XFAD-4 ''Draugr'' Changes Are Coming ► Countermeasures, Kerosene Bomb Damage, Bug Fixes

Battlefield's lead vehicle designer is looking into feedback around the countermeasures for the Draugr bomber. They've also confirmed several bugs for the Kerosene Bomb, mobility hits, and respawns.
00:00 Intro
01:03 Draugr Changes
01:27 Mobility Hit Bug
02:08 Kerosene Bomb damage-over-time
02:44 Counter-measure Feedback
05:22 Rocket Pods Dusting?
05:52 Respawn Bug
06:20 AGM Laser Damage

[@rykerreese1295]

Can’t believe something as simple as “the fire bomb doesn’t actually leave fire on the ground!” Gets thru to the release, after it was already 7-9 weeks late

[@gryph1116]

"cant believe [insert feature] got thru unfinished to the release" has been this game's tagline

[@NAVYPROUD34]

@@gryph1116fr

[@jonny-b4954]

DICE is a bunch of amateurs nowadays. Not the studio they used to be.

[@BourbonBandit-]

This is just the latest example of something getting through that shouldn't have. Whether it's bugs or design choices. HUGE red flag for the next game.

[@ToroidalZero4]

​@@jonny-b4954 Yeah, a lot of the Devs that worked on our most beloved battlefield games left DICE because they weren't happy with the way EA was forcing them to push unfinished stuff out before it was ready.

[@xTimx2002]

Pertaining to the underground bug, it isnt just relating to the draugr, it was bugging for me when i was picking another jet/heli. but it was only happening on the solo conquest.

[@greelow]

Actually it hqppens to me even when I was using Lise missile

[@user-pf3gd1zd2i]

I also want to add that when it does bug out it's not limited to just aircraft, it happens to every vehicle. This glitch was in the game before but they were able to fix it. From what I've seen you're still in the vehicle steering it but the visual line is broken and locked in the ground. I spawned in the bomber and was able to emp some people but crashed because I couldn't see.

[@RancidLimes89]

​@user-pf3gd1zd2i Yeah, every vehicle goes to the upside-down with full controls. But some of the none pilot seats in some vehicles have a normal view, like the Polaris passenger seats.

[@J-downing]

It happens to me on a few things tank air ground ground vehicles wired missiles pretty much everything that you would operate

[@user-pf3gd1zd2i]

@@RancidLimes89 Has anyone found a workaround that would fix this?

[@Dx_Ach]

here are the AGM stats with Laser since nobody posted it last video. Lock on range 970m, 1.5 sec time to lock on Tank - 84 damage (65 damage front) MAV - 65 damage (56 damage front / 91 damage back) Wildcat, browler, Transport heli - 88 damage every side any othter vehicles(air too) got 1 shot kill

[@billcosby816]

The camera bug has been an issue for months with the jets so I’m surprised they just picked it up

[@user-sx4rj1mz6k]

It’s also an issue for the Liz missile

[@urkeksi4490]

It has been an issue with Liz missile for like a year but since it only affected SP/Coop nobody gave a shit

[@Crbneee]

DICE not doing ANY testing? That‘s a surprise.

[@EDOOO24]

Imo that's why they gave us air superiority mode fully unlocked, to play with draugr and unlock everything and not by farming the infantry

[@cozcann]

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but when you take a hit with a 20 MM HE cannon, there is no sound. A few times a Draugr coming from behind shot at me and I realized this after my health was reduced to half

[@krazykuz13cmc]

Its been like this for the last 6 months with other jets

[@parkaller7959]

Yeah, same with the attack helis gunner. That thing does not do any sound when you get hit.

[@xlAnimosty]

@@krazykuz13cmcnope it’s been like this since frostbite 3 with battlefield 3. This is an engine wide issue referred to as dusting which happens with all explosive projectiles at what seems like random intervals.

[@ItsNotMyWallet]

And you can't hear Liz rockets

[@cozcann]

@@ItsNotMyWallet Yea this is the another annoying problem. If u using Jet or Heli can't hear Lis Missle sound, when Missle hit you after that you reilizing

[@Acheron.426]

Hope they fix that bug. It also applies to other vehicles and Liz missile as well. Been like this for months.

