Dustin Hoffman and John Oliver Clash Over Sexual Harassment Allegations | WWD

John Oliver hammered Dustin Hoffman last night about sexual harassment allegations at what was meant to be a panel discussion surrounding the 20th anniversary of the movie 'Wag the Dog.'
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[@brettfavreify]

Kudos to John Oliver. Never be afraid to ask a question that deserves to be asked.

[@ruly8153]

It’s a bit inappropriate to just start talking about that at a 20th anniversary for a film. He’s just looking for praise and attention

[@antoniebui5106]

@@ruly8153 even the people who set up this round knew that John was going to ask Dustin about this and they approved. If they do why should we not

[@michaelbarrett672]

The new McCarthyism.

[@truthof7382]

It was a sleazy move to gain notoriety. And your the proof that sleaze works.

[@ratso69ful81]

Robert De Niro's best acting to date of pretending to be a statue...

[@sidshandilya2442]

He is always that

[@danv1606]

hofman said he didnt even know her then 10 seconds later explains the exact scenario of them together ;D

[@simonaschmidt]

The women become faceless, nameless...

[@madmaddie1702]

he spoke of two different incidents, listen better

[@squaretriangle9208]

@@simonaschmidt first listen then judge

[@ereny.2744]

"Aaaaand the Oscar goes to.... Robert De Niro in "I'm playing a statue of my self on a stage somewhere". Congratulations, Bobby!"

[@randyking3057]

Totally. I was impressed.

[@Wolfgangus_Theophilus]

That would be a Tony. This is not a movie.

[@tonym994]

@@Wolfgangus_Theophilus true, he was 'working' on stage at the time. Oliver was on a podcast where he said that after he thought he had the subject covered, Hoffman came back to it again. he wasn't there to host a fucking seminar on accusations against Dustin Hoffman.

[@KieranHolroyd]

4:15 "i didn't know these girls we're 17 years old". after not knowing and never meeting a girl at the start of this

[@julierogers1155]

EXACTLY.

[@heatherbotez]

awkward...weird the way that question was answered with a non answer...John Oliver was respectful

[@krystle3580]

2:45 Hoffman demonstrates a moment when a woman got upset at him for touching her by touching the woman next to him in the same way. Brilliant logic.

[@ayoutubechannel864]

My jaw went to the ground! He clearly has no sense of body language. Her body is turned away from him and would've probably slapped him if they were in private

[@julierogers1155]

@@ayoutubechannel864 Dustin Hoffman is retarded when it comes to personal boundaries.

[@MxtrZ]

Thank you!!!! I was like "really, Dustin?" He truly has no idea what he's doing at all.

[@ETalamante]

And this is why I watch John Oliver. He’s honest and respectful without backing down on what needs said.

[@petermurray42]

Yes! At least some people out there actually have the balls to bring up important topics.

[@arhanya8552]

Now ppl decide on the basis of accusation in some public interview. Why didn't she filed the complaint? No but that will not give her the publicity she needs. These women will sleep happily to further their chances but if some guy maintains morals and says no then easy to accuse that guy and get the publicity they want. Shame on these women and their pathetic supporters. idiotic lying media revels in this. John oliver knows nothing but passes off as some sort of expert for these idiotic masses who trust these lying comedians.

[@bd9267]

John Oliver is massive piece of shit and a compulsive liar though.

[@stt.9433]

first of off I think it's very important to clarify there is no proof of sexual harrassment. It's merely an allegation with little to no credibility. sexual harrasser are almost always repeat offendors so we would be hearing stories from multiple women not just one. There is also no legal basis here because the woman waited 40 years to talk about this whilst in law you need to press charges within 3 years. Edit: There are multiple women coming out with worse stories. I take it back, this guy is probably a sexual harrasser.

[@chriswilliams7958]

B D Says the random 2 letter username on KZbin- your value is 0%

[@lazyteddiursa7160]

@@bd9267 citation?

[@kathrinbauer5358]

I just love John Oliver. I love that he insists, I love how he reacted to the "she apologized afterward" part. I can't believe that this woman in the audience just asked him to let it go and even had the nerves to call "shame on you".

[@firenze5555]

The woman in the audience was probably Hoffman's wife!

[@cctomcat321]

firenze55 or from Alabama..

[@dinningsfamily6619]

It has happened to me that we were with friends and there was a girl who always made loud and physical jokes and physically touched everyone -pushing, hugging, even groping. Once as we were joking around, she said a really rude sexual joke to me and in response while laughing I pinched her in the waist and said oh piss off. Suddenly completely out of nowhere she jumps up, shouts at me dont you EVER touch me like that again, and walks out. Everyone is literally left standing with their mouths open. Our friends even though they know I would never sexually harass anyone, shocked by the severity of her reaction, start asking, hey man did you by any chance without meaning to, touch her inappropriately or has something happened between you... Fortunately one of her friends was sitting right next to me, and she said no the dude didnt do anything shady, I saw the whole thing, they were just joking...She is just a bit unpredictable, she has strange reactions... That girl later apologized, and I really think its good that she did. Not saying this is definitely what happened with Dustin, just saying its possible, and also saying innocent till proven guilty. If I was a professional actor and at the opening of a movie that will give me and my crew money to feed our families, someone mentioned that incident assuming I am guilty every step of the way and lecturing me on things I already know, I too would be very upset.

[@kathrinbauer5358]

V. V hahahaha somebody got triggered really badly. Man, you can't expect being taken seriously if you debate like that.

[@airjawcruz]

if you ever become famous she's gonna do "metoo" years later and you're going to be smeared on stage as a sexual predator

[@jaliz2000]

What Dustin did is to justify his actions by saying that he was taught to want the model on the cover. Essentially telling you that he is a 'good guy' and dismissing egregious behaviour.

