WW2 German Artillery Graveyard

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@MarkFeltonProductions
@MarkFeltonProductions Жыл бұрын
Special thanks to Jersey War Tours, a non-profit volunteer organisation, for drone footage and photos. Please visit the following link for more footage and images of the surviving guns: www.jerseybunkertours.com/ww2-gun-graveyard
@robinblackmoor8732
@robinblackmoor8732 Жыл бұрын
What a giant waste. Tourism! Seeing all the guns is the only reason I would go to these islands. Why would anyone go with the guns all gone from their original locations? They ruined their chances of tourism being a thing.
@JerseyWarTours
@JerseyWarTours Жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark, great edit :)
@andrewthomson
@andrewthomson Жыл бұрын
@@JerseyWarTours I'm very jealous that you have such interesting war history in your backyard. For better or worse Canada doesn't have many such installations and very few within a short drive. Thank you for preserving and sharing it with the world!
@JerseyWarTours
@JerseyWarTours Жыл бұрын
@@andrewthomson We are so lucky to have this in our backyard! thank you.
@djzrobzombie2813
@djzrobzombie2813 Жыл бұрын
​@@robinblackmoor8732 agree who would visit does island.... It's not like Hawaii or something like that 😂😂😂
@Bob-pu2bu
@Bob-pu2bu Жыл бұрын
I was born on Jersey in 1966, my friends and I as kids, would climb down the cliffs to the guns and play. We also used to explore the bunkers and tunnels. They were not sealed off so much then as they are now. This has brought back fond memories of my childhood. Great video as always Mark.
@johnyoung2279
@johnyoung2279 Жыл бұрын
Soundtrack was a bit melodramatic
@389383
@389383 Жыл бұрын
@@johnyoung2279 More than a bit!
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock Жыл бұрын
Those were the days, we were very lucky as children being able to play in the afterglow of history, castles, bunkers, gun emplacements etc before the intrusion sanitation and commercialism of modernity.
@Goldfinger140
@Goldfinger140 Жыл бұрын
Great sound track! What was the title of this piece?
@duellingscarguevara
@duellingscarguevara Жыл бұрын
Kids in Brisbane found sub-guns in old tunnels, a couple of years back. (It made the news, probably pretty rusty though).
@pukefire4169
@pukefire4169 Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised on Jersey and have lived there most of my life, and yet somehow had never heard of this artillery dump before. Thank you Dr Felton for showing me a fantastic piece of history from my very own home. I know what I'm doing when I next go back.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Jersey too. What exit?
@therighthonsirdoug
@therighthonsirdoug Жыл бұрын
Do you have a chinook helicopter! 😅
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 Жыл бұрын
❓🤔❓ Yes, I too lived in Jersey for some time. But I can't seem to locate the German bunkers, the guns, _OR_ the tall rocky cliffs. I've searched all along the Jersey beaches, including Wildwood, Cape May _and_ Atlantic city, and all I can find are boardwalks, casinos and salt water taffy! 😁
@trje246
@trje246 Жыл бұрын
@@HighlanderNorth1 I've seen the entire Jersey Shore and never come across any old guns. I'll have to re-watch the series all over again now I guess... 🙄
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 Жыл бұрын
@@trje246 Lol. That's even funnier!
@hogfather355
@hogfather355 Жыл бұрын
My family comes from Jersey. They like so many others were evacuated to England just before the Germans arrived. After the war the emplacements featured in this video became a childhood adventure park for me as my father, time and time again, lectured me on their construction and purpose! In those days the ‘bunkers’ were not nicely restored as they are today, but rather dangerous places to play! The guns thrown over the cliffs were part of his lectures then too. These experiences inspired me to a lifetimes interest and study of both world wars. Thank you Mark for your well researched and beautifully narrated videos, all of which I have watched with great interest. Keep up your great work, you are a true giant among researchers and presenters ! 👍
@annehersey9895
@annehersey9895 Жыл бұрын
Your father did you a great service of talking to you about all of what went on, how it was made etc. Sorry to hear the old bunkers were dangerous, it sounds to me like a kids dream to play around in all those old bunkers! I remember playing army all the time and to have had real props to use would have been kid heaven! I of course, being the girl AND the youngest was always the Nazi, the Japanese, the Indian,the Confederate Rebel whatever the older boys didn't want to be fell to me and a few other lower on the pecking order=we are talking the 50's now. We had great imaginations but I do wish I could have played the hero a time or two!
@hogfather355
@hogfather355 Жыл бұрын
The surviving bunkers on Jersey have largely been restored or are in private ownership. Playing in them during the 1960s was a bit hazardous to say the least. Many were partially filled in with earth in a vain attempt to keep the inquisitive out, or used as store rooms. Usually there was a way in for the intrepid adventurer armed with a pocket torch! Today the best place to find relatively untouched German fortifications is Alderney. 🤓
@annehersey9895
@annehersey9895 Жыл бұрын
@@hogfather355 Thank you so much and I shall now add the Island to my WWII must visit sites!
@PrestonFrankel
@PrestonFrankel Жыл бұрын
I’m from New York, so even after watching a video surrounding the Channel Islands, I still thought you meant New Jersey and was very confused. Very good story though, I love small memories like this from back during the war. Glad your family was alright and got to return home.
