Why a 1.25" Grid is Better than 1" Grid on Dungeon Tiles for Dungeons & Dragons

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Wyloch's Armory

Wyloch's Armory

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@joelhicks5162
@joelhicks5162 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video (I was referred to this channel from Eric's Hobby Workshop), but I want to commend you for excellently laid out argument and effective and straightforward visuals.
@bootnab
@bootnab 9 жыл бұрын
Like the straightforward presentation. Really clean production and the extra effort with the diagrams and such is greatly appreciated.
@ithinkofdemons
@ithinkofdemons 6 жыл бұрын
I know it's an old video, but I'm just getting interested in the craft. At 37, I appreciate a very straightforward approach, as do most, I'm sure. I've watched your 0095 video and plan to start building some of my own cardboardLock tiles very soon! You're an inspiration and I wish you the best fortune as I continue to learn! Thanks for sharing!
@ReliantLion
@ReliantLion 9 жыл бұрын
I think the 1" hallway mentioned at the end could be solved easily enough by making the tile be the same size as the others, but put the hallway smack dab in the middle of the tile. It will be offset, but is shouldn't be to big of a leap. The extra area could just be painted black or any other color you might use as 'negative' space. Great ideas all around.
@torymiddlebrooks
@torymiddlebrooks 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Baby Wyloch, little did you know what this would be the start of. Bless you.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 4 жыл бұрын
Truly.
@SgtMaj22
@SgtMaj22 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer this for another reason as well. Buildings and terrain built to 1:48 scale seem more appropriate than 1:60th scale. Love the concept.
@SaiceShoop
@SaiceShoop 6 жыл бұрын
I have to say this got me back into doing minis and is a great system.
@Regey75
@Regey75 8 жыл бұрын
i like it DM Scotty and The DMG do Ungirded tiles so this is a welcomed addition to the homemade dungeon tiles series on KZbin. I also really like the way you do minis only problem I've had with that so fare is finding the right picture that i need. good job and keep it up!
@tomyoung9834
@tomyoung9834 9 жыл бұрын
this is great on a lot of levels. minis fit better on a grid like this, and low walls also really enhance playability. can't wait to whip some of these up and try them out!
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
Tom Young Eager to see your results.
@berniceofbernicia4784
@berniceofbernicia4784 5 жыл бұрын
fyi, lego blocks are 1.25inches approx for 4 pips, meaning your tiles are also compatible with lego. My builds are done to this formula as well so that my tearrain fits generally with lego or can use lego in its structure for modularity especially.
@cerethpainting6777
@cerethpainting6777 8 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff. I used a lot of your ideas on my own tiles. Slightly different construction method. Thanks for the like on the pro boards. Having someone like you take the time to check out my stuff is huge to me! Now, if I could only find a gaming group to play on them...sob lol
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@SidewaysGts
@SidewaysGts 9 жыл бұрын
A like button for you. The route ive gone for my tiles is to simple always works in powers of 3. 3x3, 6x6, 9x9, 3x6, 3x9, etc. "Walls" are then constructed half an inch thick. This way even on my 3x3/6/9 "hallway" tiles, theres a solid 2" of space between the walls, for larger creatures to get through. When I grid up a map, each grid box represents one 3x3 tile. This way all my maps line up super easy. I also bounce back and forth between using grids, and just measuring (Have a small collection of "distance" sticks) Looking forward to more videos from you :)
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
SidewaysGts Actually, for a while I did the exact same thing :-)
@introneurotic
@introneurotic 8 жыл бұрын
Well done with this. Great video and great argument for the construction design. I'm giving my players of my TT game in-game bonuses they can use if they help me construct all the 1.25 squares I need. We've made enough to construct about four square game tiles so far. Keep the videos coming!
@jameshabermehl3902
@jameshabermehl3902 9 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. on. target. I reached the same conclusion even just with using battlemats way back when figure companies started creeping in with their 28mm and 30mm figures, and definitely once D&D3.0 imposed the now-industry-standard 1" = 5ft scale onto basically all D&D products. Too cramped. Our group is slightly experimenting and testing out the possible use of dungeon tiles, and we have also concluded that 1.25" seems to be the way to go. We're still debating the overall tile width and wall placement for the various reasons you list for both alternatives.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike!
