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@lxfenixАй бұрын
I hate to be that "gamepass bad" guy, but there's no way you can say HiFi Rush wouldn't have made more money if gamepass didn't exist.
@BrokenMessiah1Ай бұрын
Might have helped to actually market it too. It's not like Xbox had anything else going on. That year the only game they released was Pentiment.
@stijnvonck1431Ай бұрын
Goes for all games released day one on gamepass. Look at Starfield, not the best game but it would have sold
@BigWranglerАй бұрын
Honestly im starting to realize how bad gamepass is as well. Although idk how much money they make from their game being on gamepass. But yea, most pple wont buy games anymore and just wait for it to be on gamepass. They wont even buy games they liked when they leave gamepass
@stijnvonck1431Ай бұрын
@@BigWrangler indeed, even third party games that are sure to sell a lot of copies like persona 3 reload.
@captaindestruction9332Ай бұрын
Actually I think you can. That was a very word of mouth game and its a niche genre. It would’ve done leagues better if it actually had some advertisement. Im honestly blown away at the sheer lack of advertisement done for games like HiFi Rush to bring more people to Gamepass or sell more copies.
@stijnvonck1431Ай бұрын
Remember when a lot of people said it wasn't a good idea for xbox to buy all those studios? Yeah, the supporters of that merger should look in the mirror
@crunchyblend8809Ай бұрын
I think Aaron greenberg was doing damage control and jeff grubb was right about hi fi rush underperforming.
@josetomascamposrobledano4618Ай бұрын
TANGO!?!?!?! THEY ARE INSANE!
@cheeseycake1Ай бұрын
Tango specifically getting shut down seems like a causality of Gamepass. For subscription services, subscriber growth is everything and the reason these layoffs are happening at all is because Starfield was confirmed to not have grown Gamepass to Microsofts expectations. Hi-Fi rush was too big of a game to be considered a low risk investment, but not big enough to push Gamepass growth for Microsoft to happily be investing in the type of games Tango would be making.
@Kudos2_MeАй бұрын
Tango just didn’t have the sales numbers as much I hate to admit it. Evil Within and Ghost Runner just weren’t that popular. Their games focused on a niche crowd when Xbox needed a heavy hitter from them.
@M64brosАй бұрын
NOOOOOOOOO THAT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE STUDIOS!!!
@JeannieLoveАй бұрын
Tango cuts the deepest. I was so excited to finally be able to play Hi-Fi Rush on PS5. I even got the deluxe edition because the game was so worth supporting. I'm blaming it on Microsoft didn't like the commentary on capitalism the story made.
@Steven9567Ай бұрын
capitalism? its just a crazy guy trying to control people not really capitalism
@FireRobynDixonАй бұрын
I know MS/Xbox is too poor to sustain these companies. I hope they are able to stay afloat through their hard times. 🙂
@xavierkrantz1098Ай бұрын
Well Xbox sure screwed up
@flamingospitАй бұрын
No wonder Shinji Mikami left last year.
@therealjaystone2344Ай бұрын
The gaming industry is going to hit the reset button, no way it's going to haver the third crash in history.
@captaindestruction9332Ай бұрын
Maybe. I wouldn’t expect anything drastic. Downsizing of companies or cutting back on budgets etc. is the most I see happening. No where near the original crash.
@DoubleTGameHustleАй бұрын
Scary times man, sucks how alot of amazing things are shutting down...
@jameskozy7254Ай бұрын
I know a lot of people who only play battle Royale, short burst, low attention span kind of games. Chalked full of micro transactions of course. It's sad but true.
@vernontkАй бұрын
I actually like my Series S, use it as a media center in the living room. I really like that I have access to a library of old Xbox games with improved visuals. Game Pass is a great deal and I dip in from time to time. But WOW have they dropped the ball with their first-party studios. Forza Horizon 5 slapped, but beyond that, it's been a lot of disappointment. I'm still game for Avowed and Fable, but expectations are low.
@julianjuezАй бұрын
Was hoping for Hi-fi Rush to come to the Switch 😢
@eded9157Ай бұрын
If they kill Tango with HFRush, Ninja Theory is next, Hellblade better become the best seller game of 2024, the last game from Ninja Theory was a huge disaster, MS will not forgive to misses back to back unless you have HUGE IP to fall back.
@thirdsupernovaАй бұрын
Ninja Theory is apart of Microsoft not Team Ninja. Team Ninja is doing just fine
@eded9157Ай бұрын
@@thirdsupernova Oh i'm sorry, my bad, not Team Ninja, those are Nioh devs. I meaned Ninja Theory.
@amberkashif8190Ай бұрын
Is the game still available though?
@cheenuchariАй бұрын
I live 10 mins away from Arkane Austin and its really heartbreaking to see a great studio that produced amazing games like Dishonored 1 and Prey 2017 then produce a dumpster fire with Redfall and now being shut down. They had really talented level designers, artists, and engineers, my heart goes out to them. Also, the fact that Tango Gameworks is shutting down after their surprise hit, Hi-Fi Rush both makes me sad and angry at the same time. Microsoft needs to focus on making due with the studios they have and focus on quality and setting proper financial expectations. No more f****** acquisitions, there's already enough corporate consolidation in the gaming landscape. No more!