@petergraves2085
@petergraves2085 Жыл бұрын
@@PrestonFrankel So let me get this straight. You thought the Germans had occupied New Jersey in June 1940 ?
@jaredevildog6343
@jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Felton..... always providing knowledge and enjoyment. Thank you Sir.
@MI-mx3rh
@MI-mx3rh Жыл бұрын
❤ 🇩🇪
@Lerxstification
@Lerxstification Жыл бұрын
And a very rare photo of a young Dr. Felton @3:15
@l337pwnage
@l337pwnage Жыл бұрын
🤣
@NewHampshireJack
@NewHampshireJack Жыл бұрын
I am semi-retired and living in the Republic of the Philippine islands. A trip into Manila and a ferry ride to the mouth of Manilla bay will take you to Corregidor island. The only non-original feature is the Corregidor inn, built to accommodate folks who desire more than a quick day trip. This is a place where you can get a deep immersion into history. Most of the heavy guns are still resting on their emplacements. If you are a history buff and plan to be in or near Manila, take a minimum one-day excursion out to Correggidor, I promise it will be worth your time.
@joebombero1
@joebombero1 Жыл бұрын
I always take guests to the island. We retired to Cavite in 2018 from Texas.
@Matt_from_Florida
@Matt_from_Florida Жыл бұрын
I wish I had the courage to relocate to a foreign country. In the last 18 months everything has gotten 'crazy expensive' in the USA.
@jdee9501
@jdee9501 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these interesting places, greetings from a strange world 😊
@kevinmatthews7180
@kevinmatthews7180 Жыл бұрын
Took that trip about 15 years ago. Very interesting island.
@LordKingPotato
@LordKingPotato Жыл бұрын
Being from Jersey myself, I knew the British army discarded the artillery off the cliffs but I never knew that they survived with some restored. Amazing footage, great stuff 👍🇯🇪
@jamesjohno1180
@jamesjohno1180 Жыл бұрын
Do you think you’d be able to traverse the cliff side and pick me up a relic and ship it to me? I’m on the other island England🙋🏼‍♂️I really want to partly restore one of these relics or make something out of it a lamp! It would look amazing, only if it’s not too much hard work abseiling down the side of the mountain😊thank you it would mean a lot
@kingkandars3352
@kingkandars3352 Жыл бұрын
Went to Jersey 18 years ago, loved looking at all the WW2 era fixtures and the Underground Hospital.
@MVProfits
@MVProfits Жыл бұрын
For tourism, it would have much better sense to keep all the artillery as they were.
@sicknote1558
@sicknote1558 Жыл бұрын
@MVProfits I'm sure that's the last thing they were thinking about at the end of ww2
@nancymilawski1048
@nancymilawski1048 Жыл бұрын
@@sicknote1558 yes I'm sure thery were thinking what 4the quickest and cheapest way to render these guns unusable? Transporting them off was obviously too expensive. I don't know why they didn't leave them in place and just fill the barrel with cement or make a hole in the side of the barrel.
@sicknote1558
@sicknote1558 Жыл бұрын
@nancymilawski1048 I'm talking tourism like most if not all wars every trace of the losing regimes were erased from history as best as possible like Germany hittler Italy musalinie araq saddam every trace possible was removed. Britain had been through a VERY COSTLY war high in debt the Last thing people wanted was any trace of occupation especially after all the suffering natzi Germany had caused to the British people so preserving natzi artillery was the last thing people were thinking or wanted
@KumaBean
@KumaBean Жыл бұрын
Jersey Bean here, love that you covered this. My Stepdad told me about the German guns at the bottom of the cliffs when I was sixteen years old, I’m hitting forty soon, and this entire time I’ve been trying to work out a way to lift one of those bad boys back up the cliff to clean-up and place in the garden, lol I’ve had ideas, but as soon as you mentioned Chinook, all bets are off 😂 All the best Mark, take care mate 🤝
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKbUZWOYp6x3irs
@mistag3860
@mistag3860 Жыл бұрын
get a winch off of a land rover or toyota, abseil down the cliff, tie a gun to a rope connected to the winch and bobs your mothers brother. Tip; make sure the winch is well anchored, and 'steer' the gun up the cliff with guide ropes, so it doesn't foul up.
@KumaBean
@KumaBean Жыл бұрын
@@mistag3860 That was the main plan, lol, won’t be attempting it though, I’d likely get in serious schtick and besides, I can barely walk further than the shop across the road these days 🤣
@mistag3860
@mistag3860 Жыл бұрын
@@KumaBean yea, probly, and it would have to be 'disabled' and i bet you need a metric tonne of licences, and permits, fees, and permissions. nice thought tho
@davidyendoll5903
@davidyendoll5903 Жыл бұрын
@@mistag3860 And an olympic swimming sized parts cleaner !
@oogdiver
@oogdiver Жыл бұрын
I imagine getting posted to the Channel Islands as a German soldier was the best possible outcome in terms of surviving the war and having a relatively easy life.
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila Жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree.
@glenchapman3899
@glenchapman3899 Жыл бұрын
Yeah both sides sort of hunkered down and made the best of it. Obviously there were still incidents but the civilians had it reasonably good compared to many on the continent.
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 Жыл бұрын
Food became in very short supply, both for the extra tens of thousands of occupiers and the population. In the winter of 44/45 the Red Cross sent a ship full of food (the SS Vega) but it was strictly for civilian use, not for the garrison, who were cut off (by this time the Allies were reaching out to Germany itself).
