Yagoo Discusses The Future of hololive

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#vtuber

[@lightning9789]

YAGOO is the only man who can make the concept of a metaverse sound interesting

[@Player22095]

In 10 years time, I hope YAGOO's vision in Vtuber culture still lives on even after he steps down. It really is a wonderful thing that he created this rabbit hole we now call Hololive. Anyway, "Sou desu ne" timestamps: 0:17 2:01 2:19 3:50 3:57 4:01 5:15 5:38 5:58 6:05 7:41 8:31 8:34 8:38 9:32 9:42 10:03

[@kaosu1337]

tskr!

[@mercenary128v2]

I dream of a day when people stop calling them Vtubers and say Hololive talents instead.

[@gokbay3057]

@@mercenary128v2 Why thought? They are vtubers. That is literally what they are. AKB48 members are idols, Pewdiepie is a youtuber, people in movies and theater are actors. That's just what they are. Just like how Hololive talents are vtubers.

[@mercenary128v2]

@@gokbay3057 because sadly with the vtuber culture expansion, there's obviously a bad side effect, and that ugly part it's called EN indie vtubers, Vtweeters, etc. They are giving the word Vtuber a bad reputation with how they act and how little the essence of Vtubing means to them. That's why saying Hololive talents it's a better way to difference quality vtubers with the fake ones.

[@gokbay3057]

@@mercenary128v2 It is true that there is currently a non-insignificant stigma on being a vtuber, especially from a mainstream point of view but that can change in time. Similar to how anime has recently become a far more mainstream and appreciated medium or TTRPGs like D&D with the growth of actual play series.

[@RadicalEdward2]

Yagoo has essentially become the Walt Disney of the Vtuber industry. He’s an unstoppable force that I don’t see slowing down any time soon.

[@tobubiify]

Nah to be Walt Disney he would envision to make a new country

[@RadicalEdward2]

@@tobubiify In his vision for the company image he definitely fits the bill. Also, he did mention expansion worldwide.

[@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133]

@@tobubiify I think he is envisioning to make a whole universe...

[@kuronoch.1441]

​@@tobubiifywell Yagoo is planning his own version of Disney's Epcot.

[@YarugumaSou]

Let's hope that, unlike Walt, his successors won't spit on his legacy many years later.

[@FreinHowe]

Man, I can't see a future without Yagoo in it. I always pray for Yagoo's well-being. Stay Safe and Healthy Yagoo.

[@wbcnoun]

very true! hololive without Yagoo is a scary thought

[@venomark7883]

Yagoo is the reason I wake up every morning and be excited for what's to come from him

[@JL_Loki]

True. When they suddenly mentioned retirement, I feel sad even if it's far yet. Though what I thought is far now comes pretty fast these days...

[@meetjeric]

You can thank subaru chan though, without her, there's no YAGOO

[@ithildiess8305]

I sure want him to work into his 70's if he's well enough for it. But yeah. Its a tough position so maybe 60-65's is more realistic. Its a beautiful dream for ossan though. I respect him a lot !

[@DioSatyaloka]

I kinda have a feeling that all those VCR Collabs are sort-of mock-up of what this HOLOEARTH economy gonna be.

[@NyangisKhan]

It's probably going to be a platform like fortnite but instead of gameplay it'd focus on events. Imagine a hololive concert but it'd happen like a fortnite event. And maybe in the open-world, people can go to certain places for holoearth exclusive streams/ small concerts or stuff like that. And there's probably going to be some cosmetic options to change your avatar ofc.

[@Terralventhe]

​@@NyangisKhanIt also makes sense that HoloEarth has building mechanics. In essence rather than PvP being the focus, community building where players can build areas to congregate with one another has a lot of longevity to it.

[@jjQlLlLq]

​​@@NyangisKhan Heck don't need to imagine, they've already done in-game concerts in Holoearth right? 😆 It ended up being a stress test for the game's services too

[@Foxshirakami]

He just making a new alternative universe Let him cook

[@yamiRic]

Vaultroom team actually was invited to Hololive Studio during HLZNTL project. So they might have some discussion

[@Yukari_MAiG]

Whoa, I'm really surprised Cover takes a look at Hoyoverse when considering how to move forward. They really look at the market from a wider picture. Actually, Cover really takes a lot of thing into consideration when it comes to deciding their next move huh. I'm truly amazed.

[@wbcnoun]

yup! he is really trying to create the best contents for us

[@yamiRic]

Yagoo mentioned Mihoyo in this vid. In other vid, he also mentioned BTS. Those are the goals he is aiming for.

[@lionelk.y7233]

I mean it makes sense To an extent

[@davidwusoftdev]

Thank you for the translation! It's very interesting to learn what YAGOO's vision is for holoearth!

[@wbcnoun]

woah thanks for commenting! his vision is ambitious but i'm looking forward to how he'll bring it to life! :D

[@az197]

When the saddest day comes when Yahoo Retires, I hope A-Chan becomes the next CEO representative

[@edenromanov]

She'd have to move more into the backside of the company to learn all the business aspects of the company for that to happen, honestly I'm sure as long as Yagoo chooses his successor himself Cover Corp should be fine.

