P1351 crank, no start (part one)

P1351 with a crank, no start and help from scannerdanner forum

[@farmboy30117]

A lesson is definitely learned here! Thanks for sharing the knowledge! Excellent drawing at the end to explain it all!!

[@wyattoneable]

I sure do appreciate the comment. I learned a lot on this one.

[@Badgertronix]

Nice work. If it's not the module after that thorough diagnosis I'll eat my hat. Stickers are looking great

[@wyattoneable]

I'm with you on that one buddy. If it's not the module then it has to be the wire between the module and the coil. I didn't check that because of the nature of the sudden non running truck. I shouldn't assume but I'll show the results either way. Thanks for your sticker, it really brightens up the place!

[@JamesLaceyJr]

Good video Wyatt. You are doing what you have to do to save a little bit of money. GOOD job.

[@wyattoneable]

Thanks Dizzy. One reason I'm taking lessons and doing my own work is because I got stuck with a $800 bill for a new computer that didn't fix the problem. Never again. I'm working on part two of this video...the fix!

[@TheDisgruntledMechanic]

Nice video Wyatt! I hope it just the module. Can't wait for part 2!

[@wyattoneable]

As soon as I can get a part I'm on it! Thanks for the text!

[@EXOVCDS]

Logical step-by-step checks... looks & sounds like she'll be running tomorrow! :)

[@wyattoneable]

That's me logical with no experience. But that will come with time. Thanks for taking some time to watch.

[@caryhubbardfamilychannel7516]

Very cool video, after all the testing, looks like you're heading the right direction on it, I hope that's it and it fixes it ok. Good luck, thanks for sharing, stay safe.

[@wyattoneable]

Thanks Cary. If I can get the part we'll all know how this works out tomorrow.

[@WolverinePrepper1]

Pretty cool diagnostic testing. You are on it. I hope you get it fixed.

[@wyattoneable]

I'm working part two right now with the fix!

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Excellent rundown.... Hopefully that does the trick, nothing I hate more than doing all that work, and have just one more unknown pop up.....

[@wyattoneable]

Thanks. I just picked up the part. It was more expensive than a used computer! I hope this does it. We'll know by tonight.

[@ozzstars_cars]

Diagnostics like a boss!

[@wyattoneable]

It's a steep learning curve! Thanks.

[@SteveRobReviews]

Awesome buddy , I think you pretty much nailed it. She going to go.

[@wyattoneable]

I hope so. If my local NAPA store has the part there will be a part two video with the fix...or fail. Stay tuned. Isn't it cool that scannerdanner has been helping out?

[@SteveRobReviews]

***** Watching you do this is the way I can understand . You nailed it Wyatt

[@TheKiloG69]

Nicely Done, I have had that happen to me before on my Elcamino it burned up the ing. module inside the cap, But its not fuel injected so u have lots more stuff to deal with. look forward to the fix.

[@wyattoneable]

Hopefully today. Your up early. Are you still in NH?

[@TheKiloG69]

Yes I will be here until next Tuesday as I am working on body work & painting a old Right Hand drive Toyota Land cruiser Diesel rig. Got to be home on Sat beginning of labor day weekend ,I have 4 interested people waiting for my return to see my Home I hope to sell it when I get Back we will see.

[@wyattoneable]

I hope the property sells so you can get started on your next adventure.

[@stuzman52]

Looks like your diagnostics is correct Wyatt. Hopefully, she'll be running again for you tomorrow.

[@wyattoneable]

Me too brother. You never know how much you miss something until it's gone and although the truck has only been down for 3 days, we miss it. Thanks for the comment. If I can get the part tomorrow there will be a part two tomorrow.

[@stuzman52]

You're right Wyatt about missing a vehicle when it goes down. And it's tough sometimes to keep them running especially when they get some age on them.

[@wyattoneable]

We really enjoy this truck but sometimes it get close to being sold! But then what? We'd want another one and they're expensive. I told my wife at least this truck is giving me some experience in diagnostics!

[@stuzman52]

I feel the same way. The last new vehicle I bought was back in '94. All the vehicles I've got are pretty old. Even when the 2000 LeSabre's tranny went out, I pulled it out and rebuilt it five years ago. I just hate to pay those expensive car payments and I don't think the new cars are worth it. If the truck is giving you good service, hold on to it. As you said, you'll get a lot of experience in diagnostics :)

[@M0D0C42]

You have to have your foot on the clutch, but since it's an automatic, I guess you'll need to install a clutch pedal first?Interesting to watch you go through the steps. Hope the new module does the fix... and hope the part store has it in stock. :)

[@wyattoneable]

Ted asks about you every time I see him. Go say hi one day but be prepared to stay for a while! He'll talk your ear off. Good to see you here again.