[@CGlizard]

the camera bug in co-op has existed since season 3

[@foabmoab]

It needs some kind of countermeasure, or at least the ability to increase or avoid lock on while using its stealth mode. I wasn't aware of the kerosene effect so much, but I'd like them to change up the camera angle a bit on third person aiming or when using the secondary. The way it goes to a fisheye camera makes it difficult to gauge your target.

[@Wokzein]

i hope they fix the bug where spot assists dont work on unlocking the draugr player card

[@Targon999]

I noticed the bug after dying in a vehicle as well, but it's in ANY vehicle, that is, if you play against AI. It even affects the tv missile.

[@damienmcdonald7610]

I do like the new jet a lot. Bugs aside I think it's pretty spot on except for countermeasures. The issue I have with having no defence against lock on missiles is that they require little/no skill to use which is why so many do and a single Crawford can have 4 to 5! So as soon as someone gets annoyed you killed them which is usually pretty quick for me they're just gonna spawn in with them and solely focus you...

[@gigabot3662]

I am the only guy using tracer darts, I feel like. I've seen dozens of SOFLAMs out and about, though they are still pretty rare. I use it too; though there's a good chance no engineer for miles will realize.

[@damienmcdonald7610]

Yeah the issues with the SOFLAM or tracer darts or raos hack is 1: they don't alert relevant team mates about the lock on, 2: the player who is using the locking equipment doesn't really get any sort of reward. In my opinion if a vehicle you've designated with SOFLAM gets killed by a missile because of it, both players should get the kills and vehicle destroyed

[@gigabot3662]

@damienmcdonald7610 Agreed. If you have the designator out, you can see designations, same for any missile system - even man portable dumb-fires. But who is going to just whip it out unprovoked?

[@m1xabl3]

@@damienmcdonald7610true especially considering the significant damage increase it provides

[@Slenderneer]

@@m1xabl3 It actually doesn't give much of a damage boost. In many cases, it's actually a damage nerf (especially against ground armour). The only weapon that gets a damage buff is the Javelin, which is only from 42 to 50 (and gets countered by thermal smoke and APS, which tanks can have both of at the same time)

[@BrwnShinobi]

Need to add you to my friend's list then lol

[@Hollowsoldi3r]

It's not only the stealth jet that's gets the underground bug. But I was getting it on any air vehicle.

[@Hardbrand]

nice flying ghost...🎈

[@bernardfigiel198]

@GhostGamingg - this bug with view locked under ground always happens to me on solo mode with never fixed for seasons bug with Lis rocket - it happens exactly the same - you fire her G-48 TGM rocket, and another one you cannot see. Sometimes after a shot like this you cannot even pilot a helicopter. It's present for few seasons now and it's still not fixed.

[@WigglePuppy_]

DICE- You have vocalized issues and concerns pertaining to the new stealth jet and we have heard you all and we listened. We will now buff the wildcat and nerf the drauger.

[@trueneeru9772]

The camera bug has been happening on solo for Lis TGM missiles for over a year and despite people posting videos on EA answers forum showing the issue, it still has yet to be resolved.

[@sharkbit1136]

My one issue with how the draugr plays is its lack of defence. I understand the glass cannon role, I think it's a pretty interesting role for a bomber, but the annoyance of not being able to get the ECM off in time and getting smoked by a missile you can't defend against is infuriating. A good change I think would be to have a passive locking penalty for any missiles trying to lock the Draugr. It dosent need countermeasures, just more time for the player to hit the ECM button before missiles get launched. I think that's why it feels so different than other air vehicles. With the other jets, you have a large window for countermeasures, but with the Draugr, It's gotta be a second or less. I dunno. Just an idea I had.

[@Sweet266]

What server is this??? Cuz when I Take of I get LASERED down within 8 sec by a Jet...

[@stephanegger9887]

the missiles work kinda like the hydras. You have to lead them further so they'll explode in the middle of the plane. if you hit them at the rear they'll always dust.

[@cartermccool6233]

I chained up some nice kills a couple rounds and got 41 with it in another just started using the JDAM and the jammer that was beautiful so far I would say perfect on guns underpowered on defences

[@favclassisspy9478]

I got a lot of dusting with the rocket pods too. But when they hit, they hit.

