Man fed up with mail carriers driving on sidewalk, lawns in years-long dispute

[@bindig1]

I worked as a carrier for 37 years. We're not allowed to drive on sidewalks. Period

[@PunguinYoga]

I would think that has to be the policy.

[@yankeedoodle7693]

Apparently this is not the case

[@JayCeazy86_Gaming]

Shouldn't be allowed to drive all through one's yard when they deliver packages but they do. Not sure if I own my property or they do at this point...

[@jonesfactor9]

Is it likely this route was once delivered by a mail carrier on foot and they switched to a vehicle?

[@tyeedwrds]

As a 44 year employee, if the box is back over the edge of the side walk, you can drive on their to deliver it. (regardless of what the manual says) Or the homeowner can apply to move it further out. You're not required to jump any stop on a mounted route, as you know, they don't want ANY accidents. Could the carrier be more understanding, YES! But, remember, we're only hearing his side of the story. Him being a jerk about land that isn't his, could have ticked off the regular carrier. All the land to the left of the sidewalk is municipal property, it's an easement. The carrier that drove onto the sidewalk, to serve his neighbor, should be ordered to the edge of the street. The carrier should have cut the stop and requested management to direct the customer to move the box. I had one postmaster who would help, he'd have maintenance go out and do it for the customer if they needed the help. They don't seem to care as much today?

[@garykorzelius5930]

As a retired Letter carrier, I would like to say that if my supervisor heard about this I would be facing a suspension. Maybe calling the Postal Inspectors would get better results, as they are the postal police.

[@gilbertbarrera9240]

Well put mailbox on the road and have flashers on

[@christienelson1437]

Many states you can not drive on the grass due to plumbing pipes potentially being damaged.💕🙏💕🙏

[@carlcarlson5553]

​@christienelson1437 unless it's your own property. Not a single state bans that

[@JustAGrl007]

Glad to know that this is not normal. You're the second mail carrier who said this.

[@dinky101]

@@carlcarlson5553inside of city limits it’s illegal to park on the sidewalk or your yard or to drive on them. And to block the sidewalk is illegal too. Outside of city limits you can park on your property.

[@Golden_writes550]

They have a vendetta against him because he spoke to them about the damage...

[@turbo-brian]

Yup. They are just punishing him now. It's funny when you speak out about wrongdoing that you become the villain.

[@FirstLastOne]

This is why unions SUCK! Fix the bad apple before it spoils the bunch. Now all the apples have worms!

[@KandiKlover]

They’re just lazy.

[@--harry_]

We had an issue, the road does a "tee" and dead ends on both sides of the tee. I live on the right side t. The post office made me move my mailbox to the top of the t so the snow plows kept destroying my box. They would not replace my box unless I moved it. I moved it on to my side of the tee. They put letters in my box saying they wouldn't deliver to me until I moved it back. I called the post master and she said the mail carrier is not allowed to back up but she does it on the left side of the tee when she delivers to those houses. They would not speak to that. The trash guys turn in my side pick up my trash and back down to the other side. We are talking feet not miles. I gave up and just buy the cheapest mailbox now everytime it gets crushed. I can't wait for the government to control healthcare!

[@half-breed]

@@FirstLastOne yeah they suck until you retire without a monthly pension and then you find out unions aren't so bad after all 😁

[@SegnahcX99]

The mail person is lazy.

[@firewater365]

All of them? In 5 years he has likely had different ones so this is just USPS Entitlement crap

[@madmanuel001]

The mail person has 500 houses to get through. If they have to get out every time, It'll be 300 houses. You want to wait the extra day or two for your mail?

[@rncine]

@@madmanuel001 So what did they do years ago without mail trucks, they walked to each house! I just came from my post office after numerous complaints about our lazy carrier. She continuously leaves over sized pkgs. in our mailbox instead of getting out of her truck and putting them on our porch. Now I’m not in Detroit( anymore) but in Florida, it’s been raining everyday here and pkgs get wet because she doesn’t close the mail box door! If mail carriers are too lazy to get out of truck then they have no business being a carrier for the U.S. government which our taxes pay for.

[@Starswake]

The women letter carriers are the lazy ones here.

[@cjking4511]

@@firewater365Not necessarily. My parents have had the same mail person over 10 years

[@grmmjhnsn2]

Never heard of the USPS driving on sidewalks for "safety" 👀

[@SpaceRanger187]

The driver identifies as not driving on the side walk you racist

[@starshine3588]

Most of the mailboxes there are up past the sidewalks…and they are allowed to drive up to the mailbox to deliver the mail. Also that land between the street and sidewalk isn’t that guy’s property….it’s the easement and belongs to the city….the sidewalk also is city property and not this guy’s property.

[@UltraReefReseller]

Just like all the other agencies, they just make this shit up as they go. 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

[@NextNate03]

​@SpaceRanger187 Looks who's talking.

[@SyzygyNoon]

@@starshine3588Sure, but when they start driving on his property and ruining it, then there’s a major problem.

[@cynthiaoconnor7185]

If an ordinary person did this, we would be arrested.

[@Michael-pi8ps]

Well yeah. There are perks to being a federal worker.

[@gotchagee3315]

Arrested? Seriously? LMAO. Laws are so lax nowadays. Even seasoned criminals get off easy. You honestly believe you would be arrested just for this? What else did you do? Did you duct tape an assault rifle to the hood of your car with a flashing billboard saying weapon is here with an arrow pointing? LOL

[@ericclone]

Not really. As long as you have the right skin and live in California.

[@mbords01]

This is simply not right; but this an anomaly, USPS employees are generally super nice, and professional. If I was this citizen, I would not wait even three times before I speak to the Post Master or Police Chief or Mayor or big head honcho, until it gets resolved. Citizens we are somebody!

[@briansaben5697]

@@ericclone White people have it soooooo rough. 😂

[@ericligotke3542]

I’m a carrier for 19 years If I have to deliver mail and the street is narrow, I’ll go to the right as far as I can with the hazard lights on and park, and walk the extra couple feet to the mailbox. Cars behind me can wait, or go around. The postal manual M41 forbids driving on sidewalks. This carrier should be given an investigative interview by his managers. That’s their job

[@ryancraythorn8399]

Its the managers that gave the all good on them doing it. They probably encourage it even. The issue is the road is too narrow and they don't want to block traffic to deliver mail, so the mail service encourages drivers to drive on the sidewalk to avoid blocking traffic instead of fixing the issue. This probably even goes up to the town level government.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

If all the mailboxes are like that then doing so would add a lot of extra time to his route.

[@c0rnichon]

@@MrPAULONEAL Then that will be one of the routes that cannot be done quickly and the postal office has to plan schedules accordingly. I think they're just being petty at this point.

[@paulajohnston2990]

​@@MrPAULONEAL And... ???

[@paulajohnston2990]

Thank you for the M41 information!!!

[@Channel-iu6de]

How is it not a federal crime to not deliver this mans mail?

[@getin3949]

Haven't you heard that the post office isn't a Federal entity? Yeah, I know, it's total bullshit.

[@DennisBurger-hc3ie]

It is, he hasn’t contacted the proper authorities yet

[@Siberius-]

I imagine it is being delivered, just to a post office instead.

[@soulsreaper7145]

@@DennisBurger-hc3ie you cant just move your mail box to a non prescibed area, and exspect the mail man to just get it done still. doods fighting them over somthing silly. its less then 2 inchs onto his lawn.

[@bennyhunt256]

​@soulsreaper7145 . This is my house an yes I moved my box an it stays there an I get mail now.

[@eugenewall6620]

A “safety issue”? Isn’t it a “safety issue” for pedestrians on the sidewalk?

[@pitman6992]

I recall a bumper sticker back in the day...."If u don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk!!!"🤣😂🤣

[@surething-hohum]

That makes too much sense dude! Do we see city, state and federal government alike are nothing but trouble.

