XMD Tornado v3 Pioneer: maglev adjustment system and the updated "ball" core

[@TesserId]

That magnet offset and the adjustment is yields is fascinating. Makes me want to rethink the setup of these. Thanks for the tear down.

[@JohnDeUlloa]

Finally a review that has substance. Well done Olga. Awesome review!!

[@Kyle_TheQuiltingBees]

Very clear and interesting to watch - thank you for creating this!

[@redAvoc]

This is exactly the kind of a video I was looking for to understand my Pioneer cube! Great work, thank you :D

[@moshi29.]

got my pioneer tornado v3 today and this is the exact core i got lol

[@palgotzoona]

One of my little adjustment handles popped off 😅 This should help me figure out how far I need to tear it down to be able to pop it back in.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Actually, you don't have to do what I did in this video. Just push this little rod in (the center piece and all the adjustment parts should be on it), twist it 90 degrees, and pull out - it will fix in place.

[@mithunnazir6333]

I ❤ you r all videos. All are good 😊👍

[@cube_range]

1:50 how did you manage to remove these 4 screws from the core? A really small screwdriver?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Yes, just a small screwdriver.

[@Eyz02hpwx]

Im having trouble aligning the maglev and it keeps popping out,not the rod but the maglev dual adjustment settings i think

[@namui]

This is very cool. Thanks for sharing!

[@iceroun4137]

Привет, а какой куб лучше взять Tornado v3 flgship или pioneer или Gan 11 m pro ?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Привет! Если крутишь легко и любишь быстрые кубы, чтобы поменьше усилий прикладывать, то Pioneer. У меня он основной. Если крутишь более агрессивно и хочешь постабильнее - то Flagship. Мне лично в Flagship не хватает большей гибкости, что ли, я люблю кубы легкого кручения. Gan вообще не рекомендую. У меня он валяется без дела.

[@iceroun4137]

@@OlgaFyodorova Понял, спасибо

[@nilz__]

Nice keyboard

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Thanks, it's a GMMK with GMK Fox keycaps :)

[@her_manisz]

i have standart version, can we upgrade it with add some magnet to the ball and change the spring to magnet ring? Thank you

[@OlgaFyodorova]

I don't think it's easy to do.

[@her_manisz]

@@OlgaFyodorova 🫣🫣🤣

[@her_manisz]

​@@OlgaFyodorovaOr there are some part we can buy for replace with ballcore magnet?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@her_manisz why did you buy Standard in the first place? You can buy a maglev core from The Cubicle, but you won't have magnets on corners. If you wanted ball core and maglev, you should have bought the Pioneer.

[@her_manisz]

@@OlgaFyodorova the price is very expensive 😔😔😔

[@creatre2349]

so on my tornado v3 the rod detached from the ball core along with the center piece. I didn't take out the screws but it happened, what do i do?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Take all the pieces out. Try to insert the rod in the core, pushing it and turning it 90° there. Then pull to fix it in place. If it doesn't work, carefully take out the screws and assemble everything together like I did in the video. Please reply on how it goes, because it may be useful to other cubers!

[@Krasi4]

Ольга здравствуйте) Не знаете случайно как отличить ревизии куба? В новой ревизии под крышками не должно быть винта? А есть только система регулировки?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

В первой были винты. Во второй пластиковые крепления, как я показываю в этом видео. Потом еще магниты на ножках поменяли - раньше они были вставлены в отдельные прозрачные детальки, а потом сделали ножку цельную с держателем для магнитов. Я думаю, сейчас уже старой ревизии нигде нет, только новые.

[@Krasi4]

@@OlgaFyodorova спасибо большое за ответ!) 👍👍👍

[@Krasi4]

@@OlgaFyodorovaну в нормальных магазинах может и нету, а на Али распродают всякий хлам… Заказал уже. Не помню когда я услышал об этих крестовинах, до заказа, или после🥲

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@Krasi4 Я заказывала несколько торнадиков, себе и знакомым, все на алиэкспрессе, и первая ревизия мне досталась только при первом заказе, вскоре после релиза. Дальше были свежие. С UV-покрытием мой торнадик - самой последней модификации, с цельными ножками.

[@Krasi4]

@@OlgaFyodorova еще раз спасибо за ответ) Та я сам натупил, там же на картинках все было видно. Реально в некоторых товарах куб с винтом, а в других с пластиковой заглушкой. Посмотрим, что приедет. Но вряд ли он будет отличаться от того, что указано на картинах..( С меня лайки каналу за Ваши подсказки)

[@petert.w.reynolds692]

this was the type of core i got for my pioneer, dropped it on the floor and exploded and broke the core, literally dont drop this cube lmao

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Were you able to fix it?

