X-Men '97 is the Best Thing Since No Way Home! | Absolutely Marvel & DC

[@ethankillion786]

Ross: This place can stop the Hulk, this mutant ain't shit. Rogue: BET

[@99jmaster]

20:56 to be fair Jennifer Hale has played Jean Grey in a lot of things especially video games so I could see why they just brought her in since it's like another Tuesday for her

[@Syncratci]

Honestly, even if she hadn't played Jean before, bringing in Jennifer Hale for a role is always a no-brainer.

[@dionysisnance4204]

I never thought cyclops was cool until I watched this series

[@DanV900]

Read Whedon’s and Cassaday’s Astonishing X-Men which is great!

[@zoomy7535]

Same here my only reference was the X-Men movies

[@Bananahammock681]

I'd go even further back, this is the most well received, presented and put together thing since maybe Winter Soldier, which I still say holds up as a great standalone flick. This show is everything the live action shows aren't (not to say they're bad, but they pale to me comparatively) its dripping with comic goodness, I love it.

[@matthewwithanm]

Great episode!

[@panduh_go_crazy-.-9957]

I’m not sure if the passage of time is explicit in the show so maybe it’s been longer for forge to develop those feelings

[@Popcultureguy3000]

I think every episode might be a month apart, like the current Ultimate Marvel reboot and the original New Universe titles.

[@Cybernautz]

Forge showed up in the original so I just thought she at least knew of him

[@macfine]

I was a little put off by Rogues voice in the beginning...but by bright eyes she won me back

[@Cybernautz]

nah by Remember It she won me back

[@JusRaeDae]

... the best thing since Winter Solider/Infinity War.

[@jameskingman1227]

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, one of the greatest strengths of this show is that it just feels like it’s part of the Marvel universe. Cap did nothing and yet I found the crossover exciting!

[@dionysisnance4204]

Storm does has piccolo clothes beam

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

That is easily her most metro attack.

[@lazynerd3211]

storm came first

[@PirateJacques79]

Hey! 'Operation Zero Tolerance' was the story that got me into X-Men. And it had Carlos Pacheco on art. And Leinil Yu. AND Joe Mad! Go easy on it. It's good! (I think).

[@Popcultureguy3000]

Jim Lee had *_LONG_* departed the title before this story started, correct? I’m sure his comics aren’t *_too_* bad, but I’ll never forgive him and Bob “the alleged harasser” Harras for being a bunch of home wreckers and pushing out Claremont in the early 90’s.

[@rubbershark3833]

OZT is what got me to drop Marvel until the Ultimate Universe picked up speed. Those Wolverine issues of OZT are 🔥 though

[@popeye697]

​@rubbershark3833 it was literally one of the best post Claremont storyline before Morrison brought "E is for Extinction"

[@rubbershark3833]

@@popeye697 I definitely need to revisit it. I was 12; so my opinion was probably trash.

[@teelotus3326]

I’ll do one even better. It’s the best super hero thing PERIOD. This is the blueprint

[@liamhemstock2286]

I’ve never been an X Men fan but this show has made me love them. It’s truly incredible storytelling

[@alexgaray1216]

Rogue sent Hassan caps shield?!

[@Bananahammock681]

Hassan had the metal detector Cap forgot to bring. Never underestimate the power of a fanboy's need to be the ultimate nerd!

[@MCLegoboy]

I never really got the X-Men before. I decided to watch the original X-Men series before 97, and I'm so glad I did because of all the moments of context I better understand, but the show was mostly just okay to good with only a couple episodes of greatness (and they're all with Nightcrawler). But 97 makes me get it. It is the best. The characters, the action, the stories, it is all phenomenal.

[@jameskingman1227]

Oh I would love it if Christopher Daniel Barney’s came back in this show, even if it’s just to chat with Beast and Wolverine. Man I agree, Josh Keaton has such range, I can always recognise him in his early work, but he turns up in random things and I’m always blown away as I just can’t hear him in his acting, he’s so good and changing his voice to who he’s playing. I went back to listen to Cap again and I still can’t hear it, same with his Electro in the PS4 game.