@ollyp-smith7058
@ollyp-smith7058 8 жыл бұрын
This is great. I've been encountering the same issue in designing my own version. I too came up with this as a solution. I am designing a solution using walls of various shapes & sizes, on the sides of 2" x 2" bases. This works a treat except for shared walls under certain circumstances, where I need to employ odd sized floor sections. Still working on it.
@circlingoverland4364
@circlingoverland4364 7 жыл бұрын
I like this idea and will likely be using your methods for my future crafting endeavors. You addressed one situation in which it breaks down is the narrow 5' hallway. This can be solved by a special 1.25xN wall-less tile which is understood to have walls. There is also an issue on the other end of the size spectrum. You showed medium and large bases in your demo. A 3x3 huge base should also work fine, but a gargantuan base is 4x4 and on your tile system that would be a full inch short. A 5x5 colossal base would be "gargantuan" on your board. Granted these two size categories are far rarer in use so it's not a common problem; would you recommend simply re-basing larger minis to fit the grid or some other method to address the "error" in scale?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 7 жыл бұрын
As for larger bases, you nailed it: use case is so rare that I just don't address it. As for single-space corridors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIvdeYVseMuCjJI&
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 7 жыл бұрын
And thanks for watching!
@jacobhope6164
@jacobhope6164 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I should've started with #001. Genius since inception!
@learntoomuch
@learntoomuch 9 жыл бұрын
You have earned me as a youtube follower. Thank you sir
@phalenanjel1506
@phalenanjel1506 9 жыл бұрын
Ahhh......a Tiger's fan. That's a point in your favor. Time to check out all of your videos.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
Dig it.
@phalenanjel1506
@phalenanjel1506 9 жыл бұрын
Have you considered using removable walls ? Example: Run a game on a mat (2x3ft) that is textured to the area (stone, underground cavern, grasslands, sand, etc....) and lay down walls, doors and such using the carboard cutout designs you've mentioned (width) and place along the space as you go. Granted, this may not lend exactly to the gridsystem in large display of maps (as you've indicated with Undermountain example) but it works for single room and extensions where shared walls are that big of an issue. This allows me to reuse walls/doors as each space requires. Just curious to hear your thoughts on that. I'm looking forward to watching your videos throughout my free time this week. Thanks for your contribution.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
+Phalen Anjel You sure could do that - as long as the squares are 1.25" and the wall pieces are 1/4" wide, the math works the same. But I just really like the tactile feel of tiles, so that's what I build. I like that I can look at a square on the map and know that's a single tile, just go to the rack and pull it out.
@samtheskoolie
@samtheskoolie 7 ай бұрын
Something else to consider: often minis have props or weapons that stick out beyond the base. And it's impossible to place 2 minis next to one another when this happens. One always stands crooked.
@MikeMushovic
@MikeMushovic 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! 1.25" works. We've been using that for years in our games
@oucker
@oucker 9 жыл бұрын
Great! I am recommending your channel to all my friends.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
Oucker Much appreciated my friend!
@InterruptingOctopus
@InterruptingOctopus Жыл бұрын
frankly i think if you really push the thinness of the wall to 1/8th of an inch, you potentially have the dimensions to allow 1x1 hallways
@DebbieBuckland
@DebbieBuckland 6 жыл бұрын
I am starting to understand the system properly now... thanks
@thewiseguywithaj4953
@thewiseguywithaj4953 6 жыл бұрын
Hi love the vids. Do u have a video on how you organize your tiles?
@ChyarasKiss
@ChyarasKiss 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not really a player but a Pathfinder Widow :D Husby is an old school DnD player, who finally go fed up with the system and is now totally Pathfinder. *After 12yrs, i guess i'm supposed to know what that means.. nahhh* I want to build him tiles for christmas, hoping i can pull it off! Any tips and guides would be awesome!
@williambuchanan2115
@williambuchanan2115 9 жыл бұрын
+Liese Haley Well, DMScotty's channel kinda started this whole movement. And then, theDMGinfo is an excellent channel. But if you want to mimic Dwarven Forge products, my channel should help. Just watch the episodes in sequence to learn the techniques. First five episodes should be enough to get you going with a basic tile set. Post any specific hard spots you have!
