Why Lala Kent Takes Issue with ‘California Sober’ | WWHL

During the After Show, Lala Kent and Katie Maloney-Schwartz join Andy Cohen and Lala talks about her issue with the term “California sober.”
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[@AFreckledAngel]

Katie's legs look amazing

[@Charmeebaby1]

“I moved to LA when I was 15 and bought a guitar” sweetie you’re Dr.Phil’s son. Likeeeeeee ummmmm sirrrr catch me outside!

[@j23lo5]

Omg this!

[@GUSANFRA]

I’m dead 🤣

[@sexandthequeencity4736]

He said it like he went through it lol

[@alanaponte2234]

@Mandz he clearly doesn’t care

[@ronoc627]

@Mandz you'd be a rich bartender tho..

[@Sister_LGP]

I’ve been California sober for over 11years best thing I ever did for myself. I fully respect what Lala is saying. I like the term “dry” I’ve never heard that before.. Everybody’s journey is their own.

[@mikemoffett6499]

It depends if you struggle with drug and alcohol addiction

[@stephaniesqq]

@@mikemoffett6499 Exactly!!! People seem to NOT understand that.

[@mikemoffett6499]

@@stephaniesqq I’m not against any recovery path. People do what’s right for them cause full sobriety isn’t always an option for some people but like I said it depends if you actually struggle with addiction

[@jefflawrence5835]

@@mikemoffett6499 you can struggle with both and still use the harm reduction model, it’s simply a process of giving up vices over a longer period. It might not work for everyone but it works for lots of people.

[@gailcarey3597]

I LOVE what LaLa had to say and can only pray my son finds the same commitment in his sobriety.

[@brandon.lewis.]

Jordan went to SMU with me. Super unlikable dude. It's weird he downplays the fact he's Dr. Phil's son now because that's all he talked about in college (zero people cared).

[@missyhays444]

Was he just super douchey? I need the tea! I didn't even know he was Dr. Phil's son til I got to the comment section. I didn't watch this whole episode. How cringe that he talked about it in college. Ew

[@csea4672]

Dang college is kinda old to be using your dad for clout 😆

[@sassagrass7095]

@@csea4672 😂😂 Seriously! And the way he made it seem like he just up and moved to LA with absolutely nothing and knew not a soul....give me a fucking break 😒

[@nomanejane5766]

Dr.phil wasn't a meme God back then

[@aliciabryanna6725]

It’s funny bc I had no idea who he is, but the douchey vibes radiate off them.

[@nicolekosmidis5980]

Funny as a recovering addict I find the California sober route worked for me.. I haven't drank alcohol or touched drugs since 2009. I do smoke marijuana frequently but have had no urge to touch anything else.

[@csea4672]

But you're not sober... congrats on not picking up anything else tho!! 👏

[@Hiphopopotomous]

@@csea4672 he never said he was. He said California sober. You're just putting someone else down.

[@catminister1075]

Nicole hate to break it to you sweety but you ain't sober. Marijuana is a drug you are delusional and in denial. Seek help and get honest.

[@Veromoi4]

Hey, congratulations on your sobriety! I have over two years sober from alcohol. Marijuana gives me existential crisis. That’s why I don’t use it but I don’t have a problem with other people using it if it helps them.

[@ninadekoning_]

Smoking marijuana frequently just means that you’ve swapped addictions.

[@slimt22]

I don't know much about addiction and how people typically deal with it. But I have always thought that the road to recovery is a journey. James may not be entirely sober, but I believe that he is trying. Lala may be at a better spot in her journey, but I don't understand why she takes offense with James being “California sober.” Give him advice if you want, but do not look down at him for not being where you are on the journey.

[@jovenusdivine503]

She is judging

[@12345MsStacy]

She looks down on everyone. That’s her poor character. Anyone who has had that journey would be sympathetic to others. She’s an incredibly immature person which is why she sucks a baby bottle 🍼

[@ramonagaerin258]

Smoking pot is not sober. I am with LAla on this one. Just say you stopped drinking.

[@atouchofyaz4876]

@@ramonagaerin258 they can call it what THEY want. It’s THEIR journey. When you become an alcoholic and go through the steps and travel down your road of recovery you can call it whatever you’d like.

