Nobody Knows Where This Kingdom Hearts Character Went..

[@leonoliveira8652]

IF Ava is Kairi's Grandma, that means her keyblade should be somewhere in Radiant Garden, and someone finding that would be wild. There's also the point that with Laurian and Elrena (that's her name, right?) returning, if they start talking about the masters then she's bound to come back in some way, shape or form - be it Kairi remembering her as her grandma, be it her body returning because people remember her. Obviously, we need something from her for that to work - but if the "grandma is Ava" theory is right, the one item we need might be, again, in Radiant Garden.

[@Star-eg3qt]

Yeah you got the names right also it would make sense if she was Kairi’s grandma

[@dustinnnnorrisss8539]

To further support that theory, if you remember in Kingdom Hearts 1, Sora has a flashback/sees a memory of Kairi and an old woman inside the library of Radiant Garden talking about the light, and darkness, and how darkness came to be etc. It would make even more sense that Ava is related to Kairi because there's nothing that links Kairi to Radiant Garden other than Aqua

[@vbbrothers]

she basically did a demyx and just phased out of existence after a KH game

[@ProdigyxCD]

Demyx did kind of do that too after KH3 lol, timeline wise though Ava is just GONE GONE for the past 100s of years.

[@evanroberts5045]

@@ProdigyxCDshe is already dead, she already completed her mission.

[@EdwardScurry-f8d]

I believe she might be a mystery wild card for something if not some mystery in a way that helps the others but it will shock everybody for why she disappeared and why she had to go away and eventually returne🤔☝️🤞

[@Star-eg3qt]

@@EdwardScurry-f8dI like to think that she’s still alive and might ally herself with the guardians of light

[@YourMajestyJaylene]

My theory is that Ava's memories of the Union Leaders are what brought them into the current timeline, and that purposely excluding her from the reunion of the other Foretellers at the end of KH3, is indicative of another side to this story that has yet to be told - Ava's perspective. With Ephemer never really time travelling, Strelitzia is dead, and Brain being "recalled" to Scala already. Ava would only be able to bring Lauriam and Skuld into the current epoch as the 5 Union Leaders that the MoM’s wanted to use as sacrifices to house 5 of the 13 Darknesses. Lauriam himself would be able to recall Elrena and Ventus, bringing them in at around the same time, though what the mediums were - the equivalent to Brain's hat - is a mystery. That, or Ava remembers all of the Dandelions (she did recruit them after all) and filled in the blanks with whoever she thought were best in slot; using their experience as Dandelions "reliving their lives" as lux-harvesters to manifest them in the worlds they left an impression on the most acting as the required medium. This might go on to explain why Lauriam and Elrena woke up in different locations, because Ava went from world to world to accomplish this, as well as Ventus who arrives last and is approached by an unknown figure, possibly Ava or Luxu.

[@UnlikeMike0]

I think she is on a mission with Luxu and that mission is to "save Sora". I also believe Sora is the True Dandelion and she figured out somehow Sora would end up in Quadratum so she ends up leaving reality for Quadratum where she will recruit Yozora to help save Sora. My guess maybe strelitzia is the Waypoint for Ava to get into Quadratum.

[@adammorin2955]

I doubt luxu is working with ava if she’s against the master

[@mndfst9433]

​@@adammorin2955 Don't forget, the Master already dubbed Luxu as the Traitor. It's not completely impossible. He could be planning something.

[@soragamma25]

I've just thought about it for awhile, and I'm pretty sure that Ava did the same as Sora, she used the power of waking and missed used it, it's the same as the Master of masters and it makes sense, she's very kind and caring, but during the battle she seemed VERY cold even though she recognizes the player being the person that one of her dandelion's wanted to join them, so it's very likely that the person we see with Sora is Ava having disappeared trying to change things to get a better outcome.

[@HeyShotgun]

You know you could say her story is … Another Side ,Another Story ,possibly a Deep Dive .

[@captain_saus]

I have a gut feeling luxu isn't the hooded figure with MoM in quadratum, I think it's ava, possibly even in Stella's body

[@ProdigyxCD]

Huh?

[@mndfst9433]

So, essentially, you think the Nameless Star was refering to Ava as the one who replaced her? What brings you to that idea?

