RANKING EVERY NBA LEGEND'S ROOKIE SEASON

[@alphabrother6823]

Should be noted that rookies back in the day had to complete college before coming into the NBA. Kareem and MJ averaging 28ppg their rookie year is different than Kobe and LeBron being drafted out of high school

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

Faxx

[@NickScaglione-i4d]

Same applies for the older guys if they had nba development younger they could’ve been even better

[@alphabrother6823]

@@NickScaglione-i4d I agree

[@bjray9778]

Kinda not really because Michael Carter Williams also spent 4 years in college and we see how that turned out either you can play or you can’t (even if he did win rookie of the year😂)

[@alphabrother6823]

@@bjray9778 could not have missed the point more if you tried

[@voss9933]

21pts 12rbs 2.5blks with 55%FG Played all 82 games & most teams weren’t putting up 100pts in a game. Don’t you dare question Timmy Duncan like that

[@testimonyenitan1799]

AND HE WAS FIRST TEAM ALL NBA

[@B4dafam]

Grading Wemby's rookie season without mentioning blocks is crazy

[@14leonardo]

and steals

[@slinkybeans2442]

Wemby fye 🔥🔥🔥

[@kxngmuzikig2417]

When Dirk came in, the league didn't know what to do with him. it was still when a center stayed in the paint and the PF was a smaller center. Dirks style didn't translate back then, making him get less minutes and no efficiency

[@theman9048]

Dirk had to learn how to be effective in the league

[@alexsmith3598]

Yeah, it's crazy that people are scared to coach. Like if you have a tall player that can shoot, make him get in the paint for what? Like it's easier shots, but if the guy is weak especially compared to the competition inside, let him shoot. Just weird that like you don't encourage players to be their own player, everybody has to do the same things. All SGs would run around screens and black hole, PGs would stand at the top and watch actions, PF and C would screen or low block. Just feels like no coaching if every player is demanded to do the same thing.

[@goreyboyz8564]

@@alexsmith3598cause there’s 100 big men that think their 6’2. Be a big man first then show some outside skill

[@wallaceiseasy3459]

The Ausar slander is so weird from Gil considering Ausar is a Great defender. Why do people only care bout offense

[@cjmoss51]

Monety and highlights. Its the same reason ALOT of dudes dont make it. Incredible defenders only make the HOF if they are scorerers first. Gotta do it all.

[@remedy2953]

Wilt really was jus a MyPlayer his rookie season 😭😭

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

there was 8-17 teams when wilt played and out of this list let me know when you see a bad center mind you these are their barefoot heights, in the modern NBA you would add 1-2 inches to their height, as players have been measured in their shoes only after 1977) C-Bill Russell: 6’10” HOF (143 games played in 9 seasons) C-Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" HOF(27 games played in 4 seasons) C-Willis Reed: 6,10” HOF(72 games played in 8 seasons) C-Walt Bellamy: 6'11" HOF(100 games played in 11 seasons) C-Artis Gilmore: 7'2" HOF C-Bob Lanier: 6'11" HOF(17 games played in 3 seasons) C-Nate Thurmond: 6'11" HOF(47 games played in 4 seasons) C-Bob McAdoo: 6’10” HOF (5 games played in 1 season) C-Elvin Hayes:6’9 “ HOF (22 games played in 4 seasons) (Wes Unseld is also a HOF center but he is 6’9) (26 times in 5 seasons) (Dave Cowens is also a HOF Center/Forward but he is 6”9)(17 games played in 3 seasons) (Connie Hawkins is also a HOF Forward/ center but he is 6”9)(31 games played in 4 seasons)

[@KurtyAnderson]

@@JohnnyRodgers3facts people calling those guys plumbers when they athletic freaks

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

@@KurtyAnderson bill Russell imo is more athletic than giannis ..is giannis stronger(probably) but everything else is in Russells favor

[@ankhboldcrain9954]

Eras also mean a lot, Duncan averaging the same stats as Hakeem is significantly more impressive because of pace of play.

[@aleemsmith34]

Having a podcast about basketball and not knowing about Kevin Mchale is crazy

[@lovekeego]

perfect timing, jus finished cooking and needed sum to watch

[@SuperJoshuaWorld64]

Same just cooked up some meth

[@lookatcodyman654]

​@@SuperJoshuaWorld64You like me fr

[@inefekt]

Tim Duncan had one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time. All NBA 1st Team, All Defense 2nd Team, All Star & top five in MVP voting.

