Xbox FS2020: Advanced Autopilot Hints & Tips - Setting up a RNAV Approach!

[@glynnwestwood4751]

Came here for the explanation of y and z approaches promised in your follow up video to this for the NXi. "I don't know what they are" is not much of a payload fella! Great vid apart from that.

[@Huddison]

I sometimes like to give my viewers a chance to explain some of the more 'technical' aspects of the sim (check Aces Comment ;)

[@glynnwestwood4751]

@@Huddison Did that at the time, I had already posted the comment though. No offence intended, just that I was expecting it in the video. As I said... great tutorial, keep up the great work! :)

[@Huddison]

@@glynnwestwood4751 No worries Glynn and I'm rarely offended by comments there days ;)

[@jrarnold85]

Dude, bro, broski… thank you! One of the only channels addressing the use of m&kb with a controller on XBox. This has saved me from so much frustration while I wait for my wife to give me permission to grab the TM HOTAS setup…. And then wait a little longer for the pedals. But for now your channel has definitely helped out while I learn MSFS on Xbox X while using the m&kb with the controller. Again thanks and please keep up the content with the controller and m&kb

[@Huddison]

Great to hear Josh and I'll certainly keep the content coming.

[@AcesDwn1]

Excellent Video as usual! The difference between Z and Y approaches, is that there can be 2 or more different straight in approaches to the same runway. They'll typically have different minimums, altitude limits on approach, and different holding patterns on missed. But, since they are all for the same runway, a letter is added at the end, starting from "Z" and going backwards in the alphabet to "S". Example might be RNAV (GPS) 13L-Z and RNAV (RNP) 13L -Y Slightly different equipment needed in the aircraft, and subtle changes to altitudes and holding on missed etc... Also, Don't add flaps, until you're inside the white color on the right of the speed tape. The white zone indicates safe for flaps. LOL Hope that helps! :-)

[@Huddison]

Thanks Aces for the explanation between the Z & Y approaches (I was too lazy to look that up :D). Re flaps: I know about the white marker on the speed tape, but I've heard varying reports of what speeds are safe for the first stage of flaps etc - many (sim and real world pilots) will say under 100 knots is ok for the first stage; others like yourself (and actually many manuals relating to the C172), will say wait until the speed hits the white zone (or around 80 knots) of the speed ribbon. I go with my guts as after all, it is a Sim 😎😉

[@AcesDwn1]

@@Huddison So true! It is a sim.. And there is truth to varying reports. After all, the "Specs" are what the manual "Says" you can do, but you know it's conservative. So just outside the white zone "Should" be fine in reality. Sim is the perfect place to do it for sure! :-)

[@glynnwestwood4751]

HA! Should have read this before I commented about it! Bravo Sir!!!

[@wolfe1970]

Great video, now to watch it 20 times to absorb it all

[@Huddison]

😁

[@timharris7425]

After learning this it makes the sim a real joy to fly, thanks for sharing to everyone so they to can have a nice enjoyable experience, also if anyone wants to just depart from a airport and fly around the town and come back to the same airport and land, this rnav works for this to, just go to proc in the g1000 and follow the prompt select rnav arrival then activate, then the cdi will appear with the runway, then when I get up to altitude I switch to loc1 setup my altitude select autopilot, then I fly around with my heading, then when you want to land bring up the gps cdi to see where u are at in relation to the runway and then go to it, its alot of fun

[@Huddison]

Thanks Tim.

[@rafeharwood9667]

Talking about Twickenham stadium... I remember as a child, catching sticklebacks in the stream the other side of the sewage works, under the bridge next to the pub :D

[@Huddison]

Wow sounds similar to my fishing tales in the Manchester Canal. Irreplaceable memories eh ;)

[@robertmixon8866]

Thank you! That showed me when to engage the approach mode! I'm thrilled. Thank you very much for the help!

[@Huddison]

Glad it helped!

[@thelatman9397]

Thanks a lot for this, I have been self teaching the autopilot and had been using GPS mode, now I (sort of) know how to use RNAV and approach mode - Reesult.

[@Huddison]

Excellent - that's great to hear ;)

[@raywalsh5414]

Haven't tried an RNAV approach yet so found this interesting. I'm not instrument rated but I believe the glideslope/path should be intercepted from below. I would imagine that in the absence of an auto-throttle, some power should come off immediately the final descent starts and I noticed that you were very fast at that stage. Never knew where Twickenham was so learning something new everyday !

[@Huddison]

You are correct: the Glideslope/path should be intercepted from below - MSFS has a strange way of showing the interception currently, as it shows the Indicator diamond coming up from the bottom, rather than the top.

[@ianoppenheim7143]

Your videos are allowing me to learn so much. Thank you for the content!

[@Huddison]

That's fantastic; many thanks for the comment Ian!

[@greekdude1280]

thank you , something new every time Huddison nice.

[@Huddison]

You're welcome my friend :)

[@johnderperez]

Awesome video 😊 I can imagine the other pilots waiting on the taxiway for you to take off while you’re loading up the flight plan lol 😅

[@Huddison]

Lol, I think most just fly through other aircraft ;)

[@johnderperez]

@@Huddison hahah that makes sense :)

[@9albln]

Thanks so much for this tutorial. It is what I was looking for after learning ILS approaches !