[@yowodup6094]

That does play a part, if the society you live in has that kind of toxicity. Even so it does not justify his actions. No one will ever truly know what happened but considering the times and the height of his career it's most likely going to be the same case for most celebrities. I don't think he is a bad person, but just made terrible choices.

[@plantpowered269]

that is like Hitler would say, "I just wanted to be an artist, but they rejected me at the painting school, so I had no choice but to become a nazi leader!"

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

Yeah it is a bit like listening to Lance Armstrong justify doping in Tour de France. But to compare this to Harvey Weinstein or Adolf Hitler, is insane and very wrong.

[@oldiesfreek]

De Niro's like "you not talkin' to me?"...

[@beth-bi9yv]

Thank you John Oliver for having the integrity and balls for challenging this sexual predator.

[@andrewmulindwa1182]

Awkward interview. I am glad Oliver brought it up and didn't choose the politically correct.

[@SorchaSublime]

wut? bringing it up WAS the politically correct choice Andrew.

[@ruly8153]

@@SorchaSublime Was it though? It was just inappropriate

[@SorchaSublime]

@@ruly8153 in what way is it inappropriate to bring up someones sexual harassment allegations when interviewing them? it would have been inappropriate to try and avoid the subject.

[@NPA1001]

After calling out Trump for his sexual misconduct John would have been called a hypocrite if he’d just sat there being chummy with Hoffman and not brought it up.

[@pd4887]

Wow, after hearing Dustin I actually more inclined to believe the woman. See how he tried to make Oliver seem at some kind of fault, he agreed to talk about this backstage and now he acts offended and surprised?! Yeah

[@victo2440]

How do you know what they talked about backstage?

[@dmann1115]

I agree, Hoffman's responses worsen his position considerably.

[@cerealcreepersdfds9522]

john oliver even publicly stated that he warned that if hoffman was gonna be there he would have to ask him about it, the guy gave every warning, Hoffman has no right ot be suprised

[@pd4887]

Big Boss you watch the whooooole video, that’s how

[@pd4887]

ALAN LAWRENCE I watched the full video that’s how imbecile, moron, degenerate sad old, dotard troll with no actual life : ) does that describe you fuly heheheh (edited to add more insulting words)

[@NightsauceHQ]

He went from I don't remember that woman to a very detailed anecdote, with a specific verbal exchange recounted.

[@kedronadamant1355]

He was describing another situation as an example of "between the takes" behavior of the day.

[@babykosh5415]

GOOD CATCH....you're right I missed that.

[@MrYWarnock]

He was talking about Katherine Ross from the set of The Graduate. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYLQg4p9n9uSp5Y

[@NightsauceHQ]

So many groupies on this comment stream. Or are you just pigs afraid of a better fairer world?

[@valerierodger7700]

Yeah, he respects women and did nothing wrong and would never do anything like that, but that behaviour is totally acceptable if you're doing it between takes and everybody is one big happy family and nothing needs to change. Hoffman really should have just stopped talking. His responses made me go from "who know what really happened" to "he's clearly part of the problem and I'd be surprised if he hadn't been groping and harassing women."

[@dmann1115]

Considering that once upon a time, Hoffman played Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein, his protest about not agreeing to the question in advance is pretty dismal.

[@julierogers1155]

Ha! Solid point. Well done.

[@crismeloearth]

I love seeing everyone's legs speaking. lol

[@blakechasteen]

Cris Melo whoa

[@egogeo851]

I like the logo

[@crismeloearth]

nonverbal communication, baby

[@nancymcbride7153]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@karenalex]

If legs have anything to go by Dustin Hoffman looks quite upfront and honest.

[@side-eyewarrior823]

De Niro looks so uncomfortable 😆

[@nopo8011]

Poi Yun He's like "why am I here"

[@NoktynGaming]

even John Oliver was like, "you really want me here? I'm going to ask about this."

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

Oh, it is just a matter of weeks and some gold digger will accuse De Niro as well.

[@NoktynGaming]

+Herr Schmidt, "gold digger" Lol. Someone seriously doesn't understand what speaking up against behavior like that entails.Even if De Niro were accused, those women aren't getting anything from it? You think the 20 named Women who spoke up against Trump got a bunch of money for no reason? You think that the 8 or so against Franken got a lot of money for saying what they said? The neurotic, toxic misogynistic attitude you people have is really only damaging to yourselves. These words aren't going to hurt the strong people that have come out against these people in power and your "predicting" another allegation is not going to lessen their complaints.

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

So you say every woman who accuses a movie star in order to sell her book automatically tells the truth? Because that is what *you* are implying. There is a culture of abuse in Hollywood, but instead of adressing it, people like you look for big names and enjoy when they get taken down, no matter how flimsy the accusations are. While the unknown agents, producers and casting agents get your absolution to rape as much as they want. Because you are simply not interested in evidence, plausibility or facts. It is all about big names and juicy scandals. This wave will roll out and nothing will have changed, and simpletons like you will be happy with the result.

[@simonaschmidt]

What a disgrace. You can feel Dustin's dodginess just as we feel John's goodness. Your words mean nothing. NOTHING Dustin.

[@torestrand2663]

I quote from Dustin himself: "Don't ever do that again! And then she apologized". Dustin's own "defense". He has no clue. Any sane (not famous) grown man would have understood that he went too far. Not Dustin. He is a good actor, but seems like a horrible person.

[@vegancookiesjp]

I'm not one to jump at allegations against people at least not so harshly but Dustin's reactions and the way he explains himself seems so ridiculously guilty of something

[@donnaflowers6326]

Hoffman claims he does not know her but can tell what happened? Sounds guilty to me,.

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

He can tell what happened as he remembers the spirit on the set. If you ever visited a movie set, you'd know that it is impossible to keep in mind who was there, including all interns and runners.

[@DavitBarbakadze]

The story about what happened was about another woman.

[@livvysmi]

Nihilist no the problem is the fucking sexual assault that occurred.