[@anildre4512]

Westbrook not making the list as an arguably too 4 pg but Chris Paul and Nash did is wild

[@mattsanchez3379]

Wilt having 40 an 30 is crazy makes u think abt how he not the nba leading scorer

[@Klegend1750]

He was before Kareem That’s something I guess.

[@eVght2k]

​@@Klegend1750 he willingly stopped scoring to better the team aspect of his game

[@quennygreen]

He also only played 14 seasons to Kareem’s 21

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

there was 8-17 teams when wilt played and out of this list let me know when you see a bad center mind you these are their barefoot heights, in the modern NBA you would add 1-2 inches to their height, as players have been measured in their shoes only after 1977) C-Bill Russell: 6’10” HOF (143 games played in 9 seasons) C-Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" HOF(27 games played in 4 seasons) C-Willis Reed: 6,10” HOF(72 games played in 8 seasons) C-Walt Bellamy: 6'11" HOF(100 games played in 11 seasons) C-Artis Gilmore: 7'2" HOF C-Bob Lanier: 6'11" HOF(17 games played in 3 seasons) C-Nate Thurmond: 6'11" HOF(47 games played in 4 seasons) C-Bob McAdoo: 6’10” HOF (5 games played in 1 season) C-Elvin Hayes:6’9 “ HOF (22 games played in 4 seasons) (Wes Unseld is also a HOF center but he is 6’9) (26 times in 5 seasons) (Dave Cowens is also a HOF Center/Forward but he is 6”9)(17 games played in 3 seasons) (Connie Hawkins is also a HOF Forward/ center but he is 6”9)(31 games played in 4 seasons)

[@paquinraino8180]

@@JohnnyRodgers3 Bill Russell was 6'9 not 6'10 and Unseld was 6'7

[@zazathree9541]

Gil was talking about his age, I even was like Gil wtf you avg like 11 but at the same age Ausar is right now, Gil was averaging 21

[@kyrakyle992]

Alex English should’ve been in the Ausur tier, but it wasn’t entirely his fault. He got drafted by the Bucks who had a coach that refused to play rookies and insisted that everyone play defense. English was not a good defender. The two butted heads over the next couple of years so much that English asked to be traded, and the Bucks sent him to the Pacers. The sad thing was that Moncrief and English were on the same team. They could’ve been like Dame and Jimmy Butler. Ugh!

[@chrisguevara]

Larry Bird turned the franchise around. Gotta check the team record the season before he arrived. David Robinson also turned the franchise around too. Check the records!!!

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

Damn y'all didn't even put bird in the thumbnail

[@shoreZ]

bozo

[@malrulesall9669]

Decent list 👌🏾

[@ThatDudeD3Z]

6:47 my first time seeing or finding out about Curry was in 2K12 MyPlayer. It was me, Monta Ellis, and Steph, nigga made everything 😭 he came up and I’m like “oh.. makes sense” 😂

[@connerwittig9288]

Ts is so niche. We power scaling NBA rookie seasons.

[@SayBrax]

Some light music in the background would be fye for videos like this

[@skinnymelo]

No Harden, Russ, Melo, Giannis, Jokic, Tmac on a top 50 players list but we ranking Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Kevin Mchale, Alex English, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, and mfs from when there was no color on here? Guy who made this is a very nasty individual.

[@cjmoss51]

These are HoF players' rookie seasons being ranked. TMac is the only one on that list thats in the HoF. Hopefully they can run this shit back when the rest of the names you mentioned make it in there.

[@skinnymelo]

@@cjmoss51 They got Lebron, KD, Curry, CP on here. Maybe the reason Giannis and Jokic not on here is cause of what you said but as for the others it’s just that the guy making the list, not Solz or Sage, didn’t think they were top 50 players which I just found sort of funny considering some of the names that are up there.

[@SpiritSquadMTG]

I will literally always approve MAXIMUM Karl Malone slander. Police tier for sure.

[@B4rry16]

Magic is best ngl

[@kennethjr2717]

Nah the BIG O IS BETTA

[@2phonebabymo]

lock his ahhh up 💀

[@sirmcclapington6774]

There has not been a single stretch where Wemby averaged 14 🤣🤣

[@NowayTino]

Wilt is number 1.