[@RHG_Music]

It’s crazy how unbelievably overpowered they launched the stealth heli vs how defenseless this stealth bomber is. It doesn’t have near enough damage output to warrant not even having flares

[@bananas1318]

I dont think the patch did anything to the attack choppers, they can still kill wildcats pretty quick especially if you have a gunner.

[@MegaSoundtracks]

yes that bug affect all specialist when u enter a vechile(LIS camera rocket bug)

[@Eric-qx1kx]

When the Draugr was first announced, a guy who talks to the devs told me, it was not meant to survive a long time, it was meant to be a one or two pass thing and done, thats it. So that was the original plan for it, it was always meant to be a glass cannon, its not a design flaw that it has no countermeasures, thats what they wanted, thus its not going to be changed.

[@BrwnShinobi]

I've unlocked it, used it, I like it in online game play when you have some engineers that get after tanks! First game I EMP 5 tanks and all where destroyed when I did. Then I got shot down quickly by wildcat. Maybe Increase health from AA missile can balance it; without the countermeasures???? But the underground spawn in solo matched tripped me out lol. Just trying to fly better and learn its movements'; I had to end the game and launch again since I couldn't respawn in it lol

[@looming_]

Radar jammer needs to increase stinger lock time for sure.

[@somedude8613]

Draugr bullets are silent. You lose health in helicopters and you won't notice it

[@jasonallen8981]

I was told by multiple sources that there is no plans to add counter measures because it already OPish....... I manage to get FXM 33 AA stinger to T3 in 6 matches in 1 shot hardcore server

[@thenozar7603]

Over 3y of “life-cycle” development and this game still disappoints. That’s consistency right there 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@justinadson3412]

It not having countermeasures against soldier AA launchers is a shame. It only takes two people in a server to ruin the effectiveness of the Draugr. Not to mention those folks that love to jump out of transport helis to parachute lock on vehicles in friendly spawns. I've had that happen a few times since the update.

[@Exolei]

For anyone trying to level it in solo/coop, exposure has been the most reliable for me. It doesnt glitch into the floor as often as other maps and the wildcats dont target you as much. (The different heights of the map make it so that they dont bother if theyre not in the same part of the map as you. Lets you fly around worry free in at least half the map at a time

[@greelow]

Personally I use the map Spearhead to unlock the attachment with the bots. When you spawn in the drone, you have a delay before the bots spawn. Then by the time you arrive at their spawn you can easily kill 2-6 bots in one way with the default weapon. Then you come back and because the bots are healing themselves you can kill a good amount again. Will be even better when I unlock the kerosene bombs.

[@Jabullz]

Theres no reason to introduce yet another vehicle that can go 144-0. You've already got plenty of them.

[@Lead_Magnet_old]

Finally the FXM-33 AA Missile is useful again.

[@Arhan28]

As a jet main. The jet vehicle disabling instantly on any damage taken is kind of spoiling the update. Hopefully they fix it asap.

[@Arhan28]

yeah, jets are completely unplayable. Get hit by a nightbird and your jet/xfad is disabled and unable to survive if your being targeted by any other vehicle. This needs to be hotfixed. It's ruined the game for me

[@deemon710]

Thank God the disabled state things is a bug. I thought they were just making it THAT much harder to make frontal attacks in an AH.

[@shellshockhkmk7816]

The draugr should take 3-4 missiles Okay you said that right as i wrote this lmao. Also the collision for the Draugr is weird, Especially for the wings, it seems that the wings don’t collide with anything, I flew too low on Spearhead and managed to land and not die by the back of the water domes at D, and managed to squeak through between the rocky map border and the structure and get back in the air and my wings weren’t colliding with the structures at all lol. Currently my biggest threat in the Draugr is the tall radio towers on most maps >w< I can’t see them in thermals and when i pull up its too late lol.

[@Head-Tr1ck]

Mine is not being able to kill any armor in one pass with agms and AP. Why the fuck didn't they test this thing before releasing it?

[@lampreygaming8407]

I've been trying to use the draugr on single player modes but I can't find any maps that allow me to play it. Is draugr multiplayer only rn or am I not doing something right?

[@rykerreese1295]

I used conquest orbital

[@Acheron.426]

Yeah play conquest, might not be available on all breakthrough maps.