[@TomPraytor]

Thank god you're not a judge. You condemned a man in seconds. You are what's wrong with the world.

[@maxmeier532]

Everyone has to calm down and get some 50 shades of grey into the argument. If we call a touch, a pinch or a grab on someone's ass sexual assault, which may be technically correct, we make the mistake of losing differentiation of acts and people who commit the act. Why? Because sexual assault also includes anal rape of children. And we cant possibly want to imply grabbing a 17 year old on her butt (which is what Hoffmann ALLEGEDLY did) is somehow the same category in what the worst crimes of a child molester are also in. We are talking about Dustin Hoffmann here. The man has been a legend for decades. He is 80 years old. In that 80 years the worst thing he ALLEGEDLY did was grab an 17 year old on her butt. That is not nice, that is not something to be proud of. But it is nothing like roofing and raping women in the dozens, it's nothing like using the casting couch to basically rape aspiring actresses. If Hoffmann did it, he made a mistake. He made that mistake 40 years ago. Everyone has to get fucking over it. If there is a legal case bring it to the legal system, if there is a heinous crime that is past the statue of limitations, make it public. But if it is a grab on the ass 40 fucking years ago- just shut up and swallow it and leave the headline space to more important issues other than your inability to move on and taking responsibility for your own actions.

[@David_Bower]

I'm not John Oliver's greatest fan but he's 100% right to challenge Hoffmann here. Nobody is above the law and it's as if Hoffman feels offended for even being questioned, John's correct in asserting that the alleged victim has no reason to lie.

[@TedGoranson69]

Anyone who says that someone claiming to be a victim 'has no reason to lie' is invariably a fucking weasel.

[@hookingandpecking3125]

This is hard to say..... but I too was raped by David Bower.

[@Gos1234567]

If nobody is above the law,then go to the law then and press charges.The "no reason to lie" stuff is bs,people lie all the time ffs

[@Anas-po1xu]

What crime was committed? He said some things "Allegedly" that made a woman uncomfortable. That's not a crime. Accusations are not always truth, what planet do you people live on? What happened to innocent until proven guilty. Sorry people but that's the country we live in. Thank God! I also believe that unfortunately guilty people sometimes go free, because of lack of evidence. and even more disturbing innocent people get punished for something they didn't do. but I will say this, "I would rather have 1000 guilty people go free for lack of evidence, than see one person spend one day in prison for something they did not do."

[@David_Bower]

John was only asking questions, this was no trial, Dustin agreed to this before the interview, what did John do wrong? If he didn't want to be questioned about these allegations here then he could have agreed beforehand to have been interviewed afterwards instead, even by somebody else providing they wouldn't just give him an easy ride. If I was being wrongfully accused of something similar I'd want to be interviewed immediately to clear my name, I would never have apologised for anything because I hadn't done anything wrong and would have categorically denied every allegation made. Hoffman's reaction and responses I thought were quite telling. I'm no judge and that's why I do say alleged, but the accuser does most certainly sound very believable and I have no reason to doubt her.

[@tak02117]

What a bunch of trolls. The Katherine Ross story is indicative of the denial Dustin Hoffman is going through. He grabbed her ass. She reacted to that. She later apologized for reacting. Hoffman thinks that absolves him. That just shows how much of a different world he lives on.

[@Antares8491]

tak02117 >> _Hoffman thinks that absolves him_

[@tak02117]

Antares8491 that it’s 2017 and he realizes that playing grab-ass with a woman he was working with was wrong.

[@babykosh5415]

HE did not "grab her ass" . if you exaggerate the details then n one is ever going to take you seriously. If I'm wrong show me the evidence.

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

@@babykosh5415 slapping, grabbing, groping, there's really no difference here. They are all equally bad. Don't fucking touch another human beings ass or genitals or breasts etc without their fucking approval. ESPECIALLY NOT when you're working together and have a position of power over her. Disgusting how people still excuse crimes.

[@AnabethalightASMR]

Andreas karlsson so simple yet SO few People understand.

[@BunnyMan456]

I'm glad both of them spoke openly about this. The question needs to be asked, and listened to. And the answer needs to be given, and listened to. Much better form of dialogue than...KZbin comments.

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

I agree I respect them both for doing this

[@jaliz2000]

This is exactly how men get away with this. You have people disgracefully cheering for dustin. Sickening.

[@zoewood555]

V. V -Because this is the first time really that people will actually listen to her rather than just dismissing her as a slut.

[@Darkest209]

Or maybe the crazy nut thinks she can make a few dollars selling her book of lies. But wait she can't be lying if the accused is an old white rich man.

[@jv-lk7bc]

Thing is, this is more complex than many on both sides are acknowledging. Because yes, its entirely true that this sort of reaction IS how men have gotten away with it. ...BUT it wouldn’t work if it wasn’t sometimes true. My feeling on this particular case: Oliver was being fair from his perspective. Its a valid question. Hoffman didn’t handle it well because he’s an old man, a little behind the times now (but was way ahead, in his day - far more so than Oliver is now. And that’s why people still cheer). Hoffman probably didn’t do anything unusual or out of line *for the time*. But he’s being called out because the times have changed, and somebody wanted to boost book sales by attaching a big-name public scandal to it. I think there are bigger fish to fry, and getting bogged down with a borderline case like Hoffman's is a waste of energy at best. I mean, he's not accused of rape or hitting on 14-year-olds or drugging anyone or pressuring into sex or retaliating for a refusal. just trying to cheer someone up in a way thats now considered inappropriate (rightly so) but wasn't 40 years ago. Arguing about whether something that picayune that long ago happened or not just isn't worth our time. Lets spend our energy making sure this doesn't happen *now*.