[@jameskingman1227]

It’s really nice to watch two people discuss this show without complaining about every little thing. I mean I’ve even seen people complain about Storm hasn’t had enough story or screen time…

[@rubbershark3833]

If there has ever been a time for an Operation Zero Tolerance Back Issues, it's now

[@Hammerheadcomedy]

Thank you! For some reason I couldn't connect OZT to anything but now it makes sense... no one cared about OZT...

[@Fax1880]

Storm and Forge are like a month together, the show kinda made a mistake not making that clear, otherwise you would not get the Genosha news so late, Cyclops was talking to Maddy mentally for a month and she left on ep 3, Storm met Forge on ep 3, math haha.

[@jameskingman1227]

I do think Wolverine has been underused in this show, but I’m glad everyone else is getting spotlight. I feel it’s just the pendulum effect of the fact he’s had so much screen time that now he’s getting very little. Ironically though, this is the version I wanna see more of, not Hugh Jackman.

[@mathewsimoes2962]

I feel like they give everyone a moment to shine, so Wolverine’s moment will come. But because he’s done so much in the last 30 years in X-Men media it wasn’t (and shouldn’t be) a priority.

[@jameskingman1227]

@@mathewsimoes2962 and now after the latest episode he’s had one, so yeah, fair enough lol. I assumed he’d get one but was surprised that he hadn’t really had any action scenes for like 6 episodes.

[@DanV900]

My introduction to Bastion was in the video game, X-Men: The Next Dimension. I have never cared about Bastion in the comics, but I’m intrigued by him in the show where I know who the character is and he will definitely be better.

[@Legion31]

When I first started liking X-Men it was because of cool characters. But what kept me was the topics they touched and not everything was always clean cut. It felt ironically human even though the main characters are supposed to evoke a difference.

[@TheSpiderworks]

What I learned from X-Men 97 was the molar Twins from Invincible was right! if you're going to do cloning never reveal who's the Clone. Scott would have probably had a three-way if Beast never revealed who the original was😂😂

[@josephupchurch7138]

Yes, guys. Get the X-Men '97 people to do What If!

[@donemon14]

Speaking to the melodrama of X-men, in a different universe it would’ve blown up on theCW in place of the Arrowverse

[@spaztikenergy1485]

I agree about Wolverine, in my opinion his best stories were in his solo books, obviously.

[@Popcultureguy3000]

TBF Sal, I think Bastion was well utilized recently in X-Men: Blue by Cullen Bunn. Really plays up his hypocrisy and “Hal 9000” style self-contradictory machine logic.

[@jotaux3652]

I want to know how Cap made it out of the vortex and whether Redskull made it out too.

[@Bananahammock681]

Spider-man might be worth a watch for you.

[@jotaux3652]

@@Bananahammock681 I did watch it, Cap is trapped with Redskull in the vortex as of the end of that show.

[@kadegetslaid634]

Everyone was put back by madame web

[@popeye697]

​@@jotaux3652Maybe not after Secret Wars

[@jotaux3652]

@@popeye697 She put them back after secret wars

[@thomasjohnson1885]

“Best thing since no way home” So Guardians Vol 3 just stop existing?

[@macks1280]

Gotta be my favorite host combo

[@fishnewt1331]

1) Jean can also change her clothes the same way Storm can. I would argue it makes more sense because Jean’s telekinesis is manipulating matter. Storm’s doing it makes less sense to me, but it was apparently a thing in the comics as well. 2) Catherine Discher was the original Jean in the og series. She now plays Valerie Cooper in the current show. She sounds nowhere similar to how she used to. And I don’t think it’s Catherine putting on a character voice. I think it’s simply just age, which is why she is not playing Jean. 3) Jennifer Hale is a legend in general, but I especially love her as Jean. Marvel vs Capcom 3, Wolverine and the X-Men, Marvel Anime: X-Men, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 were all different takes of the same character done by Hale. I could literally do an entire essay for how much material Hale does in the different takes with Jean.

[@anthonyhudak9363]

I'm really hopeful that the success of this show will influence the return of other animated superhero series. Still crossing fingers for a season 6 of Teen titans

[@gibbnasta]

Gambit is my favorite, but we still have Beast!