[@markmc5112]

I think u need to also unlock it I did try that on Orbital and still locked

[@GhostGamingg]

Well firstly you need to have it unlocked to use it in conquest, for that you'll need 40 ribbons in any game mode. You can check your progress under the 'Control Unlocked' option.

[@sorakojootti2725]

What about the dissapearing bomb crosshair bug? Its annoying as hell. No one is talking about that. Shown at 7:57

[@skyserf]

0:16 YESSSSSSSS 😖

[@pichiticivita4234]

not even had a landing gear，hey dice u did make those in there?

[@airfiero4772]

I unlocked it and tried it out in Solo/Coop. It was underwhelming. The new LMG isn't bad, but blows through the 90 bullet mag really fast. Better equip an ammo box.

[@samirrayes616]

Xfad needs flares, but i could live with the jammer and camo being combined into 1 + also jamming stingers

[@reaveright4223]

they should bring back jet physics from bf3/4

[@williewilson2250]

No

[@cliftondavis2028]

Question:but isn't the Draugr a drone,not a "jet",💪🏾😎making it easier to bring done with minimal damage?IDKIJA

[@user-pf3gd1zd2i]

They need to do 3 things: (1) Fix the glitches, especially the ground one. (2) Nerf the requirements to unlock the upgrades. (3) Raise the survivability of the bomber. I want to like the Draugr but what they gave us makes it difficult. If they can fix the first 2 issues then I could probably make due with the third.

[@elitecontractkillerseck7639]

Minor annoyance but pond hawk... spawns in deeply in front of path land vehicles, asdholes run Mr over causing collision damage and teamkill....I wish someone would address this

[@metnoc10]

So the news is basically no news since the gist of the status update is that there are bugs in bf2042.

[@LD-sx9pr]

So far I like how balanced the draugr is compared to attack jets and bombers of old. But I have to say DICE needs to change default unlocks to get countermeasures by default on ALL vehicles like making Thermal smoke the default for tanks and Jets and Helis, it straight up punished new players to try and learn the vehicle which is a historical problem with battlefield when it comes to getting balancing data and opinions besides the top vehicle players. one of many issue with SOFLAM still is because how Flares work in 2042 where they are like Flares of old and ECM together and straight up wash the Designation off and stops the missile, removing the point of using them if negates it completely. this is really apparent with Helis having the most power in anti infantry and tank than the new bomber or even helis of old. On JETs the 2042 flares kinda doesn't mean much since DICE made it so stealth jets/ F35/ SU57 don't have much impact towards infantry anyways so it can stay as is since the only real counter to them is other jets and occasionally other methods. But on helis it's problematic especially when the NB a heli made to transport a sqaud is a better Anti tank chopper than the real Attack helis when it has the super flares and crazy mobility without relying on a teammate.

[@Slenderneer]

While jets have less impact against infantry, it's still too much enough thanks to DICE adding rocket pods.

[@Kentel_AI]

How do you make so many kills to unlock bomber weapons ? Farming on solo/co-op?

[@e_s_egoldie5051]

Yeah unfortunately the only way to farm against bots is by going to solo conquest, if you attempt to make your own portal or join other portals against bots (unless it’s PVP bots in that case it’ll have “PVP bots Full XP” or something in the title) then you won’t get the kills added to your vehicle progression, you can get player xp from portal against PVE bots but that’s it, no vehicle or weapon kills will be added to your stats. I recommend intermediate mode as in beginner the AI barely move around and the games are more dynamic that way, whereas in hard mode you get shot down with recoilless m5’s every 2 minutes 😭

[@immortalmadman4822]

I feel like the only bombers that ever worked in a BF game were BF1 they were the best feeling unbalanced and when balanced

[@Paradox_Z3RO]

amazing how they havent done anything about spawn camping like that. the bast battlefield like 3 and 4 had A-rams sitting in spawn so when enemy aircraft would get detected and they would try to shoot them down

[@greelow]

Personally I use the map Spearhead to unlock the attachment with the bots. When you spawn in the drone, you have a delay before the bots spawn. Then by the time you arrive at their spawn you can easily kill 2-6 bots in one way with the default weapon. Then you come back and because the bots are healing themselves you can kill a good amount again. Will be even better when I unlock the kerosene bombs.