[@sainter1]

Frankly I'd like to punch that John Oliver in the mouth for being an opportunistic prick - I've heard Hoffman speak of his early sex life and even pinching women on the butts in movies to loosen them up, he's no sexual assaulter and Oliver should know it if he'd bothered to do any research. He did it to Katherine Ross in The Graduate - she was pissed off for a few minutes then realized that yes she was uptight and it showed in her acting. After that they became good friends. This sexual "misconduct" garbage has gone on long enough. Women aren't a protected fucking species, they can't have everything. This witch hunt is all about CONTROL ... women controlling men. Simple as that.

[@razvan2632]

OJ Simpson like

[@astridmourning8468]

His body language screams GUILTY.

[@iikhalaii8784]

More people need to feel the courage to even ask the question. Good on John Oliver.

[@Hazzardworks]

He already admitted to being a ~40yo man and pinching a 17yo's ass.

[@adlerbr12]

John Oliver is a fucking Weasel and you are too for believing allegations with out proof or facts , you SJW are disgusting .

[@Hazzardworks]

Mike Liberty Did you see what I posted up above, sir? He did already admit to something.

[@adlerbr12]

he ADMITTED TO PATTING HER ON THE LEG !!!, MY GOD HE SHOULD BE SHOT!!!, YOU SHOULD HAVE GUTS ENOUGH TO PUT UP A PICTURE OF YOURSELF SO PEOPLE KNOW WHO THEY ARE REPLYING TO A MAN OF A FEMALE .

[@Hazzardworks]

Mike Liberty Not in this interview, sir - I'm referring to another interview which I can link you to if you would like. Also, the reason I do not have a photo of myself is because I use this account to post videos, and this is my logo (not because I don't have the "guts"). It don't believe it should make a difference whether I am male or female, but for your information, I am male. :)

[@lesliemercurio2328]

Wow, just look at the body language of the woman to the right of Dustin

[@tawandamckinney1646]

Lol! Very distant!

[@brodie-tzu4753]

De Niro did those Fockers movies with him. Read his body language. If there were something nice to say he woulda said it.

[@alexgulino335]

Brodie-tzu not only his, check out everyones body language. They are all positioning themselves away from hoffman(the crossed legs) except oliver who's facing him.

[@themaninthehighcastle9906]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5OuXp-NlJ2GnJo Robert De Niro & Dustin Hoffman on David Letterman Full Interview

[@denalentz5]

Brodie-tzu That is what I noticed, Robert definitely did not defend Hoffman. At least in Dustin’s day he perhaps didn’t know better, but I hope he learns and apologizes. Boy, does Dustin have a big ego. It shows.

[@dj.mb_one]

i am sure you are expert in human behavior and that why your comment is legit,right ?..on the other side you know shit..you saw nothing and you where not there either ,have you ? i dont say Dustin did ot did not something wrong but your comment is stupid ..it would be the same i wrote on internet. "Brodie-tzu molest animals" will you like it ?

[@dj.mb_one]

Alex keep your "expert" opinion for your self...lol

[@Pontiakos]

Thank you for believing women, John!

[@peaco1000]

He protests a little too much. If a completely untrue allegation is made that is destroying your career, I think most people would be completely categorical and use words like NEVER, LIE, FASLE. When someone give a meandering story and attacks the journalist, it gives me the impression they are not 100% unequivocal.

[@jlkailua]

"He protests a little too much". I don't believe it's possible to protest about sexual abuse or any other injustices too much. When people protest, and you feel uncomfortable, then it forces you to be introspective. Then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way about what he's saying. That's the point to why a person protests. It's meant to rock the boat a little. If you are fine with the way things are, then perhaps you aren't challenging yourself enough. I'm a woman and I know what it's like to be sexually abused. Watching this video after reading Hoffman's accusers story gives me hope that we will begin to talk about our problems as a society in a real and sometimes uncomfortable way. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

[@peaco1000]

I think you misunderstood.I was saying that Dustin Hoffman was protesting too much (from Shakespeare meaning somebody is too defensive indicating guilt). If the allegations had no merit Hoffman would have very quickly and strongly dismissed them, which he didn't do. I 100% agree with you about the importance of protest in general as well as eliminating any and all permissiveness with regard to sexual harassment.

[@nopo8011]

Because he feels like he has to defend his character and clear his name? They're making this one incident that may or may not have happened define who he is. Why would he just let it slide so easily?

[@peaco1000]

Everyone's got a right to defend themselves but if someone accused me of something totally false that is destroying my reputation I wouldn't say things like 'things happened between shoots' and shift responsibility onto someone bringing in young girls. Completely innocent people don't talk like that, guilty people talk like that. I would categorically deny anything happened, call the accusers lies, threaten to sue and move onto the film: the opposite of what he did. Theres also this: www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42291775

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

You mean he doesn't protest enough. Using categorical terms is a stronger denunciation. Pick a lane (although it seems as though he would be damned by you either way, which isn't a great statement on the value of your judgement)

[@shadow8277]

The guy who screamed let it go, mate, it's a movie about sexual assault being buried by powerful men. The irony is in your face.

[@onelyfe76]

People come to see their idols/hero's, etc but than the truth comes out and they do not want to hear any of it. BRAVO to PURE Journalist who confront these type of individuals and put them on the spot. People need to stop putting entertainers, athlete's, politicians, etc on a pedestal otherwise they will be hit harsh reality, case in point, this video.

[@sarah.fb.lindsay]

Everyone's legs are crossed and pointing away from Dustin. No one on that stage believes what he has to say.

[@samuelrobinson1992]

If he doesn't know her, how does he recall everything that happened???

[@Pontiakos]

OMG, I just realized Robert DeNiro was there for this entire tirade by Hoffman. Pure Class!

[@pitti-sing1203]

Let it go?!?! Hell, no! Rambling on Dustin, to no avail.

[@jonahthawne913]

Good on John Oliver.

[@arhanya8552]

Now ppl decide on the basis of accusation in some public interview. Why didn't she filed the complaint? No but that will not give her the publicity she needs. These women will sleep happily to further their chances but if some guy maintains morals and says no then easy to accuse that guy and get the publicity they want. Shame on these women and their pathetic supporters. idiotic lying media revels in this. John oliver knows nothing but passes off as some sort of expert for these idiotic masses who trust these lying comedians.