[@NowayTino]

Mvp, Roty, woulda been DPOY, woulda been Allnba1st and defensive 1st easily

[@Monkupnext]

@@NowayTinoBill Russell?

[@arexyouxepicxenough]

@@Monkupnext stacked team merchant type shit

[@Monkupnext]

@@arexyouxepicxenough I’m talking about dpoy that’s a player reward and bill’s teams weren’t that much better than wilts

[@NowayTino]

@@Monkupnext Bill teams were 10x the team wilts were 😭 fraudulent 11 hall of famers

[@thefearoffearitself8516]

LeBrons shooting averages were shit in his rookie year 40% fg under 30% from 3

[@kyrieirving4583]

Came outta highschool…

[@miracle053]

I love you guys

[@user-kj6be8sf3v]

NAAAAH, KEVIN DURANT AND LEBRON HAD LITERALLY SIMILAR STATS, THE HATE IS REAL!

[@briizy300]

Will solz have Tim Duncan player of 2024

[@puncho8799]

The amount of excuses y’all trying to make for LeBron is crazy 🤣

[@kb4231]

😂 Bro what was Gilbert Arenas talking about?

[@cjmoss51]

Gil got alot of mouth for a man that destroyed all his potnetial. Its only in this media landscape that people are listening to him.

[@zackrasphodos.2305]

What’s funny to me is that though yes LBJ should be counted as the best rookie to join the league The two mj’s are just hillarious how good their rookie seasons are. Blud Magic had Kareem, but if he did not play like that in the playoffs then they are absolutely baked. Meanwhile we have Jeffrey over here who AVERAGED 28 POINTS ON 82 GAMES WITH 2.4 STEALS WHILE ALSO ELEVATING HIS SCORING UP BY 1 POINT IN THE PLAYOFFS Like bruh… I kinda want rookies nowadays to come in on their 20s BECAUSE HOLY CRAP IMAGINE VIK COMING IN AS A 21 YEAR OLD my god. (Btw free Vik, I hate the Point Sohan bs that pop has cooking)

[@calw2358]

trolling loki not funny it's obvious when he doing it I dont think anyone is being faked out, he just predends to be slightly wrong and he like tries to telegraph it just dont get it.

[@newpancakeman]

We cant use Gil clips no more, bro was openly racist as helllllllll

[@devonpeterson471]

1.tim Duncan

[@devonpeterson471]

Or magic

[@cjmoss51]

Put some respeck on Wes Unseld name. That man is NOT white.

[@elijahgleaves5018]

I think it would be a lot better if yall just didn't rank anyone who didn't play in the three point Era. No one really cares about segregation/ civil right movement hoops.

[@joshuabile4657]

Guys, Amp divorce court 2 dropped tell sage and benji to react to it.

[@acesimmons1531]

The way ya overrate mj scoring ability is hilarious

[@rebirthofanaverage2kmobplay]

Better than Lebron and didn’t rely on 3s

[@acesimmons1531]

@@rebirthofanaverage2kmobplay didn’t even mention bron is the mj fan base that insecure

[@rebirthofanaverage2kmobplay]

@@acesimmons1531 Well too bad, you’re making it clearly obvious that you are a Lebron fan.

[@acesimmons1531]

@@rebirthofanaverage2kmobplay a top 50 list and a nameless comment got u pulling ya douche out ur ass bout one person 😂

[@wallaceiseasy3459]

Duncan was all Defense and all nba in his first year. Defense matters Yall didnt include defense for players like Duncan and Russell

[@tejahbk5456]

If you took away Luka’s first 2 years, he’d miss out on a first team all nba + all star season + top 5 player season. He averaged 29/9/9 in his second season and 31/9/10 in the playoffs. He was 3rd in PER at 27.6 only after the two mvp candidates, Giannis and Harden ahead. Also took peak Kawhi and PG to the to the brink in the playoffs on one leg with no support.