[@BellmanProduction]

There’s an issue on Xbox one that a friend and I have where flying in jets will literally freeze the damn game. I know I can stream it on cloud gaming but there’s too much latency for my personal liking

[@robert_5974]

I hace to stop myself with the SOFLAM. Once I break it out I stay with it the entire round lol. If I see someone ask for one in chat I will grab it if I'm not in the middle of something important for me. I really enjoy successful support roles. What I hate though is when I will continue using it and then no one is continually taking advantage of it.

[@Eric-qx1kx]

SOFLAM'ers the unsung hero's of BF2042.

[@thecrom777]

Crazy, almost like test servers and full fledged betas are useful

[@TJMGator]

I’m using it a lot… VERY frustrating

[@Hajsansvejsan]

The only thing thats not under Powered is the knife if you not play it "hardcore"

[@mrpumpkinpumpkins3926]

the respawn bug with the stuck cam is apparantly again a PvE only bug the same as the one with Lis rocket launcher cam bug thats only in PvE i fucking hope they fix both...

[@Whaley96]

So do the Russians and US have separate versions of this or is it just sold from one central company that doesn't have any sworn allegiance? I'm confused on what's going on in this game.

[@jayce5234]

The bomber is slower tho. Full AB makes it go like 390-400. The felon and panther go 435ish full AB

[@9411Gio]

I just say yes leave it as is. But give it extra bombs and extra damage and that will compensate it.

[@CapStar362]

I just wish they would fix the PC HOTAS Support. every PC Title prior had proper flight stick and HOTAS Support ( Single input ) then BF1 - FULL HOTAS Support for multi-input. BFV, proper FULL HOTAS support. now lets get BF2042 - ZERO PC Flight Stick support and 4 major updates in, we FINALLY get some flight stick support but still no proper HOTAS support. Its 2024, it takes literally 4 files totaling 486MB of disk space to enable this feature to support just about every flight stick and HOTAS on the PC Market. this should not be an issue. BF1942 - flight stick support BF2 - flight stick support BF Vietnam - flight stick support BF2142 - flight stick support BFBC2 - flight stick support BF3 - flight stick support BF4 - flight stick support BF1 - flight stick support + Multi-input BFV - flight stick support + Multi-input BF2042 - Zero Support till Update Season 4 - flight stick support but no Multi-input support.

[@Arhan28]

you probably can find some work arounds for it. I thought about getting a hotas for it since i'm a jet main. I just haven't because it be a learning curve.

[@CapStar362]

@@Arhan28 i have already tried the alternatives. VJoy and Joystick Gremlin do not like my X-56 HOTAS and dual input. but instead of DICE doing the right thing and putting 4 files totaling 486MB of Disk space and making basically EVERY HOTAS on the market working properly, they have to be difficult. BF1 supported my X-56 Natively, BFV supported my X-56 Natively. BF1942, BF2, BF-Vietnam, BF2142, BFBC2, BF3 and BF4 supported my X-52 Natively. Why is it BF2042 had ZERO support till Season 4 where only partial support was added.

[@Arhan28]

@@CapStar362 I’d like to see it too. I think it would be a learning curve to me and I’m not sure how I would setup my desk for it. I like the concept of it

[@Dirt33breaks]

Lol that spawn bug image was my gameplay, yes you can use my image ghost, your welcome

[@GhostGamingg]

Tbh I didn't even realize it was from you, it was just a handy reference image I saw on Reddit and thought it show-cased the bug quite well. I don't need your permission to use your image though Dirtee, you uploaded it to the internet so that everybody had access to it and it isn't copyrighted, just like how anybody can download my videos off of KZbin and use them as reference material too, so climb down off your high horse mate.

