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[@kkklllaaa1234]

Theo thank you so much for doing these videos. Very thorough, detailed, and you always point out some interesting details. Keep up the good work

[@ИринаЛяшенко-я8к]

Great presentation! What about watermaker? Thanks.

[@Muratshayev]

Nice boat. Contains everything you need for a charter. Thanks for the review.

[@Nixontheman]

Great boat tour, and thanks for doing it right and giving us the bloody price.

[@rustysailor4672]

It looks as if the bimini would interfere with the boom. Is this due to the camera perspective or is the bimini only to be used at anchor?

[@chataguasailing]

the bimini is probably designed to not have an issue with the boom. They have it down for better filming and they are in the UK which the sun here doesn't burn you. I work on Jeaneau 410 in hot tropical weather and we always keep it up, never put it down ever.

[@micr0eye]

Very nice boat! but im in love with your boat shoes 😁

[@n.o.b.1907]

Let's hope nothing goes wrong in that full'stack engine room...

[@jonathanairey9123]

Nice. And a good, thoughtful, professional review. Did Bav delete the option of the split forecabin option, ie panel in or out??, as in the 46cruiser??

[@lovropirkl2672]

Bavaria still offer the split cabin foreward on the C46. I own a Bavaria cruiser 46 that has that feature, but if I'm going to be completely honest, it's a pretty forgettable feature. It takes a lot of work to take that wall out and most people (including me) just don't bother. Let alone the fact that the boat has no dedicated space for the removable wooden panels, so you just have to leave them at home. I haven't removed that wall in years and I mostly just treat it as a regular 4 cabin boat. One more thing to note is that there is very limited privacy between the foreward 2 cabins as it is impossible to install sound deadening material between the forward two cabins. You can hear every whisper from the other cabin through that foreward wall.

[@jonathanairey9123]

@@lovropirkl2672 the splitter is for the charter market. Store it ashore until needed. I know this market.

[@ukpitts]

The galley ! Hot food will presumably be off the menu if the boat is on port tack on a filthy night.

[@kingneptune8937]

Almost £700k ? My advice would be to employ some one who's in the buisness of sailing crewing and managing yachts to help you purchase a yacht if you don't have the knowledge. Banaras have certainly moved forward with their build quality and option lists

[@lovropirkl2672]

I was in the market for a 45 foot sailboat last year and I was quoted a base price for a Bavaria C46 to be about 320k€, fully equipped for charter she came in just under 400k€. That was the price that a Slovenian dealer quoted me, but when I contacted a German dealer, I was quoted a price that was about 150k€ more expensive. You have to be very careful as to who you're buying these from. In the end I settled for a Bavaria "cruiser 46", and not the "C46". That is the previous generation of this boat, that has been kept in production. For less than 280k€ you get a boat that was designed about 14 years ago, but it's a boat that objectively isn't by any means worse than the brand new design. Sure the cabins are a little bit tighter, but that's a small price to pay when I consider the fact that I've saved 120k€ with that.

[@production2880]

@@lovropirkl2672 would you mind about sharing the name of the Slovenian dealer?

[@lovropirkl2672]

@@production2880 The man is called Tomaž Kunaver, his company is called "TTY Adriatic". You can Google his company webpage where you can select any Bavaria model and download the brochures of any model that interests you. In the brochure you will find a base price and a list of all options and their prices. It was a pleasant experience buying a boat from him, but a pro tip I will give you is to tell him that you're buying a boat to put it in charter, because if he thinks you are buying it for private use, he might start cranking up the prices like crazy.

[@deerfootnz]

My problem with this kind of boat is that as they heel the immersed hull shape becomes very asymmetric. This is especially important in any sizeable waves where these fat assed nonsense monstrosities become awful to sail. At high heel angles it's along way to fall across that beam where the wheels are, aft. They have decided to fit more accomodations into the same length and so everything gets wider and higher...and less boat shaped. So they have compromised the sailing performance more and more with each generation to fit more stuff in the same length. My own boat has an 18m waterline on 18m of overall length and a beam of 4.1m. It's a fin and spade boat that will hold a course without autopilot for many miles at a time, it's easy to singlehand and will churn out 200 mile days for day after day.

[@n.o.b.1907]

Absolutely!

[@Mineirovsky]

What boat do you have?

[@tomasleal5011]

Who ever edit this video has a mint music taste.

[@tomasleal5011]

I shazammed every song lol.

[@PreacherRock1]

ok Yachting Monthly. So you were sailing on a beat at approx 6 knots. What about all points of sail in varying conditions?? Surely sailors would be more interested in the sail ability and boat speed than a dishwasher????? I would prefer to passage plan at 7 to 8 knots in comfort with a decent displacement yacht with low decks than have a floating caravan..

[@tonyhalsall3170]

Surprising that amongst other ”nice touches” the twin cockpit tables are not on adjustable pedestals. As a couple, dropping a table (like on the Bavaria Vision) and having a double lounging bed is just wonderful.

[@rawswedegaming]

I know this a cruiser but still the boat looks like a underrigged hot tub

[@lovropirkl2672]

The top of the mast is more than 22.5 meters off the waterline. The Bavaria c46 has the same length to height ratio as a modern imoca 60. Production boats are rarely "underrigged". It's usually the "off-shore blue water" long keel boats that have small masts and booms that barely stretch back as far as the Sprayhood. The boom on the Bavaria boats is so long that it almost touches the backstays.

[@chrisoleary9876]

What's with Bavaria!? Weren't they bankrupt a few years ago? Who owns them now? 😮

[@lovropirkl2672]

The company filed for bankruptcy about 6 years ago, then some private firm bought it and reshuffled the business model. Bavaria has been going strong since August 2018

[@chrisoleary9876]

@@lovropirkl2672 Thanks for the reply and info!

[@iCover480]

I like this dude better than Toby.

[@georgedoolittle9015]

So nice it's boring! 🤣🤣🤣

[@n.o.b.1907]

"Everything to everybody" design. It is this kind of designs that give bad names to latest sailing boat designs...

[@toastfrenzy]

Would I charter one, yes. Would I buy one, No.