[@DriveShaftDrew]

step by step works while in sure you will get er done

[@wyattoneable]

I was impressed with the Haynes manual. It had good checks and the wiring diagram was correct. Thanks Drew.

[@MidwestMotoRider]

Cool stuff for sure. Funny when you think 1998 you don't think there is that much to them but sure enough...

[@wyattoneable]

That's what my wife said too. I wish it didn't have a computer but it is a sign of the times. No way around it unless you go way back. Thanks for the comment.

[@MidwestMotoRider]

Yea, sadly car companies are not stopping to ask the one important question "Just be cause we can does not mean we should" and so now we have cars that can be started over the internet, hum.. what could go wrong. :)

[@robinsonsauto]

bam there it is :) like a pro!!!! thats what i get for watching part 2 first lol great job wyatt

[@wyattoneable]

robinsonsauto This one was one of my first fixes using KZbin creators for help. I was happy with the results as you can see.

[@bluetunder40]

Nice One Bro!

[@wyattoneable]

Thanks man...let freedom ring!!

[@bluetunder40]

Ya baby lol

[@ImRamro]

Great diagnostic test. I really like that Snap-On tester. I do the same thing in checking my electrical problems but not as nice as you did, lol. The diagram you drew up was very clear and precise. Is there any reference info to check the module with an ohm reading or continuity?

[@wyattoneable]

None that I saw. I'm going to do one more check that was suggested by a tech I really respect but other than that, this better be a fix. I have the part now, just going to grab the camera and we'll watch together if this is it!

[@JamesLaceyJr]

In the dealership they always have a good part to check the system with and I always called them part changers. And that is what they are. Put a new part on, engine runs, charge you 5, hours diagnostics@ 80+per hour.

[@sookie1x65]

been nice if you'd brought the camera in for close shots of which pins to test. Same thing for your hand drawn step-by-step test procedures..very nice BTW

[@wyattoneable]

Yeah your right. I'll get better next time.

[@carolinamanjr1385]

I know on older vehicles you can burn the coil up with the key in the on position too long. Looks like the same thing happened here.

[@wyattoneable]

That's right. If the points were closed you would burn them up. I hope the ignition module does the trick. Thanks for watching all the way from the Carolinas!

[@carolinamanjr1385]

Not back home yet. but hope to be soon, I'm stuck in Okie Land

[@owendoughertyjr4773]

Omfg 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Thank you thank you fucking thank you

[@wyattoneable]

I'm glad this helped.

[@anthonychermesino2533]

my 2000 express van is having this same exact problem I have replaced everything including the ICM 4 times and the coil 3 times and the computer to no avail

[@wyattoneable]

It sounds like you need to start checking components for powers and grounds. A possible wire issue?

[@anthonychermesino2533]

I still have no spark I did then when the van warms up some reason I lose it that was last week now I have no spark at all but it cranks but I have fuel. I've done all the wire checks you have and i cant seem to find anything wrong my next direction is to look for a broken wire that's all I can think of now that might be causing this problem

[@anthonychermesino2533]

its all very frustrating for me i have checked all the basics i know i have good compression too. I'm good at this stuff so im irritated i cant fix this i still feel like i'm missing something so simple and silly

[@wyattoneable]

@@anthonychermesino2533 I worked on a 2006 Dodge truck for 18 hours (in two days) to find a crank, no start. It is very frustrating I agree. A broken wire is my best guess too. Good luck. I guess there is always the option of towing to a good shop.

[@anthonychermesino2533]

@@wyattoneable it turns out it was a broken wire just as i guessed it was burnt through and stopped the crank signal.

[@rchopp]

Well looks like you're narrowing it down, I had one of my older 96 - 98 can't remember which, acted kind of like that and on mine the spring contact on the rotor cap had a hole burned right through it Hope you get it fixed let us know.

[@wyattoneable]

Visual inspections are still important for sure. I changed my cap and rotor only because I had the old ones off anyway for preventative maintenance but I started to think if this module isn't the problem I need to see if that distributor is turning. We'll see what happens. Thanks for the comment. How's retirement treating you?

[@rchopp]

It's great only wished I would have done it sooner..lol

[@JamesLaceyJr]

But Wyatt you are doing what you have to do to keep SOME of your dough.

[@wyattoneable]

Yep, I try!

[@PopsQuest]

You need some dynamite, a left handed smoke shifter and a couple sky hooks, and that job would be done in 2 shakes!!!

[@wyattoneable]

I've spent so much money on this truck I have no choice but to keep it!

[@ziggassedup]

8 out of 10 times I've found the module to be the issue on older HEI/PCM controlled units with no spark..Just sayin'

[@wyattoneable]

It's looking that way for me too. We'll know in a few hours...video will come out tonight or tomorrow with the fix or fail. Thanks for the comment Zig.

[@luckstar1231]

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