[@ramonagaerin258]

@@atouchofyaz4876 100%..but its not sober.

[@sogiki]

Why is Katie whispering all her answers and looking around. Just talk.

[@lizdahl847]

Katie does that all the time. So annoying.

[@shadaniels4126]

Katie is a really genuine person who deserves to have her dreams all come true...💜

[@IaneHowe]

Its not replacing the addiction is not been able to remain of a sober mind and deal with emotions in a healthy way. Its no different than a drug addict getting drunk all the time because they don’t consider alcohol a drug.

[@MsLiberty101]

Oh gee, that was so nice of Jen Shaw to send ur kid fur boots ON SCAMMER MONEY FROM THE ELDERLY!!!! NOT!!!

[@goodmusic8563]

Speak for yourself LaLa what works for you may not work for some and vise versa! Live and let live! America!

[@RR-ir4ut]

LALA WAS SCARED OF CHARLIE. I LOVE IT

[@missyhays444]

I wanted to love it, but I hate Charli so much!!! LOL

[@jescerie7382]

Harm reduction is a valid approach to recovery. We don't need the chorus of judgment, everyone's journey is different.

[@monkeyman1327]

It is. It also isn't sober.

[@jescerie7382]

@@monkeyman1327 ok, sure. But he's clearly clarifying that. I don't love the term but it includes a big caveat that one is not fully sober. Again, I don't think it's useful to cast aspersions here. And I don't see how it belittles the experience of someone who is sober.

[@midsummersnight3848]

Agreed.

[@Iconickhalif]

Okay lala from Utah I agree with you on this one

[@Samantharuddell]

Love Lala she has grown so much!!

[@Burlgurl61]

LaLa wouldn’t be with Ran unless he has $. Ran wouldn’t have LaLa without $. Ran is like Jax, sweaty,slovenly unkempt. Katie needs a stylist. LaLa doesn’t have a sweet bone in her body

[@Burlgurl61]

@pojo 10 that’s for sure.

[@colleenroyle588]

Katie looks simple and cute…LAla looks trashy trying to look rich..new money no class

[@babybluecheeks]

Lala getting on her high horse regarding sobriety, so what if he smokes weed? Weed is also used as medication alcohol isn't. No one is disrespecting anyone else's sobriety if they choose to use weed.

[@richeymayne]

Alcohol is actually used for a number of medicinal purposes, particularly in its pure state. What she's getting at is people using the term sober to describe themselves when they are not at all sober. Doesn't matter how you cut it, smoking weed does not make you sober.

[@kaylabayla975]

She’s not on a high horse. She’s talking facts. If you smoke weed you’re not sober. Simple.

[@shaneswope2533]

Being sober is not taking anything that alters your mind…. Even if is prescribed to you

[@babybluecheeks]

That's your take, people are prescribed week for a lot of mental health issues and also to manage pain. If your an alcholic and are prescribed weed for health issues then to me you're sober.

[@bickiesitayelo4507]

@@richeymayne of l/

[@krissy461]

I think if you say you’re California Sober it’s you not being fully accountable and taking the easy way out in terms of telling you’re self it’s ok when you really know you aren’t sober.

[@wanefelicia8779]

If someone takes allergy med are they not sober?? 😂😂🤔 not all substances cause the same issue so dont lump cannabis in w alcohol only the ignorant would

[@poodlesinwonderland]

@@wanefelicia8779 allergy medication does not change your state of mind.... it just prevents an allergic reaction lol. marijuana and alcohol are not even in the same category as allergy meds

[@krissy461]

@@wanefelicia8779 that doesn’t even make sense. Allergy medicine is classified as an antihistamine and marijuana is considered a psychoactive drug. Allergy medicine doesn’t alter your state of mind and marijuana does. Allergy medicine according to the Mayo Clinic isn’t addictive, yet marijuana is. Allergy medicine doesn’t cause developmental delays, yet marijuana has a high potential is to cause developmental delays. Allergy medicine is LEGAL is all USA states, marijuana isn’t. Allergy Medicine doesn’t impair your body, doesn’t alter your sense of time or surroundings, doesn’t cause hallucinations, MARIJUANA DOES. Alcohol and marijuana are in a controlled substance category, allergy medicine. So before you come at me with stupidity, get your facts straight and stop embarrassing yourself, because I have second hand embarrassment for you 😬

[@---CASEY--K---]

@@krissy461 I agree with you Krissy. Some people are so ignorant. You aren't sober if your taking a drug that is illegal to drive a car 🤦‍♀️

[@reglagirl5802]

That's what steppers are "programmed" to think and say. They are not about accountability in my experience and I think they're confused about its meaning.