[@michaelgarza8271]

Dustin Hoffman's countless glorious performances as an actor dwarf any damn thing John Oliver will ever do. I hope this moral hypochondria and hypocrisy disappears forever.

[@julierogers1155]

@@arhanya8552 You are GROSS.

[@julierogers1155]

@@michaelgarza8271 Really? Personally, I'm over watching anything with Dustin Hoffman in it. But all you men keep watching Dustin to your heart's content. Having fun yet?

[@michaelgarza8271]

@@julierogers1155 Have you ever heard of the idea of separating the art from the artist? How old are you? Dustin Hoffman is one of the greatest actors of all time and has been part of the backdrop of my life. You can give him up if you want. Sorry. I won't. Just because we are living in an era of sexual Mcarthyism doesn't mean everyone buys it.

[@tsigala219882]

Before watching this I didn't even know Dustin Hoffman had alleged sexual assault issues-- after watching this I feel a loss of respect for him. How old is this man, to act entirely without grace? This whole talk he's acting with an expectation of belief, everyone should KNOW how amazing he is, how great of a human he's been, his whole air drips with entitlement and childishness. How awful is it that he should have to defend himself or his virtue, huh? I wish women knew what it felt like to be believed without a second thought.

[@iseeicyicetea]

assume that he's innocent for a moment and take his perspective: how the fuck would you feel if half the world accused you of groping a minor when you *know* you didn't do it? and you tell everyone who asks you that you're innocent, but they keep responding with disbelief and act like they know you're guilty? can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't be frustrated and angry? "I wish women knew what it felt like to be believed without a second thought." aren't women more likely to be believed than men when it comes to just about anything? at least that's my personal experience.

[@podingl]

I think it's a fair point if you made a film like Tootsie. I actually do believe Dustin based off his work. Same with Spacey , his films are dark as he turned out to be. I hated Charlie rose as an interviewer. He was bizarre and creepy and I heard him say weird things. Louis ck is a dark comedian. I don't know the truth and neither does a jury so we only ever have evidence as presented. But I respect your opinion.

[@marissaED]

The problem is that he admitted to doing these things. He just doesn't understand that what he did is wrong.

[@podingl]

Marissa Damasceno he did ? When or where because hes denying it here. I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious cuz I hadn't heard that

[@randyking3057]

That's an interesting perspective, Tiana.

[@leahmontgo]

Even if the allegations were false, how could I respect him after seeing him conducting himself so poorly?

[@Keaggan]

Does that matter? He is a stranger to you.

[@sebastiangaleano2041]

@@Keaggan it matters bc he is a public figure, duh

[@JohnDoranDohnJoran]

what documentary are they talking about that Oliver says he'll watch?

[@perimele6]

sooo..dustin dressed up like a woman once and now he knows ALL about sexism and is going to explain it to us...he admits he was one of those brutal guys dismissing women, but then denies he was that same guy once there are consequences...this man has creep written all over him.

[@dinningsfamily6619]

This man has honest written all over him. If a man born in the 30s told me he s never been sexist in his life for a second, I would laugh.

[@thesewinggeekmiri9029]

yeah, he's being honest about it, but he's also not owning up to it! He's dismissing it!

[@jinamhall2630]

Dustin you are an actor, you can do anything! Tootsie doesn't prove you are above anything!

[@evastaitz9911]

you are viewing how a predator excuses their behavior.

[@julierogers1155]

Precisely. This. Is. Textbook.

[@perunlowtuned]

Which documentary is Hoffman talking about?

[@Ski3HigH]

"We are one we are a family" WTF does that imply?

[@babykosh5415]

whew...wow...that was heavy....I wasn't even there but I felt the heaviness of being there from this video. wow.

[@averygoslin1962]

People who tell the truth, don't need to apologize.

[@Keaggan]

That is idiotic.

[@acmyoung]

It is not. However, I believe the intent was more along the lines of... People who tell the truth need not be defensive.

[@zembryoz]

That's a glib and shallow statement - people who tell the truth sometimes have to apologise because sometimes apologising is part of the truth and sometimes it's because other people lie and it takes a long time for the truth to be fully revealed.

[@allenlacour7548]

I don't think John had any malice intent with asking the question. I think it took an odd turn in Dustin answering the question. Dustin seemed more offended that he asked the question because his work should tell the world that he is the opposite of what he has been accused of and that is not the case. People aren't going to think you're one way because of some personal experience you've had on a movie set and a private conversation you had with your wife. I, personally, remember him telling the movie set story before, but not everyone heard it and the majority of people believe the worst first.

[@cctomcat321]

According to Oliver (who is a genius at what he does) he had e every intention of asking Hoffman the question when he knew he'd be able to.

[@ereny.2744]

That's correct, Cameron. But in all fairness, he did tell the people organizing this thing that he wouldn't be able NOT to bring up the issue. They said "okay, we still want to be there".

[@cctomcat321]

Eren Y. Right. He said that in the interview. It's not like he "ambushed" them. I'm on his side, I love what Oliver does. I miss my weekly dose of facts in this time of stupidity and alternative facts.

[@ereny.2744]

Same here. I can't wait for "last week tonight.." to return. one of the few quality programs left. The sad thing about it though is that Oliver because of that show has been named as one of the most important and influential journalists in TV. Even he himself is pointing out how crazy that is since he's a comedian (even though a brilliant one) and not a journalist. Says a lot about the American Society

[@cctomcat321]

Eren Y. Well to be fair, news today can't call bullshit on Trump like the satirical news. That's why I love Colbert, Oliver, Meyers, and "Some News" by cracked. If you haven't seen you should check it out.