@ChyarasKiss
@ChyarasKiss 9 жыл бұрын
+William Buchanan Thank you! I did find both of those channels first. But for some reason this one seems 'easier'. I will post when I make them. *crossing fingers*
@ChyarasKiss
@ChyarasKiss 9 жыл бұрын
+William Buchanan do you talk about what is needed in a 'Basic Set'? .. on vid 004 now.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
+Liese Haley By that, I meant a basic dungeon tile design. Later in the series, we cover other kinds, like sewers, taverns, castles, etc. The first few episodes talk about an all-purpose looking dungeon tile. As for HOW MANY? The following will provide enough tiles to built the dungeon in episode 017: 24 single-wall, 16 corner, 8 hallway, 8 dead-end, 16 field, 8 curved, and 8 slanted.
@ChyarasKiss
@ChyarasKiss 9 жыл бұрын
I'm in love! Heading to the store tomorrow. Do you offer PDF's of Directions?
@chiefgully9353
@chiefgully9353 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Just wanted to say this is an awesome set up and you do great videos, DM Scotty and Luke apps along with you are my 3 go to streamers. In fact I will be pushing a build based of the things I learned from you. Thanks for all the work and I know this vid is old but Ill be using it in a stream tonight demonstrating the idea and why I will be using it in the builds I do. (Links and Directions will be distributed for your you tube channel)
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome man, thanks! Yeah it is old, I cringe when I watch it. Episode 095 is the spiritual successor to it.
@earlteagrey
@earlteagrey 9 жыл бұрын
Great vids! I used about the same measurements for my B2 Keep on the Borderlands build..
@bigmiller19
@bigmiller19 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good vids. I have watched them all - at least twice. I have a question: what is the ratio of corners, to straight tiles, to field tiles to 1 wall tiles? How many of each do you craft out of let's day 100 tiles?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
+bigmiller19 Thanks for your viewership! This question comes up a lot. But I believe there isn't a standard answer. You might design dungeons very differently than me. Here is what I do: design my next dungeon. Build ONLY the tiles I need to make that dungeon. Run it. Design my next dungeon. Build ONLY the missing tiles missing. Run it. Continue like this...after three or four adventures you will find you no longer need to make any tiles because you have enough for anything you are likely to design.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
+bigmiller19 If you want to build the Vault of Iptiz, I would recommend the following: 8 Dead End, 8 Hallway, 16 Corners, 16 Field, 8 Rounded, 8 Slanted, 24 Single-Wall, and 4 Acid. You can download that free module from Episode 017. drive.google.com/file/d/0B6DUFiaF6EbpdVU4Q0xob0RIQVk/view
@bigmiller19
@bigmiller19 9 жыл бұрын
thank you much! this gives me a good start.
@detroitviking
@detroitviking 8 жыл бұрын
Wyloch. do you have a webpage with dimensions for all of your tiles?
@GrgThCt
@GrgThCt 4 жыл бұрын
We miss you wyloch
@brandonstone2754
@brandonstone2754 Жыл бұрын
Bit late to the party but wouldn't the walls for 1 square hallways just be on the room opposite? And If there's no room then have walls on the outside?
@ericsonguzzle861
@ericsonguzzle861 3 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I had seen this before I started building castle Ravenloft 🤣
@philipschorr5145
@philipschorr5145 2 жыл бұрын
There's also one other hidden benefit to 1.25" squares. Mini overhang is far less of a problem.
@thenovicedm7966
@thenovicedm7966 8 жыл бұрын
I'm new to your channel (I think) and will consume your videos this week. I'm a DM Scotty disciple but I enjoy seeing everyone's work & methods. Question ? Where do you get your paper minis from ? Artwork is solid and I'd like to hear/see how you create them.....hopefully it's in a video already and I'll get your tips in the next couple of days. If not....how/where do you acquire/print these minis ? It's a great cost saving method....and I'm all for simplicity.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIi6pmyErp2WjZo
@Loem28
@Loem28 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Go Tigers!
@t.blakee2806
@t.blakee2806 3 жыл бұрын
Great content! I'm with you
@kristophercain9734
@kristophercain9734 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same problem I have when I try to reproduce dungeons in minecraft (it helps me to visualize the space better.) It's impossible to create a 1:1 copy of the dungeon, because of the thickness of the walls.
@brianbays867
@brianbays867 18 күн бұрын
What happened to #02-04? Those were the tile vids right?