[@billyhatcher643]

yep driving on the sidewalk is worse than it being on the streeet theyre just too damn lazy to do their job

[@lynettepalecek3141]

@eugenewall6620. Yes, it definitely is.

[@RyshusMojo1]

@@surething-hohum "Hi, we're here from the government and we're here to help...ourselves"

[@dannypowers4995]

Postmaster in that city should be fired asap.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

I wonder how many layers of insulation there are between the people who have been contacted and the postmaster? With this story, the postmaster might finally become aware of the issue.

[@ratsumatra3003]

Screw the local PM, go to the POOM...the regional Postmaster... I guarantee the Supervisor has read every single complaint and has surely given information to the postmaster. Five years has gone by???? Nah, time to go up the food chain.

[@LilComputerBrainsLilComputerBr]

Dude.. it's Waterford, this isn't Novi or Bloomfield 😂

[@dangeroustoman]

The police chief also for failure to do his job. You know if it was one of us we would get a ticket.

[@theconscience01]

The homeowner isn't following postal regulations - the mailbox is not placed properly.

[@portojohny7913]

I love that he proved they are just being dicks by moving his mailbox to the road where other mailboxes were and they still drove on his lawn and refused to deliver his mail

[@sandrajohnson2489]

It's against the law to withhold mail.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

@@sandrajohnson2489 its 2024 what bloody mail could he receive. Dont you get invoices and taxes online ?

[@mrgetrekt1012]

@@Chris-hw4mqit could be a new credit card, a renewed driver’s license, a college degree, a replacement social security card. All things that could really fuck with someone’s life if stolen

[@theantisocialsocialite-]

@@Chris-hw4mqmaybe he owns his own business. Maybe checks. Not his fault you’re a loser and ignorant and couldn’t possibly think of one good reason to have a mail box. Lol

[@hahawoshedman4017]

@@portojohny7913 He started it? Why would it be their fault?

[@SharpStudios0]

all you have to do is have a cop sit there and wait for it to happen then he can pull them over and get a ticket, but im sure the PD doesnt want to get into a pissing match with a federal government agency. The USPS clearly proved they have a vendetta against him, once he moved the mailbox they still refused to give him his mail. withholding someones mail is illegal. this needs to be investigated at the highest level and the postmaster general needs to be fired.

[@TapesTree]

Two important things to note. They are only a quasi government agency, and they aren’t withholding the mail, they just aren’t delivering it. The guy will have to go to the post office to pick it up…. The post office are definitely abusing their power, and the story pretty well makes my blood boil, but I wanted to mention those two bits of information.

[@michaelhollis764]

​@SeeYouEnTee666 i can see the black on your tongue.

[@Spencerlayne]

That would require police work 😅

[@HANDBANANA95]

keep talking out ur ass

[@kaylavarela7215]

FIVE YEARS?? That’s a deeply personal problem there now. He needs to take them to court at this point.

[@ShopEskimo]

Sounds honestly like a made up number...

[@beeenn649]

@@ShopEskimo Yea, I'm sure he has nothing better to do than make up stories and harass the post office over the obvious damage done to his property. lol😂😂😂

[@librab103]

He isn't going to win. Seeing that it is a federal entity and that Congress regulates them, only Congress can make the USPS pay a fine to the guy.

[@christopherthedude12765]

He won’t be able to due to probably being owned by the county/city via Right-of-way. Typically, sidewalks (unless in a private community) and some land behind the sidewalk is owned by the municipality. The only thing he could do is file a complaint to the State.

[@darrylf7538]

​@christopherthedude12765 He would sue for the damage to his personal property. That's his entire case. He really couldn't care less about the sidewalk or easement. They are driving on his personal property, and they've damaged or destroyed multiple pieces of his personal property.

[@marcotricks9297]

As a former City Carrier. Whenever we got notices to not drive or walk thru yards we were supposed to follow the residence request. However, some carriers are lazy and instead of follow the instructions they would just ignore delivering the mail and have the residence come to the post office to pick it up. Seems this carrier is being petty and turning this into a bigger deal than is should be in the first place

[@5GreenAcres]

No excuse. His/her boss or manager should have reprimanded him/her then.

[@samherb1]

I wouldn't think someone needs to notify anybody to not have someone drive a vehicle across their lawn....

[@EdWeibe]

well call it "Copping a Tude."

[@goofygranny1020]

Sounds like a lazy arrogant psycho!😢

[@Ena48145]

Why on earth would anyone need to be told to not drive on someone's lawn???? This is literally insane.

[@medusagorgon8432]

The fact that the post office and the police is perfectly fine with this is insane to me.

[@c0rnichon]

I think it's a resource thing for the police. Since the vehicle is not registered to a specific driver, the police office probably would need to get a warrant to make the post office tell them who's working the shifts in question.

[@douglaskerr6813]

The police don't ticket government vehicle it's a gentleman's agreement witch is stupid some of those mail carriers should be carriers Some can't read an address I've gotten mail for someone a Three blocks away from were I live

[@mikeellis5347]

​@@douglaskerr6813 it would be a waste of time. Postmaster calls his boss who calls the DA ,ticket gone.

[@mustaffa1611]

@@douglaskerr6813 'gentleman's agreement' thats a nice euphemism

[@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76]

When theyre members of the same crime and/or pedo ring...

[@hanaj]

FYI- if you call your US Representative’s office, your mail issues will magically get solved. They will get their attention very quickly

[@getin3949]

You mean your state Senator?

[@hanaj]

@@getin3949 nope. Your US Rep (congressman).

[@pdlister]

You can also file a report with the US Postal Inspectors.

[@hanaj]

@@pdlister but that takes forever to get resolved. Called my US Rep’s office, they took my details and 45 minutes later- I got a call from the post office. Before there phone would ring until they picked it up to hang it up, there was never anyone to talk to if you walked it, etc.

[@nayon9379]

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[@tomedgar4375]

The minute you complain, they find a reason not to deliver, it’s disgusting

[@ScottOSaurus]

deal with it

[@smudent2010]

​@@ScottOSaurusfound to commie

[@ScottOSaurus]

@@smudent2010 Try again this time with proper English.

[@LightningPoop]

This is the new america. Full of whiny bitchs.

[@46993-r]

​@@smudent2010It's just a low quality troll. Don't bother.

[@grafando]

Good on the reporter for going to the post office and trying to get this man justice.

[@fordhouse8b]

Good on her? She was cowardly. She first confronted the mail carrier, and then a person at the local post office, but in both instances she shamefully, and I am sure quite purposefully, neglected to get their faces on video.

[@michaela4427]

She is bringing situational awareness available to public and trying to get answers. Not everyone's goal is to shame as many people as possible.

[@chasethebase5986]

​@@fordhouse8bno she did the right thing to confront the driver

[@JackMehoffZaddy]

​@@fordhouse8bshe knew they would do what cchimmpz do

[@gaycramer2658]

@@michaela4427 If the reporter is trying to get answers for the public, she needs to be asked and she needs to ask others questions like these …Does she (reporter) know USPS rules and regulations?…Does that customer know USPS rules and regulations?…Did she ask the customer if he got approval from USPS to move his mailbox before he moved it?…Was the customer’s request to move his mailbox denied for any reason according to USPS rules and regulations and the customer moved his mailbox anyway? If she’s trying to get answers for the public she should have asked more questions and had the answers for them before doing a news report on this issue. The public needs to understand, there’s information that goes into how a route and delivery is setup. It’s not always a carrier’s fault, or the fault of USPS. I’m just telling you what I know. I’m not taking sides.

[@bowl0noodles]

I bet they don't drive all over the grass in the rich neighborhoods.

[@katiesioux7757]

They probably have safer roads

[@amandawilson2346]

The rich neighborhoods know the mailbox should go on the correct side of the sidewalk.