[@Elstitch]

It is not possible to disprove a 30 year old he said/she said allegation. Every first year law student knows this.

[@concordriverlady7689]

He's never met her. A page from Trump' s book.

[@benjammin4247]

Good thing it wasn't from Bill Clinton's book, she'd have been raped and left with a bloody lip. All she needed, according to Bill, was a little ice.

[@Anthony-pb8ri]

so i guess nobody is going to actually look at the interview john was talking about? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYLQg4p9n9uSp5Y pretty much an admission

[@julierogers1155]

Thanks for the heads-up and the link. I went to it, watched. YEP, an admission.

[@julierogers1155]

I watched it. Thanks for the link. Yes, Hoffman admits it. Creep. The fact that Hoffman cannot admit past wrongs and evolve is his own undoing.

[@gga5360]

Good job John Oliver! Love you!

[@ColaBling]

That women who accused him after 40 years...when he was in his youthful time, two generations later. l got slapped in the arse by elite toffs, because they were told l worked with BBC and since l was a British presenter l was owned in their mind. When the man heard the information, that l was working at the party interviewing celebrities, he raised an eyebrow and said a large OF COURSE YOU ARE A BBC presenter, thought l was going to get a handshake. But no, the slap was so hard that it was assault and l was unable to say anything because it was the end of the party and mostly everyone was drunk. This shite behaviour takes place all the time against women, we are taught to such it up and move on if it just takes place the one time. Had the guy continued... it would've been him meets a badass dangerous lady from Lambeth Brixton.

[@acmyoung]

Many women, myself included, endure this shite daily. In and outside our professions. I am so sorry that you endured and continue to endure it all. I wish we could even imagine a world in which we don't see this behaviour as the standard. Fuck all.

[@keithode1737]

Neither one of you could handle five minutes in the shoes of the average man. Women are so sheltered and naive and narcissistic it defies belief. Men sit around and laugh and how you think you have it hard.

[@TomPraytor]

You got slapped on the ass. It's a miracle you're still living to this day. The courage it must take to go on everyday.

[@joshuagraham967]

@@keithode1737 Hey shit head, she didn't compare her situation to serving on Iraq, she was just pointing out a case of a guy being an asshole.

[@Rose-hh7mk]

It's sad she felt she needed to apologise for being upset over being sexually harrassed

[@valochedesigns]

Thank you to John Oliver for bringing this up.

[@valochedesigns]

Barry Jennings yes.

[@gregjarnigan1]

I love it. All these old pervs need to be called-out & held accountable for their actions.

[@bulllea]

if she waited few more years for the disclosure ... the show could be recorded on Mars . or even Saturn .

[@julierogers1155]

It is happening, to some extent. And these OLD DINOSAURS, like Dustin Hoffman, are going TO GATHER DUST in some corner while the rest of society EVOLVES and moves on. Good riddance to Dustin. WE. DON'T. NEED. HIS. CREEPY. KIND.

[@maggiemizrachi513]

You go Johnny boy!!! I'm sure no one dare challenge Dusty!! Although..not for nothing... why the wait? ..I'm not getting it... My honor and self worth is more important than my career!!!

[@mixedman841]

He doesn't know who she is but was very good friends on the set.

[@charlesgreen632]

Brilliant angle but should've been front row with a better hidden camera🤔

[@sabeaniebaby]

Complete failure (on Hoffman's part) to see things from the victim's perspective. Apparently, having a large audience during the offending event makes it ok.

[@widerling]

Boohoo, Dustin. You are upset. Well, you don't even call the woman by her name but as some "intern". You wield your power on set to humiliate, harass and taunt her. You apologised, then changed your mind and claim you don't remember her. You find creative strategy as an actor to avoid guilt and continue to postulate as a victim. You deserve an award, Mr. Method.

[@widerling]

The You Tuba Well, you smackhead, that's exactly the point. People in power who can't remember their victims are the cretinous bottom pilers and you clearly belong to them.

[@valerierodger7700]

Not to mention defending the behaviour in general, dismissing it as stress relief, and saying that the culture doesn't need to change. Okay, that really sounds like you didn't do anything wrong.

[@widerling]

V. V No, luckily your mum was kind enough to assist my writer's block. Thank you for you kind words. :)

[@iseeicyicetea]

widerling and why exactly are you presuming his guilt? because he's white, male and old? Valerie Rodger "not to mention defending the behaviour in general" can you point to anywhere in the video where he defended sexual misconduct?

[@arhanya8552]

yeah bec. he will remember the name of some intern after she filed a false accusation on him. He just tried to explain the incident as it may have happened. And why do u know his name? did u knew that intern name earlier? it appears she got what she wanted that ppl know her without even doing anything worthwhile.

[@princesseleamay]

hey guys! english is not my first language..can someone tell me what are the people in the audience yelling? i heard the one saying "move on" but are there people defending john oliver? i really hope so!! he is so authentic! and so real i looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove him!

[@Fyretyger]

Audio sucks. Can't see, either, with heads in the way.

[@beatrixkiddo7083]

John Oliver is probably the best man in the world.

[@akern8203]

I have mixed feeling about this ...

[@anujbeatles]

This is brutal for both, but especially for Dustin. (I'll try to be fair and self-aware in this comment to the best of my ability). It's sad that someone's entire lifetime of study and work, gets swept out of frame, when you put a magnifying glass over some of the perhaps, glaring missteps they'd taken in that time. I'm not blaming Oliver either, he is being true to himself, pointing out a wrong, while at the same time being respectful where he can. This is actually a really valuable talk, however ugly and painful it may be, for both sides. But we need to understand our behaviour much better in order for our daughters, sisters and mothers to live freely. I know that there's gold-diggers, liars, piece of shit women just as there are men, of course there are, that's just statistics and humans driven, by the arbitrary pressures of the collective struggle of life. This conversation really needed to happen. I am just as proud if not prouder of both men after listening to this, they're both heroes of mine and shall continue to be so, despite doing bad things. There are few true saints and that's ok. There's still a lot of good in the world and we need to keep improving that's all.. because that's the pith of sentience, of being human - To try and keep evolving.