[@Fax1880]

We cannot be asking to bring back Beau without knowing what he did, I know he is talented but the geek culture has this bad habit of praising people as Gods but as soon they do something bad they are devils, look at Whedon, Beau even deactivated his social media for a while and he has bad fame from The Witcher writer room as well, so he does not seem innocent, it would be good to have him involved but we cannot force them unless it was a stupid thing why he got fired.

[@hadeszero4526]

Could have been Maddie and Scott then Jean and Wolverine.

[@dominiqueodom3099]

Why is Benny never here for Xmen97 discussions? Its frustrating as hell to not hear is opinions on this Amazing love Letter to Xmen fans whove been done dirty by the Fox Adaptation and an amazing introduction to comic books fans who are just being introduced to the Xmen for the first time.

[@SauceMessiah]

kinda glad Sal can have an episode where he can get his thoughts out with out constant interruption

[@Bananahammock681]

He is busy reading One Piece, as GOD INTENDED! Finally at Wano after a year and change of reading

[@strife9878]

I will not stand for this wolverine slander

[@alfonzoc_Father_Misfit_Batman]

👍

[@_symbiotic_josh_6804]

23:21 did tara strong do something we don't know about or is that just a preference from hassan

[@Bananahammock681]

She jumped on the NFT train a while back, as far as I know. Other then that I am at a loss also.

[@CanopiedwithBowers]

Check her Wikipedia. Israel-Palestine conflict.

[@andrebrown4387]

Oh fuck what did Tara Strong do Oh. Ffs.

[@Ragnorok657]

So what no peggy carter?

[@lazynerd3211]

why would she show up?

[@Ragnorok657]

@@lazynerd3211 cause last we seen she was with the watcher.

[@Ragnorok657]

I thought they were takung the long way around

[@lazynerd3211]

@@Ragnorok657 this is not mcu related

[@Ragnorok657]

@@lazynerd3211 well thank god for that then.

[@MSGSDestiny]

Did Hassan just casually call Tara Strong a terrible person? Rude much.

[@WhatIsItAboutThem]

While the casual fan may not know, since 2018 Tara Strong has been attached to some not great situations. Recently she's been under fire as have many other celebrities due to their comments on the entire Israel Hamas situation. In general, she is the voice for many of our core memories but she is not Bob Ross or Mr Rogers infallible.

[@thomasjohnson1885]

Don’t be a terrible person then

[@MSGSDestiny]

@@WhatIsItAboutThem isn't Tara Strong Jewish?

[@matiasmendoza9274]

No Way Home has aged poorly after one viewing. I wouldn't consider it a benchmark or something to live up to. This series, like the original, is really fun and compelling even on repeated viewiengs

[@lazynerd3211]

Tara strong a horrible person? were that come from or did I miss somthing

[@malclmhexed5978]

Imma be real honest I’m not the biggest fan of Rouge even though I find her power’s dope and I totally get her affliction and all, I just did not like how she treated the whole gambit/magneto love triangle thing. Like this lady really danced with magneto (not too long ago breaking it off with gambit) in front of her ex, kisses magneto just to basically say “naw this ain’t it fam where gambit at ?” like sis you just kissed me tf lol. Again I get her affliction but her fickleness was kinda insufferable for me. Gambit’s a better man than me lol

[@willmackinnon9397]

No Way Home is a weird benchmark, because it's so lame.

[@creed8712]

It’s a good benchmark because it was the last time people were excited to see a marvel movie

[@lanalan4157]

​@@cybr1d6 I didn't watch the previous Spiderman series..but I still love no way home because the main story and focus remain on Tom Holland Spider-Man.Fell in love with his story

[@manuelvilar2242]

I also am underwhelmed by No Way Home. I accept that I am in the minority in that opinion. 3 Spiderman didn't get me as excited as everyone else seems to be.

[@CanopiedwithBowers]

@@creed8712 It was a big deal, yes, but it was also genuinely a good movie that wasn't a pure fan-service-fueled cash grab, as many feared it would be. The movie would have done big regardless, so I really appreciate the real character moments and narrative decisions made in service of Tom's Peter Parker. Therefore, it is a good benchmark. It didn't just make a lot of money; it was a phenomenon; it was the last MCU film that managed to carry within it something comparable to that peak Endgame-era flare.