[@gtasandman]

@@amandawilson2346 did you not see the part where he moved it to the curb of the street.

[@gotchagee3315]

@@gtasandman Moving it closer to the street should have solved the issue. I believe someone is lying here.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

@@gotchagee3315 -- No, it's become a matter of "wills" -- who "will" give in and do what the other wants. The issue, to the post office, is that they don't think the street is safe enough to stop on. I have no way of judging that, but I've seen comments on this story by mail carriers who say that the solution is to set up a walking route. Doesn't look like that will be considered here.

[@boxcarracer10]

Worked here in Florida for USPS for a number of years and this was not allowed. That said, mailboxes are to be about 6 inches off the main road, not some 5 yards back on the other side of the walkway. Also, I would have informed the homeowner numerous times before informing him that he'll need to pick up the mail at the post office if nothing was done to avoid such incident.

[@Orxenhorf]

Their local PM messed up when switching from walking to driving and not requiring the boxes to be move back whenever that was.

[@ccash3290]

He moved the mailbox already

[@oneeyedman99]

@@Orxenhorf So far as I know, there haven't been any new walking routes in more than 50 years. The houses where the carrier walks are all older than that. That's not going to change, the postal service loses quite a bit of money for every house they serve by walking.

[@WaluTime]

​@@oneeyedman99How do they lose money by *not* paying for gas and just havin the carrier walk??

[@stephengarofalo863]

I’m a retired letter carrier with 38 years of service, this behavior from the carrier and management is unacceptable, if I was that homeowner I’d sue them relentlessly and their retaliation is to stop delivering his mail. Inexcusable.

[@gaycramer2658]

Do you know how this route was setup for the type of delivery and where the delivery is supposed to be made? Did the customer get approval to move his mailbox before he moved it? Was the customer’s request to move his mailbox denied and he moved it anyway? Just wondering.

[@Vercingetorix504]

​@@gaycramer2658Do you also wonder what leather boots taste like? 🥾👅

[@troyl200]

Well, it's acceptable now apparently.

[@stephengarofalo863]

@@troyl200 apparently the Postal Management are not in touch with Customer Service, we’re hanging on by a thread in the delivery business and hemorrhaging money left and right, they never get it.

[@timchamberlin9280]

@@gaycramer2658 Can the lazy ass mailman get out of his truck? These mail carriers act like their asses are glued to the seat.

[@buckeyethrifter8794]

Please keep us updated. Sidewalks aren't made to support vehicles, just people!

[@Pippi-Longstocking]

Exactly. I was just thinking the same thing. And he’s responsible for repairs of the sidewalk (which he’s clearly upset for).

[@AJtraductora]

And if they are driving over any underground utilities (like water lines!) and cause damage there, too, then they are also responsible for replacement.

[@jayandreas1131]

Looking at the state of the road it isn’t made to support the vehicles either. If only Americans learned to build walkable and bikable cities, so the USPS could use cargo bikes to do their rounds.

[@yargnad]

@@jayandreas1131 Exactly, we do _everything_ incorrectly here. Nothing is ever designed for _people,_ only cars. It's one of the main reasons, along with Trump, that I want out of this country.

[@Syo-tc7kl]

​@@jayandreas1131fuck your bike

[@sergiofernandez7318]

I'm mad for him. That's really crappy of those postal workers to deliberately drive on his yard and destroying his property just to deliver mail

[@hahawoshedman4017]

How? It's not like they caused any real damage to his yard?

[@sergiofernandez7318]

​@@hahawoshedman4017 watch at 1:19

[@hahawoshedman4017]

@@sergiofernandez7318 Okay and? Thats like 60 bucks, and over the course of 5 years.

[@IBMSystemsEngineer]

Thank you Sarah for such great coverage!

[@Alex1891]

Evidence of a vendetta against this man is the fact that they deliver to neighbors' street-side boxes, but not his own.

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

None of the other neighbors boxes are on the street, she lied

[@1maxearth]

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS you can see them on street view you scab. lol

[@babybirdhome]

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS No she didn't. I can see plenty of houses on his street that have mailboxes right on the roadside in the easement and on the road side of the sidewalk. Here are a few just to prove you wrong: 2451, 2455, 2460, 2476, 2465, 2490, 2521.... should I keep on going?

[@mkb7013]

Absolutely

[@Izaak-uc5ul]

The postal service has admitted to spying on citizens and targeting anyone that's a registered Republican and throwing away their ballots and other mail

[@WilliamBell-zu5ll]

It's not about safety, they are just lazy.

[@SicsemperevelloMortemtyr-by9hj]

It was malicious as well. He moved it, and they still drove on his lawn.

[@Beezlie727]

​@@SicsemperevelloMortemtyr-by9hjDid he move it to the curb location like his neighbors mailboxes were? It appears not!

[@SicsemperevelloMortemtyr-by9hj]

@@Beezlie727 actually, when it show the reporter, it clearly has his mailbox right by the street. The gentleman even stated he moved it to the curb...

[@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650]

Why did you ewven comment this who said it was about safety shut up please schitzofarmer bot.

[@Kinann]

And since they won't deliver his mail, it's now about 'retribution'. What fucks.

[@markenda1]

I live in a semi- rural area where all of the mailboxes are located right along the road. Drivers simply slow down and go around the mail vehicle. The postal service there says it is about safety, yet in the video, it shows the mail carrier driving up on the sidewalk right near an intersection and blocking the view of a white car. I guess they are perfectly fine with endangering other people.

[@zariarogers2846]

Yeah we have the same thing. 55mph roads, boxes on streets. You can dodge a mailtruck safely just as you can dodge an Amish buggy safely. No excuses.

[@artosbear]

That mailbox is not on the effing road you chode. The mailbox is not on the road the mailbox is not on the road. It is not on the road.

[@63utuber]

Not in a semi-rural area here - boxes are located by the curb all over the city

[@NamesZKP]

Yeah it's a safety hazard. People drive like they don't have brakes. Or just mad in general if they're behind a delivery driver. Amazon drivers have to worry about this as well.

[@valeriekehrt7566]

They're being a holes & retaliating. They need to stop that & solve the problem. That's way out of line & not safe. They're lazy & defiant.

[@samgarviso5288]

As a retired 27 year carrier this sounds personal!

[@xPWN74]

That puts the public in danger by him driving on the f-ing sidewalk

[@sudonymh]

TFA that you have to actually write that in this day and age. SMH

[@imisseveryone2716]

TY

[@edwardsmith5650]

The mail box is supposed to be on the curb along with everyone elses' in the neighborhood.

[@johnathonkelley5234]

Sidewalks themselves are a safety hazard period.

[@LaurenHayley16]

Right what if they hit a kid or something

[@lakesidejim73]

So delivering the mail at the side of the road is a safety hazard, but driving on the sidewalk and through peoples’ yards isn’t?

[@Doc5thMech]

It was not the sidewalk, it was the curb and easement next to it, to stop his vehicle while minimizing traffic obstruction.

[@David-hm9ic]

@@Doc5thMech The mail truck crossed the sidewalk and was driving on the customer's grass!

[@outtahere156]

​@@Doc5thMechxuh, we saw the video. Your gas lighting won't work.

[@Doc5thMech]

@@outtahere156 The presentation included several illustrative situations, one of which I described.

[@ting280]

@@Doc5thMech the other ones contradict you. that's probably why you cherrypicked the one

[@0h0hJ0i]

Spike strip your yard

[@kevinmach730]

I almost did just that this year when I graded part of the yard and someone drove on it.

[@TheMW2informer]

The terrace is not his property.

[@justmejenny7986]

I wouldn't recommend ruining federal property.

[@reh3884]

@@TheMW2informer It's not a fucking road either.