[@delphy2478]

@@edenromanov she's talked a bit about being a pretty senior level manager, so it's not unreasonable to think she might work her way up the ladder over time to a position where her getting groomed as the successor would be reasonable, but it's also far from a certain thing

[@astrealove2247]

Well, A-chan is pretty much the Pepper Pots of Clover/Hololive.

[@Arkamui]

He hasn't even turned 50 yet and knowing how people are in Japan, unless something unforeseen happens he'll probably continue working for a few more decades

[@TheShiningEnergy]

i hope that when Yagoo retires, Hololive won't be driven into the ground by Japanese business practices.

[@Absolute__Zero]

Honestly, given this man's track record, when he sets a goal for himself then I have no doubt that he'll eventually achieve it. Yagoo is the personification of someone who's *Motivated!*

[@wbcnoun]

i'm not sure how the end product will look, but he'll definitely make a product that's good for us 😊

[@YuuKiira]

you mean the idol group?

[@Meonium]

​@@YuuKiiraAKB48-like group

[@Setsuzation]

Motivated... now I remember the Approaching Storm man

[@DawnAfternoon]

@@Meonium You mean the AK47 group

[@RecordToDeathToBoredom]

thank you for translating this. YAGOAT will get the nobel prize one day before he retires.

[@wbcnoun]

it would be insane if he actually got one xD

[@venomark7883]

And we'll be there to cheer him and acknowledge the things he's done for Hololive and Cover

[@CunnyVirus]

that's just like what he said. we need goal to keep having motivation. and his goal is a lot including nobel prize.

[@plagesama]

Thanks for more on this topic. These are really interesting. The main thing I'm getting is just how competent Yagoo actually is. He's careful with how he puts things, forward looking, but also very realistic.

[@wbcnoun]

wazzup plagesama! ngl, he's pretty ambitious with this project imo, but if it ends up working out, it'll be really great for us all!! 😊

[@McDudes]

Holo Earth is interesting project for sure, too me it seems something likea 3rd person VR chat social type of game but you can build stuff? And also feels like hololive members are gonna be able to do virtual concerts in there, since I think they have tested something like that in the past. But whats more interesting and surprising too me was Yagoo speaking about what he wish the Vtuber industry should be like. It feels like he wants it to grow a ton more globaly.

[@CaptainOverkill]

I think the importance of Holoearth is less about VR social and more about creating an eventual replacement for KZbin. As of right now, all vTubers are completely reliant on third party streaming platforms run by fickle companies who may change the rules at a whim. As long as Hololive depends on KZbin, they will always face a risk of changes being made that ruins their business model. Holoearth, therefore, is a possible solution to this problem. If they can host events and concerts on Holoearth, then that helps "firewall" Hololive from the third party risk associated with KZbin. Yagoo is not necessarily going to say this out loud, because he doesn't want to piss off the management of KZbin/Google.

[@McDudes]

yeah I agree youtube has to goo. But it would probably be too high cost atm for them to host all streams themselves.@@CaptainOverkill

[@renpu3441]

If I’m not wrong cover is in the middle of developing an app for the girls to live stream there, what I’m hoping is holoplus to be available for the global audience

[@jjQlLlLq]

​@@renpu3441Oh is Holoplus for the girls to stream too? My impression was that it was a social media for Holomems & Holofans, which I was excited for cuz Twixxer has become one hell of a platform 😂

[@ariswiryanta7038]

@@CaptainOverkillYup this was also written on Cover's presentation when they open to publich stock

[@kuromadraken]

Seen both your yagoo interviews. I really like how a) your translation and b) your animation and c) how you add context whenever relevant. REALLY REALLY GOOD JOB. PLS LIKE AND SHARE EVERYONE!

[@wbcnoun]

i really appreciate the kind words!! 😊

[@user-td6cg5mz8d]

今まで観たことなかったわ 切り抜いてくれてありがとう YAGOOの声落ち着くし、丁寧だし、清楚だな

[@CSLucasEpic]

I see. This would also explain why now Cover is encouraging the fan made games to become official products for Hololive games.

[@malava290]

Thank you very much for translating this segment! I had no idea that yagoo is genuinely thinking about the way forward with hololive and some ambitions and worries he has in mind. Didnt expect this to pop up in my feed but thanks again!

[@wbcnoun]

i actually didn't even know what holoearth was until this interview 😆 i'm glad the video was informative for you!

[@GriFinnDor]

not just a CEO but also an Innovator.

[@thisisobviouslybait]

Ame has already done what he wants to do and did so without dealing with meta.

[@YarugumaSou]

Innovator? So he's gonna make contact with aliens in the future?

[@violentcheerer]

@@YarugumaSou no, no, no.. not that type we dont want that type of war in this era. I want the mechs though.