@geeksoftherealm4716
@geeksoftherealm4716 5 жыл бұрын
Love all these videos and thank you for helping with my D&D games with all the crafting I have done that's been inspired by you thank you
@StrongholdCrafterKev
@StrongholdCrafterKev 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting approach to dungeon grid layouts. I have taken ideas from Dm Scotty's and DMG's videos as well as others. I do like your modular setup, however I like the idea of shared walls for simplicity of construction.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
It's helpful for old school maps.
@oluwaseunakinbode3970
@oluwaseunakinbode3970 6 жыл бұрын
Stronghold Crafter Kev 7
@CrapE_DM
@CrapE_DM 7 жыл бұрын
You missed a downside: As creatures get larger, the diffference in base size starts to show itself more and more. A 5x5 creature will actually only take up 4x4 on your grid, and 4x4 creatures will start to look like it should maybe only be in a 3x3, except that that it sticksover the edges by a quarter inch. These cases are rare and can be solved by putting an adjusted cardboard circle under the mini that more closely matches the size needed to fill the space.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 7 жыл бұрын
All true. I don't think I've ever used a mini with a more than 3" base.
@stuartsmith6823
@stuartsmith6823 5 ай бұрын
I agree everything seems to work out when .25 inch equals 1 foot. The .2 inch = 1 foot is too small and then the scale is off doors are too small tiles are too small. The whole system falls over. Yes you do lose out on .25 of your gaming table. But I would rather have working system where I can have a character go through a door rather than magically jumping walls to fit my scale.
@genmasaotome3503
@genmasaotome3503 8 жыл бұрын
I think color coding the lines for walls.. if no physical walls is really going to be there... Red for full wall and Blue for half wall or something... and green for doorways. In yours where you are actually have walls.. :) yours will be the best.
@earlteagrey
@earlteagrey 9 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC paper mini's BTW.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Covering then in a near future episode.
@TheDMsTavern
@TheDMsTavern 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome system, Wyloch. I'll try it out !
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
+YourLocalDM Thanks for watching! By the way if you want to try it out without the tediousness of crafting, and you have a 3D printer, hang on for just a few days......... ;-)
@Halloweenville
@Halloweenville 9 жыл бұрын
Nice I really Enjoyed the Visuals! Thanks For Sharing!
@PeteTheDane
@PeteTheDane 6 жыл бұрын
i like the idear with the 1.25" tiles since the walls don't push the minis onto another tile.. but what if you have a tile with parallel walls (one on each side along the hallway)? btw, found your channel today, and after seing this vid, i subscribed.. great vid!! 👍
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 6 жыл бұрын
For a standard 10' wide hallway, it works the same. Maybe you are referring to a single-space hallway? If so, I simply exclude walls. See here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIvdeYVseMuCjJI
@davethiessen3372
@davethiessen3372 9 жыл бұрын
Where did he get the music for all his vids? Very good vids by the way
@appalachiantemptations9256
@appalachiantemptations9256 6 жыл бұрын
i love to play dnd but i love warhammer alot too so we built our dungeons with out grids and we use a measuring tape to move and so far we havent had any problems ,,we did have to make templates for flame weapons and aoe's
@Christina00100
@Christina00100 8 жыл бұрын
I'm totally in love with your stuff! I've started making my own set. My hands will be able to Hulk smash anything after cutting out all the chipboard tiles. Heheheh. How many of each type of tile would you recommend as a good starting number? Thanks for all the hard work!
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I recommend 16 single-wall, 8 corners, 6 field, and 6 hallways. Plus 4 curver corner and 4 slanted.
@Christina00100
@Christina00100 8 жыл бұрын
You're awesome thank you!
@raroo296
@raroo296 4 жыл бұрын
Whyloch how many of the tiles should one make without going over board for instance, originally how many did you make?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoqvnaqQe8SGm68
@raroo296
@raroo296 4 жыл бұрын
@@WylochsArmory thanks alot wyloch!
@tommyd2235
@tommyd2235 7 жыл бұрын
Ok I've just watched a few of your videos ant then got to the first one. If it's not too personal, what type of work do you do for a living? Engineering maybe? Drafting?
@Pompo5
@Pompo5 8 жыл бұрын
Haha, nice to see an older version of the vault of iptiz map before you made the video. If i may ask, what do you use to draw out these maps?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Photoshop. In a future episode I will be showing how I do it.