[@jasminehouston-burns1691]

The righteous thing for Hoffman to have done is to just admitted he was wrong instead of really trying to rationalize it.

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

But he did not "rationalize" it, he explained the context and why he was not wrong but it simply was a misundertanding. One does not have to apologize just because people feel offended or misunderstood something. The fact that the accusations went from alleged rape in Weinstein's case to trying to end someone's career by discussing whether touching someone could have been accidental pretty much shows that the sexism problem is not going to be solved by this wave of public outcries, as rather than aiming for the biggest missteps, the target are just the biggest names, no matter how insignificant their actions are compared to the average everyday sexism. Going down that road is a missed opportunity, which might will take the heads of some Louis CK, but will change nothing about the culture.

[@makavelismith]

@@jasminehouston-burns1691 This was all just a witch hunt. Have you ever pinched or poked someone at work? Think about it.... There's a lot of totally innocent contact I've had plenty of women pinch, poke and even a few creepy ones grope me. it's definitely not great and it made things awkward but I write them off as being weird and move on with my life. Who knows which column people fit into, the touchy type of people, or the creepy types. I think the insane outcry that we've seen in holllywood was looking to put everyone into the creepy section along with genuine disgusting creatures like Weinstein. I havent heard anything else about Hoffman, who's been in the business for decades and decades, so I imagine if he were a monster we'd have 30+ accounts of it, don't you?

[@randyking3057]

I love Dusty's platform shoes.

[@crismeloearth]

Thanks, John Oliver! Thank you!

[@crismeloearth]

"no one told us these girls were 17 years old" wwoweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@emmao613]

So painful to watch

[@quattrocchicollectsquattro3228]

John Oliver is a piece of shit.

[@indie9hippie]

Cris Melo because 17 year olds on a set is a normal thing? Give me a break.

[@gigibaheem3462]

I take sexual assault more seriously than many others here (judging from their comments), but what exactly is the point of grilling Dustin Hoffman like this? Is the point to embarrass him? He denies any wrongdoing. We have to leave room for the possibility that he’s telling the truth.

[@pana1129]

"The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty. In many states, presumption of innocence is a legal right of the accused in a criminal trial, and it is an international human right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 11." --Wikipedia

[@julierogers1155]

Not a court of law here. And in the "court of public opinion," Dustin is tanking.

[@johnspence8141]

There's a time and place for everything, this is not the place.

[@julierogers1155]

For me, IT WAS PERFECT.

[@richardmattingly7000]

To Lutscheier, Oliver's admitted that he failed in questioning Hoffman not because he felt that no one would ask about the claims but the actor responses weren't viral on social media and that's what he was after. Matt Lauer deserved losing his job because his behavior was even recorded on tape and when there's corroboration beyond just an accusationn punishment can be justifiable.Memory isn't infallible as time passes because people remember events thru a filter that best serves their viewpoint, indeed you might of be at fault for a fender bender but let a few weeks pass and the other driver was more to blame than you.

[@ridetube66]

This is fucking insane, a grope on the ass 40 years ago, is this a fucking joke or an Orwellian nightmare.

[@marissaED]

We must start teaching the idea of consent, respect and sexual harassment to our kids when they are in middle school. Excusing this behavior doesn't make it OK. Blaming on the times doesn't excuse the behavior. You didn't think it was wrong, but now you should know better. (Won't answer replies so don't bother)

[@danielspaethjr.1235]

I don't think it was appropriate to bring the allegation up in this venue. After what has happened to ALL who are merely alleged without trial, and some alleged denying the allegations, it puts Dustin Hoffman in a position of literally fighting for his life. Meaning his career, his respect, his legacy, his relationship to his community. This is like watching a witch trial where very few survive. It's hard to watch but extremely entertaining, like watching a man defend himself one last chance before he goes to the gallows, trying to convince the towns people not to lynch him, except it's in front of 323 million people.

[@bhk110]

At least he was willing to speak about it. He's of another generation.

[@tomasistudios2618]

does it seem like Dustin Hoffman had a better microphone

[@DronePsyche]

DeNiro sitting there saying nothing

[@BM-wh5qk]

He knows there are probably more then a few young women in the Godfather days that he doesn't want to hear from.

[@jaliz2000]

He is still not willing to truly admit that he harassed a young girl. Dustin you know what you did!

[@l.w.4701]

He probably doesn’t “know” what he did because it challenges his self-image too much.

[@CptSpauIding]

A conversation that needed to be had, but Oliver chose a really peculiar time and place. Everyone involved visibly didn't want to delve into this stuff, starting with the audience who just came to watch a movie.

[@julierogers1155]

I bet it WAS MORE UNCOMFORTABLE for Katharine Ross at the time Dustin Hoffman was pinching her buttocks (WITHOUT CONSENT). Dustin just made up his mind that pinching another human being on the ass was called for in that professional setting. DUSTIN IS A F-ing CREEP.

[@blueberrysoup1877]

Dustin comes across as insincere and insecure (aka lying). "best" part -when he says he did the offensive act while declaring she apologized. He was deliberately vague so the apology (for whatever aspect she gave it for) was to be construed as a "retraction" (by her) rendering him "innocent"(ie:"she was (admitting she was) wrong" apology). Very manipulative and deceptive on his part.

[@stephenwomack2698]

Dustin Hoffman made the mistake of thinking that he was being genuinely engaged in conversation without a predetermined outcome.

[@julierogers1155]

Dustin's mistake IS STILL that of infringing on other people's bodies. Dustin's continuing mistake is that he has NOT learned the lesson, therefore his LAME explanation.

[@stephenwomack2698]

@@julierogers1155 He's guilty cuz he was accused, eh?