[@ChaiTea09]

I agree with the whole ending part. Gula is gonna probably betray the rest of the group first and might try to help the heros because they are a sign of Avas legacy. He loved her, no one is changing my mind abt that, and since love, both platonic and romantic, is such a big deal in this series, I feel like Gula's love for Ava, and her not returning with everyone else, will cause a fracture between him and the rest of the group. Gula also reminds me a lot of Roxas, and Roxas loved Xion and wanted her back, and fought so hard to get her back. I feel like Gula will do the same thing, probably right towards the end, like at the end of 358. The foretellers are parallels of some of the strongest keyblade wielders right now. Aqua and Terra (invi and aced) Ira (probably riku) ava (probably sora). Idk, those are just my thoughts

[@TheGoodWitchLuz06]

Ohh you might be onto something

[@adammorin2955]

Actually ava is kiari

[@Champ095]

They only give mentions about her I think in the reports section I think was in KH3 were Lea and Isa met a girl who was in ansem's dungeon or something and the person that was watching her happened to be Braig. Also mentions the 2 would go back to help her but the mysterious girl disappeared and had the name X due to amnesia

[@brandondiaz9657]

Given how much beef Ava has with Luxu and the Master, it would probably make sense for her not to show up to the Keyblade Graveyard and do her own thing. The next question lies within what that thing she's doing is. Will it benefit the Guardians of Light or be a hindrance? Who's she targeting? Is Luxu aware of her next move and planning in advance?

[@TheRealJohnnyHendo]

I still think Ava is Subject X and Skuld is Xehanort's mom or ancestor. Subject X mentioned 4 friends. Skuld didn't have 4 friends, she had 5. Ephemer, Brain, Ven, Lauriam, AND The Player. Ava had Ira, Invi, Gula, and Aced. You could argue Luxu and the Master, but the Master was just that, her Master. And Luxu and her had a severe falling out right before the Keyblade War. If she got sent forward in time and forgot most of her memories, but still remembers her friends then I imagine Luxu would no longer be counted among them. And Xehanort's mom looks a lot like Skuld. Nomura started mentioning bloodlines during the time when Dark Road was coming out. Why would Xehanort's mom look like Skuld if she isn't Skuld herself or one of Skuld's descendents? A lot of people have been saying that Xehanort's mom might just be related to Skuld in some other way. Like what? Shes the descendant of Skuld's 2nd cousin once removed? I know Kingdom Hearts likes to get weird, but that seems like too much of real life level of weird that it just doesn't seem like that would be the case. Some say that Xehanort is already related to Ephemer, why and how could he related to both? For one, Ephemer and Skuld feel like a pairing all throughout Union X. Secondly, even Skuld didn't actually get with Ephemer himself because time travel sent her further in time, she could have gotten with one of his descendants. And either had Xehanort herself or one of her descendants had Xehanort therefore making Xehanort related to both Skuld and Ephemer and explaining why Xehanort's mom looks like Skuld.

[@blacksunday7205]

I have reason to believe that Ava was abducted by the Master of Masters and became a Foreteller because of her potential and ability. After Luxu and Ava learned of their fates, and Luxu defeated her in the Keyblade War. Then out of the goodness of his heart, Luxu sent Ava home, to live the life that was nearly taken away from her. Which world Ava is really from? Nobody knows.

[@adammorin2955]

She never ‘loses’ and luxu never wins or loses. The winner or outcome was never even shown or talked about. The white coat at the end union x could be ava for all we know

[@SuperPandaKisser]

My head cannon has always been that Ava somehow is inside or was inside of Kairi's heart, and that is why the interest in experimenting on her as a child. I believe that the appearance of Namine is the appearance of Ava. Buttt i can't even begin to explain why i think that 😅

[@Ramxenoc]

Have always just assumed she was Kairi's grandma, but that's the more depressing answer for me. Luxu probably knows where she is, but i've hoped she returns

[@NicoTreecko]

If Ava is in Quadratum, imagine if she was the big bad at the end of the Verum Rex game the Yozora has to face. To be a hero to her realm, Ava had to become the villain of another.