[@fullraph]

I would have, long ago.

[@debbiegradowski9885]

A mail carrier HAS to exit his/her vehicle to deliver mail into the box!! Thank you seriously for going to that reporter! She deserves an award! I honestly didn’t believe we had real NEWS anymore 😢 I hope that situation has been resolved 🎉🎉

[@49ers_red_and_gold2]

No delivery company is allowed to drive on people's property. I'm very surprised at this! SUE! 😤

[@bjvu9460]

Everyone likes to sue but they have immunity just like cops and suing them is not an easy task and you cant just go to court and file a complaint because it will get thrown out since they are a federal agency so maybe you should do a bit of research to understand how hard it is to sue the post office

[@PANZERFAUST90]

The USPS isn't a company.

[@joshh535]

Lol you clearly don't know what you're talking about... delivery *companies* are actually one of the few people that are explicitly *allowed* to drive on *your property* to deliver *your packages.* If you don't want delivery *companies* on your property then maybe don't use those delivery *companies?* As someone else already stated though, the USPS is not a *"company".*

[@jasonford9705]

@@joshh535. Driving on your property means using something like a driveway or access road. It doesn’t mean you can use sidewalks or lawns or anything else not intended for vehicles. It doesn’t dismiss the driver from liability if he damages property.

[@Rattys]

Oh, you think you own your property all the way to the rode , don't you? That's adorable. Go ahead and build a fence right up to the road, and you will actually learn the laws very quickly. Never mind how hard it is to sue a government agency. Dude needs to STFU or get a PO box, because his mail is all going to be undeliverable if he keeps bitching, because the neither the sidewalk or the easement are actually his.

[@sirflingspoo]

The police chief and sheriff are failing this property owner. They need to be involved.

[@snowflakehunter]

Why, the postal truck was not on his property. It was on public easement. Anything from the sidewalk towards the road is public easement and is not the property of the homeowner.

[@DirtFlyer]

@@snowflakehunter You are incorrect. Just because it is an easement doesn't mean it is not the home owner's property. An easement just allows the city to install utilities and sidewalks in that area, and for pedestrians and cyclists to access the sidewalks. It would be ridiculous to assume that an easement allows anyone to drive down the sidewalk.

[@snowflakehunter]

@@DirtFlyer I am correct. Public easement means it belongs to the public. It does not belong to the homeowner. Learn the law.

[@thud9797]

​@@DirtFlyer That is true as far as the definition of an easement but in most cases in neighborhoods like this the city or county owns the land from sidewalk to sidewalk and I would be surprised if that is not the case here. Problem is that mail carriers and trucks are almost never pulled over for fear of interfering with the US Mail. In my neighborhood one day we got home and everything outside the sidewalk was dug up including the trees that many neighbors had planted years ago, too bad, it was city property and they needed to replace a sewer line so everything else had to go.

[@brutusinthesin5883]

​@@snowflakehunter not the damages done to his sprinkler and solar lights that were on his property. The video clearly shows them driving on the person's property.

[@fan_of_brent_terhune_comedian]

Wow, this homeowner is doing EVERYTHING RIGHT. I hope this gets resolved for him

[@macrograms]

yeah. it's like he's doing his best w/ extra. Amen!

[@arthursutter109]

The mailbox was originally mounted on the far side of the mailbox. Post Office should have instructed the residents mailbox mounting regulations from the beginning

[@pattycarljackson]

@@arthursutter109I bet you they did and they are leaving it out because the homeowner isn’t going to admit he’s wrong.

[@OldMotorcycleAdventures]

​@@pattycarljackson if that was the case, they would have cited that when the reporter tried talking to them

[@itypethetruthnobshere8975]

how the hell is putting cones on the front of his house everything right? He doesnt even own that part

[@croach2194]

You do not drive on grass or other people's properties. Such disgusting treatment of customers.

[@madjackgamingandfitness498]

Police would be happy to pull you over for reckless driving or claim under the influence for this behavior.

[@tyeedwrds]

Can't do it, they can try! They can't mess with a mail carrier. I carried and had multiple interactions with police. Police that thought they had jurisdiction over mail carriers. In each case they either were admonished by a judge, Postal Inspector or Postmaster. I was trapped in a business park by fire equipment, so I had to park in a fire lane to deliver my mail. The fire chief threatened to tow my truck. Keep in mind it was HIS VEHICLES that were causing the problem. I told him I'd move if he'd simply give me the space. Instead of helping, he again threatened to have me arrested and towed! At that point I said, "I f*cking dare you! Touch me or the vehicle, you'll be the only one arrested!" Later, after he gave up, he was visited by the Inspection Service. Where they explained I could park wherever necessary and that he couldn't touch me, the mail and the vehicle or he'd be arrested. If you are aware, NYC police tried that a few years back. Got angry with a carrier delivering packages that had a turn lane blocked. They slammed the carrier to the ground, arrested them (BUT LEFT THE VEHICLE IN THE TURN LANE?)! Big mistake, if the Postal Inspectors hadn't gone easy one them, they could have gone to prison. They got their ears chewed off and asses handed to them by a federal judge. Only uninformed police officers mess with carriers without a justified reason. Driving on the curb, isn't sufficient.

[@allandill2033]

😂 an officer would just think "this guy is parking" and leave it at that. Such a stupid thing to get mad over

[@SmethwickCouncilmanBint]

​@@tyeedwrds You said all that thinking it is a flex? You think think you are better than us, can ruin our properties, and drive recklessly just because the police aren't allowed to mess with you? What you have just said and the matter in which you presented it has now made me wholeheartedly wish that changes in the future. I am tired of the elitism.

[@marcmo7138]

@@SmethwickCouncilmanBint Entitlement. The mail is antiquated. Please drive however you wish Mr. Mailman, that junk mail has to be delivered.

[@donovanniles]

@@tyeedwrds damn, your so cool

[@bobdomarasky3117]

He deserves every dollar for the damages they have caused

[@FoxHoundMulder]

USPS doesn’t fight back in court cases. Unfortunately, a government entity also isn’t required to pay out any damages or losses when they lose the case (which is why they don’t spend the money to fight in the first place. He’s guaranteed to win but He’ll get no money and they’ll keep continue driving on his lawn with no consequences. God bless capitalism. - Personal Experience

[@Steve-fx2fb]

That mailbox isn't to U.S. postal code. It should be a foot from the road edge. Move the mailbox and everything is solved.

[@Steve-fx2fb]

Position your mailbox 41″ to 45″ from the road surface to the bottom of the mailbox or point of mail entry. Place your mailbox 6″ to 8″ back from the curb. If you do not have a raised curb, contact your local postmaster for guidance. Put your house or apartment number on the mailbox. If your mailbox is on a different street from your house or apartment, put your full street address on the box.

[@VAFranky]

​​@@Steve-fx2fbif you watch toward the end of the video he tried to do exactly that and they stopped delivering mail to him entirely saying that it was "unsafe". They still deliver mail to the neighbor whose mailbox is like 6 feet from the road (which is where his originally was) by driving on the sidewalk.

[@Steve-fx2fb]

@@VAFranky Fair enough. He better talk to his neighbor about moving the box. The post office doesn't care. Why fight them over it if it can be resolved that way?

[@virgobutterfly1680]

Unacceptable! The USPS should pay for the damage.

[@williamrudolph3481]

And mental stress and punitive damages.

[@Inkmachine46]

They will... Then up the prices of all that bullshit Amazon you Karen's order

[@aaron-dd5zr]

I disagree

[@pattycarljackson]

Well it looks like everyone else has a street side mailbox and so should he, I bet they sent him letters telling him to put it on the street and he refused, there is definitely more to this story.

[@That.Guy.]

Why are the mailboxes on the wrong side of the sidewalk?!?