[@EricWulfe]

​@@YarugumaSouno, i dont want to become that delusional

[@EricWulfe]

​@@violentcheerera space-scale war is always gonna end up with planet-bound settlers getting decimated, its always like that across all space scifi franchises, as space forces always hold dominion over planets. tho, i do agree reborns be looking good, kinda like gundam-cum-guncannon

[@mercenary128v2]

Yagoo san, you already did an extraordinary service to humanity. You gave to millions of people what they desperately needed in times like the current ones: a reason to smile, to live and hope of better entertainment. With Hololive, there's a reason to wake up every morning and to be excited every week (there's literally dozens of news every single day)

[@wbcnoun]

i think he has made the world a happier place for sure 😊

[@TheStickman2014]

simp

[@edenromanov]

Man I Love Yagoo, he really makes me have a lot of hope for the future of Hololive! 💙

[@DraceForgon]

MILY = Man, I ❤ Yagoo

[@wbcnoun]

it's good to see that he's continuously pushing new concepts ^^

[@faisfaizal5194]

Yagoo's retirement somehow felt like it'll be sadder than my oshi's graduation. Man, I don't want him to go🥲

[@redfield7106]

What are you saying? YAGOO is everyone's secret oshi

[@wbcnoun]

ngl i know what you mean xD

[@Ardeleus]

If he thinks bigger, which Yagoo certainly seems to be thinking right now, Hololive could be beyond just vtubers, but instead one of the first steps towards a virtual world in real life. The classic one that you see in scifi and fantasy, where people hop into virtual worlds to hang out and do things such as concerts, parks, etc. to just chat and hang out with friends vs what you would do IRL. The ideal future with this in mind is a balance where you can decide with your friends to go to the park, then head back to your own homes to hop in the virtual world to chat and hang out and play games and stuff. But my guess is itll still look very rough and "in beta" the same way RPGs and videogames used to look, with low poly models and basic stuff, eventually evolving so that your avatar can be much more detailed, beautiful/amazing looking, etc. and the virtual world's content will also evolve beyond just gaming

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

If you dig around you can actually see the current look where, Yagoo, Polka and Botan went into the HoloEarth beta and tested/showcased game play - It's worth the look,

[@druegnor1703]

There use to be this concept. It was called 2nd Life

[@wbcnoun]

the footage i used in this video for holoearth is actually what it looks like right now. it's not top of the line detail for today's standards, but it's not low poly

[@rayo_0098]

At first i didnt see why this would be impactful because i dont see how holoearth is different from other games, but from what Yagoo said it could actually be pretty good, if we take as an example other server events with games like these like Rust and GTA, where most of the times things like commisions of art, voice packs, trade of materials, etc. always come out, making it more of a social game, and if to this you include an idea came to me from what Yagoo mentioned where maybe artists could also make models, designs and outfits for the game this could actually so big and be a very important social game, (maybe the same impact like VRchat but with more gameplay like a real game) This is also very interesting because to this, you add things they have been doing before like participating in concerts and chatting, that would be very hype

[@litfill54]

@@rayo_0098 i've been thinking the same watching the video

[@rcane6842]

I imagine HoloEarth will be like Valheim or Craftopia -esque gameplay where the 'viewers' will be able to build their own stuff, showcase their creativity and admiration to their oshis (while nuking the negative stuffs, ofc). At the same time, in-game concerts will be held similar to that of PSO2 (I only saw 1 clip of it, nothing more. maybe someone can give a better example) where a specific area/stage is meant to have performances there (fans can showcase their stuff, at the same time Talents can use it as in-game concerts). If multiple towns will exist, a huge tv broadcast is available on those towns, and/or teleportation to the main town (which I do not prefer, else it might be a 'free warp' thing). Every Talents will have their 'main mansion' where they will be able to conduct their livestreams with in-game fans. They also will have a section of their mansion where they can do 'membership only' stuffs. HoloEarth will also have a special place for other vtubers - Niji people can have their own place there as well with limited features/access/permissions but has to pay royalty fee to Cover (backend management stuff). They can also do concerts there, but gotta pay that royalty fee again. I'd imagine that's one way Cover will be able to steer the direction as well as future development of the vtuber market as a whole.

[@helloworld-qo3gf]

I assume you haven't played it and yes, they already had concert before and building system in the beta test, you can download it now to experience the easy building system. I can say once you try watching concert in it , you will only demand all of the live be performed on it in the future, cause that is a totally different experience.

[@tanakakun6093]

Tbh, If they did it like pso2 concerts, I would be a fan of the concerts. As I have been playing pso2 for 4 years b4 NGS. Experienced the concert first hand and it is amazing. PSO2 also had interactive concerts where players can actually join in the performance and was addicted to that stuff tbh. I think PSO2 NGS got concerts too but havent play enough of it and didnt get to the city where they are actually hosting those concerts.

[@yamiRic]

Yes I was attending their previous HoloEarth concert and it was amazing. We broke their server though

[@kuronoch.1441]

​​@@yamiRicSpeaking of Craftopia, rumors are circulating that he had already contacted the devs of Craftopia (who by the way are huge Hololive fans and had placed a lot of Hololive references in their game) and commissioned them to help in the development of HoloEarth. That might have put up a lot of potential capital that their CEO used to further develop yet another game. You know the result, and it is glorious.