[@Dirt33breaks]

@@GhostGamingg dude it was a joke. I would never say / mean such idiotic things seriously, it didnt even come to me that anyone would. I'm not a nobhead lol. Sorry for the confusion lol

[@MrMotopsyco69]

Dice: "you need to get kills to upgrade the draugr, here is a 2 shot to kill vehicle with some marshmallows and an EMP as weapons, good luck" Get kills with what, ramming? Good job thinking about that one. In about 500hrs of gameplay I should get my first upgrade. Ridiculous

[@turbomonkey7]

For me this is a case of the devs doing too much to “balance” the vehicle. The glass cannon approach isn’t inherently a bad idea they just need to make the vehicle powerful enough to actually make up for it. Let’s use the Ilya muromets from battlefield 1 as an example… People complain about it a lot because of how powerful its bombs are but it actually did enough damage to make it worth using despite the fact that 9 times out of 10 you’d die before you get a chance to deliver a second bombing run. The draughr in its current state is nowhere near powerful enough in my opinion to make its weakness and low survivability justified

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah that's exactly the issue. You can either spawn a Draugr which is slightly more powerful than a regular fighter but die after a couple of strafes, or you can spawn a fighter and stay alive easily strafe after strafe for a slight drop in power.

[@Manu-qc7jq]

I'm very disappointed in DICE (I'm a Battlefield fan, that's a catchphrase of ours), considering the Draugr is something that came 7 weeks late and still has so many bugs. *HOWEVER*, I'll say that I'm having a buncha fun with the actual Draugr, especially since it's genuinely the *one* unique vehicle in 2042. This shouldn't be the case and it's disgusting that it is, the Draugr is the only one vehicle that has a concrete role on the battlefield. Its current skill ceiling is really high and I enjoy that. I don't expect DICE to take that as a positive tho, and fully expect them to buff it and neuter it into a "casual friendly" (let's ignore that I would consider myself a casual BF player) skill ceiling.

[@ScorpeX666]

The choppers are also instantly disabled when you get hit by 1-2 shots. I also don´t see the reason why they changed the speed of the tow missiles. I agree that they were very strong. But they are almost useless in terms of shooting air vehicles with it. If you were good in tow, you were able to shoot down jets, choppers. It was the "master the weapon" for choppers... and now it´s almost useless... its one of the reasons why I finally stopped playing BF2042...

[@mirimon78]

Oh, and it's a drone.. so why do you die when it does?

[@EvilXero359]

Queue Ace Combat 7's Magic Spear

[@BadCo1999]

It should be a glass cannon. Yes! Wildcat missile should do 70 to it! Why are people complaining that it needs to be more hardy. You already have choppers and planes in the game that are tougher. We don't need another one of "those".

[@GhostGamingg]

So why even add it to the game? It's just useless and once people realize that it'll be obsolete. Just a big waste of development time.

[@looming_]

Give me stealth coating instead for drone

[@NAVYPROUD34]

The stealth mode should block lock ons, idc what anyone says.

[@khail127]

Did you get T1 yet?

[@Rando_Suave]

The devs don't dev bruh. I don't think a single dice employee has tested a single aspect of the game before it was implemented. That's what the "community" does. They should be paying us to play.

[@elitecontractkillerseck7639]

The wi gs are too easy to shoot then disable movement. It's too ooooo easy to disable wings on DRAUGR.

[@notoriousbigmoai1125]

Enemies shouldn't be able to locked on you when you go into invisibility mode.

[@shane1489]

Use the DFR Strife before they nerf that too.

[@Shyvorix]

Lmao its not even that good. Since this patch released I've died to it less than 5 or 6 times. Most of what I've died to are for sure regular ARs and SMGs in some maps. The delay from sprint to fire makes it trash unless someone holds an angle and just never plays aggressive.

[@shane1489]

@@Shyvorix Great, relax.

[@nastytechniquez9685]

Soooo over half of the draugr kit is bugged… are these guys even devs? Like what are they doing over at dice?? Sad af

[@mirimon78]

Also.. this is supposed to be modern aircraft.. why is it divebombing like it was made in 1940..? And no landing gear?

[@elitecontractkillerseck7639]

I find it funny Geneva Conventions is still taken seriously, even by no pats in tge future when most government is looking after thenselves only

[@octapusxft]

It makes absolutely no sense that it is not harder to get a radar lock on a stealth jet

[@williewilson2250]

Because it's a stinger dufus

[@williewilson2250]

STINGER

[@ayenoone]

No matter how many ribbons I get nothing unlocks lol

[@swector_unit4257]

I gotten it from ai mode. There were a few weapons I wanted to max from attachments

[@iamnooneno1]

@@swector_unit4257just logged on and it’s all unlocked sht game lol

[@ChrisMcEvoy72]

What a surprise. DICE release a new air vehicle, the pilot sweats start complaining and WITHIN DAYS, DICE say they are going to look at buffing it. Infantry players have been complaining about how OP the Nightbird is since the game was launched and have been completely ignored. I guess we definitely know where DICE's priorities lie in terms of the playerbase. The strength and number of countermeasures has completely ruined this game and the total lack of infantry versus vehicle balance is exactly why I won't be buying the next one. Enjoy yet another OP air vehicle when they inevitably buff it....