[@mvrickles1568]

This is the first time I’ve heard Lala talk with sense ‼️

[@kitty-vk8ic]

Lol me too

[@singitagainsam766]

Katie has lost so much weight, but kept her curves. Way to go, Girl!

[@Blessed-2-b-a-Hembree]

And those legs! Her figure is amazing too. I love the curves.

[@shawnee1881]

@@Blessed-2-b-a-Hembree amazing legs

[@rachellepoirier3695]

I love seeing a " normal" size woman on here. What I love even more, Katie finally seems to be comfortable in her own body. She's rocking her look, and she looks stunning. She has struggled with body image, and had struggled with an eating disorder for so long, it's great to see her confident and healthy. ❤

[@pla5730]

Too bad she's still miserable

[@Blessed-2-b-a-Hembree]

@@rachellepoirier3695 Absolutely. She’s always been a stunning woman.

[@habituallinestepper8839]

Why does she think she can judge anyone?

[@g1lovea.435]

You can definitely tell these 2 want to be actual HOUSEWIVES of either Utah or Beverly Hills show!! I could see Lala being good for that!!

[@christinamarie7765]

Maybe LaLa on Utah yet neither one of them would be good for Beverly Hills...

[@claudiagarcia939]

Lala enjoy the view at the top now while Randall is interested. You lose him how you got him. IJS

[@aimeel7143]

Jealous much. So hateful.

[@claudiagarcia939]

@@aimeel7143 didn’t Lala sleep with Randall while he was still married with kids…

[@lauralochridge2498]

That’s some serious foreshadowing. Came out today that she left him because he cheated.

[@MultiSassydee]

Imagine leaving your significant other because he cheated on you when you’re the one he cheated with. 😂😂

[@armygirl85fuckhitler74]

If he cheats WITH you, he will cheat ON you!

[@webbotubes]

I wish they put Lala on a housewives- she is good tv

[@micheledickinson3151]

At least James is authentic

[@aimeel7143]

Authentic. Authentic bully.

[@thatmetalchiick]

RIP Randall and Lala.

[@alissabartozzi8013]

Omg. My love for LaLa just SKYROCKETED when she said "Don't mess with SLIPKNOT" YESSS!

[@darcycookson8210]

Lala got the best nights sleep? Doesn’t she have a night nurse?

[@sarahrupert5320]

Ha! Very true 😂

[@LILAC2CARB]

Oh yeh…. She’s useless

[@jeannieelledge1105]

Lisa knows that James is damaged and her motherly instinct kicks in

[@j23lo5]

Katie needs a stylist

[@ramonagaerin258]

She looks like a frumpy soccer mom next to Lala. For sure.

[@crystalsinghmarketing9827]

Lala's Burberry onesie is also very tacky 🤷‍♀️

[@ramonagaerin258]

@@crystalsinghmarketing9827 was not her best look. I think it was pants and shirt.

[@Ummmmmkay88]

K..

[@Akhona3]

And a gym membership

[@vinylmonster4907]

I take issue with "california sober" to. As a recovering alcoholic and drug addict myself since 11/27/82 i find the term offensive. Its insulting to all the genuinely sober people, who struggle and work to maintain their sobriety as it is defined....also James Kennedy needs to stop claiming to be sober and clean and then look up the definition being constantly drug affected by weed is not sober.....he's a rageaholic suffering from untreated alcoholism, he doesnt have or use a sponsor and has constantly stated he doesnt attend meetings, hasnt taken the steps and has ZERO spirituality to speak of......its an insult to all the people who ARE SOBER doing what they need to to remain so.....