[@meatwad42069]

nah i’m ngl that sage take on wemby is aging crazy bad now 😭

[@daxmoney5011]

Magic Johnson S tier he won the chip and finals mvp

[@EllieVelli]

6:34 reminds me of how I found out about Steph. Bro would not miss a single 3 in My Career even as a rookie. Shit use to piss me off but in a few years I completely understood 😂

[@rahjaejohnson]

I think when it comes to a lot of the 2000s rookies it should be taken into account the pace of the game when considering their stats, 16 from wade doesn’t look impressive but era is important

[@Bigedub101]

Exactly people forget after that Lockout season the game was SLOWED DOWN

[@paquinraino8180]

That's their choice to play at that pace, the late 90 - 2010 era is by FAR the slowest in NBA history and really it was the only slowed pace era in NBA history, a real outlier, so yes their stats took a hit from it but nobody forced them to play that slow

[@rahjaejohnson]

@@paquinraino8180 individual players can’t dictate pace, the rules have a much bigger influence on how the game is played

[@itswilbur52]

@@rahjaejohnsonhe’s just yapping

[@goreyboyz8564]

@@paquinraino8180there was run n gun teams. But the average team wasn’t like that

[@cameronjohnson9361]

Mchale was the greatest pf of all time before Duncan entered the league solz as a Celtics fan knowing more about Hondo than mchale is crazy

[@deejay3268]

Makes no sense at all that a Celtics fan doesn't know how to rate Mchale but yet knew what to do with Hondo

[@williamtoad8040]

Wilt, the only player who could say to Jordan, Kobe and Harden “you gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers”

[@kyrakyle992]

I love the added tier for Karl Malone. 🤣

[@Jolteon1989]

Also when Comparing Hakeem and Tim, Hakeems rookie season was in 84 which was way more fast paced than in 1997

[@drodrig1]

I think the 2000s were more top heavy because of a lot of iso scorers in the league taking the majority of the shots

[@cameronjohnson9361]

Tim definitely was taking a bigger percentage of offense than Hakeem because unlike Tim Duncan his costar was just young like him and wasn’t recovering from a career altering injury…yet 😅

[@jop9816]

@@drodrig1Tim Duncan was the second option behind a guy who was 4th among league leaders in usage rate

[@love6ic202]

Facts people expect rookies to be 20-25 points a game like this ain’t mycareer 🤦🏽‍♂️🙄

[@malrulesall9669]

Exactly

[@puncho8799]

Y’all know Jordan the goat that’s why y’all have him in front on the thumbnail 🐐💯

[@voss9933]

Wemby is leading the league in blocks too. HIM

[@Ues2DC]

It’s wild seeing someone brag over and over about not knowing about the topic they’re covering. It’s basically saying don’t take anything I say on it seriously.

[@ArigatoGyroo]

Uh?? They were being honest, Why the hell would you expect a goofy ass channel like this to know about 1950s/60s ball, I'm sorry that them not knowing Bob petit's game hurt your feelings grandpa.

[@akeme25]

I remember everyone was hyping up Tyreke Evans in Steph Curry’s rookie year lol

[@cameronjohnson9361]

Also tbf to Nash he was on a team with the greatest pg depth chart of all time Kevin Johnson Kidd and Nash

[@cameronjohnson9361]

@SOLZandSAGE. how much money to get a ten minute rant on a podcast

[@TheTemper-King]

The average height in the nba has always been around 6’6” to 6’7”. Where did you get centers being 6’4” from? 😭😭

[@calw2358]

ur cooked

[@MrKurtykurt]

The fact both Steph and Lebron scored more points in a season than MJ did his rookie season (2313pts) just once….

[@bolbol2580]

George Gerving is crazy ngl, how you boutta do a legend like that

[@hey_your_boi_mike_here5025]

Next we need a nba legends DPOY rankings

[@gbarberis7402]

You should value winning too for every rookie season

[@TheLazerBird]

These new video are such a zibe. Keep it up SNS

[@ovhoee]

It’s crazy how wemby shit is now like 21/22 pts 13 boards now wit damn near a dpoy ??? Fire asl damn near him if he had a better team for post season success

[@Antreand]

Rank every LEAP year of nba players

[@zachcoggins9018]

4:35 should be the opposite imo. Do it like the NFL, and force these guys to stay at least 3 years, and have to be at least 20 to enter the draft.