[@jrtime228]

Yagoo is a man with a vision. Cheers to you Yagoo, and cheers to your aspirations becoming successful endeavors!

[@wbcnoun]

i hope he succeeds as well 🙏 this project could potentially be really great for us all

[@jadehendrix]

Thanks for the great edits alongside the interesting news! I can share to people less familiar with vtubers but interested in vr as a peek into media futures

[@wbcnoun]

i hope the edits were fitted in appropriately! ^^

[@oozarusama]

I wouldn't be surprised if HOLOLIVE releases the first real nervegear.

[@fletarious]

now Yuna from SAO can be real lmao

[@jordanholloman5907]

Preferably without the killing mechanism.

[@wbcnoun]

it's not too far off honestly xD

[@shockmazta3116]

@@jordanholloman5907 Maybe save that option for the gamers who want to play on "Hardcore" lol

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

"Since long ago, I have always felt the strong urge to contribute to humanity" i shall always respect someone who has the virtue of wanting to contribute to humanity. his mindset is in a good place. whenever i see yagoo in most pictures or videos he's got a smile on his face. he's someone that wants the best in everyone.

[@ZeptoZeno]

As long as the mental health of the talents is always going to be a priority, and as long as they are allowed to take breaks if it becomes too much at times, Cover can dive into all kinds of media and expand even more. I want to keep seeing Hololive win, but please never lose this familiar, friendly atmosphere.

[@FATDADDYSACK]

This is why Neuro Sama exist > she doesn’t need rest and never hungers. No mental health and just fun and entertaining. Look how successful she’s been

[@rbsalmon7895]

@@FATDADDYSACK Yeah but it's hard to personally connect or relate with an AI. I'm not talking about the parasocial stuff either. When I'm still into vtubers most of the ones I watch align with my hobbies and games that I play. There's also their own sense of humour and personality. I see the appeal with Neuro sama tho

[@wbcnoun]

he seems to be very considerate of the talents so far, so i think we'll be okay there. holoearth would likely expand on the familiar, friendly atmosphere if it succeeds, so i think his head is in the right place ^^

[@EroBotan]

the problem with mental health are mostly the talent's own fault & stubbornness i think.

[@Hollow_Tim]

FATDADDYSACK Imagine thinking an AI can replace real people. AI can’t come up with original ideas or jokes, they just recycle shit they learned.

[@srkares]

3:55 slick little edit. thanks for translating these, its been super insightful. the show itself also seems to be very well done. a respectful and well-informed host, asking good questions. very interesting that - as expected- yagoo is very well informed about everything around vtubing and where to take it, but also realizes that there is no guarantee the metaverse project will succeed. i think it at least has a good chance to exist and be of use to hololive, because its narrower scope makes it actually interesting and useful for fans. also, once established, maybe they can also open it up to other creators, hmm... also finally heard the answer to the EU issue and its as i expected: they simply dont have the resources to allocate to it. frankly speaking, even debuting a new, european vtuber is a "waste" when you can instead work on permeating the US or EA/SEA market more. also goddamn, yagoo really is best girl, just wanting to help out all of humanity, lol.

[@wbcnoun]

i'm glad you found the translation helpful ^^

[@delphy2478]

i feel like yagoo is trying to make hololive into the nintendo of vtubing, where they will always be the ones pushing the boundaries and trying new things

[@wbcnoun]

he's pushing the boundaries for sure! 😊

[@Lianpe98]

Did not expect to read "nintendo" and "pushing the boundries" on the same phrase.

[@sivel7493]

@@Lianpe98 well, tbf, they used to I suppose, long ago.

[@ploopydoopydoo]

“Despite not being an online game company” Woah woah woah there Mr. Yagoo are you forgetting the masterpiece that is Ping Pong League?

[@wbcnoun]

tbh he might have xD

[@Gytis_Of_KFP_The_4th_PenKing]

this is very great thank you so much for translation! also YAGOO is amazing person i hope he succeeds in all of his goals

[@wbcnoun]

no problem! i also hope he succeeds ^^

[@SeanCrosser]

Playing around with the HoloEarth sanbox room, I was expecting a much simpler builder with very simplistic snapping rules. There's some limitations I've hit, but overall it feels like a better buildmode than... like, Fallout4/76. Which, admittedly, isn't much, but it's a lot better than I was expecting.

[@wbcnoun]

better building than Fallout 4/76 is impressive considering they aren't even trying to compete xD

[@helloworld-qo3gf]

you can reply your suggestion with in-game mailing, maybe they will take it and make some modification

[@forslos8756]

Then you might have to look at Valheim, it has pretty flexible build mode too

[@yodawgzgaming4416]

So awesomely informative! The Ame cut at 2:54 had me spitting out my drink laughing 😆

[@wbcnoun]

LOL i hope that part wasn't out of place bc i really wanted to put it in 🤣

[@sarethdarva]

Funny that Yagoo mentions MiHoYo, the maker of Genshin Impact, a game that his talents aren’t allowed to play thanks to geopolitics. They are actually working on an expansive VR game of their own with one of its stated goals being to help those who feel depressed and lonely. I can see Holoearth aiming for something similar but with Vtubers rather than a fantasy game. A lot of people like me were helped by Vtubers at the height of the pandemic-and by the release of Genshin too. The bits of Holoearth footage I’ve seen looked a bit like Genshin’s background art style already…I’m not surprised he’s learning from their good example. One day I hope that division can be healed. We all know so many of the talents are whaling already :)

[@lilopygaming3218]

Kinda hard. There is an immense divide between the 2 spheres due to past dramas and events that lead up to multiple talents affected. Alot of the fans can't accept it. From a business standpoint going back into the Chinese market make sense but it's a steep slope to climb given how sensitive that region is.