[@Huddison]

Great to hear; thanks for the feedback.

[@jakew9887]

Great Video. Thanks

[@Huddison]

No worries Jake - more of this type to come ;)

[@leonardlakey7779]

Thanks. I think I saw what I om doing wrong on my instrument approaches. I have not bothered to set up "arrival" on the G1000, just "approach". No wonder the AP doesn't line me up with the right runway.

[@Huddison]

Hi Leonard, yes that would confuse the Autopilot to no end ;) I'm so impressed with the Xbox Version of MSFS: with a mouse you can pretty much do all the advanced autopilot features like RNAV/WNAV, as you can do with the PC version.

[@leonardlakey7779]

@@Huddison Just a PC player. MSFS in its various incarnations is the only game I have ever played except MYST. You old enough to remember MYST?

[@Huddison]

@@leonardlakey7779 I'm old enough to remember Space invaders first hitting the Arcades & the dawn of home computers/consoles (Pong days!) 😁

[@DiscoDave50]

Just watching the video and noticed at 21:05 a 747 nosedive into the ground on the right (above the MFD) 🤭

[@Huddison]

Just another ordinary day in MSFS ;)

[@DiscoDave50]

So true 😂

[@AlainJodoin]

Thanks for these instructive videos! Can you explain what's the difference between ILS and RNAV and why should we select one instead of the other?

[@Huddison]

Essentially: RNAV is typically GPS/satellite based, whilst ILS is entirely ground based. It's often down to availability: what is your aircraft equipped with and the airports themselves etc. Most (it seems) prefer to choose ILS if it is available to them.

[@AlainJodoin]

@@Huddison Got it, Thanks!

[@barneybarnes677]

Hi James great vid as always. I’m on the Xbox x and just cannot get the “pan” facility to function. Over the button, left click and hold, right click .....but on cursor on the screen any thoughts, cheers Barney.

[@Huddison]

Hi Barney, have you got the G1000 NXI mod installed? That might explain your difficulties. On a side note: I'll be installing and making a video on the mode myself soon.

[@barneybarnes677]

@@Huddison yes James, i have the nxi installed. Not the end of the world so thanks for the help.

[@williewall3162]

Try instead of pushing and releasing A to enter cursor, push and hold A then use joystick to pan with A held in

[@N0r8z]

The first height of 3000 then 2600 which was shown on that map which you circled, how do you know the heights if no map?

[@Huddison]

The flight plan on the right G1000, should hopefully/usually give some indication of what height you should be at for each way point.

[@N0r8z]

@@Huddison Top Man, keep up the good work 👍🏻

[@xspindrift8737]

Alright, more practice3 before tomorrow! Great stuff, now when the implement (VNAV) on Xbox flying RNAP arroaches will be a lot easier as the VNAV will automatically follow the changes in altitude for each waypoint. That, and I like the the G1000, now automatically loads the ILS freqs.

[@Huddison]

Indeed ;)

[@AlainJodoin]

I'm unable to add waypoints in my flight plans most of the time. Any suggestion to fix that? Thanks for your excellent videos and support!

[@Huddison]

This might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZWbi6uNlM-catE

[@fw190pilot7]

Finally got keyboard and mouse working, but cannot get description of what inputs are available when i hover over a knob or switch. Is there a setting somewhere?

[@Huddison]

Yes, from memory I think it's under general options at the bottom; I'll confirm when I get home.

[@Huddison]

Yes, General options/Accessibility - you'll find the options to set how the inputs behave as you hover over them. I have mine set to: 'Cockpit Interaction' = Legacy; 'Menu Tooltips' = off & 'Instrument Name Tooltips' = Instant.

[@fw190pilot7]

Many thanks for the info. I don't appear to have Cockpit Interaction as a menu item tho. Anyhow, it works with the Instrument Names Tooltips setting. My mouse - logitech - behaves erratically. Would a USB hub cause this?

[@Huddison]

@@fw190pilot7 Possibly - try it plugged directly into the PC and see how it behaves.

[@fw190pilot7]

I've given up on the mouse for a bit. I have sorted the rudder out thanks to one of your other videos. I'm still concerned i can't find the cockpit interaction menu item, altho there is a whole load listed under misc in the mouse settings. Frankly, they are gobbledegook.

[@leonardlakey7779]

Ok, ready for a really dumb question? I have logged 100 hours on MSFS 2020 and gained some confidence in landing and IFR flying but I can’t figure out how to do a very basic thing on the Garmin 1000 system: Switching between #1 and #2 radios. I know you press the tuning knobs to accomplish that, but I can’t seem to it with my mouse. I can switch active channels because my cursor turns into a pointing finger when I hover over the double arrow but when I move to the tuning knob the cursor becomes an open palm for adjusting the tuning. What am I doing wrong? Couldn’t have anything to do with the fact I am using a wireless mouse, could it?