@TheZenGM
@TheZenGM 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looking forward to lots more.
@herrdoktorprofessoreldritc3416
@herrdoktorprofessoreldritc3416 7 жыл бұрын
I've made my first set and passed it on to the kids (they mix it with their Legos :) ). I'm going to make another set, but with taller walls (Dwarven Forge style). Have you tried this? What are the potential problems, aside from moving away from DM Scotty's 2.5 model?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 7 жыл бұрын
Herr Doktor Professor Eldritch Jaeger None that I can think of besides the playability problems. Oh, and storage.
@herrdoktorprofessoreldritc3416
@herrdoktorprofessoreldritc3416 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@geeksoftherealm4716
@geeksoftherealm4716 5 жыл бұрын
I have got your true tile system printed out and I think it's awesome cheers
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!!
@geeksoftherealm4716
@geeksoftherealm4716 5 жыл бұрын
@@WylochsArmory your welcome buddy keep them coming
@-4rchibald
@-4rchibald 4 жыл бұрын
BMC sent me and I’m glad about it.
@C_Duffy13
@C_Duffy13 8 жыл бұрын
Love the idea, but how well doesa it match with other stuff thats based on 1" such as dwavern forge and battlemats?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
+Cameron Duffy It will not match at all...which really is the entire point. ;-)
@C_Duffy13
@C_Duffy13 8 жыл бұрын
+Wyloch's Crafting Vids that's all that puts me off :( my players have some and would be nice to match t all up
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, understandable. Keep in mind that this setup solves a very, very nitpicky problem. One which many people not even consider to be a "problem."
@C_Duffy13
@C_Duffy13 8 жыл бұрын
+Wyloch's Crafting Vids totally understand! Don't get me wrong I love the idea. Just doesn't quite fit my needs
@gsgidney
@gsgidney 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings Wyloch! Hey bud, do you still use the same measurements when making your basic dungeon tiles? Or, are they a standard 2.5 x 2.5 inch? Or, have you found that it really doesn't matter if you maintain the same scale throughout all your builds?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 5 жыл бұрын
Yo! Not sure what you are asking.... All of my tiles are 2.5 x 2.5, so there is no "still" - they've always been that way.
@gsgidney
@gsgidney 5 жыл бұрын
@@WylochsArmory I didn't know of you had made another video with different measurements, is all. So, you still have to account for the chipboard walls, thus following your tutorial on making the base cardboard 1=16th less on a walled side... I guess i should just hush up, and watch your stuff again as a refresher...lol
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 5 жыл бұрын
@@gsgidney Oh I see, you mean the foundations. Yes the foundation of the tile varies depending on what you're doing, what construction methods. In hindsight I overcomplicated things a bit.
@warderbrad
@warderbrad 8 жыл бұрын
I am new to using tiles, in the past I just used a mat with wet erase markers. I sometimes like to have 5' hallways, how is the best way to represent those with this system?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
See episode 034.
@warderbrad
@warderbrad 8 жыл бұрын
I just watched the video and I understand. I came to this video set from your 3d printing files on DriveThroughRPG. Will the files include the things needed to make 5' wide sections? Or would I need to modify them or something?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking us out. We have lots of plans for future TrueTiles supplements, and we will certainly look at doing some single-wide segments.
@tradtke101
@tradtke101 9 ай бұрын
Didn't hear you address why walls that take up whole squares isn't an option?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 ай бұрын
Then you can't recreate maps that have shared walls.
@tradtke101
@tradtke101 6 ай бұрын
​@@WylochsArmory hmm yeah I was thinking from the perspective of a gm making my own maps. You could have thin interior walls that go in slots between tiles, but that kinda ruins the simplicity of it. I guess there's really no perfect solution and it depends on the maps you work from and different priorities.
@Journey1369
@Journey1369 7 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your crafting materials? I'm finding it difficult to find the double corrugated cardboard.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 7 жыл бұрын
Go to Office Max, Staples, etc. and look for those tri-fold project display boards, like a kid would use for a science project. They are usually made of double corrugated cardboard. Chipboard here: amzn.to/2pq0JhU
@Journey1369
@Journey1369 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos have inspired me to try this out! What starting items/materials do you suggest? I have a crafting straight edge, cutting mat, the double corrugated cardboard, and some foam board. Any particular item suggestions would be great! Thanks!