@John_1_0
@John_1_0 Жыл бұрын
In hindsight, yes.
@FunnyMan-pw4hl
@FunnyMan-pw4hl Жыл бұрын
Sure beat the Eastern Front!
@MakiJSY
@MakiJSY Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for covering my home island of Jersey! I grew up just down the road from Battery Moltke and we used to play in and around the bunkers as kids, we would even climb down the cliffs at low tide to see the guns up close. It's an amazing place to live and so full of history, so it's always lovely for our little island to get some attention.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
I'm from Jersey, you're from Jersey, what exit?
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@Matt M tower, I don't think we have a tower.
@MakiJSY
@MakiJSY Жыл бұрын
@Matt M As far as I know it's still possible! But it's not an easy climb down, super dangerous and definitely not for the faint of heart
@MakiJSY
@MakiJSY Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Are you sure you're talking about the same Jersey? 🤣
@Lee-gy2ng
@Lee-gy2ng Жыл бұрын
Likely New Jersey , there is a turn pike (highway) that spans the State and your exit would identify roughly what area you live in. I don’t think the Germans ever invaded but it was a British territory at one point 😂
@robsonez
@robsonez Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being an amazing historian Mark
@Kevin_Kennelly
@Kevin_Kennelly Жыл бұрын
The extended sequence at the end. All of the lingering shots of the ordnance. The musical accompaniment. It is well produced.
@mtkoslowski
@mtkoslowski Жыл бұрын
Mark, your staff are to be commended in their unfailing quest to find relevant and interesting material for your channels. Kudos to all of you, thank you.
@glenchapman3899
@glenchapman3899 Жыл бұрын
Yeah both sides sort of hunkered down and made the best of it. Obviously there were still incidents but the civilians had it reasonably good compared to many on the continent.
@filipohman7277
@filipohman7277 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Work Mark, Thanks 👍👍👍 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland 🇫🇮
@FindieDev
@FindieDev Жыл бұрын
Mark thanks for always posting these informative and well researched videos 👍🏻
@timw.6910
@timw.6910 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Another worthwhile post! Thank you Mark!
@michaelhoran407
@michaelhoran407 Жыл бұрын
It’s like the battle of Truk atoll in World War II. There was a Japanese army garrison of 80,000 troops. When the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marines occupied the atoll huge piles of weapons and personal effects were bulldozed into the Truk lagoon. This included thousands of Nambu and Mauser pistols, Leica, Canon, and Nikon cameras, and samurai swords.
@richardhenry5961
@richardhenry5961 Жыл бұрын
Always impressed by Mark Felton Productions, History should never be forgotten, for it could repeat its self and we never learn from our mistakes.
@ELMS
@ELMS Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating sidebar. Thanks Dr. Felton for this incredible story.
@chrisblore6385
@chrisblore6385 Жыл бұрын
Mark You have the best theme music . It’s always exciting to see your new episode post and hearing that opening. Means an interesting and informative history lesson is about to begin.. Thank you for all your efforts…
@NorthernChev
@NorthernChev Жыл бұрын
You really nailed it with the choice of music for the denouement! Excellent.
@streetcop157
@streetcop157 Жыл бұрын
My brother said one of his saddest duties in the navy was the destruction of surplus light weapons by reading the serial numbers to a lieutenant who confirmed the number and then tossed them overboard while at sea.
@MightyMezzo
@MightyMezzo Жыл бұрын
That final segment, showing the guns at the foot of the cliffs, has a terrible beauty. My compliments to your cinematographer.
@-.Steven
@-.Steven Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone is restoring these pieces of history! Destroying them was and is a damnable shame! Thank you Dr Felton!
@nicholaskelly1958
@nicholaskelly1958 Жыл бұрын
Dr Felton. Thank you for a very interesting video. On the subject of the Channel Islands defences. Have you considered looking at the curious story of the Batterie Mirus on Guernsey? The saga of its construction being most unusual, involving as it does the guns from the Imperial Russian Navy 'Imperatritsa Mariya' Class Dreadnought Battleship 'Imperator Alexsandr III' dating from 1912. In 1992, along with a friend I was shown the remains of the Batterie Mirus by Richard Heaume (The German Occupation Museum, Guernsey) Who also told us about the history of the Batterie. One unusual aspect of the various German gun batteries on Guernsey and Jersey was the use of surviving windmill towers as range finding towers. Being designated as the following. 'P' = 'Peilstand' or 'Direction Finding Position' 'M' = 'Messtelle' or 'Range Finding Position' St Martin's Mill at Rozel. Being designated 'M6' supplying information to the Batterie Mackensen (21cm medium howitzers). The Mill tower being substantially altered both internally and externally during the conversion. The tower was almost doubled in height. Today, it stands in the garden of a large house serving as both a Seamark and a garden shed. Bouvoier/Bouvoir Mill at Grouville (as a complete aside Bouvoier Mill is the most southerly windmill in the British Isles) Bouvoier Mill also reported to Batte5rie Mackensen being designated 'M8'. It was converted into a house during the late 1970s. Grantez Mill at St. Ouen. It was sold to the States of Jersey in October 1911 to be preserved and used as a Seamark high above St.Ouen's Bay. By the mid 1930's, there was a considerable movement led by G.S.Knocker and the Société Jersiaise to restore the mill to working order. Regrettably, this laudable aim proved to be impossible. As following the occupation, it was converted into a 'Beobachtungsstelle' or Observation Post for the nearby Batterie Ludendorf (However, unlike the other converted windmills on Jersey. Grantez Mill was not given an 'M' designation) As a result of this, all of the machinery was removed by the OT during conversion. Today, it serves as a Seamark whilst the base serves as the HQ of a local Scout group. Two windmills on Guernsey served a similar role. They are Vale/Pinnacle Mill, Vale. Which was extensively remodelled and extended in height by some 40'/12m. It served as distance and range finding tower for three inland batteries. Today, it serves as a Seamark. Mont Saint Mill, St. Saviour. Built in 1820 as a cement grinding mill. It was also converted into a 'Beobachtungsstelle' After the war, it was used as a Seamark. More recently, it has been cosmetically restored with a new cap and sails being fitted. Also, following the arrival of the German forces on Sark (4th July 1940) It was proposed to convert the Seigneural Mill (one of the oldest surviving windmills in the British Isles dating originally from 1571) into a 'Beobachtungsstelle'. This would have led to the removal of the milling machinery. But, due to the polite relationship between the then Seigneur and the German administration, this did not occur. Also, the officer who carried out the conversion liked old machinery. As a result, the absolute minimum of damage was done to the mill. Today, the Seigneural Mill is the only windmill in the Channel Islands, which still has the bulk of it equipment in situ.