[@Vice1-4]

Well why I think there is a valid point to be made her- Wait, what the hell is that? (JDAM rapidly approaching your location) Yeah Battlefield is done for. Good luck finding other games everyone.

[@drl52488]

The engine thrust looks so dumb on this vehicle

[@rickcase8748]

What balance anything you fly your toast between the C Ram wildcat and there AA missile and ground missiles by soldiers on the ground The flares take to long to reload in air vehicles why don't they look into that it's out of balance.

[@FTGN7]

Thats why i say glass cannon myass

[@leobeniamini1905]

I think the JDAM should be able to 1 hit kill the wildcat and MBT given the fact its rather slow to drop and you'll most likely be destroyed approaching the enemy lol

[@UndeadConquer]

Like how they fix the but the Sraw is still in a shit state

[@pubsapass1214]

Exactly as you said. I'm usually a pilot in BF, but this plane, i tried it 2 times, and i'll never take it again until there's no countermesures.

[@cyborgofdeath]

how about increasing the amount of rockets it takes to kill the thing, instead of 2 rockets make it 3, you do not do that much damage to the other air crafts with the wildcat and AA rockets unless you hit a direct rpg shot and barely anyone uses soflam so that argument is out the window

[@Slenderneer]

Stinger missiles are always 2 shot to aircraft, except the Gunships. The issue here is that the bomber *is* a strong vehicle that people think is weaker than it is. It's also extremely mobile The issue is that people are trying to get unlocks against bots, which actually have competent AA that rarely have to deal with enemy infantry, aircraft or ground armour killing them. The base weaponry is terrible, but the rocket pods and JDAMs make up more than enough to make it strong.

[@kotzer71]

Honestly fuck air vehicles in this game

[@nurfyturf3202]

Drauger should have 3 to 4 extra Kerosene bombs in the ammo count. Jdam's needs a better explosion. NNEMP bomb should be a primary weapon instead of a secondary, to cater to those ground vehicle hunters.

[@ScreenWarrior]

ha Im the second one!

[@aburashed3418]

Battlefield games used to be enjoyable, but since DICE started listening to KZbinrs' advice, the games have become much worse. Vehicle balance should be like it was in Battlefield 3: Jets: Overpowered Helicopters: Very strong against vehicles and infantry Tanks: Strong against infantry, with a laser that can be used to damage aircraft and helicopters This balance structure should be followed. If the power of vehicles is reduced, the game will become worse and unrealistic.

[@tonyn2524]

If sone1 knows how to use wildcat this vehicle is literally useless, I have it maxed out and I gave up on it

[@pureblood6492]

imagine the aa tank countering aircraft what a concept now if would only counter the attack helicopter as well it might be deserving of the name anti air.

[@Shyvorix]

​@pureblood6492 Lmao. It's funny to hop in the wildcat and shut down enemy airspace cause you can actually use the main gun properly. It's fun making vehicle whores ragequit. If anything the only thread is MPAT tanks and tor's but if you play right with AT missiles like God intended they rarely survive a properly setup fight.

[@aeon7748]

@@ShyvorixI like your description “vehicle whores”, I share your sentiments and I’m an aggressive Wildcat player, I usually destroy everything except AC with a good player which can literally destroy me in seconds.

[@Shyvorix]

@aeon7748 They nerfed the AC so the best way to outgun them is catch them early and use the 35mm. The 30mm won't kill them fast enough. Before tho it was literally impossible.

[@jfygt2623]

Please pin me. I'm first 🙏

[@1Orderchaos]

L bozo

[@Colfax98]

DICE FIX THE FUCKING SRAW! no one uses that shit because its unusable, its terrible, and however made it the way it is should be fired