[@The_Observant_Eye]

@@lilopygaming3218 Yeah. When geopolitics takes the driver's seat, especially considering Holo is operating in the media market, that sounds unlikely. I believe an apt analogy for China in the media market is it's a rich market, both in money to be earned and landmines to step on. Holo had experienced both, and for now, their choice seems to keep it on ice if not abandon it altogether.

[@dawndeath]

Yagoo has a vision and he is set to achieve it, can't wait to see it happen

[@wbcnoun]

i'm gonna be along for the entire ride!! go Yagoo!!

[@lqfr8813]

to make it short, yagoo is trying to make another streaming platform for his talents to have game content while interacting with viewers

[@fletarious]

yes

[@Yeshbebe]

the biggest flaw of this business is that it relies on youtube which provides hololive a natural growth through algorithms. you can't move all this in a separate website, you can't just make your own streaming platform, a large amount of potential audience won't visit it. streams aren't like music or concerts, so his ideas about metaverse can be brought in life only with changing a company business model where company should spend lots of money for advertising their main product

[@franciscoc905]

Meaning all super chats and memberships, Covers gets 100% the revenue and talents will get a bigger cut. I fully expect them to heavily push this and having Super chats sessions for it. I also expect this area to hold the concerts now and market it as the ultimate viewing experience with VR headsets so that they can also hold all the transaction revenue from it, also allowing more access for international viewers to JP,EN, and ID concerts

[@lqfr8813]

@@franciscoc905 i dont know how the donation works in new platform but they still gonna get cut from tax. japan has one of most notorious tax. but by having their own platform, hololive doesnt need to be soo afraid to get banned like in youtube or twitch due to how their ai works in copyright and censorship. . i imagine the talents would still stream on youtube while using the new platform in the future, youtube still more accomplished in many things

[@franciscoc905]

@@lqfr8813 I think the biggest message from that example is that they want to avoid the 30% cut from superchats and possibly memberships if they can from KZbin

[@justinliu9035]

this was actually a very interesting interview! thank you for the translation!

[@Lopezprieto]

Yagoo is very very smart - most business man of his caliber goes for the money without providing anything for us, Yagoo gave us a dream (cuz his keeps shattering ;O)

[@DaimonAnimations]

So Yagoo is gonna bring world peace through Vtubers! He has my vote.

[@wbcnoun]

VTuber domination == world peace 😎

[@noppera_]

It would be great if hololive made an app like HoYoLAB for the community.

[@ryfrll]

they already made an app similar to hoyolab called 'holoplus', it's still in jp ver tho.

[@kamusiapadah]

Souu desu nee ~

[@ksx612]

Thank you very much for subtitles and posting this kind of vid. Woah, I never ever see CEO talk so openly and thoroughly about their business like he did before.

[@wbcnoun]

i'm glad i could help spread Yagoo's words with this video :D

[@SilverMystes1]

Wow such a great undertaking. Big aspirations from the Cover CEO himself. I believe in you Yagoo!

[@gavinchannel1963]

This man deserve a Noble Prize

[@wbcnoun]

he already got the Nobel Prize in our hearts ^^

[@yamiRic]

Thank you for translating the 2nd part 😅 Yagoo is a sweet human being

[@wbcnoun]

i hope it was interesting for you! i only did the parts that were hololive related though 😊

[@Kurukuu]

Interesting interview, thanks for the translation

[@wbcnoun]

"Don't make it Zuck" LMAO i think Yagoo's vision is possible, if he doesn't get carried away with random features or something

[@vkarvanzer4243]

7:24 I hope Yagoo has a successor already by that time...

[@wbcnoun]

my brain cannot comprehend someone succeeding Yagoo 😵

[@vkarvanzer4243]

@@wbcnoun Me too, but we all know he's old and sooner or later he'll be gone. And if he live healthy for another 10 years, i guess it will be the peak, the golden age of virtual world including vtubers. Whoever succeed him will face a whole new challenges too, dang.

[@wbcnoun]

@@vkarvanzer4243 i hope he'll find a good successor. it'll be great if he could see his dreams being realized

[@Yenrei]

Thanks for your continued work on translating this interview. If there's one thing truer than how excited YAGOO is about the future of this industry, it's that he's more than capable of leaving his own mark on it and actualizing his dreams in their full scope.

[@wbcnoun]

there are skeptics for this project, but i do believe he'll make something great!

[@BeefBossu]

I have a deep respect for this man. I also love him.