[@LP-ss3fg]

Cokehead Andy needs to chill with the “insight” about addiction. Addiction looks different to everyone and recovery does too.

[@sodaniel1]

Glad these 2 are getting along 💗💗

[@webbotubes]

Its really each to their own. Respect all people for their own journey's!! If it works it works 💪

[@jkwhite1692]

I can't not stand to look or listen to Lala..She wants the Spotlite so bad.

[@ramonagaerin258]

What? No hello to Morgan Stewart who was sitting in the audience. Andy. Come on...

[@ramonagaerin258]

@Don K what does Andy have to do with that?

[@ramonagaerin258]

@Don K that has zero to do with my comment. Andy typically says hello to celebrities in the audience.

[@roseanngable1894]

He was married when she was seeing him. Stop sugar coating Lala. That’s why she was trying to hide it from everybody. Stop being jealous of scheanna

[@Jillyyy17]

I’m sober from alcohol because I had a bad drinking problem. My drinking problem stemmed from me drinking to forget my problems. Smoking weed on the other hand was never something I had an issue quitting or felt a constant need for. It helps me chill out after a rough shift or unwind on a Friday night. I totally get what she’s saying but the substances have two very different effects and some people struggle with one and not the other. I love Lala for being so open about her sobriety🩷

[@BURSTOFCULTURE]

Damn Andy missed them. He was about to cry. 😆 Or maybe New York Is getting back to normal for him Is.

[@jesswithdakids5172]

Andy said WE ALL DO🤣🤣🤣

[@realityrecut1042]

Bravo! All these shows have gone meta. So to turn the show on it’s head. Maybe cast like a producer as a character doing commentary on the women. It already like a show with in a show. So just roll with it

[@cazzzzzzza]

My mum is ‘California Sober’ after nearly dying with alcohol and Id rather my mum smoked pot than drank herself to death…..

[@jefflawrence5835]

❤️❤️ that’s a story I hear often and I’m happy your mom is no longer in that place

[@gloriahufnagel5556]

YEA.. CAUSE LALA IS THE AUTHORITY ON BEING SOBER... GFTOH..

[@kyleechatham9446]

I mean she has been sober for three years, I think that’s an accomplishment

[@gloriahufnagel5556]

@@kyleechatham9446 YOU DO NOT JUDGE ANOTHER PERSONS SOBRIETY.. PERIODTTTT.. As a person who had a major drug problem for 20 years, how DARE anyone come for me, for smoking weed.. it’s not her place to say a word about another persons journey . I’ve been off heavy drugs for over 10 years, so i speak from a place of knowledge. I know folks who relapse after 10-15..

[@BW-qu6py]

Only here to see Morgan Stewart in the audience

[@violabeth]

Who cares what LaLa thinks. She is not half as smart as she thinks she is.

[@judykirkham852]

I completely agree. She acts like she is smart and boss but, nope.

[@lex2951]

I mean she’s not wrong. Smoking weed is not being sober, but if that’s what is helping him then who cares what he calls it.

[@reglagirl5802]

The term should be "Cannibas Savvy " and not California Sober

[@Ashleysissy]

Jordan McGraw Dr.Phil’s son looooove this 💕🥰 I understood this assignment lol

[@countrygirlxo7188]

Drinking is extremely bad for you. Smoking weed has no serve side effects.

[@wisewillow5731]

Katie! Those LEGS!!! Va Va Voooooommmmm!

[@penelopepeterson4985]

I think lala is gorg, and doesn’t need no one , she’s good on her own and her baby. I’m sure the baby daddy will have to pay enough child support for both of them and don’t know if she’ll get any alimony since they weren’t yet married but don’t think she’ll need it and be ok with just the child support for the next 18-21 years. It’s better she found out now then later who she’s been with all this time, but it happens to all of us atleast once in our lives, she’s tough and smart she.l be fine.

[@twelve11]

OMG!!! MORGAN!!!!

[@danivlogs3100]

Katie is so awkward

[@damien1781]

La la you aren't on any Kardashian level lol 😂😂😂 as beautiful as you may be and as rich as your man is you could never.

[@Lorinski]

Why do you put celebrities on a pedestal? You really think they’re better than anyone else?