[@petert.w.reynolds692]

@@OlgaFyodorova can't, this requires very precise glueing, I had to get a replacement

[@heinz216]

@@petert.w.reynolds692 good thing I got mine long after the release so I got the updated core

[@jokerrayean925]

​@@OlgaFyodorova can i use maglev kit on tornado v3 standerd

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@jokerrayean925 What maglev kid are you talking about?

[@desmondchngkhaijiemoe3604]

I want to buy the standard version, did QiYi update their plastic core to transparent core on the tornado v3 standard version?I afraid I buy it and get a fragile core (sorry my English is bad)

[@OlgaFyodorova]

I don't think so.

[@desmondchngkhaijiemoe3604]

@@OlgaFyodorova so they don't updated the core on the standard version?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@desmondchngkhaijiemoe3604 I have no idea, but I haven't heard of that from anyone

[@desmondchngkhaijiemoe3604]

wrm v9 standard with magnetic core kit and wrm 2021 maglev, which will you prefer more?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@desmondchngkhaijiemoe3604 The WRM v9 standard doesn't have a magnetic core. If we compare the factory WRM v9 Standard and WRM 2021 Maglev, I'd choose WRM 2021 Maglev hands down. I'm not a fan of v9 Standard.

[@neonplays9892]

How small are those dang screws?!

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Emmm... pretty dang small? :)

[@NoLifeDax]

off topic, whats that keyboard and is it worth it. Im just asking bc it looks cool and i need a keyboard

[@OlgaFyodorova]

It's a GMMK full size - totally worth it in my opinion. But the keycaps are more expensive than the keyboard itself, it's GMK Fox - probably too much for most people.

[@GiyuT0mioka877]

Is the auto allign on the flagship ver good?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

It's kinda unobtrusive, not as noticeable as on WRM v9 or Gan maglev cubes. I like it. But I prefer the Pioneer.

[@renceonmc681]

Whats the sizw of the magnet on the ball?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

3x1mm I think

[@renceonmc681]

@@OlgaFyodorova thankss ive been wanting to add magcore to my standard since it also has a ballcore

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@renceonmc681 Oh, they updated the Standard too? You'll have some corner feet magnet attachments though.

[@renceonmc681]

They have the moyu style thingy where theres a Circular thing in the foot to put magnets on

[@toantran.07]

Can the new core install old pieces???

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Yes.

[@davidjldr8249]

When i was solving my tv3 it exploded but it came with ballcore and im planning to get a new one

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Why not fix this one? You don't even have to take the entire core apart if it's one or two opposing rods.

[@davidjldr8249]

​@@OlgaFyodorovathe rod broked

[@pacjosephnovabos8765]

how durable the new core?just curious because im afraid it will break when drop on the floor

[@OlgaFyodorova]

The complaints about the core breaking have declined since the core update, from what I know.

[@fareskhaled4116]

I want to get one but I heard alot that it breaks is that true?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Never broke for me, but yeah, Tv3 is one of the most fragile cubes.

[@hamberq]

it does... one rod got broken and now I need a repacement of the entire cube because no replacement parts are available.

[@fr5582]

Подскажи пожалуйста, а можно как-то сделать автодоворот граней на на этом кубе?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Так он есть, просто не такой выраженный, как на ганах. Если не замедлять куб чересчур смазкой, то он прекрасно доворачивает, но при этом магниты не ощущаются слишком сильными. По сути, для более заметного автодоворота нужны более сильные магниты + минимальное трение граней. Это просто некомфортно в сборках. Неприятно собирать, когда куб дергается в руках из-за очень сильных магнитов. Поэтому я не очень люблю ганы. На них хочется крутить побыстрее, чтобы не чувствовать этих дерганий, и весь лукахед летит к чертям.

[@fr5582]

@@OlgaFyodorova Спасибо большое )

[@gryphey]

I have the older version of the v3. Does the ball core feel better than the original

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Totally the same.

[@TheKamileq]

Where I can buy core?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

The Cubicle used to sold them, I don't know about any other stores that sell replacement cores for the Tornado v3.

[@TheKamileq]

Thanks, you save my life!

[@DavidRaquel-wx6cs]

Is The new core fragile or not?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

It's ok, but the Tornado is overall more fragile than most cubes. I've had a few and they all have been fine, but it's the most returned cube according to SCS.

[@flaculus]

Do you have ys3m, if you do can you do a alignment vid on it like you did with the rs3m super?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

I will get it soon and will most likely make a video about its auto alignment (or lack thereof). Stay tuned ;)

[@flaculus]

@@OlgaFyodorova thx, and btw do u think 2x4 magnets would work with rs3m mod?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@flaculus 2mm won't fit.