@gregamann2327
@gregamann2327 8 жыл бұрын
OK. You have me thinkin'...
@pooglies125
@pooglies125 5 жыл бұрын
"I hope to earn you as a youtube follow..." Job succeeded my good man!
@Spacecoast1000
@Spacecoast1000 9 жыл бұрын
That little machine is fun :]
@ratrod67
@ratrod67 6 жыл бұрын
If only a company that makes tiles for purchase would make them allowing for walls with full inch squares.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 6 жыл бұрын
Until that day comes, make your own!
@duranjoshua80
@duranjoshua80 9 жыл бұрын
Great work Wyloch! Consider me subscribed.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 9 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Duran Thanks!
@overkill4980
@overkill4980 8 жыл бұрын
+Wyloch's Crafting Vids i like hot dogs
@13thBear
@13thBear 9 жыл бұрын
You'd get a bigger share of subs if ya share the beer with yer buds, doncha think? Crafting is mighty thirsty work as is watching crafting vids. Just a suggestion. Why...I'm thirsty already after watching this very first vid of your's!
@lukesgametime89
@lukesgametime89 7 жыл бұрын
Love your work!
@sickpsycho2012
@sickpsycho2012 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of doing tiles out of 1/4 inch plywood?
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but not for this channel. This channel is about easy accessible crafting techniques for all.
@bernatkun8069
@bernatkun8069 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much!
@kurtkyre
@kurtkyre 8 жыл бұрын
I have some halls with walls, and some without, in order to simulate shared walls.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Ah, but you are unable to place a miniature next to the wall, right?
@kurtkyre
@kurtkyre 8 жыл бұрын
Sure I can=) I make mine using the three or more squares wide, so there is some line straddling on occasion (fudge), but you just have me an idea of a "double hall" with its own shared wall...
@kurtkyre
@kurtkyre 8 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the 1.25 grid, but I have invested heavily in Hirst molds. So...
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly, that requires you to deviate from the original map and introduce error. For many people, this error is not a big deal, which is fine. For obsessive folks like me, it is :-) Thx for watching!
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, definitely not worth switching over if you're already invested in something else.
@BrushQuill
@BrushQuill 4 жыл бұрын
Doing a bit of archive diving. Think your argument makes a lot of sense.
@xxbrkdwnxx
@xxbrkdwnxx 3 жыл бұрын
Warlock tiles by wizkids solved the wall issue while maintaining the 1 inch standard.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 3 жыл бұрын
Alas, no they did not. Watch again. Or for a more modern explanation than this old video, try this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIbIlIp9ZrxgqdU
@xxbrkdwnxx
@xxbrkdwnxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@WylochsArmory I'm not sure where you're mentioning the warlock tiles in there. But I have some and you can in fact recreate dungeon maps pretty accurately with them.. because they use a very thin interior wall that slips between tiles instead of a half inch space that takes up squares (like Dwarven forge) Sure the small metal piece that slips in between tiles may be adding a small amount of space (like a 32nd of an inch) but it's pretty negligible.
@xxbrkdwnxx
@xxbrkdwnxx 3 жыл бұрын
I only mention it because I have recreated this system myself and it could be helpful to some with limited table space like you mentioned with your true tiles.
@andrewkreinbrink7023
@andrewkreinbrink7023 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxbrkdwnxx It looks like the WizKids interior walls don't eat up much space and it does seem like a work around but unless they enlarged their grid, that space is still coming from somewhere. It also forces you to use interior vs exterior walls rather than just plain old walls as Wyloch's system does.
@xxbrkdwnxx
@xxbrkdwnxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewkreinbrink7023 it does take up some space but it's honestly negligible. Having used them (as well as my own hand crafted version) for a few sessions thry work great. Interior walls should be thinner than exterior anyway if we're talking like castles and dungeons. I do like the thought behind wylochs system and it works great, I just prefer to keep the 1 inch standard. Then everything works together!