[@yeahright302]

can you imagine how late this dudes mail is going to be now once the post office sees this???lol

[@Jedi71]

It's obvious that route needs to be changed to a walking route.

[@AccountInactive]

Bingo

[@rachelburgener819]

WOW, how come we can see the common sense !??!!??? ❤️😀

[@keonhobgood1551]

As a mailman I can guarantee you it was a walking route and the mail carrier is trying to change it to a driving route and this guy didn’t put the mail box down on the street like they asked him. Not saying the carrier is right for this just saying what I think happened. Not all mail carriers are like this my route is 22 miles on foot and my customers love me for it the give me water food etc. my boss says I should start making new residents but boxes on the street and I say no this is better for our customers.

[@donniebrasco4114]

Ya right. A lazy government employee walking. Never gonna happen.

[@dynevor6327]

@@keonhobgood1551 Time to catch up, in Oz posties used to use push bikes, now they use step through Hondas or a small 3 wheeler electric vehicle.

[@axmajpayne]

If the mail carriers can not safely deliver to mailboxes along the road, then it needs to be made a walking route. On the other side of the street, you can see that the mailboxes are on the houses and it is a walking route.

[@virginiamoss7045]

This. Both sides need a walking route which is not efficient. For vehicle delivery all boxes need to be as this homeowner has done; place it at the curb. The safety issue mentioned is that they worry that the mail trucks will get hit by fast-moving traffic; therefore, they need a different solution. Maybe DeJoy would have a solution that also does not work. Republicans are out to destroy the postal service however they can. That would be a terrible loss.

[@jamesharrison2374]

I am sure they are taking applications for those that would like to walk the route, and possibly get shot or robbed while doing so.

[@tomstiel7576]

@@virginiamoss7045 ha ha,,,next thing you know it will be Trumps fault,,,,are you really that delusional ???

[@Gfysimpletons]

Uh, have ya seen who the usps hires now? 😂😂😂😂 thieves, criminals and the laziest…..that’s who! He’s lucky he’s even getting his mail.

[@virginiamoss7045]

@@tomstiel7576 DeJoy is Trump's fault. He and Trump is why we can no longer trust the postal service to be timely or secure. Never put a check in the mail.

[@Zeke2p9]

How is this not common sense that sidewalks are not roads?

[@bend8353]

You been to most of Europe?

[@nicolausranker8521]

If you or I did this, we would get a ticket.

[@MrCBeery]

Actually your mailbox 41″ to 45″ from the road surface to the bottom of the mailbox or point of mail entry. His mailbox is further than that. So it's the home owners fault.

[@stanleyolszewski7701]

The answer is in your post. “Common Sense”. 😁

[@dp.2766]

Back in the 80’s there was a popular bumper sticker that said “If you don’t like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk “ USPS should print some up and put them on their mail trucks. 🤔🤔🤔

[@Pencil-o1p]

I personally never see any carrier driving on the sidewalks. It’s not only law but also common sense. It’s insane that they were doing it for 5 years and nothing stopped them.

[@johnwalterick5226]

He needs a lawyer

[@tnolddawg]

Not only does the USPS need to be sued to reimburse property owners for damages, but the postmaster in this district needs to be fired for allowing this to occur

[@spudspuddy]

they will kill a little kid playing there soon or walking to school...mounting a sidewalk is illegal

[@vincnetjones3037]

What damage... And where are the Postal trucks gonna park... they can't stop on the road.

[@spudspuddy]

@@vincnetjones3037 you are just desperate to mount the sidewalk and run over a child aren't you??? Stop your nonsense

[@imaniwilliams816]

​​​​@@vincnetjones3037 Driving through grass repeatedly very much damages it. The guy literally said in the video that he was quoted $500 to repair the damages that they caused and that they weren't just driving over grass either. Yes, they can. All they have to do is put on their hazard lights so people know to go around and if that street's too narrow for them to do that, they can park on another street.

[@fe247]

​@@vincnetjones3037cant stop on road?? What are you on, I need some of that, seems pretty strong stuff hahahaha

[@Mikey8239]

What would happen if anyone else would drive down the sidewalk? What do the police say about driving down the sidewalk, no pedestrian safety concern?

[@beautyupabove4708]

Very good questions. This is absolutely horrible. No Christmas cookies for the carrier or gifts inside a card for years of service.

[@Michael-pi8ps]

The local police don’t have the authority over the USPS. As long as the postal carrier operates the vehicle in a “safe manner” we have the ability to do pretty much anything.

[@missflowerpower8724]

@@Michael-pi8ps What they are doing is NOT “in a safe manner”. How about my family and I drive “safely” by following this joker all over town?!?

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

@@Michael-pi8ps -- Arguably, this isn't safe.

[@Pathite]

@@TheRealScooterGuy I think he's saying to go stand infront of the mail truck to make it not safe and suddenly more illegal... on paper

[@Anna-ou5jv]

0:30 JESUS, CHANNEL 7!!!!!!!! You couldn’t use a better screenshot for the guy’s photo?!?!! HE is NOT the crazy one in this situation!! That photo you used of him looks like Nick Nolte’s MUGSHOT! Come on! Shoulda done him better!!! 😂

[@Anna-ou5jv]

Also, if I was Benny, I would put those annoying large landscaping rocks on the tree lawn to block the mail carrier. Not that he should have to resort to that! I am just petty like that!!! Or get a cheap stroller from a thrift store on just stand there on the sidewalk with it at mail delivery time. Again, not that people have time to waste…. I would just be petty like that! Oh, the thrift store also has a $10 rickety wheel chair…. I’d buy it and sit in the wheelchair on the sidewalk every day at mail delivery time. 😂😂😂

[@j.h.6081]

"They refused to talk to me." As someone who's observed people trying to deal with USPS, this sounds about right. I try my best to mail a package and leave while interacting as little as possible to avoid the passive aggressive government employee ridiculousness.

[@dooleyboy13]

They're literally not allowed to talk to the media - it's part of their contract.

[@j.h.6081]

@@dooleyboy13 They won't resolve this man's issue either. Running over his lawn when he clearly has a kid is dangerous. They're destroying his property on purpose since he's already told them about the situation.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

​@@j.h.6081 can't get them to STOP delivering dead/long gone people's mail...

[@Juanita372]

And now they are playing childish by not delivering his mail. Absolutely unacceptable!

[@bennym1956]

Mailboxes are too far from edge of road are NOT in US Postal CODE/regulations !!!

[@DonziGT230]

@@bennym1956 BS.

[@jscrub6232]

@@bennym1956 Yet he moved it.. You must be a democrat because wow... I have seen some dumb ass comments but grats you win!

[@jimmy_kirk]

@@bennym1956 He moved the mailbox CLOSER to the edge of the road...

[@stevebabiak6997]

@@DonziGT230 - please research the Postal regulations before you call factual information BS.

[@tylerk.7947]

At first I thought he was being overly dramatic. But now I realize he isnt

[@Gregknows-uj8gg]

I think he is being petty and should be happy that they deliver his mail when he has a mailbox where they want it. For free they deliver his mail. I would forever ban him from the delivery route he is on and make him rent a box at the post office for $180 per year and travel too the post office too pick up his mail. He is required too meet the Post Office standards for his route. He needs too put the mail box back and widen the concrete sidewalk so they do not damage is sprinkler and yard instead of complaining.

[@MrBobbo18]

He definitely looks calm and not the type of guy who flips out if his McDonalds is cold.

[@wickedwood04]

​@Gregknows-uj8gg they don't deliver his mail for free! There are these things called stamps and taxes that pays for this service!

[@SploogMcDuck]

@@Gregknows-uj8gg someone's a petty little bit***. I bet your the lazy MFer working that rout.