[@flaculus]

@@OlgaFyodorova oh ok

[@mikoact4071]

Hey, great video! Can I ask where did you buy that cube with an upgraded core?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Hey! I bought it on AliExpress, AirCube store.

[@xChase3800x]

@@OlgaFyodorova i have the old pioneer since i bought it right when it came out, is there anywhere i can buy just the ballcore and put it in my pioneer?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@xChase3800x The Cubicle, for example. Why do you want a ball core, is your old core broken?

[@Sanchopu495]

​@@OlgaFyodorova where exactly did you order I can't find it

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@Sanchopu495 any aliexpress store would do

[@FARELCUBER]

Is the standard version have transparent core too?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

I think so, but can't be 100% sure.

[@luigi695]

which store did you buy it from?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

AirCube Store on AliExpress. I think most stores have the updated core by now.

[@luigi695]

@@OlgaFyodorova ok thx for letting me know, also is the core of the flagship version updated too?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@luigi695 yes

[@ИльдарСафиулов-ы3я]

В декабре себе купил торнадо пионер версию,отличный куб,но мне Gan все же нравится больше…

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Мне Gan что-то совсем уже не нравится. Одни локапы на пустом месте.

[@M1CSGO]

mine clear core stem broke in half and th eother half is stuck in there so i had to buy a new pioneer core

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Yeah, unfortunately, it happens.

[@GiyuT0mioka877]

Did the flagship core get updated too?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Yes

[@GiyuT0mioka877]

Thanks for the reply​@@OlgaFyodorova

[@Mati1242]

Привет. Получается если я сейчас куплю Торнадо v3 то скорее всего он будет с новым крестом? Это была единственная вещь которая останавливала меня перед покупкой этой версии, значит круст с винтами, которые в принципе невозможно одинаково ровно отрегулировать по сравнению с вот второй версией где винтов как таковых не было.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

В старой версии винты не надо трогать, там же такая же цифровая настройка. Но старые крестовины у многих ломались. Если будешь заказывать в России, то смотри отзывы или задай вопрос продавцу - у многих еще старая версия. С Алиэкспресса скорее всего новая версия будет. Я заказывала из Aircube Store - новая крестовина.

[@Mati1242]

@@OlgaFyodorova Какой быстрый отзыв) Спасибо и удачи в развитии канала, у тебя классный контент, особенно интересно было посмотреть ролики про UV coating.

[@zxuuumi5420]

is the flagship version have same core?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Yes.

[@zxuuumi5420]

@@OlgaFyodorova how about the standard ver, it have srew?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@zxuuumi5420 I’m not sure. I never heard of an updated core in the standard version, and the ball core doesn’t make sense, so maybe it’s the same old core

[@cubejunkie1906]

Great video oli. I’m sure many of us were wondering how this was put together. I might actually get one now that they updated the core. Did you feel any difference in performance or turning feel between the two versions?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Thanks. No, I don't feel any difference in feel or performance. They both perform great. I also don't recommend taking all this apart unless you have to for some reason. I don't remember, you don't have any Tornado v3? If not, get one, it's amazing!

[@cubejunkie1906]

@@OlgaFyodorova No problem! I don’t have any Tornados whatsoever haha (Moyu fanboy alert) and I’m going back and forward between the WRM lite and the WRM 2020 as my main (didn’t like the purplev so much). In any case I‘m curious to try out magnetic-cores once and for all and this seems like a good first step into that world. I agree that there’s no real benefit to taking this apart since it doesn’t seem to need core lubing. Still it’s very confidence-inspiring to see how it’s put together. I hate having a black box where you don’t know how things work, if it’s super fragile or not, etc.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@cubejunkie1906 Gan cubes have the most prominent core magnets, but for a WRM lover, I certainly recommend the Tornado Pioneer. The core magnets are not as intrusive as in Gan cubes, and the cube is really fluid.

[@Nehimsupacac]

Great video, it's cool to see how everything works, but hopefully I never have to see the interior of mine lol. I'm curious about how the spring versions tensioning system work because the misalignment system doesn't translate at all to a spring if I'm understanding correctly (or do the magnets both misalign and separate?).

[@Nehimsupacac]

Also, are the core magnets slightly stronger, is the transparent ball bigger than the previous version's core? It bothers me a little feeling the contact between corners and core tbh. I put some lube directly on the magnet/plastic pieces of the corners and it made it a bit better.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

No, the spring adjustment system works like in every other cube - it compresses the spring. The parts are a bit different and are transparent.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@Nehimsupacac Huh, I didn't notice any difference in magnet strength, and the corners didn't touch the core in my friend's cube. Unfortunately, I didn't compare the core sizes, and now it's too late because I sent the cube to my friend.