@jeffrichards5106
@jeffrichards5106 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea! thanks
@heyo49
@heyo49 8 жыл бұрын
Bigger squares is a nice idea but I don't follow your logic of not being able to put two ten foot hallways into a twenty foot room. You can do that in real life either. Reminds me when a architect couldn't understand that we could not put an eight inch pipe in a wall 7 5/8" thick. I get that it makes record keeping simpler for mapping, but I don't see it being much of an issue. But I enjoy the videos.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Dont think of it as two ten foot hallways. Think of it as two hallways which are each two game spaces wide. For further illustration, watch the TrueTiles promo video.
@Spacecoast1000
@Spacecoast1000 9 жыл бұрын
Hot glue and BEer!! sub'd my man!
@lostaesthetic2032
@lostaesthetic2032 8 жыл бұрын
As far as the 2 hallways go, on the map there's 3 walls represented , those two tiles you keep trying put together to replicate it on a battle map have 4 walls. So you need to make side by side hallway tiles with 3 walls instead of 4 walls. WIth Hurtz this is easy solved, some DF tiles have detachable walls but not all. Lastly I like to note the dire need for rpg companies to start consulting architects with their map designs, with their paper thin walls. Any wargamer to can tell ya game world scale and gaming pieces never match up 100% such is life.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
+Lost Aesthetic Incorrect. Try watching again. If you only use three walls, you will create a 1/2" offset in the grid, which fails to meet the objectives.
@lostaesthetic2032
@lostaesthetic2032 8 жыл бұрын
No that's not what I was getting at I understood it would still be off.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Oh ok. So then it's clear how the 1.25" solves it? (I am working a redux version of this video right now, so if anything is unclear, feedback is appreciated)
@lostaesthetic2032
@lostaesthetic2032 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly didn't pay any attention to the details of the 1.25 grid because it didn't pertain to my table. I'll use a grid if it's marked out on a battle map already but for the most part I play grid free, using rulers, tape measures and string. If I really need a grid I use a grid shadow stencil of my own invention. You can check that out on my gaming channel blackbarnz it's simple you could make one in a jiff. Sorry don't have any real feedback for ya other then I enjoy your channel and keep at it.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
I understand, thanks for your viewership!
@SpaceNavy90
@SpaceNavy90 8 жыл бұрын
Why not just make the walls 1/4" and place them on the outside. Accomplishes literally the same thing.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 8 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. If you do that, you will create a 1/4" offset in the grid. This error will propagate throughout the rest of the map.
@waynedaly100
@waynedaly100 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@Viernes13punto5
@Viernes13punto5 6 жыл бұрын
so you are just adding the walls to the outside of the tile like when you said it creates issues? don't get me wrong I love your videos, have crafted some stuff following your advice to the letter, but it seems to me that your solution is also the solution that you said doesn't work. what I'm trying to say makes much more sense in my head before I put it in english.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 6 жыл бұрын
No; try watching again, at 5:15. Or, I have a much better 3D illustration of the concept here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIbIlIp9ZrxgqdU
@GrumblingGrognard
@GrumblingGrognard 9 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! ...but I do *hate* paper miniatures. Paint some lead to go with that great setup for God's sake! :-)
@nicpus6891
@nicpus6891 7 жыл бұрын
i subbed
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 7 жыл бұрын
thx!
@DyrianLightbringer
@DyrianLightbringer 4 жыл бұрын
The reason you SHOULD NOT use 1.25" grids: Every square on the grid is adding an extra .25". So, a 2x2 is 2.5x2.5, a 3x3 is 3.75x3.75, but a 4x4 is really a 5x5, and now your gargantuan mini no longer fits on the grid, it will have this big border of empty space around it, and if you try to use a colossal mini, which is 5x5, it will only take up 4x4 on the grid.
@WylochsArmory
@WylochsArmory 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right......how many gargantuan minis do you use though, ever?
@DyrianLightbringer
@DyrianLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@WylochsArmory Personally, not a lot. I do enjoy a good big monster fight in my games, though, and I mostly wanted to point out the flaw for people who do want to run higher-level games with big monsters.
@jeremiahbachmann3901
@jeremiahbachmann3901 5 жыл бұрын
Put your hands up for Detroit.
@ollyp-smith7058
@ollyp-smith7058 8 жыл бұрын
This is great. I've been encountering the same issue in designing my own version. I too came up with this as a solution. I am designing a solution using walls of various shapes & sizes, on the sides of 2" x 2" bases. This works a treat except for shared walls under certain circumstances, where I need to employ odd sized floor sections. Still working on it.
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