@wesleypeters4112
@wesleypeters4112 Жыл бұрын
I love the little animated captions that pop up when an image of the guns comes on the screen. Very high quality content.
@angelagrange1855
@angelagrange1855 Жыл бұрын
I went to the Channel Islands and loved walking around to find all the bunkers and gun placements. It’s such a shame that a lot of it was destroyed. History is amazing and should never be forgotton
@rafaelpontes8739
@rafaelpontes8739 Жыл бұрын
very cool in
@Southprong59
@Southprong59 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately is is being erased and rewritten in the US.
@TheSaltydog07
@TheSaltydog07 Жыл бұрын
Perfect music, Dr. Mark.
@bejohny81
@bejohny81 Жыл бұрын
Wow wow wow! Absolutely the most visually stunning video you’ve done to date. This vid is definitely an instant classical. From the drone shots, to the edited info tags, to the over all editing and impeccably accurate historical knowledge, this vid is a perfect storm!
@PUBHEAD1
@PUBHEAD1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Getting my Friday fix of Felton. Great way to end out the work week Mark. Cheers from Canada
@DBZ483
@DBZ483 Жыл бұрын
Went to jersey around 2005 went in the big bunker and to a lot of the fortifications and stuff but never knew about this! Thanks for another great video as always!
@josephstevens9888
@josephstevens9888 Жыл бұрын
When I was stationed with the USAF on Okinawa in the 1980's, occasionally I would take the ferry to Ie Shima, a small island several miles off Okinawa. During WW2, the USAAF established airfields on Ie Shima (as well as Okinawa) as part of the war effort. A wing of P-47's - as well as other units - flew missions from Ie Shima in the Summer of 1945. When I was stationed there, the Marines had a target range on the island, although the runways were still very evident. Years later, I was reading a book that had pictures of bull dozers pushing the P-47's into an enormous slit trench on Ie Shima only to bury them! This happened, of course, after the war ended. If I would have known that when I was there, I would have try to locate the mass grave of P-47's (and who knows what else was buried there!).
@glennh3977
@glennh3977 Жыл бұрын
At one of the islands in the Pacific there is an area called Million Dollar Point. When the Americans were standing down from the island the local population wanted to keep the Jeeps/Trucks/Bulldozers, etc….The Commanding Officer said okay but you’ll need to purchase them for a million dollars which the locals didn’t have. The CO then ordered all the equipment pushed into the ocean off an elevated area instead of giving it to them. Hence the name Million Dollar Point. Douche move on our part.
@kevinhentze1909
@kevinhentze1909 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Work! The ending is a magnificent piece, where reconstruction and annotation is blended wondrously with the musical score : Pure Historical Magick, Professor Felton! Please, if possible, one of Your marvelous videos on Carinhall - that would be so very appreciated.
@skellcrafter2931
@skellcrafter2931 Жыл бұрын
A relative from my family served as a German soldier in Guernsey. But he died of an illness and lies in the military graveyard there. He was considered missing and no one in the family knew he was there or how he died.
@henriknilsson7851
@henriknilsson7851 Жыл бұрын
You add so much detail and context to WWII history!
@janpierzchala2004
@janpierzchala2004 Жыл бұрын
How did the Germans conquer the islands? Many killed?
@gregiles908
@gregiles908 Жыл бұрын
Met an Australian who told me that he grew up on Guernsey. I told him that I had some ancestry from Guernsey too. He told me about the day when he was about 10yo in around 1960 playing with his mates on Guernsey and they came across an underground storage facility from WW2 up in the hills. There were racks of uniforms, guns, motorbikes with sidecars, all previously undiscovered. Being kids they told the adults and didn't get a thing, he wished they all kept their mouths shut until they were older! He told me about the time on Guernsey in the 1950's that the German Commandant was invited back by the locals, he was welcomed with a tickertape parade and given the keys to the city in a ceremony to thank him for his humanity during the War.