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

That's literally what she was saying. She was saying they're not in the Kardashian crowd so MGK didn't want to be associated with them. What are YOU talking about?

[@micheledickinson3151]

Of course the beauty is plastic, in the sense of plastic surgery. She plays a role, all the time, a true actress

[@Iconickhalif]

Her point flew over your head sir

[@j23lo5]

This comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sandranynj7118]

Lala speaks well the honestly and she looks great!

[@jeannieelledge1105]

I love Lala

[@dollymadeson2151]

Definitely Katie's character is Soo nasty. Lala is Completely jealous of Scheanas hot fiancee/baby daddy.

[@fredelinesilien]

Katie your opinion about James is biased since you despise him.

[@aimeel7143]

So then you are giving him a pass on how he spoke to Lisa vanderpumps son??? You feel it’s okay to speak to others this way. Wow.

[@rachellepoirier3695]

While her opinion may be biased, she stated facts.

[@amberflynn4937]

Katie is looking so pretty

[@lizdahl847]

Be serious. She needs a makeover

[@sassagrass7095]

Why does Lala act like weed is fucking heroin? Lmao

[@vonbee22]

Katie is so bland

[@rachelc586]

Beyond Idk why she's still around

[@KK-gn8nm]

@Don K HAHAHA

[@kimberleyike2168]

I agree with Lala. Sober means sober. It doesn't mean smoking weeds and drinking wine.

[@reneepierce610]

It kills me that people are grossed out by tasting human milk, but they’re ok with drinking the milk of a barnyard animal! 😳 Cow milk is meant for baby cows, and even they stop drinking it when they grow teeth! People drink cows milk because they’re programmed at birth. So nobody really thinks about how disgusting and backwards that is! All mammals produce milk. But if I offered you an ice cold glass of Rat milk, Cat milk or Kangaroo milk to dip your cookies in to, you’d refuse..( as you should!) Well same should go for Cow milk! IF we needed to drink any animals milk it should be human! Also if you think you need cow milk for the calcium...wrong again! Did you know there’s more calcium in a cup of spinach than there is in an entire container of cow milk? Many other veggies provide it as well, and there’s Calcium supplements too! Did you know why Chocolate milk was created? Because they unmercifully shoot them up with hormones so the body thinks it’s pregnant and provides more milk as they attach them to milking machines for hours. This caused their nipples to bleed, making the blood tainted milk turn pink. So some money hungry “genius” decided to add chocolate to it rather than throwing it out and losing money! Same for strawberry milk! It’s only to disguise the blood! So that’s the truth about what you’re pouring over your Cheerios! Stop drinking all of that slimy mucus you call milk! Unless it’s human! 🤔💥🥴🤦‍♀️🤢

[@uniqueaesthetics1403]

Huh?! I hate milk btw. But tht was random Renee

[@carriekmms]

I appreciate Lala choosing to abstain from the real fur

[@alexmorgan6641]

Me too but it was better left unsaid when it was a gift. Just say she sent ocean a gift and thank you regardless if you use it or not.

[@veronicajean3612]

Virtue signaling is so overdone

[@deefitzgerald2906]

KATIE OMG looks so good…….You do NOT need to lose anymore weight just be happy……….

[@dianaguenzler2897]

Surprising Lala is actually sounding like an adult but, who cares what she thinks? She has no room to judge anyone else on this show. Her life has been a screwed up mess the entire time she's been on Vanderpump.

[@anitapablos6695]

I will never fall for a gold fight

[@faridajohnson9740]

Like la la outfit💃🏾

[@nickjacobs8507]

Lala looks great & so does Katie! Was a nice interview & thank you Lala for speaking up. Facts!

[@shawnee1881]

Katie has nice legs and the shoes are beautiful.

[@serenahardy4457]

I respect Lala's opinion, she seems to get it. Smoking weed in replacement of alcohol or other drugs seems mild but it's basically the same thing, even church can become wicked to the addict

[@vonbee22]

Huh?