[@MaskofFayt]

You can tell you're an adult when you're really interested in the market discussion more than the game details

[@BeforeON3]

Finally thx bro❤

[@wbcnoun]

sorry for the wait ❤

[@twophan]

Man, the fact he still talks so positively about mihoyo after getting dropped hard by those parties in the past.. i hope that bridge can be mended someday.

[@nousagi_r5455]

Mihoyo probably got pressured to drop cover, Mihoyo probably hate CCP too since they keep enforcing rules that restrict people from playing games and the recent rule to limit spending money on game currency.

[@rebeltheharem7028]

In the end, HoloPro will become recognized as a "global brand" rather than an agency, and the actual Hololive members will be more like active advertisers for the company's products rather than the product itself (specifically - surpassing the "Idol" and "v-tuber" chain and going toward grander aspirations). There's no point in stunting your company and presenting the talents as the "products", when you can make them far greater. There might not seem like a big difference in results, but in mindset, its like the difference between day and night. If I had to draw similarities so something in the real world, it would be like the difference between selling a smart phones and selling the operating system for the smart phone.

[@IronFreee]

I really hope that he won't end up like Musk: pilling up unrealistic promises and never delivering half of them. I'm also usually not a fan of people using buzzwords like "metaverse" or claiming to "better humanity" without having anything concrete to present. It reminds me of Theranos and all those other over-mediatized scammers... But I'm curious to see what he can pull out and I just hope that he won't loose sight of what made the success of Hololive.

[@Mclucasrv]

At least their metaverse is already 10x better then the one from facebook because plays like an MMOrpg so at least their vision is more concrete even if not complete.

[@RecordToDeathToBoredom]

If you really looked more into Yagoo, you wouldn't be as skeptical about it. Elon and Tanigo have 2 COMPLETELY different experiences. Tanigo went through the same hardships when he lost some girls because they got cancelled or wanted to retire. He even cut off China; the main global money maker.

[@huttserl]

I think yagoo is grounded enough to understand that what he's doing is a giant risk, but not one that he honestly doesn't believe he'll be able to pull off, even if it takes longer than expected. He definitely has the vision, the drive, and the community behind him on this encouraging him, which is a lot more than the metaverse had in the first place and I think that that's the trifecta he's going to use to successfully launch this. It won't be without hiccups/bugs/etc of course, but I don't see him or cover as a company that won't try and fix things/or will push low quality monetization towards players (look at bae's backpack that recently released; they discovered an issue with the plastic used and then promptly and pro-actively re-sent _another_ bag for everyone who bought a defective one, regardless of whether that buyer actually reached out or not).

[@CaptainOverkill]

I think the name "Metaverse" is unfortunate because it immediately brings to mind Facebook's money black hole project that is currently failing horribly. The idea behind Holoearth is to create a platform directly under Cover's control that can be used to host concerts and events and let fans and fan groups talk to and connect with each other. Currently, Cover is reliant on third party platforms (such as KZbin) for streaming and concerts to make its business model work. An in-house platform allows them to mitigate some of the risk of those third party platforms, as well as reduce company expenses in the form of fees which may be paid to these platforms. Even if the social media aspect of Holoearth fails, they will still have a platform for hosting their own streams and events.

[@IronFreee]

@@CaptainOverkill Yes, distancing themselves from KZbin is understandably one their top priorities. Not only KZbin is taking a big chunk of their revenues, it's also completely unpredictable.

[@Lianpe98]

"I apologize, I didn't research enough so I didn't know" Only a japanese person would apologize like that 😆

[@wbcnoun]

he was sincerely taken off guard 😂

[@-Raylight]

0:17 He said the "Soudesune"!! 2:55 Poor YAGOO having NAM flashback from Ame's gamer moments xD Hope he can receive a Nobel Prize for what he has done to make people happy! Wonder what will happen to Cover in 10 years from now

[@wbcnoun]

even if a Nobel Prize never happens, the fans know how much happiness he has spread ^^

[@edboi2154]

I would die for this man. Thank you Yagoo. Also did I actually just see PSO2 NGS at 1:28?

[@wbcnoun]

was it a mistake to put PSO2 NGS in? i just put it in because it was an anime-looking game that looks similar to the holoearth gameplay we have so far

[@edboi2154]

Nah it’s okay. I was just surprised to see it since I play the game haha.

[@dmullerstrauss]

I love the Hololive vTubers. They're my favourites. No one can match them yet. Hope his vision gets real.

[@marulrifin8180]

i dont want yaago to retire tbh. but iam pretty sure he deserve it. it is a selfish request, but i want him to look after the company especially the member as long as he could.

[@wbcnoun]

yeah no one wants Yagoo to retire tbh xD but we gotta let the man retire!

[@assaulthetz]

HoloEarth is basically a Virtual World where you have a casual adventure and some kind of storyline closely related to Holo Alternative manga. Or some kind of events that happened in real time that had tones of references to hang out with friends online.

[@wbcnoun]

the possibilities for holoearth are so grand. excited to see how it turns out 😄

[@FreyjaWion]

he's building the foundation of Holoverse for the future. in years from now, it'll be exciting to see when this things start to shape up.