@oreilly1237878
@oreilly1237878 Ай бұрын
I am a Guernseyman This article is untrue,their was no ticker tape parade for a former Nazi commandant of Guernsey.Quite the opposite the Nazis had what amounted to concentration camps on Guernsey for slave workers who were worked to death.Its true the Islanders were more or less not badly treated although nearly all were starving at the end.Most resistance was circumspect .Some Islanders were sent to concentration camps for resistance.😊The British authorities had ordered the Guernsey authorities to play it cool with the Germans as they didn't want the entire lot shipped off to concentration camps.The patriotism of the Islanders never wavered and was always strong.I am proud to be a Guernseyman and part of this tough friendly unwaveringly patriotic Island race.
@ryane3703
@ryane3703 Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating place used for arms dumping is Beaufort's Dyke between northern Ireland and Scotland, an underwater trench where munitions were dumped after the second World War. Bombs from the trench occasionally wash up on coasts in the area and when some of them exploded underwater in the 80s it registered as 2.5 on the richter scale. As well as being an interesting historical tidbit and minor nuisance it's right in the middle of the most practical route for a potential bridge or tunnel across the Irish Sea.
@jamesbingham4538
@jamesbingham4538 Жыл бұрын
Incredible to see the enormous number of weapons, both huge caliber and smaller that were left after the war was over. Thank you, Dr. Felton!
@desmcharris
@desmcharris Жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation once more Dr Felton! Enjoyed the very evocative music the end! War is mind bending in its wasteful nature. The vast wealth spent in armaments is staggering, let alone the wastage of Human life. Thank you for these insightful presentations.
@pjotrtje0NL
@pjotrtje0NL Жыл бұрын
What an amazing soundtrack under the part with the big guns!
@russbringhurst9972
@russbringhurst9972 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Jersey in 1976 in St. Brelade. Is the underground German hospital still a museum? It was amazing! What I remember most was seeing the letter the German forces sent to the Bailiff of Jersey, informing them that they would occupy the island in June 1940. Jersey is one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever seen. Thanks for your wonderful videos!
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's still a museum and a fascinating place to visit if you have any interest in what happened to the Channel Islands during the Nazi occupation of them. My wife and I have visited Jersey twice about six and seven years ago we hired a car and went right round the island, so peaceful now. However we visited the North west area and the fortifications, but were never told about the artillery pieces thrown down the cliffs. I would like to have seen them for myself. Maybe we will go there again and I will definitely try to see them somehow, but not climbing down the cliffs as some of the Jersey residents did as children according to the posts on here above. Being nearly 70 years of age and with arthritic knees and a bad back I think I might well get to the bottom in around the same speed as the big guns did !
@nancymilawski1048
@nancymilawski1048 Жыл бұрын
@@samrodian919 maybe a boat with the right wind and wave conditions would be a way to see them?
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Жыл бұрын
@@nancymilawski1048 yes that's certainly a possibility if there are boat trips around the island in summer, I don't know because both our trips were in late October and January.
@malcomlovejoy
@malcomlovejoy Жыл бұрын
Wow impressive score accompanying the cliff shots, Dr. Felton
@kylejameshastings6507
@kylejameshastings6507 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video to listen to for the commute to work!
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 Жыл бұрын
My late father was in the 2nd AIF, mostly in New Guinea during WW2. After the Japanese surrender, the massive cleanup began. This included the loading of near new GMC American trucks, bulldozers, 4WD vehicles & the like being launched off the ships decks, whilst running, into the oceans depths. Dad said to me “It just seemed so damn wrong to destroy all this amazing, wonderful machinery!”
@northdakotaham1752
@northdakotaham1752 Жыл бұрын
I was told about this also years back from an old Marine who was a farmer prior to his military service. Brand new Caterpillar D4 tractors, just run over the side into the ocean. He said they were not allowed to be returned to the U.S.
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 Жыл бұрын
@@northdakotaham1752 Supposedly because it would cause a world wide glut of machinery. Meaning there’d be no manufacturing for many years! False economics?…
@northdakotaham1752
@northdakotaham1752 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewd7586 maybe not world wide...but certainly U.S. wide. The manufacturers had some fine print....."No Returns, No Refunds"
@coolhand1964
@coolhand1964 Жыл бұрын
In 1946, the Australian Government began returning to the Pacific Islands and recovered hundreds of these pieces of machinery and returned them to Australia where large mechanical workshops were set up and hundreds of returned servicemen were employed in they're restoration. This was done to provide a machinery pool, similar to that of the Military, where tradesmen could request trucks, bulldozers forklifts, cranes, etc, for use as they sought to return to civilian life and continue returning industry to normal practice after being on a war footing. It was called the 'Commonwealth Handling Equipment Pool'. To this day, there are hardwood pallets used for transport of goods with the acronym 'CHEP' painted on the side, and exist all over the country in their thousands in factories and warehouses. When I first read of the history I thought, what a remarkable idea that was at the time. 👍🇦🇺
@Baza1964
@Baza1964 7 ай бұрын
@@coolhand1964 WOW just WOW , I never knew what the CHEP stood for , I forklifted 1000's of those pallets over the3 years. Thanks.
@djosbun
@djosbun Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video! Mark comes up with the most impressive historical facts on WW2 than any other historian that I know of.