[@enmiredbythelazy4401]

@@wickedwood04 Right? Seems like Greg knows dick about owning a home, how government operations are paid for, that sidewalks are public and it's not permissible to alter them as a homeowner, and likely pretty much everything else he "knows". “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ - Mark Twain

[@Danny-ge2my]

Okay from now on you can just go to the Post office and collect your mail once a month in a large box!!!!!

[@BobFrailey]

ROOFING NAIL ARE SO GOOD AT PUTTING A STOP TO PEOPLE DRIVING ON YOUR LAWN

[@chele-chele]

Kinda sucks when you mow though

[@gorak9000]

@@chele-chele Was going to say - they're bad for tires, but also bad for your mower blades too. Need a board with nails sticking through it you can place down, and then easily pull them all up to cut the grass, or, you know, they could just not drive on the sidewalk like morons

[@DarkWolfsDen]

@@chele-chele Not if you know exactly how many you put down and have a neodymium magnet on a string.

[@Exis247]

@@DarkWolfsDen They make these big magnets with wheels specifically for collecting nails from a construction site. They're effective too.

[@cybertoe1221]

A few spike strips are easy to keep track of.

[@pjl2623]

I had a neighbor who had a similar issue. You know what solved it, a piece of wood with big ass nails in it. He put that out and covered it with dirt where the letter carrier would drive on his property. Blew out two tires and that was the last time anyone from the PO drove on his property.

[@xPWN74]

Great idea 👍

[@chris_cz]

That’s awesome

[@ss-fc2fh]

That's a stupid idea. Also, sounds like complete BS.

[@xPWN74]

@@ss-fc2fh OK calm down Adolf

[@guido69x]

@@ss-fc2fh not having any solutions and say the other people solutions are stupid,thats stupid!!!

[@stephenherring]

FILE A LAW SUIT. They can apologize all they want but until they do something about it an apology means nothing.

[@robinmiller5256]

…if you can afford to do that, great. Otherwise nothing will happen…government is not here to help or serve the public in any way, shape or form and they certainly prove it. Cheers

[@sasquatch7234]

Lol good luck suing a government agency behind a union. Mailmen are damn near untouchable.

[@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691]

Put a fence up... There solved.

[@610LaurelStreet]

@@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 those geniuses will drive through it then sue the homeowner for damaging their mail jalopies. He needs a couple decorative boulders or brick retaining walls or concrete planters or steel pipes 😂😂😂

[@amandawilson2346]

Good luck with a law suit. Those are privately insured military issued vehicles. They take them where they want. All the homeowner needs to do is move it to the street. Problem solved.

[@jasunsmith9136]

Most government workers are often rude and petty. Not sure why as they usually paid much more than some one doing a similar job not for the government.

[@sneakerbabeful]

That is not true. Federal workers are paid _much less_ than private sector doing same work. And overgeneralizing to all federal workers is petty, and helps nothing.

[@eligebrown8998]

This is illigel and dangerous. Get a lawyer and sue.

[@billmalec]

It's also... Illegal.

[@billmalec]

@@bennym1956 he moved it to the side of the road and they refused to use it. So...

[@torrycole6477]

My wife is a retired mail carrier. People need to put the box where the postal service wants them at the correct height or the postal service can refuse service. I don’t think she did anything like this. However it is a tough job.

[@billmalec]

@@torrycole6477 all it would take is saying.. Can you please move this to here. He did move it. Maybe there was a problem with that location or the height also. Who knows. Sounds like a job for a face to face... Let's get this straightened out before someone does something stupid.. You know like drive down the sidewalk and lawn.

[@torrycole6477]

Billmakie; You are correct. People are supposed to contact the postmaster to get a location for their mailboxes. You wouldn’t believe some of the rules that the mail carriers are supposed to follow. Like they are not to put their vehicles in reverse. Good luck getting out of a South Dakota snow bank.

[@chorlesteajones6794]

"Safety concern" is the people walking on the sidewalk having to NOT get run over by a postal delivery vehicle. Not only is it a crime, but I'm pretty sure they can lose their job (both the driver and their supervisor). This needs to be addressed with the USPS main headquarters.

[@benwagner5089]

Waiting for someone in a wheelchair to be using the sidewalk at the same time as the mailman. Who would win, ADA violation or mail interference?

[@trvman1]

5 years, they don't care. Let your Congressman see this video.

[@bornmuser215]

I'm sorry, but when the mail truck blew past his mailbox and all the cones and pulled all the way up on the neighbor's grass right in front of the cameras 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@thatgirlPAIGE94]

That is ridiculous! I’d be pissed too 😡

[@t-bonena3609]

Thank you for helping this man. This is dangerous driving and illegal. Keep us updated.

[@audraarndt1824]

Next level laziness

[@averyjames4623]

What do you expect from the Post Office?

[@daddyrabbit835]

Not really, if it's a motorized route.

[@dooleyboy13]

Nope, this is a failure at the management level, not the carrier.

[@nomaderic]

Why are the mailboxes not along the road? Ive never seen that before. They should be along the road that way the mailman can drive by and drop off the mail and just keep going. Who tf puts the mailbox on the inside of the sidewalk, thats dumb

[@shunt8084]

That’s my curiosity. Thinking there are some requirements on mailbox placement.

[@michellehawkins1027]

I thought the same at first, but then It stated when he put his box by the road, the post office stopped delivering his mail saying it was a "safety hazard". So it's the post office having them do it. Then the post office should be walking the route not driving it, if they want the boxes there.

[@PhilBesch]

You seem to be one of a few here that are actually thinking clearly. The mail man will drive to the box on this route. If everyone would put their box at the road, then this won't be an issue.

[@dads1962]

Its a walking route

[@nomaderic]

@michellehawkins1027 yea I used to be a amazon driver so I would interact with the mailmen all the time. Either they would drive and reach their hand out the window and put it in the mailbox or they would park at the end of the street and walk. I do agree though there is no reason they shouldn't deliver his mail.

[@GoldSniper-ox7rk]

And thats why we cant have anything nice.

[@icantw8]

Typical bureaucratic behavior.

[@skivijimmy]

The government has always and will always view us citizens as the enemy. They have that ugly us against them attitude

[@bennym1956]

Mailboxes are too far from edge of road are NOT in US Postal CODE/regulations !!!

[@reelreeler8778]

@@bennym1956 The USPS wouldn't allow the mailboxes on that street to be put at the street curb. This should be a walking-route for the USPS if that is true.

[@reedwright301]

@@reelreeler8778It was designed to be a walking route but has evolved to this because of crime. Now, it has become laziness with the crime thing as an excuse. Plus, more postal carriers would be required if this were still a walking route which would increase the cost of delivering mail. All of this crossed with the typical laziness, incompetence, and inconsideration of a Detroit government worker equals broken sprinkler heads and ruts in your yard.

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

What type is calling 43 times in one day though?

[@Cavemankind_]

It is a very nice lawn, which requires a lot of work & money to keep up. I don’t blame him for being pissed.

[@EdWeibe]

and that sidewalk will eventually tilt.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I don't get the grass thing. It's JUST grass. Doesn't interest me in the least. At least a plant or flowers has payoff easily and quickly. Grass you can do anything to it and still get nothing back. Waste of my time

[@FvckYoutube-zx4xh]

​@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823Good for you, enjoy your spray painted gravel😂

[@Carlozz_vlogs]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823Some of us actually care about having a nice lawn, it gets expensive

[@PANZERFAUST90]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 It doesn't matter what you think because it's not your property.

[@You-Be-The-Judge]

I am a mail carrier and started watching the video thinking that I was going to point out why my fellow mail carrier was in the right and the home owner was in the wrong. Nope. I just cannot justify what I have seen in the video. If the mail carrier doing this see this. Do your job and stop making the rest of us look bad by association.

[@billbradley2480]

That’s a public easement he’s driving on. The home owner should take the grass out and pour cement there.