[@OzomaLp]

Against what most people think, I think Subject X is Ava. She time travelled the same way as the fortellers and was released in the end of BBS time instead of 10 years later. Since Luxu didn't have the Master's Keyblade at this point she does not remember her past because of the missing medium and became Subject X. Later she was released from Luxu with the Mission to create some Nobodies for the Organization XIII. Since every Nobody (in the Organization) we saw so far was made with the help of a Keyblade, I think this could be a core requirement to create a person looking Nobody. She made Elrena and Lauriam into Nobodies since they were Dandelions and then was going to Quadratum and made Luxord a Nobody. Since then she is stuck over there. But after he got recompleted the first time Luxord asked her to make him a Nobody again to figure out what Luxu is planning. Since Ava is stuck in Quadratum she cannot come to the gathering in KH3 and it would fit in the quote from Luxu.

[@nachideku]

Ava is Stella. Told Yozora to save Sora

[@sh4d0wfl4re]

I still hold to my theory that Ava intentionally let Darkness take over her body as Dark Ava, so that she could sleep within Vanitas' heart and reach the future. That in the Keyblade War it was still Dark Ava fighting instead of Ava and when Dark Ava fell, she went inside Ven's heart and was slowly reformed into Vanitas, Ava's chosen dark vessel went into the future within their chosen light vessel. Ava is now waiting to be awakened within Vanitas/Ven's inner Darkness

[@adammorin2955]

That would make no sense considering that’s what the masters plan is

[@sh4d0wfl4re]

@ Correct. Ava herself falling to darkness would neither be part of the Master’s plan not directly against them. However, she herself stated that her only rebellion against the Master’s plan was in changing whom she would give the Book of Prophecy amongst the new Union Leaders. So “not going against the Master’s Plan” is actually a point towards this theory being consistent with Ava’s motives

[@adammorin2955]

@@sh4d0wfl4re i still doubt it considering that she knew the masters plans and she was always the one to help the group and try to make things calmer. It would go against everything that she stands for.

[@DeafSavage]

Something I thought of when I think of Ava disappearing without a trace, the KH4 trailer mentioned “the lost master” arc. At first I thought it talked about the MoM, but it could also mean the same for Master Ava, too. She is literally nowhere to be found, as we know that the MoM is in Quadrantum. Then, Kairi COULD also be Ava herself, I say that with a slight doubt because it’s strange how Kairi was sent to DI by Young Xehanort, there’s a lot of missing links (pun intended 100%) here.

[@johnbzn6508]

This is great

[@UnVelius]

Didn't you post this like a few days ago?

[@ProdigyxCD]

No I posted this last night but there was a audio error so i took it down within 30m and i decided to reupload in the morning.

[@fadafafa29]

All i need is chain of memories 2. The story will focus on ventus past memories and dandelions

[@princetushay]

🤔 Nomura got alot of catching up to do with all these characters and cutscenes for the ones we haven't seen yet. It's impossible to put everything into KH4 if its gonna be coming to a end

[@joshz2491]

It’s the beginning of the end not actually the end.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, I wonder if we’ll get to see the Foretellers’ Faces at any point?

[@deggyG]

I’m thinking the box is either connected to the Master and the foretellers as their waypoint with Luxu having the memories and the box containing some essence that allows the others to return or their keyblades were there at the graveyard and they were summoned back that way. I’m kind of hoping the box is just a world in which the Master created. It’s his way to slip in and out of reality. He believed it was his trump card to save his students from losing their lives with the willful darkness within each of them but it didn’t work out in the end. So, now Sora must be used for some reason. As long as the MoM isn’t Sora, and is actually an original character with a face we’ve never seen so he can truly be his own antagonist I will be happy with the series, as I’m worried that Nomura won’t stay on for a whole other full trilogy, however I do feel that’s the amount of games needed to end Kingdom Hearts’ story perfectly, devoting the same amount of time to the Master and Darkness as we got with their puppet Xehanort

[@adammorin2955]

A new trilogy with 5 side games 2 phone games and one game that is Japanese only

[@deggyG]

@ I’d love a couple more side games, such as Verum Rex to tell the tale of Yozora seen in Toy Box. However I truly don’t want to deal with anymore mobile games after Missing Link. I just Square makes the right decision and leaves the release until the game is complete. The gacha aspect of the games will ruin KH if anymore past Missing Link have that aspect… I think they somewhat realized it a bit with Dark Road needing to be an offline game.

