KarlKarsnark
@KarlKarsnark 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Musashi talks a lot about striking, stabbing and slicing to the face, as well. All animals instinctively protect their eyes, especially if there is a sharp, pointy object coming toward them. Cheers!
@seamusderby169
@seamusderby169 2 жыл бұрын
I remember going through my grandad's sea chest from WW2 and he had a model 1918 trench knife and a letter from his dad a WW1 Veteran saying I hope it serves you like it served me
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant presentation. WW1 really was an interesting shift in bladed weaponology.
@walkingdeadalphaCO
@walkingdeadalphaCO Жыл бұрын
Respect to the men who were hookin and jabbin in the trenches
@jamespfp
@jamespfp Жыл бұрын
23:45 -- RE: Above and beyond the call of duty; TBH, as you were relating the details it occurred to me that *if* a soldier is willing and able to conduct a successful attack on an enemy soldier or position with a trench knife, the "Level Up" moment is the capture of a live enemy prisoner.
@listsforthecurious
@listsforthecurious 2 жыл бұрын
Good timing. It's ANZAC day in Australia, which is our most popular day for remembering servicemen. (With the WWI era being a significant focus.)
@Poohze01
@Poohze01 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! The very last part about the preference for the icepick grip (in this context, naturally) was particularly interesting.
@jorgefernandez6407
@jorgefernandez6407 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting, actual knife and Combat video's that I have seen!
@user-vl8fb1gu6k
@user-vl8fb1gu6k 2 жыл бұрын
That's the most 'Boy's Own' opening line I've heard in a long time. I'm in!
@tonyg25
@tonyg25 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing Matt talk about Raid always cracks me up, it's like listening to grandad talk about 'those Nintendo things' At least they pay well
@EastBayFlipper
@EastBayFlipper 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, When looking at function for a trench knife, wouldn't a naval boarding cutlass also be an effective trench weapon? 🤔
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
Matt mentioned that swords were not effective in trenches, and a boarding cutlass would be fundamentally similar to an officer's saber.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
Not useable as a tool, when eating with a cutlass, you also need a farmers fork.:-)
@granitejeepc3651
@granitejeepc3651 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to run or crawl into a trench with a sword of any type. Also blade length is a detriment in CQB both for fighting and maneuver.
@jeffreybrown6603
@jeffreybrown6603 Жыл бұрын
Very well done presentation based on solid research from primary sources. Thank you!
@bodidley5015
@bodidley5015 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of utility of tomahawk with a cutting edge and either a spike or hammer opposite.
@MercutioUK2006
@MercutioUK2006 2 жыл бұрын
It's your boy, Raid Shadow Legends! Wrong channel, sorry. I sat down at 5:10 in the morning to watch this, and loved every moment.........fascinating and somewhat overlooked subject matter. Some of the improvised trench clubs/maces, along with the cleavers, billhooks, and other assorted ironmongery would probably also be worth examining - if only for the sake of completeness.
@thedoughnutking9514
@thedoughnutking9514 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot field shovels...... ; )
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 2 жыл бұрын
And the associated peripheral accessory: field scat.
@pzwackelmann7681
@pzwackelmann7681 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, my grandfather told me, they used the Feldspaten (field spade?) most times.
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
@@pzwackelmann7681 field spade is correct. Even today in english, spades are shovels, although nowadays they refer to a specific design of shovel.
@David_Fellner
@David_Fellner Жыл бұрын
"... and I can remember the jolly feeling of my two thumbs in his throat." See, that's what I love about soldiers (among other things, of course). They can say things like _that_ and it actually makes sense!
@lalbus1607
@lalbus1607 2 жыл бұрын
Could you talk more about the importance of the psychological shock for war tatics? I think it's a not so explored subject.
@gregabidwalapgwilymgoch956
@gregabidwalapgwilymgoch956 Жыл бұрын
In one battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers, the CO, Lord Howard De Walden, commissioned and paid for an issue of short, leaf-shaped, Welsh swords, of the sort used by Welsh archers during the Hundred Years War.
@corneliussulla9963
@corneliussulla9963 Жыл бұрын
Overpenetration and therefore friendly fire incidents are also a point worth considering when it comes to firearms in trench-hand to hand combat.
@not-a-theist8251
@not-a-theist8251 2 жыл бұрын
"15 inches is very big" Matt Easton, Schola Gladiatoria
@captainamerica3531
@captainamerica3531 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding super solid history. Thanks
@JonesMacGrath
@JonesMacGrath 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I had been asking for. It actually answered a lot of my questions about how this knife was typically used beyond "well they stab them with it". I'll try for two with another question I've been thinking about. Axes and maces seem to have similar handling, and it would seem that their percussive damage should be similar but we know that sometimes maces were preferred over axes, even by people who probably would have been more comfortable with axes (normans?) So I do wonder why axes aren't almost always picked over maces when it seems like they could accomplish the same or close to it? Is it just because maces are easier and cheaper to make and use? More durable? There are some pretty fancy maces out there as well as axes so I don't know how much I buy into either of those answers so I feel I must have gotten something wrong or I'm missing something.
@lalbus1607
@lalbus1607 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Matt's video from 3 years ago (I think) named "Can a battle axe chop wood?". In this video he talks about the diference between the Dane axe and a pollaxe. Despite both were axes, the pollaxe axe head is fairly smaller in profile, however is much thicker. Therefore the pollaxe is more reliable to hit hard targets such as a brigandine or a solid breastplate than the Dane axe. The Dane axes blade was generally very thin for a axe, what is easy to understand once it was beeing used at the Age of Hasting, so the better armor you could have to face was a coat of mail and a conical helmet.
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus 2 жыл бұрын
Axes are super effective but have a habit of getting stuck in most inconvenient times. That extra second you spend wrenching the blade out of someones skull can be the death of you.
@JonesMacGrath
@JonesMacGrath 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaaZeus This is honestly the only answer that seems seems big enough to me. Maces are far less likely to get stuck.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
Maces don't have an edge to be degraded, do I'd think they win on durability. Also assuming the learning curve is lower, because the range of applications is pretty limited to "bash", unlike an axe which can be more versatile. MaaZeus also make an important point about hacking weapons getting stuck in bone.
@itinerantpoet1341
@itinerantpoet1341 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonesMacGrath In modern Chinese fencing with real weight swords, chops are considered less optimal for this reason, as opposed to slicing tendons and thrusting into the abdomen *avoiding contact with bone*. Even where you see chops, such as into the shoulder, there will often be a followup movement-chop/saw forward-to release the blade from the bone.
@beaumorlock3604
@beaumorlock3604 Жыл бұрын
If you could you should do a video on the welsh trench dagger/short sword of WW1 and the further design the smachet of WW2. Love the videos
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