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@billbradley2480homeowners can't make a road wider without government allowing it or the local government doing it

[@Doc5thMech]

So it was a put-on for the camera.

[@calvee1100]

No no mention of how the mailbox is not installed correctly? It has to be near the curb and not the sidewalk. 🤦‍♂️

[@jonathanjones3126]

@calvee1100 that isnt true for all places. Maybe it is a walking route and the mail carrer is extremely lazy

[@rainbowwarrior6452]

Typical govt employees thinking rules don’t apply to them. Put huge decorative boulders in the lawn and let them drive over that.

[@solidmoon8266]

Absolutely lazy and stupid behavior of these mail carriers. All so they dont gotta walk 10 bloody feet. Even worse is then when he compromised to make it as easy as possible for them while not driving on his grass, they retaliate by illegally denying him mail delivery.

[@redwoodtrail]

This randomly came up on my feed. Great reporting! Good to see a reporter actually doing an investigative piece. I’d like a follow up. I’d love a city council meeting, meeting with the mayor, postmaster meeting, etc. This is a government agency! Hold them accountable as they would us! Good job anchor. Do a follow up please!

[@rachelburgener819]

👏👏👏 I 2nd that notion !!! ❤️😀

[@knightscape]

Happened here in MN as well. Footage to the local postmaster and threats to sue for damages finally got it to stop.

[@yespleasehjh]

Typical Post Office response. We live on a hill and last winter we had a nasty ice storm that lasted several days. A fellow came down the hill, lost control of his pickup, and sheared the ‘cluster mailbox’ right off the concrete sidewalk. The Post Office told us we will need to DRIVE to the nearest Post Office (4 miles from us) to get our mail because putting mail on our porch was unsafe. They had absolutely NO plans to replace it based on the idea that they were not responsible for the damage to the mailbox. Went round and round for 4 months. Got our City Councilor involved, not to mention the Mayor and finally our State Representative for area. It took almost 5 months but we finally got the mailbox replaced.

[@fuserwrap]

He needs to contact the USPS Office of Inspector General to file a complaint. They're a separate agency that oversees and investigates wrongdoing by the USPS

[@72hourbob61]

Accountability and taking pride in the job you do for the most part is gone.

[@valeriekehrt7566]

Sad but true. That is my biggest disappointment now.

[@reformcongress]

Attention USPS: Driving on the Sidewalk is a hazard you're causing!

[@winston67guy]

And stopping on that busy road isn’t a hazard?

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@winston67guy then make that route a walking route or get local governments to widen the road

[@dooleyboy13]

​@@jonathanjones3126and while we're at it, stop blaming the carriers for the failings of management. The carrier doesn't make the call on changing sections of the route from mounted to walking, even if they tell their management about this issue daily.

[@jonathanjones3126]

@@dooleyboy13 it doesn't matter who tells you to drive the route. You cannot drive on grass or a sidewalk.

[@AmberSantana-is3dq]

@@winston67guyyou call that a busy road 😂 I drive semi and would love to to stop on this road instead of real busy roads I face on a daily basis

[@marionmarino1616]

My sister had this problem with guys using her very large lawn to turn around, etc. she had some VERY LARGE rocks placed in a few places. She began seeing car fenders and undercarriages on her lawn. Didn’t take long, and they stayed off her lawn.

[@MovieGasm]

Why is their mailbox not placed on the street?

[@rh906]

That would be his dumb neighbor.

[@hunterark2000]

Because this route is meant to be walked , the carrier is lazy

[@elitepersonality9515]

A lot of places require a mailbox to be so many feet off of the roadway as well so that could be why

[@catbangs276]

As an Amazon driver, I'd park curb-side, hit my flashers, get angry stares and sometimes the finger from motorist stopped behind me, deliver the parcel,, and then go on my merry way.

[@bluesummers5051]

Are you not allowed to park in the driveway of the house you’re delivering to?

[@turkey4957]

You are but going nose in then having to reverse out onto a street with those big vans or trucks is highly difficult/inefficient

[@dashaott849]

As long as you park curbside. Too many times the delivery drives block the whole street. That gets old quick.

[@daddyrabbit835]

With all due respect you don't deliver to mail boxes.

[@enmiredbythelazy4401]

The Mrs. and I often joke that is a Chicago "hello". Just a friendly greeting from the motorists as they pass :D

[@Southwestgamer505]

Why is that mailbox so far back? The mail truck driver's seat is on the right, so they can drive up and deliver the mail easily. Maybe the homeowner should put the mailbox where it belongs, like everyone else. It's not the mail carrier's fault.

[@everybuddy5924]

I remember when the carriers pretty much walked their entire route with a 3 wheel cart and/or a leather bag. Every so many blocks there would be drop boxes for Postal Drivers to place mail in for the walking carrier to pick up for the next few blocks of delivery and to drop off outgoing mail for the drivers to pick up.

[@kathyflorcruz552]

Nowadays though they are getting mugged.

[@dudeonbike800]

Endless, mindless streamlining to provide "shareholder value" so they can "run it like a business." How is mail delivery supposed to be "run like a business?" It's a GOVERNMENT SERVICE guaranteed by the Constitution! It's as dumb as asking fire or police to "operate in the black!" Driving routes will only lead to more obesity. So USPS execs make more dough, while society picks up the future and MUCH higher costs of health care for employees who formerly got paid to exercise for their entire careers!

[@Ifixstuf]

With 100x the mail now to deliver?

[@darrennew8211]

@@Ifixstuf You think there's more physical mail these days than there was before email was in every pocket?

[@Ifixstuf]

@@darrennew8211 Have you not heard of amazon, ebay, temu etc? Why do you think they have to hire more people around every holiday?

[@michaela2757]

Most mail carriers walk their route when a sidewalk is in place, driving on sidewalks is a dangerous for public.

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

most mail carriers aren't as lazy as the one in this story. it's odd that all of the mailboxes aren't along the road - probably due to people hitting them driving too fast for the road (or on their phone)

[@metaempiricist]

@@Scotty_in_Ohio They said in the video that the post office response was that boxes on the streetside were a "safety hazard". As if driving on the sidewalk isn't a safety hazard.

[@667mumble]

Utterly outrageous how lazy and negligent this postal service is

[@LisaH2472]

Not all postal workers are like this. This is more the exception than the rule.

[@tyeedwrds]

I carried for many years, it's not negligent, (lazy probably?) it's because that road is unsafe and the box ISN'T on the edge of the curb. Additionally, the land to the left of the sidewalk, is an easement, meaning it's municipal property. Not his!

[@ab1923]

@@tyeedwrds Did you not watch the video? He's not complaining about them driving on the easement he's complaining they got past that AND past the sidewalk onto his lawn. Secondly he DID move the box to the edge of the road where its supposed to be, and they said its now unsafe for them to deliver to it.

[@DaysSpentWell]

@@tyeedwrds Review the video to the part where he had to replace his sprinkler system.

[@BAH912]

Our post office worker aways puts other peoples mail in our mailbox. And ours is put in others mailboxes. Not very attentive to good delivery .

[@HWG-wm8ld]

The mailman was once a highly respected job.

[@PlayBetterSlots]

Now it’s a guaranteed job if you’re a criminal or an illegal. Thanks Biden

[@annagraham7083]

True, when I grew up we had a regular mailman for years. Knew him by name and as kids you respected him. Our guy was just a cool happy guy

[@grayrabbit2211]

Our normal mailman at our office and at one of my homes are pretty decent guys. Friendly, helpful. Now, the employees at the local post office are a totally different story. They clearly don't want to work.

[@SFelectrolysis]

This one is going postal 😂

[@LeticiaSarabia-yb8dm]

Yeah, but Not Anymore!! ☹️😠😠💔🖤

[@DragonNinja4680]

He needs to also file a complaint with the state attorney generals office.