[@julierogers1155]

@@stephenwomack2698 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHvGdWmrqaiqr5I

[@julierogers1155]

@@stephenwomack2698 Do you understand that this was NOT A TRIAL? This is at most, a "court of public opinion". I have watched/listened to multiple interviews with both Hoffman and at least THREE of his accusers. Again, MULTIPLE sources. For my money, Dustin Hoffman is his own WORST enemy. It happens that I believe these women. Here is one such interview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHvGdWmrqaiqr5I

[@nickgarcia1292]

i dont get it.. my management team has to take a sexual harassment class online and it includes stuff just like this.. idk why so many other professions dont require this in some way. and btw its mostly super obvious things to not do..

[@Royksopppp]

it is so easy to judge it is so easy to judge others it is so easy to judge others while they are still here; the best line of defence is to say Yes I did that 40 years ago. John Oliver for a pope!

[@remylov661]

Even if what he did wasn't illegal and even if he only did it once, ethically, it is still unjustifiable. Saying that it was the times and that it was family on the set is such a cop out. Obviously, saying that "this was the times" only applies to the men because those times were HORRIBLE for women. But don't go making excuses for yourself. Just own up to it and move on. I just hope this is the ONLY person we hear about who is accusing Dustin Hoffman of inappropriate sexual advances and/or conduct.

[@mchawk315]

Oh man Dustin Hoffman is butt hurt. 🤣

[@tawandamckinney1646]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jimmary816]

Never pictured Dustin Hoffman as a horn dog.

[@Abr022575]

Rumors and stories say he was insatiable. I didn't expect it, either

[@lohphat]

If you read her own words, she confronted him about it because she was uncomfortable, he apologized at the time and stopped the behavior -- with no detrimental affect to her employment. Again, she documents all of these details. She also admitted that even though she thought of him as a letch at the time, she still liked him. This was a grasp for attention over a matter that was settled 30 years ago by two adults when it happened.

[@BiffChunksteak]

Either it's the montage or Hoffman is all over the place. You'd think his agent would have prepared a statement for him on the subject and make him memorise it.

[@sueschern3404]

I love both of them but I truly think that Dustin is very very sincere and that some of it is way out of hand..

[@julierogers1155]

Fly at it Sue, go spend some time with Dustin, be prepared ... you may get more than you bargained for .....

[@kennethbrynleyjohnsweet4252]

Is Hoffman now toxic to Hollywood?

[@kennethgarcia25]

Kenneth Garcia This whole subject of sexual harassment and how accusations of such should be handled is very disturbing. Men and woman relationships are complicated! Each looks for something from the other and depend on signaling which is sometimes difficult to decipher. No one argues about the clear black-and-white incidents, but there are grey zones in which more subtler issues of interpretation both on what was suggested by someone and what an action's intentions were come into play. Many individuals would like to have the judgment of these events not be seen as nebulous because they may have an agenda or be concerned that people are getting away with things they should not. Certainly their are predators, but one can understand this in their character in terms of how they have chosen to live generally and how they act within certain circumstances. The broader context of an individual's history of conduct needs to be considered for someone who has done considerable good and acted morally. All these individuals are not Bill Cosby putting tranquillizers in woman's drinks before having sex with them. All these people are not heterosexually-awkward, affluent politicians preying on minors. There are degrees of impropriety that need to be considered in all these accusations rather than lump the accused all in one basket! Take further that, over a period of 30-40 years, views of what constitutes acceptable social conduct among adults subtly shifts. I am also concerned with John Oliver's logic! While I have enjoyed his show from it's onset and feel it plays a vital role in educating the public about very critically important topics, his holier-than-thou attitude and his insistence that Dustin Hoffman's accuser has no reason not to be telling the truth is simply absurd! Firstly, people say things all the time to gain attention for secondary gain. Secondly, people often misinterpret the intentions of others. Thirdly, neuroscience has proven that memory of distant events often becomes reinterpreted over time. Again, it is critical that people always do their best to respect the healthy and necessary autonomy and interests of others, whether it be based on sex, race, age, wealth and the lack thereof or whatever attribute might influence behavior. But this lynch mob mentality has to stop! People should be respectful of others. While no disrespect is acceptable, undesirable events need to be addressed with an attempt to recognize their context and severity. There should be some consideration regarding the meaning and interpretation of all such interactions, particularly within the context of the participant's lives. And when a balanced impartial process has been applied, some mandatory therapy and signs of contrition should be expected. There should be as impartial and informed a forum to adjudicate such matters. For such a process to go directly from accusation to guilty-as-charged to condemnation is simply wrong!

[@simonaschmidt]

The thing is artists often aren't good people.

[@athletesfeet1]

Hahaha, he just said that he never knew her or if he seen her it was in concert with many others, THEN he WAS sitting on a bed with her during a take and trying to do a script. TERRIBLE LIAR, but people will still believe him b/c they like him.

[@syxsyx9780]

let it go.....let him go...let him go do this to other women....shame on you john....what would you expect from an audience of folks that work in the t&a business.

[@ourblueheavendesign]

Who knows but him and her. His reputation as a person of integrity preceded the allegations! I believe him. I would want more women come forward. The others accused all had the same MO each time and many accusers.

[@julierogers1155]

Five, FIVE, have come forward. THREE of them appeared, together, on the Today show to talk about their respective experiences with Dustin Hoffman. Watch it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHvGdWmrqaiqr5I

[@MarcoPopman]

Is that Robert Deniro next to John?

[@BobTheBob647]

It’s called acting. He was playing Joe Schmoe when he was really academy award winner, Robert De Niro.

[@julierogers1155]

Yes.

[@Louis-ew8mx]

2 and a half years later and he’s back, is that all it takes for people to forget nowadays?

[@julierogers1155]

This "people" remembers. Just like I remember that Michael Jackson is/WAS a pedophile and I do not consume any of Jackson's creative efforts either.