[@bbro43]

I wonder if Ava is with MoM in Quadratum. Like if this next arc will have 3 sides. MoM with Ava, Luxu w the other fortellers, and our Gaurdians of Light.

[@BillyAnselmo]

Actually if you see the new game chess game in kh3 we see all the foreteller emblem as chess pieces with master of master and luxu.

[@Numba003]

With Nomura, who knows? Lol. I'm super excited to find out, though! I hope Missing Link or kh4 get some news soon! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)

[@nathantaylor1618]

if "the player" can be reincarnated to someone so could anyone, she could be sora..

[@jeffdcgamer1077]

Since Sora will be fighting the 7 strongest darkness hint hint the black chess pieces there’s A chance Ava will return in some type of form

[@liruenth]

Well... It could of course be Strelitzia but we do know about 1 girl who wound up in Radiant Garden and was taken into the research facility leading Isa and Lea to follow after to attempt to free her. Since Strelitzia ended up in Quadratum it could be due to the experiments on her at Radiant Garden going wrong or due to her actual death in unchained-x 🤷‍♂My assumption is that that was actually Ava though. (err guess it could be Skuld since we don't know where she ended up either)

[@adammorin2955]

Subject X is 1000% Skuld. It has so many hints and just things that scream Skuld and not ava

[@cloud552000]

Allso could be soras mom as well

[@MrVinnysWorld]

What if Ava is not Kairi's grandma but instead Sora's mom....the both just vanish with no trace. I have no other links

[@CodyOGoins]

Dude, call me crazy... but I just had a weird thought..... This whole time, we think Kairi or Kairi's grandmother is really Ava (some think this, not all). When, in fact, what if Ava is really Namine? Wait a minute, let me cook (in my Glorilla Voice 🤣💀). Now, Kairi is a "Princess of Heart." Meaning, she is very strong at heart, magically strong, etc. Well, with that said, what if Namine did some sort of...."trick" like Ventus did. But, to Kairi 👁👁🤌🏽🤌🏽 You're thinking, "How?" Ava would technically be 1,000,000 years old compared to Kairi. Yeah, yeah, whatever 😏 lmfao Well, there is actually a way. And, it's really dope. Do you know Kairi's necklace? 📿⚪️ That's how 👁👁🤌🏽🤌🏽 Remember,....in Birth by Sleep Aqua preformed not only the the "Bequeathing of The Keyblade" to Kairi, but she also "put magic" on Kairi's Necklace when she was a little girl. What if, by doing this, it unlocked the necklace, allowing Namine' a.k.a. Ava to be released? Remember, Aqua said she casted a "Protective Spell" on her necklace? What if this "so-called protection" was Ava/Namine's heart within the necklace!? I believe one of Kairi's ancestors, possibly her grandmother, was in the world of Missing Link. During this time, it could be possible that Ava "HID" her heart inside the necklace during the events of the game? That would be super mindblowing! I mean, think about it, Namine' was labeled a "Witch" by the Organization due to her power to change memories. What if this was one of Ava's powers? Changing memories!? Come on! That a SUPER STRONG a__ power, man. 👁👁 Also, like Roxas, Namine has blonde hair. And, she sports a white night gown. Think about this.....Roxas was Blonde 👱🏻‍♂️ and looked just like Ventus due to Ventus being in Sora's heart "HIDING" unbeknownst to Sora. Now, imagine the same thing with Kairi.... Why does Namine have blonde hair? 👱🏻‍♀️ Wouldn't she look EXACTLY like Kairi from head to toe? I mean, Laurium looks just like Marluxia. Larxene looks just like Elrena. Etc., Etc. Thus, that leaves only one option. I don't give 2 F__KS WHAT ANYONE SAYS, Ava is in Kairi's Necklace AND/OR Heart 💖. She has to be! Well, sorry for such a long post. I just wanted to get this out after watching this video. It's a very interesting theory.

[@drdca8263]

It looks like you posted this twice?

[@domcarrasquillo2314]

Ephemers sora. Kiaris skuld. Riku is the master of masters. Let's debate

[@johnwaarwick3395]

I’m starting to think Ava is kyrie