[@wbcnoun]

actualization of the holoverse seems pretty hard, but i believe in Yagoo to do it 🙏

[@Crytica.]

Apart from his views on Musk and his involvement in international porblems, I do agree with Yagoo on all the stuff. He seems so passionate and down to earth when he describes Covercorp and the future of it. I hope that in 10 years time we will see a big smile on Yagoo's face as he steps down and looks back at what an amazing community and VTuber scene he has created.

[@wbcnoun]

i think his admiration for Musk is basically just that he is very ambitious xD i hope he stays grounded and can figure out this project though ^^

[@franks777_KFP]

I always think the Japanese aren't always up to speed with the crazy stuff in America (and musk) due to the language barrier. I used to think musk was cool too based on what i thought he did, vs what he was actually doing....

[@wbcnoun]

@@franks777_KFP it doesn't help that we get cherrypicked info from media too 😅 i think Yagoo just mentioned Musk because his businesses seem have a greater motive, rather than growing business for the sake of growing business/money

[@DelphinSquared]

This is a CEO that is always trying to innovate & create Brand new experiences for his company's fans, and I like it.

[@wbcnoun]

his push to create new content for us is admirable ^^

[@severussnape2917]

Let's go Yagoo!

[@dra6o0n]

When Yagoo creates a metaverse that is more valid than Zuckerberg.

[@nogamenolife7407]

At 6:17 i was there that day the photo was from fort worth texas anime frountier hope for more events in texas shoutout to calli and kiara from texas fried beer sounds really good!!!!!

[@wbcnoun]

that's awesome! hope it was fun!

[@Mclucasrv]

From all the metaverses I think this one has the chance to be at least entretaining but it will also depend of the monetization methods but in this community people tends to throw money at things that have their oshi face in it so maybe they will milk as much as they can.

[@CSLucasEpic]

If I understood correctly, it seems that Cover is aiming to get rid of KZbin or Twitch and simply have their talents do 3D streams and/or concerts on the HoloEarth metaverse. It would be a natural evolution of streaming, plus it gives the talent more freedom since they are not restricted by terms of service of YT or Twitch. Plus eliminating the middle man means the talents and Cover keeps all the money of Superchats without having to give YT or Twitch their respective cut.

[@zeanolafboyopos1409]

@PersonaOhnlyne yeah I think they're aiming for that. I also think they'll copy the Sky(android game) concert formula.

[@leandroiuki4337]

They tried to be similar to Hatsume Miku market since the beginning with concerts inside the game, together with a television and streaming content. Also investing on anime and 3D structure with animators, illustrators, voice actors, multimedia games and others.

[@kaminekoch.7465]

​@@CSLucasEpicUnless they have some crazy monetisation innovation at the ready, that sounds like a giant money pit. I believe they would make it work for concerts and big events, but I'm highly sceptical it's going to work as a regular streaming replacement. At best it's going to be a subscription only to have any chance to pay for itself.

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

@@kaminekoch.7465 I wager the monitization will be similar to VRChat - have a basic service, and then a Premium service with higher tier features, as well as the sales of merch. To really make it work at the metaverse level other companies, if they have the premium level could sell merch within the ecosystem as well and a percentage of the sales goes back to Cover.

[@JaswiL-_51]

Didn’t know Yagoo is such an envisioner 😮 I hope the dream will be achieved!

[@RizalBoon]

Thanks. Appreciated the translations

[@comamilk]

This sounds interesting, but I cant help but only think this will stay inside HoloLive. What comes to mind is watching concerts live with other people. What would be great is potentially being a live crowd IN the concert and they can see us waving and changing penlights. while we have a better view of the performer instead of the crazy camera views we get in 3D concerts. What also comes to mind is potentially watching streams but I see no point to that really. I have mixed feelings but I am rooting for them. I want them to succeed past their goal.

[@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke]

You'd need a whole condo of servers for that to happen 😅 and I believe none has accomplished what you want to happen. Baby steps, man. Baby steps.

[@indiomie]

​@@RejectHumanityReturn2MonkeI think technology will evolve alongside things like this. Already servers are in petabytes and take up less than a room. Hopefully it picks up even faster.

[@mouseii88]

Well they are certainly trying that by streaming the year end countdown event in HoloEarth. They probably won't have their own hosting but link with services like Netflix, other Vtuber event livestream, or Karaoke song lists etc. The main function they need is built-in financial transection and exchange service with user content creation Modder support, then people can make an economy out of it.

[@jjQlLlLq]

Weren't there already short concerts held in Holoearth? It ended up being stress tests for the servers too 😆

[@b.heaven9234]

Please do Metaverse right Yagoo. Don't make it Zuck.

[@daveroberson7386]

I would support this man to the ends of the earth!

[@RadicalEdward2]

I think Holoearth is going to be closer to Breath of the Wild but it’s best to not mention that in the interview otherwise Nintendo will wake up 💀

[@wbcnoun]

shhh! don't wanna mess with Nintendo xD

[@umbraemilitos]

Yagoo is a better businessman than Musk. I hope Cover can grow as an entertainment brand.