@themaximumgamer7834
@themaximumgamer7834 Жыл бұрын
As I jersey born (kiwi raised) lover of history, I love seeing content relating to my home and the conflict history such as ww2 and the battle of jersey
@andrewedwards2211
@andrewedwards2211 Жыл бұрын
Dear Mark, you inspire. I want to go to your nation and learn all i possibly can , however mundane or irrelevant history may look on the surface. You are a gem to history livers worldwide. Words from New York.
@thomaskeil1437
@thomaskeil1437 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a park near San Diego, where a cemetery was cleared of the headstones and monuments by tossing them into a nearby ravine. Apparently, the graves themselves were not disturbed or remains disinterred. I've sometimes wondered whether family members of the deceased were consulted and in addition, whether the laying of pipes for irrigation for sprinklers have disturbed the unopened graves. Great video.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 Жыл бұрын
What a remarkable story . Thank you for this fascinating bit of history !
@kevintynan796
@kevintynan796 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, great choice of music as we view the discarded guns at the foot of the cliff. No words required, just the dramatic and rather sad music.
@aldostefanini1392
@aldostefanini1392 Жыл бұрын
So sad. What a waste of excellent weapons. My poor grandfathers are turning in their grave with sadness. Excellent episode again Dr Felton. Greetings from South Africa
@jimpad5608
@jimpad5608 Жыл бұрын
All of that steel is extremely valuable. Steel made before 1945 has unique properties that can no longer be made so there is a good market for old steel. I will not be surprised if all of those old guns are recovered and reused in the next few years.
@louisliu5638
@louisliu5638 Жыл бұрын
I cleared out the Georgia Hotel in Van Canada and the old bedspring steel goes back to 1911 . Man, you can't cut that stuff it's so hard. And seems to get HARDER WITH age. !!!
@jamieholland3853
@jamieholland3853 Жыл бұрын
Pre-war steel is un-tainted with atmospheric radiation from the detonation of nuclear weapons in the 50's, it is useful for sensors but we are quickly getting to the point where it has dissipated enough that this steel is only necessary for ultra accurate sensors, this is why chinese boats have recently been caught scavenging ship wreckages
@pocketsand4404
@pocketsand4404 Жыл бұрын
I never get tired of these videos. Always a pleasure to watch these informational videos of WW2.
@av8tore71
@av8tore71 Жыл бұрын
When I was stationed in Germany I would go around usually on the weekends when I'm not doing anything and look at World war II stuff like the Krupp Decoy building Krupp made heave guns, tanks, armor plates and submarines for the German war effort. Very interesting for me to see what things were at one time
@jon759
@jon759 Жыл бұрын
Great documentary as usual mark but I felt the need to give very special recognition to your editor for that music score, sensational.
@keithweiss7899
@keithweiss7899 Жыл бұрын
My cousin dumped huge barge loads of Japanese weapons in the deep ocean after the war. He said it was fun to shoot them until they were red hot and then dump them. But he also regretted that he didn’t keep some of the Baby Nambu pistols he dumped!
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that before some of the Japanese weapons were dumped at sea local occupation troops were told "Come on down and get a souvenir if you want!" Some did, some didn't, but interestingly most Japanese WW2 rifles you see here in the US ARE those souvenired guns, easy to tell since they're the ones with the imperial chrysanthemum ground off the receiver. A Japanese rifle with the mum intact is a battlefield pick-up and not as common as the others.
@keithweiss7899
@keithweiss7899 Жыл бұрын
That explains a lot. I have a few of the rifles with the chrysanthemum on them and I’ve seen ones with them ground off. I’ve wondered why they were defaced. Thanks!
@DazednConfused0
@DazednConfused0 Жыл бұрын
The difficulty in retrieving them in modern day is a testament to the effort of putting them there in the first place. Considering the amount of time they have been sitting there many look in exceptionally good condition. Great video as always. Thanks
@paulvallejo
@paulvallejo Жыл бұрын
Sad as it is to see all that history dumped there, the actual dumping grounds are an interesting part of history. One of the sites I work at is the 100 ton gun in Gibraltar and I'd love to be able to see photographic records of where the original gun ended up
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 Жыл бұрын
I've sat in the Sechsschartentürm at La Mare Mill, St Peter, which is very well preserved, and, as an ex-infantryman, been impressed and in equal parts terrified at the skill with which the defences were put together, layered and fortified. Over 800m off the beach, armed with heavy machine guns embedded in cast iron and hidden among strewn rocks, all served from deep chambers far below. It would have been difficult to locate and even harder to neutralise - and it was just one among many interlocked defences, infantry and artillery, defending the bay west of the airfield. I highly recommend the guided tours available - there is so much underground that you don't get to see from the surface. I would personally recommend Marc Yates's Jersey Military Tours.
@migueldelacruz4799
@migueldelacruz4799 Жыл бұрын
What a waste of artillery
@Pwn3dbyth3n00b
@Pwn3dbyth3n00b Жыл бұрын
That's the point
@JohnCamp
@JohnCamp Жыл бұрын
Korea and Taiwan would have liked to have them in the then near future.
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 Жыл бұрын
@@Enxuvjeshxuf More gun will be made anyway so might as well reuse old ones and then you don't have to waste metal making new ones.
@Radbot776
@Radbot776 Жыл бұрын
Yea insane waste, that’s some beautiful high quality non Jewish Swedish-German steel, they could have made some nice Damascus knifes or other nice things from all the steel Sad to see it rot like that
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 Жыл бұрын
@@Radbot776 Metal doesn't rot.