[@Huddison]

I'm not sure what's going wrong for you there, as I've just tried it in the C172 and it works as it should 🤔. Are you part of the Discord Leonard? Aces would be a great person to help sort this one out for you. Btw: do you have the G1000 NXI mod installed?

[@DiscoDave50]

Switching between #1 and #2 can be done by left clicking on the tuning knob then right clicking. I do believe that is how it's done. Hope this helps?

[@leonardlakey7779]

@@DiscoDave50 That did it. Thanks. I think my problem was aggravated by the fact that I had my mouse pointer set to large because of visual acuity problems.

[@DiscoDave50]

@@leonardlakey7779 No problem. Happy to help 😁

[@greekdude1280]

no fix for the hotas with the update .

[@Huddison]

Sadly not yet

[@Huddison]

@@miggelie It remembers the sensitivity settings too?

[@morgidvmw0mdv]

Has any one other than me had trouble with the latest mandatory update? When I click on the mandatory update which shuts down MSFS and takes you to the Microsoft Store to download it, IT'S NOT THERE. MUMMBLE! GRUMBLE! It's imposable to launch MSFS until you get that download installed. I've been trying for around three days with no luck. If anyone can guide me to on the right path I would be HUGELEY greatful. sign, Shaking With Withdrawal Symtems.

[@Huddison]

Ask this in the Discord David, I'm sure some will supply an answer to your issue there ;)

[@BenM81]

Quick question. You know you left click your mouse on PROC to enter approach info. Then you left clicked a blinking approach to enter the info! What’s the equivalent of that left click mouse on the Xbox controller on Xbox. I tried everything and for the life of me I cannot find a way to enter anything.

[@Huddison]

It should be simply hovering over the button and pressing 'A'; but will have to check that out!

[@fangio80]

I'm doing something wrong for sure but it's not working for me. I'm very frustrated, I tried also with different aircraft but not working.

[@Huddison]

What's going wrong?

[@fangio80]

@@Huddison a lot of things. First things I have some differences on the map in the right screen, the route is 90° rotated, so that the aircraft point from bottom to the top of the screen, and also I cannot scroll using the mouse, as you explained. But theese are not really bad problems. The problem is that after I have loaded the procedure, when I go on the left screen, though the GPS mode is selected, the violet G doesn't show (there is a violet V instead) and so after take off when I select NAV mode nothing happens, and the same the approach procedure doesn't work (the diamond dot doesn't compare). I hope I explained myself and thanks for all your tutorials, very helpuful and interesting

[@Huddison]

@@fangio80 Have you got the G1000 NXI mod installed (the free G1000 mod)? That may explain some of the differences that you have.

[@fangio80]

@@Huddison I have G1000 NXI 0.5.1 installed, cheked now in the marketplace

[@Huddison]

@@fangio80 I don't have that mod installed, so can't currently tell you why it's different for you. I may do a video on the mod in the future.

[@ιωαννηςρεντζουλης]

Thank you for the wonderful presentation you made to us as you are usually very informative. I will ask you to tell me how the other Simmers planes will appear to me. I have the Xbox siries s. Thenks agen.

[@Huddison]

Do you mean Multiplayer? If so, this video covers aspects of that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZSpm6iabNt8Z7M

[@ιωαννηςρεντζουλης]

@@Huddison theng you

[@kermitreturnz]

Im not seeing the cursor on the map to pan it.. it does nothing. Am i missing something?

[@Huddison]

If you're using the G1000 NXI Mod no, I'm having similar issues with it (see my latest video, towards the end).

[@kermitreturnz]

@@Huddison nope no mods as im on xbox sx will check it out

[@CaptainMiasma]

The pan map function will not work.. I think it's a bug..

[@xjay1234]

What's the difference between ILS approach and RNAV approach?

[@Huddison]

RNAV is GPS and satellite-based, while ILS is just a landing system and is fully ground-based.

[@xjay1234]

@@Huddison So, which one is best for people to use?

[@Huddison]

@@xjay1234 It's up to personal preference and dependant on the airport's capabilities (i.e. if it has ILS or not).

[@daneav8]

@@xjay1234 Hello, I fly professionally and I hope this helps. As Huddison said below, it just depends on several things including aircraft equipment capability, airport approach options (some smaller and maybe more remote airports may not have a ground-based ILS system...so only RNAV/GPS approaches are available), the minimum descent altitude ("Minimums") allowed by each approach (if the weather is really low, then you would want to pick an approach that offers the lowest minimums and therefore the best chance of seeing the runway), and finally pilot preference (some choose an RNAV over an ILS because the Missed Approach segments are typically less complex for example). Also, the airport may have both ILS and RNAV approaches, but the particular day you are there the ILS is down for maintenance (it is a ground based system requiring periodic service), therefore RNAV is your only choice. There are other reasons, but this covers some of the most common.

[@daneav8]

Did anyone else witness Joyfulpage16730 crashing his/her 747 in the background at 21:00? Tragic

[@bartecki75]

👍✈️😊

[@1988DanielJ]

You stopped so short that you could have landed on top of a building.

[@DoraDuncan]

Forgot to reply. That way complicated. I'll walk. That's hard enuff

[@Huddison]

😎