[@realityqueen3173]

@@vonbee22 its called reading comprehension sweetheart. you should try it

[@marianna12377]

Yea, as an recovering addict weed is my saving grace. Because the mental issues that come along and I don't believe in medication because you turn into a zombie

[@wanefelicia8779]

No it isnt the same thing at all and someone educated on cannabis and alcohol would know that. Cannabis has never caused any deaths and isnt addictive 👀 educate yourself because u sound dumb af

[@jefflawrence5835]

Incorrect

[@tomiolley8807]

Lala needs to make the move to SLC HOUSEWIVES

[@atouchofyaz4876]

this was kinda boring and a tad awkward to watch

[@zekeyaneal]

Bring Morgan Stewart and Justin Sylvester to WWHL. That would be entertaining.

[@becorations1]

Sober is what works for you. I know many people that cannot handle alcohol because they are belligerent and evil but they use pot for anxiety and to help them sleep. Sometimes different substances affect people differently. I don’t think it’s anyone’s place to judge how somebody deals with their sobriety. My husband and I were actually talking the other day and, though I’m not an alcoholic, alcohol was much more of a gateway bad decisions for us than pot has ever been… but I also seldom smoke pot because I do use it medicinally.

[@Honeybees1005]

Good for LaLa!!!!

[@gailcarey3597]

It’s sad this show robbed these kids of a real chance to succeed on their own merits.

[@dollymadeson2151]

Which were....?

[@marygarcia456]

420,maintance!

[@beccalangner3257]

Lala look 🔥

[@janetstory594]

Lala marries money and now acts all high and mighty, like she knows everything, and everyone else is stupid! She needs to look in the mirror! As a therapist, switching one addiction for another is still an addiction. (Pot for alcohol) The NEED for an addiction, if not addressed, leads to other addictions. Addictions are typically a by product osf low self extreme, or often times filing an emotional void. Good job to all those still in the wagon, keep up the good work!

[@KA-eu9sy]

The part about addiction....well said.

[@micheledickinson3151]

Substitution is acceptable. Some do exercise, social engagements,

[@bafbaas1210]

Ok you can think cali sober isnt effective but its not disrespectfül to say u are. Thats like saying its almost a competition or like an exclusive club.

[@kmm2442]

Like Apple, but is Ocean a step too far.

[@hollyfrank8945]

Look at Lala a tall poppy a top her Spirtual hilltop looking down at demo levato. Ahh but Lala is not perfect she never claim to be she claimed progress but spoke of perfection.

[@Go1239w]

Does Andy have real New Yorkers as guests ?

[@TanukiOfficial]

I wish Lala felt this passionate about adultery.

[@NN-re7cy]

🤭

[@TanukiOfficial]

I wish Katie hired a stylist. She always looks matronly from the waist up. Her legs look great though.

[@pleasesendyourmind]

It’s like saying your a vegetarian but you eat fish….

[@tanielle133]

This was so very boring and lack luster 🥴

[@estelaangulo324]

What the equivalent of “white privileged “ is. Can say or do what you want and get a show typical Utah girls 🤷🏻‍♀️ and I’m from utah

[@josieeaat9772]

You negated an already idiotic comment.

[@chillguy6870]

This was boring

[@jovenusdivine503]

"in the program" hardly... Cuz of tooooo many comments of EGO

[@kellyhenderson9972]

I’ve always been a fan of both ladies. It’s like if you have a strong opinion as a woman you’re a b* but if you’re a guy with one you’re assertive. Both are very smart women.

[@JeanineBruen]

Gotta say, Lala is 100% correct on the “California sober” topic. Addiction is not like a bad habit you can try to cut down on; it is a serious physical illness. If you’re someone who has almost died from an overdose, you simply cannot pick up a substance again. It takes a lot of time, work and a lot of help. I hope Demi gets well!

[@sweets3745]

Where's wifey. Love her 💗

[@funandfacewithshanlittle5979]

La la so pretty

[@christinamarie7765]

Love the backhanded "Thank you" for the baby gift...all the extra commentary was unnecesary...

[@zhemann585]

Of course they would rather be with Kourt and Travis...duh!!!

[@ButtandGut]

Who are these people? Lol

[@jovenusdivine503]

La-la land.... Judgemental of James do sho!!! Take ur own inventory........ Like trying to "act as if" all educated now orrrr above, as usual. You will grow up one day!!!