@joetheplumber5781
@joetheplumber5781 Жыл бұрын
Such a pleasure to watch your videos Dr. Felton. Thank you!
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER Жыл бұрын
Fascinating thanks.
@DarkMatterX1
@DarkMatterX1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The final aerial footage and the accompanying score are exceptional. You are an almost unmatched documentary filmmaker. Thank you for your content.
@jcwoodman5285
@jcwoodman5285 Жыл бұрын
Those German troops on the islands were undoubtedly the LUCKIEST German military anywhere!
@Lerxstification
@Lerxstification Жыл бұрын
OMG, right?? No battles, plenty of food and booze, and probs women, too. Just hangin out on the islands.
@FallNorth
@FallNorth Жыл бұрын
@@Lerxstification No crime either, a very young Bergerac took care of that.
@Free-Bodge79
@Free-Bodge79 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff. Once again. Thank you to the good doctor. ! Wouldn't the quality of the metal hold a significant scrap value. Id have one as a garden feature ,if I lived there and could think of a way to get at one. Amazing that they're still just laying where they are. God dam ,I love these videos. Just brilliant. Even getting some new fancy graphics and over lays. 💛👊👍 top notch !
@colinfaed5910
@colinfaed5910 Жыл бұрын
Recover would cost more than the scrap value. They are worth more as display pieces, but some are too heavy for a helicopter to lift, I saw a Sea King trying to lift one many years age, they throttled up, but it didn't budge, all that happened was the blades bent up at the tips!
@Free-Bodge79
@Free-Bodge79 Жыл бұрын
@@colinfaed5910 that would have been quite a thing to witness. Brilliant. 👍💛 It'll get to a point where the balance tips and there will be a mass grab of them, I should think this video will help. Nice one. 👊
@josephvandyck5469
@josephvandyck5469 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding information and research that is a hallmark of a Mark Felton video. Thank you very much from one military history nerd to another.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
Well I guess if those things are just laying around unattended anyone with the wherewithal might as well go and help themselves to them! Talk about the ultimate lawn ornament! 🤩 Seriously though, if anyone's in the Lansdale PA area you can see two examples of those French M1917 155mm guns on display in Memorial Park. Used by the US Army during WW1 they're the same kind of guns used by the Germans on the Channel Islands. Great video Dr. Felton, as always!
@feddek9325
@feddek9325 Жыл бұрын
I've been inside of battery Lothringen when i was working on Jersey in 2015. Nice place and nice poeple living the island live.
@Wideoval73
@Wideoval73 Жыл бұрын
Once again an excellent video of a topic I new very little about. Thank you and keep up the great work.
@lhkraut
@lhkraut Жыл бұрын
It's heartbreaking to think of all of the history we dump, or destroy, after wars.
@northdakotaham1752
@northdakotaham1752 Жыл бұрын
or the tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer paid military equipment abandoned to be re-purposed by our enemy.....just recently.
@lhkraut
@lhkraut Жыл бұрын
@@northdakotaham1752 That's even worse!
@arlen_95
@arlen_95 Жыл бұрын
Love the new graphics labeling the guns! Great work Dr. Felton 👍
@Einwetok
@Einwetok Жыл бұрын
I've seen some of that bunker architecture revisited, usually in sci-fi art. When you hear about the higher value of pre 45 steel, it's surprising no one has recovered what's left there. Even with the difficulty.
@Willard05
@Willard05 Жыл бұрын
As far as I’m aware pre atomic steel has to have been protected from the atmosphere by for example a minimum of 10m of seawater in order to maintain the qualities that make it valuable
@jahmanoog461
@jahmanoog461 Жыл бұрын
Good one, organic photos, thrown off a cliff. Very dramatic music.
@clemenshampel
@clemenshampel Жыл бұрын
Historic side note: When i visited Jersey several of the ammunition bunkers are today used for commercial mushroom farming, The Underground Hospital is also certainly a place to visit. An unfortunate fact is that forced laborers of the SS had to build all that and that Alderney was the main concentration camp.
@stlrockn
@stlrockn Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Can't get enough of this stuff Mark. An excellent channel. Keep up the good work!
@hansvonmannschaft9062
@hansvonmannschaft9062 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Also quite interesting to see what seems to be the whole population of Jersey commenting 😀 And something else, never the least... I've been watching Mark's channel for years, he's never repeated a vid or subject... he keeps finding stuff and always with solid background info 👍🏼👍🏼
@warpo007
@warpo007 Жыл бұрын
This is the history content we love you for, Mr Felton
@marc1829
@marc1829 Жыл бұрын
Your YT videos really are little jewels, Doc. Rare and original detail embedded in finely-wrought and precise narrative 🤩
@irish3335
@irish3335 Жыл бұрын
Had they kept those guns/emplacements intact that island would be a huge tourist attraction today - thus the reason they started to recover and restore them!- thanks for another great video Dr Felton !
@jonmulack4226
@jonmulack4226 Жыл бұрын
Or took them out to keep them away. Sorry I live in a tourist area.
@lawrup
@lawrup Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing content keep it up
@jerrydeanswanson79
@jerrydeanswanson79 Жыл бұрын
Afternoon Mark...thanks for the video. So envious of your visits to these places.