[@dari2sway833]

Swap lebron and kd’s career and teams and see what happens

[@orangejuice20133]

Nothing

[@paulh.9937]

​@@orangejuice20133lebron on OKC with Westbrook, harden, and the rest of that squad is going to the conference finals. Bare minimum. And you're telling me that if lebron went to the warriors at 28 years old, in his PRIME, that he wouldn't do anything, is absolutely absurd. Your smoking good crack if you think that lebron's career wouldn't be different if he wasn't making the same career moves that KD did. Lebron on the warriors is winning 5 or 6 chips in a row, and atleast 7 or 8 for his career

[@orangejuice20133]

@@paulh.9937 kd spent only 3 years on the warriors lmao so how is lebron winning 6 rings there with most of the warriors roster going through injuries? 😂😂😂. Lebron fans are funny sometimes. Also what i meant is lebron would still be viewed as the goat or the 2nd best player ever. By switching kd and bron’s careers you are taking out a lot of defining moments of bron’s career lmao 😂.

[@LarryBrown-us8rg]

​@@paulh.9937 If lebron won 2 rings with the heat what makes you think he gonna win more with the thunder 😂 either same results or just either win 1 ring or be ringless so 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@morrisparrish76]

There have been 3 people in NBA history to average 30ppg in their rookie season!

[@mike04574]

dirks rookie season was a lockcout shortened season

[@alexgrissom3513]

Kobe should be in the same tier as Karl

[@sage_dtn]

I got hit the the my balls was hit add😭😭😭

[@alexanderi2020]

This is what missing context looks like lol

[@fdub301]

Melo should’ve been ROY over LeBron

[@lminter89]

LeBron was cool.. fire??

[@mylesperh0ur]

ausar is a good player 😭

[@chocktaebolanca757]

I will never understand why people get so pressed about some fans not caring about players of the past. Do you think in 60-70 years anyone will give af Jordan and Lebron? It’s not that people will dislike them, they will just be less interested because they will have a whole new generation of players to watch. It’s just the nature of time man

[@JayDay510]

pre-magic #1

[@ethwr__]

Bill Russel put up some Deandre Drummond ass numbers icl

[@georgestafford5680]

Duncan had a filler rookie season

[@TLD4547]

BANGER!! AFTER BANGER!! AFTER BANGER!!!

[@coltonmoon6074]

nephew wants to watch cartoons, nah we watching solz and sage

[@Shamusving]

Wes Unseld definitely wasn't white 😂

[@HennyEditz_]

Bro what is under Sage Durag

[@mindspan_odyssey]

First to comment

[@sator6794]

How the fuck Luca is a legend

[@chocktaebolanca757]

He already has 4 first team all nbas. That’s insanely more impressive than anything players like Ray Allen, Vince Carter, or even Dominique ever did

[@jamesboone8997]

Did y'all actually call him George Gerving?

[@chocktaebolanca757]

Damn they added a letter to his name, lock em up

[@Skywalkersview]

I think that was Wes Unseld in the Bullets jersey lol. But im not gon hold yall on that cause i dont know the OG like that either lol

[@keelanlowry9513]

yeah its not wes unseld he only wore 41, its his team mate elvin hayes who wears number 11, fun fact they were drafted 1st and 2nd in the same draft they went on to play with eachother in the 1972-73 season

[@radical_drift1019]

Ausar Thompson

[@zacharyhupert2388]

This list is invalid because Luka goatcic isn't on it

[@FearsomeVoid]

I was hoping to see him on the list and was disappointed.

[@meg-k-waldren]

Why is Magic behind Lebronze in your thumbnail when Magic won a ring in his rookie season? Im out. No time for 🧢tubers.

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

It’s funny how MJ didn’t face any pressure AT ALL but LeBron had the most pressure of any athlete of all time. MJ stans seem to forget that

[@SuperJoshuaWorld64]

Honestly what's your point though

[@weebtrash3376]

You said absolutely nothing

[@ILOV3BUTT3R]

How old are you?

[@joskaizer9521]

Yet mi is still the more iconic player how funny

[@kingdinodragonite3470]

With or without pressure MJ still averaged 35 so you are just being a crybaby

[@D-money813]

How is 18 year old lebron JUST fire?!!?!? Look at everyone else who came straight from high school. yall trippin

[@alexgrissom3513]

Who cares if he was straight out of high school or not. A rookie season is a rookie season

[@D-money813]

@@alexgrissom3513 he got ROY straight outta high school!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jakob9942]

​@@D-money813vs Carmelo Anthony's great season no less

[@mykeydees5238]

Doesn't matter, it's about rookie seasons

[@D-money813]

@@jakob9942 and carmelo was a college champion !!!!

[@SwaggyT78]

26:54 LeBron is on here