[@posapop27]

Unfortunately the AG (state agency) has no authority over the Post Office which is a federal agency. I would definitely reach out to my US Rep though.

[@HerpDerpNV]

@@posapop27 A mail man can be cited/ arrested for committing a crime on the job. Being a federal postal worker isn't a get out of trouble scott free ticket when you do something illegal like in the video. Its the individual's actions being illegal not something with the agency.

[@srh2301]

SCOTUS will then take on this case and dismiss it, because changing the mail truck route would be an obstruction of Trump's re-election. And it will be processed immediately, because this case is more important than the insurrection case of DT...

[@posapop27]

@@HerpDerpNVOk gotcha, I thought you meant to complain about the conduct of the Post Office, not the individual driver. In that case, he should complain to the police chief and the mayor to get them to issue citations so the state’s attorney can prosecute!

[@avelinovaz3174]

This is ridiculous. US postal service has No accountability. There is no respect.

[@justsuzy321]

And yet they want more money??? Fk them!

[@EdWeibe]

The person needs to stay calm. Dont give them the upper hand by doing anything crazy.

[@johnreed2278]

NEI runs the organization and when they fail and fail and fail, we the tax payer has to pay more.

[@Anne_Frank00]

All USPS services are like this, fuck it. Shut it down and hand it over to a private company

[@battles423]

The mailman isn’t allowed to drive on sidewalks. And home owners aren’t allowed or permit to put construction 🚧 cones on the public right of way

[@Mt-ze3xe]

You can always trust government employees to do everything in the laziest way possible

[@lilroach1979]

As a former government employee, I agree. 😂

[@jacobg7655]

shows how little you know about the post office, WE ARE NOT GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES! and don't just lump us all in to that statement.. just showing how stupid you are

[@valeriekehrt7566]

Starts at the top...

[@timchamberlin9280]

Government work is where ambition goes to die.

[@audraarndt1824]

Next level laziness

[@diahegge5395]

The postal carriers have become like the most entitled workers I have ever seen. My postal worker who I like will still blow her horn in the worst way when she pulls into my driveway which is also an easement. I have to pay for the pot holes that fed ex, ups, and her create. Because they won’t slow down!!

[@freespeech.7254]

Next level laziness is my chocolate lab not moving an inch for his treat. He will wait for me to put it in his mouth🤣🤣

[@diahegge5395]

@@freespeech.7254 stop it!! 😂😂

[@MrCBeery]

Noon the homeowner is at fault. YOur mailbox 41″ to 45″ from the road surface to the bottom of the mailbox or point of mail entry.

[@craigklein5563]

Guarantee you it's being done by a black individual.

[@5967malibu]

Imagine the Federal Government not breaking the law...

[@timc333]

I really can't !

[@richardmesser1091]

Imagine you with a smart post

[@jasongrooming36]

@@richardmesser1091so you’ve got nothing? Why even comment? No one cares that you don’t like the comment.

[@jeffreymartin6369]

Right?

[@loricrane5315]

We all know it's not the feds. It's one guy in charge of that area who has a beef with perfect lawn guy.

[@helloworld12]

Nobody should be driving on pedestrian walk unless it’s an emergency service vehicle like ambulance, police and fire truck.

[@mastanickel]

I hope this now gets the attention it deserves. If the street is unsafe that issue needs to be addressed. The answer is not destroying peoples property or driving on the sidewalk!!!

[@mariaposse9632]

These type of stories make me appreciate my city postal workers so much, walking all day in all kinds of weather and temperatures and ALWAYS friendly and polite!

[@Magazinelady]

On hot day, maybe you can meet one of them with a cold bottle of water.

[@Utubin]

Yes I have always loved Mayberry. Me, Andy,Drill sergeant Fifth and Floyd love sitting out front barber shop and waiting on Mr. (Jingle) to deliver our mail. That and people watching. We have the life.

[@quietbeers2265]

Operating a vehicle on a public sidewalk is illegal. Where are all the worthless police?

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

if anyone else did this the police would magically appear....

[@terrymurphy7790]

Donuts, just saying. 😅

[@joshuafreshney1206]

Those pigs are too busy in the canteen doing lines of coke.

[@atomicwedgie8176]

We got them fired! -BLM

[@TheBluemindedGod]

@@atomicwedgie8176 Give me an example of a single cop that was fired because of BLM. Cops are lazy, but they still get their full pay for their uselessness.

[@itsjustme9906]

I guarantee that this dumb home owner was told to move his mailbox before this all started! I would have refused him delivery until he complied!

[@randallrichnow6648]

Sue them. Go to court already. That's what they are there for.

[@librab103]

He isn't going to win because the USPS is a federal entity and because of is regulated by Congress, only Congress can make the USPS pay a fine or pay the guy for damages. There is a few court rulings on this.

[@RLucas3000]

There’s this thing called qualified immunity for government agents while doing their jobs. The government is afraid for carriers parking in the road to fill his box. Probably a carrier was killed doing that so they won’t let them do that any more. Also he can still go get his mail, if he doesn’t wait too long, at the post office. It’s a pain all the way around, but just move your lights and sprinklers so they don’t get him and let your mail person deliver in a way so they aren’t killed by crazy drivers.

[@blowinsmokeupyour]

​@RLucas3000 this isn't it. Those lazy carriers can still do their job just fine, and safely, without breaking the law. They don't even have to get out of the the vehicle on the traffic side

[@jessyhart6638]

​@@RLucas3000lol what a joke. They can do their job without leaving the vehicle. Lazy. Entitled.

[@xfloodcasual8124]

Probably $10k to get the lawsuit started

[@liontribeofjudah5616]

Sidewalks are for pedestrians not motor vehicles! This is dangerous. Five years.. this man has had to put up with this reckless behavior. He certainly needs a lawyer..USPS needs to be held accountable..These mail carriers certainly know what they are doing to this poor man..they seem to be rebels..ignoring all the yard signs and cones. No one should have their property damaged over and over.

[@theconscience01]

When you graduate third grade, read the postal regulations governing the idiot homeowners mailbox - - not a lot of pictures, so you may have to wait for the comic book edition

[@philtucker1224]

I bet the postal delivery drivers have agreed with the union not to have to leave their trucks in case of danger from robbers maybe?

[@MrCBeery]

@@liontribeofjudah5616 still homeowners fault for not having mailbox in the right spot.

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@theconscience01when you graduate first grade you will learn about sidewalks....

[@bennyhunt256]

​@MrCBeery completely wrong. BTW that's me in the video

[@RMW565]

If the mayor saw this video and didn't site the driver or get him or her fired, I would go even higher. This is flagrant disrespect and illegal.

[@hahawoshedman4017]

Oh yeah, god forbid some grass gets trampled to deliver your mail. You know they can just grow back, right?

[@dakota9821]

@@hahawoshedman4017 Your life must be awfully sad to sit here and keep parroting this braindead take. If you damage someone's property you deserve to pay for it to be fixed. I doubt you would like it if I came into your parents house and damaged all your crap. Grow up and stop spam posting this intellectual-deficiency you call your opinion...

[@everybuddy5924]

A city mayor has nothing to do with a Federal Agency.

[@everybuddy5924]

@@hahawoshedman4017 Its breaking sprinklers and other damage. As well as a violation per USPS rules.

[@hahawoshedman4017]

@@everybuddy5924 Yeah and? Thats only like 60 bucks. Less than $11 a year.

[@DougMcDave]

Not to play the devil's advocate, but the owner could move the mailbox next to the road like everyone else. Just saying! Actually the next door neighbor is at fault.

[@camohawk6703]

He needs to sue them.

[@JessicaZarzycki]

For what the mail driver was it's job

[@darrylf7538]

​@@JessicaZarzyckiFor destruction of personal property. Mail delivery doesn't supercede the law.