@midengineZ06Ай бұрын
Tango GameWorks games are critical darlings but that doesn't mean that its Profitable or Sustainable under XBOX GAME PASS (we will probably never know) but it's an educated guess. To a corporate GIANT's LIKE at MICROSOFT, IT DOES"NT MATTER TO THEM if they are critical darlings IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
@Sawyer1982OACАй бұрын
Shadow drop your best game in ages, without marketing, just on gamepass then complain about sales numbers… Yeah, they sure know what they’re doing huh?
@captaincrunch1707Ай бұрын
Imagine Tango & Austin cost 25 million a year to fund the studio in 2020. Enter high inflation and reduced productivity from remote dev work. So 2024 has doubled the yearly studio cost to 50 million a year & the dev production cycle now takes an extra year. Yeah, the economy is fried imho
@gracekim25Ай бұрын
Yeah this is awful 😣 Microsoft sucks 😬
@seangriffey8669Ай бұрын
arkane austin shutting down hurts. prey is a top 10 game for me.
@ivanexell-uz4mvАй бұрын
I could understand them shrinking Arkane and shutting down the useless mobile studios, but I don’t understand closing down tango. Hi Fu rush did amazing and is a very amazing game :/
@timholloway8821Ай бұрын
Man xbox seems to be falling apart at the seams.
@mr.cheesytoad5845Ай бұрын
This sucks, Hi Fi Rush looked genuinely awesome.
@jingtroc23Ай бұрын
To answer your video title, simply, they moved most of the Devs to other projects with more potential, which I think is a good thing.
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
They didn't move most of the devs. They fired basically all of them, except for Roundhouse which is now on ESO support.
@hulkhogan12345Ай бұрын
How stupid can you be.. still protecting Xbox 😂😂😂 they kill everything they touch..unlimited money and still fuck it all up. There's a reason Xbox sales are at lowest ever recorded. It's dying. Gamepass has killed it.. all you idiots saying it's the best deal in gaming.. it's your fault.
@uppernimbusАй бұрын
This is pretty terrible, I really don't understand Microsoft sometimes...
@pjisleta1994Ай бұрын
get ready for june showcase hahahahaha
@lorddrifter7296Ай бұрын
Ehhh its bound to happen. Shut some stuff down move people around
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
It’s not bound to happen. There’s no reason for this to happen when the games made were both commercial and critical successes.
@FabuBrikАй бұрын
@@BoTalksGames In what delusional world was Redfall a commercial and critical success?
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
Did I say Redfall?
@lorddrifter7296Ай бұрын
@@BoTalksGames no redfall was ass. Hi fi rush was ok
@alwayslaughing2541Ай бұрын
You look like a concerned lesbian mother in the thumbnail and for that, amazing video
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
new favorite comment
@alwayslaughing2541Ай бұрын
@@BoTalksGames haha no disrespect bro I’m just breaking balls
@Pedro19993Ай бұрын
I see a green future
@lorddrifter7296Ай бұрын
Hi fi rush was ehhhh.
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
It’s actually one of the best reviewed games Microsoft has ever released! Hope this helps.
@lorddrifter7296Ай бұрын
@@BoTalksGames as someone who played it. I thought it was ok. I kinda forced myself thru it
@blackrahk2037Ай бұрын
@@BoTalksGamesThats sad when you think about it...
@jalenicharles4110Ай бұрын
Xbox studio you made biggest mistake
@BigMojo41Ай бұрын
Games will still come , don’t focus on the title Tango and Arkane Austin
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
No reason to think Ninja Theory, Compulsion, Double Fine and more won’t be shut down at this point after they release one more game.
@Flyeaglesfly215Ай бұрын
Ima be honest, who gives asf, these small ass games and redfall deserves to be shutdown after that waste of time. A small step.back for 2 steps forward, they focused on activision as they should be.
@FabuBrikАй бұрын
Let's be honest, none of these studios were putting out hits. Hi-Fi rush is a hidden gem, but the rest of it? Even still, hidden gems don't pay the bills.
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
Microsoft explicitly stated that Hi-Fi Rush was a commercial success. So yeah they do pay the bills lmao
@FabuBrikАй бұрын
@@BoTalksGames of course they're going to say it was a success. MS also said Halo Infinite was a success. Porting an exclusive to competitors and shutting down studios tells you very clearly it wasn't. Actions speak way louder than words.
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
By your logic Sea of Thieves isn’t a success because it’s on PS5.
@FabuBrikАй бұрын
@@BoTalksGames Nah that's just a straw man. The goal of maximizing potential was the same with both games, but MS is not going to shut down Rare.
@Yohhan_hereАй бұрын
I actually agree, when it comes to profit i doubt even Hi-Fi rush made anything huge.
@PixelPikminАй бұрын
There goes my hope of Hi Fi Rush on switch or its sucessor🫠
@BoTalksGamesАй бұрын
I guess it’s not impossible that another studio could port it but…yeah not looking good