[@snapbear_mc2355]

I dropped my tornado x man v3 pioneer and just the rods came off rest 4 rods were in their position idk how to fix just those two seperately tho ;-;

[@snapbear_mc2355]

SHould i remove the core ans fix it or is there another way ?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@snapbear_mc2355 Take one rod that fell out. Push it in, turn 90°, pull out to fix. Repeat with the other one.

[@snapbear_mc2355]

Ohok tysm

[@snapbear_mc2355]

It worked :)

[@farheenhabiba8872]

OMG , Thank you so much this vedio showed me how to Fix my cube , thank you thank thank you so much or else its would be 46 dollars down the drain. 😀😀😀😀😀😀🤟

[@OlgaFyodorova]

You're welcome :) Cubicle has a video with an easier fixing procedure.

[@iangaelpachecorosas196]

Gracias me ayudaste mucho

[@JaydenCheung810]

How can I get it

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Most stores sell Tornadoes with the updated core, but you can't be sure 100%. Email your favorite store, I guess.

[@taigo5766]

ahhh thats why my tornado has a ball core

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Yes :)

[@taigo5766]

@@OlgaFyodorova I thought we moved away from that years ago

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@taigo5766 Years ago, ball cores were totally different.

[@taigo5766]

@@OlgaFyodorova guess we didn't return to an old standard then

[@thebui916]

What screwdriver did you use to unscrew the ball core? The screws look extremely small, I'm a little scared to buy a screwdriver that's too big... Also, my core has a weird issue where even if the plastic screw is locked into place, if I push on it with a little strength, it can still fall deep into the core. It only happens to two of the screws though, the rest don't fall into the core even if I push really hard. I was wondering if you experienced this as well.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Just a little Philips screwdriver I had at home. Can't advise on brands, sorry. Why do you have to take the core apart at all? It's really tedious to put everything back together. I think it's normal. I never tried pushing the rods in (just to avoid the hassle of fixing that), but from the Cubicle help video, that's how you fix a rod that fell out. Insert it, turn it, pull at it to fix.

[@thebui916]

@@OlgaFyodorova I essentially wanted to take apart and reattach all of the pieces of the core as you did in the video to see if the rods would truly lock into place after doing it that way. I've seen that Cubicle video as well, and using that method my rods don't come out of the core, so they're "locked in" in that sense. However, they still fall into the core, sometimes when I use force, sometimes naturally. I normally wouldn't be concerned about that, but I found that my cube always catches and locks up during solves specifically on the faces with the messed up screws.

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@thebui916 Interesting. I never had that in solves. Best of luck with fixing this issue!

[@thebui916]

@@OlgaFyodorova Thanks!

[@oblivionofyou5956]

Ball core better than the standard one? should i buy ball core or standart?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

For Tornado v3, there is Standard (no core magnets), Flagship (core magnets and springs) and Pioneer (core magnets and maglev). Get Flagship or Pioneer. Standard is worse.

[@oblivionofyou5956]

@@OlgaFyodorova i meant, new ball core in pioneer better than the old one? i shoul buy new core?

[@OlgaFyodorova]

@@oblivionofyou5956 No, there's no difference. The new core is sturdier, but if you have an older revision of the cube with the older core, just keep using it, it's the same thing.

[@oblivionofyou5956]

@@OlgaFyodorova Thanks

[@caleb-xyz]

cant wait for the gan 13 ball core lol

[@OlgaFyodorova]

I can't wait for my Gan 12 UI FreePlay... also ball core lol

[@BilalBilalcute]

Thanks bro 👍👍👍👍👍👍😍😍😘😘😘😘😘👍👍

[@Red_Dead_Dad]

Ive been torn between to gan m pro and this one. I cant tell you how many videos ive watched. Obviously the price difference effects my decision

[@OlgaFyodorova]

Nah, Tornado is much better and easier to adjust and set up.

[@gryphey]

The gan m pro is a good cube, but the tornado v3 is so much more stable, smooth and quite compared to the gan. Plus it’s so much cheaper

[@Red_Dead_Dad]

@@gryphey I got the tornado. I love it

[@Adam-wt5id]

So it’s really a tornado v3 v2

[@Izuna._.]

rip my uv pioneer

[@balintgalambos691]

I think yours not broken, just one axel fell off. You can put that back.

[@EasonEasonChen]

Oh my Max Park mine just broke🥲