@danielsweeney6742
@danielsweeney6742 Жыл бұрын
You know I’m amazed on how well (I think) Mark pronounces the German words. Awesome job in every video!
@waynemanning3262
@waynemanning3262 Жыл бұрын
I was in Jersey in 2019, what a great place was only there for 3 days but plan on going back for a longer time! Saw the guns on display but had no idea about the dumped guns below. Well worth a visit for a great vacation!
@paulkoza8652
@paulkoza8652 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many of the captured Germans on the Channel Islands are thankful that Hitler kept them garrisoned there instead of using them as cannon fodder on the mainland. Of course this is all hindsight. But still, they were lucky.
@louisavondart9178
@louisavondart9178 Жыл бұрын
Same for the 400,000 German troops stationed in Norway.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын
I've read the German troops on the Channel Islands (the army personnel anyway) were very well behaved. Service on the Channel Islands beat the hell out of service in Russia so they weren't going to do anything that would get themselves in trouble!
@CarlJohnson-wk3rv
@CarlJohnson-wk3rv Жыл бұрын
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 other than the concentration camp or the thousands of POW slave labourers or the thousands of locals starved or those shot for having radios. But yes, very well behaved.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Жыл бұрын
I helped build the Hong Kong campus for the University of Chicago business school (Booth), we had to work around WW2 defensive gun emplacements on the mountain, they’re classified as heritage sites. Was so cool going to them and getting the wide & expansive view of the bay and imagining the invading ships headed in. Dad was stationed in Japan during Vietnam, outside Tokyo, and was a scoutmaster for the base troop. Have pics of them out camping and standing next to WW2 AA battery emplacements used to defend Tokyo. I’m glad all these sites are being preserved as much as possible for future generations to see. The way the world is going, you never know, they might need to be reactivated.
@01cthompson
@01cthompson Жыл бұрын
I constantly wonder what Germany could have accomplished if all their steel and industrial know how had been used for peaceful enterprises.
@chrisbates8943
@chrisbates8943 Жыл бұрын
I paddle past these all the time. Jersey is full of incredible WW2 history.
@PMediaUK365
@PMediaUK365 Жыл бұрын
I live in Jersey, and loved bunker hunting, did it more as a kid then now days. I have seen these gun from the cliff side but never been down to them. Great video.
@Roller_Ghoster
@Roller_Ghoster Жыл бұрын
Imagine a graveyard for those railway guns! You'd need a whole city block.
@goldgeologist5320
@goldgeologist5320 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the big railroad guns?
@Isaac-ez8jc
@Isaac-ez8jc Жыл бұрын
@@goldgeologist5320 wherent they just bombed to hell by bombers
@brucewarren3562
@brucewarren3562 Жыл бұрын
This is the next best thing to visiting the sites in person! Excellent as always! ❤
@ChristianThomas-wf5dl
@ChristianThomas-wf5dl Жыл бұрын
It's a wonder how th Germans got the guns there and mounted.them, all without a helicopter... Got give up for the German engineers.
@stuarthart3370
@stuarthart3370 Жыл бұрын
I worked a while with a German guy who'd done his service with the engineers. He told me that his dad did general haulage after the war with a beat up ex military truck. His greatest advice to his son was, remember! during a recession you can always collect scrap. I absolutely love German engineering. :-)
@billlombard9911
@billlombard9911 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, another excellent installment in your series, thank you Dr. Felton
@StalinTheMan0fSteel
@StalinTheMan0fSteel Жыл бұрын
What a waste of resources! Like Hitler refusing to evacuate Army Group Courland because of some delusion the British and American were going to declare war on the Soviet Union and needed a staging area! LOL!
@warpaw53
@warpaw53 Жыл бұрын
Implied in Dr. Felton's typically well-researched and smartly produced and edited video is the truth that by this stage of the war Hitler literally couldn't think straight and his decisions -with a few exceptions-ranged from bad to disastrous-at a time when there was no room for error. In this case, consider how useful an infantry division with supplies and full kit, several batteries of heavy artillery and tons of ferroconcrete and other fortification materials could have been if incorporated into the mainland Atlantic Wall defense belt...
@agonzalez1507
@agonzalez1507 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel Mark. Your videos transport me to history. Greetings from Puerto Rico.
@bradvincet1848
@bradvincet1848 Жыл бұрын
A video about must-see WWI and WWII sites and museums would be a great idea for tourists.
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
This is incredible! Thank you.
@jerrymandarren
@jerrymandarren Жыл бұрын
For the love of god Dr please continue to provide the world with priceless research and information. IT IS MOVING and impactful to us younger ones to understand and comprehend the size and scale that was WW2.
@regu6582
@regu6582 Жыл бұрын
I recall my history teacher in grade eight or so (early 70's) who was a refugee from Germany in the late 40's telling us he was a young "volunteer"and was stationed in the Channel Islands. I don't remember which of them it was, but he did say it was better duty than the Ost where a few close family never returned. Always stuck with me in my privileged life, considering.
@gary6300
@gary6300 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, Thank you for the video. Me and my wife was in Jersey last September and we went to most German bunkers they also got the jerset tunnels which was fantastic also one guy as a museum in one of the bunkers the stuff in there was amazing and it all belongs to 1 guy and he sells original german items as well to fund the bunker. going back this year as Jersey is fantastic place to go for a holiday and search out the other bunkers. Cheers Gary 🇬🇧
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