[@zeanolafboyopos1409]

Yes musk is a proven manchild. Yagoo only needs his money tbh

[@Keirnoth]

@@zeanolafboyopos1409 lmao, tell me you're a leftist without telling me you're a leftist. All of you smoothbrains thinking you can do better than Musk while acting like Yagoo is a better person has seriously been drinking the mainstream media kool-aid.

[@Discotechque]

Take a shot every time YAGOO says sou desu ne.

[@wbcnoun]

that's a health risk xD

[@tobubiify]

That is smart, like really smart. A new way to enjoy vtuber content, literally a new perspective to see them. This also shows how much he watches and study his talent's streams and the game they enjoys

[@chevriguevara3743]

wow yagoo looks healthy and youthful, i was worried he was loosing weight but not anymore

[@kweassa6204]

This is what Facebook/Meta's not getting. Nobody's going to be using the Metaverse when there's no reason or incentive to. "But it's like a virtual world!" -- a virtual world that's not fun. Gee, you go to a virtual bank or virtual shop ... to do what? To order shit? Why do I have to log on to a virtual world to go through that shit just to interact or order things, when I can just use phone apps and do it faster? What makes want to go to virtual? What is in the virtual world, that you can't get in the real world? Where's the fun? What's the motive? A virtual world, no matter how sophisticated, isn't going to bring in any people if it's "just there." What is in it? Hololive girls? Perhaps a chance to actually meet or interact??? Seeing a virtual-world exclusive concert from the characters we know and love????? THAT's what draws in people. Tech alone, like this NFT or Meta shit, doesn't create value. It doesn't draw people in. You need content. A content that people are interested in, want to be near, and want to experience it virtually -- and Hololive's got that. My biggest pipe-dream about hololive, is it becoming the new "Disney" of the virtual reality scene. And if the company keeps on growing, and the future vision Yagoo has set works out consistently, we just might be able to see it.. (although we may be, like, old ppl then).

[@wbcnoun]

i don't mind being old if i can live in the holoverse with my oshi 😎 jokes aside though, i think you are correct in your critique of FB's metaverse

[@Myticalcattnip]

YAGOO carry the metaverse (had been almost died because a nighmare model ads by mark) into another level that even people from any age will love it

[@cry9438]

Yagoo must not forget the importance of English-Speaking talents who made Hololive 2x successful. Which means making the game quickly playable in English texts and western server.

[@wbcnoun]

i'm pretty sure he is very aware of the importance of overseas fans, but overseas fans only account for 30% of hololive fans according to him, so i think he should focus on making JP successful first

[@helloworld-qo3gf]

well, they already add english translation into holoearth, but you need to go into the game setting to change it. the formal release this year( if possible) should be able to automatically switch to english depends on the system

[@diegoandonizubietagarcia5104]

5:40 yagoo can stay calm about nijisanji for now XD

[@shuichiREI-vw6ed]

HoloEarth, interesting 🤔

[@ariswiryanta7038]

My man Yagoo is building his dream not just to grow his company but helping humanity and achieving Nobel's prize? Sasuga best girl.

[@wbcnoun]

the man dreams big and we're all along for the ride

[@pananaweKing]

The best gril already saw 10 years forward in the industry. He is the living legend

[@koalabakar1167]

Damn.....if this project success, Yagoo really bring vtuber era to a different level 😮

[@wbcnoun]

the entire VTuber sphere will level up if he can pull it off 🙏

[@druegnor1703]

Boomers used to have this, it was called 2nd Life

[@rukaerika]

I hope that he can win a Nobel Peace prize bringing together all the fans from across the world is impressive but not far enough yet to get that lol it’s something to look forward to in the next 10 years !!

[@wbcnoun]

he'll definitely have to work his butt off if he actually wants that prize, but he has the heart for it!

[@akira8393]

yagoo actually knows how to use metaverse better than mark Zuckerberg 😂

[@YuYuYudotpsd]

2:55 Ame moment

[@wbcnoun]

gotta love that gremlin

[@Ballistic477]

Man’s gotta be a legend in the Vtubing community (if things go well, ofc)

[@wbcnoun]

he's gotta do REALLY bad to ruin his good reputation 🤣 i also hope he succeeds though 🙏

[@meowspark9]

Cool. I'm glad Vtubers have permeated my brain lol.

[@generalowen4344]

I really hope he manages to win a noble prize, he really deserves it with just how innovative to the industry he is.

[@wbcnoun]

he'll have to work for it, but definitely has the drive for it!

[@pedropinilla]

Honestly, Yagoo is too good for this world. I really hope for the best to him and everyone around

[@chefpengu6597]

I hope AI technology improves for Multilingual Stream Translations especially since there will always be stream delay, it could be used as advantage as the time for AI to translate before it gets sent to KZbin Streams

[@wbcnoun]

i think they will try to implement live stream translations, but it probably won't be the focus

[@1stnamel4stname]

yagoo is actually a really smart guy. i've spent so long indulging in the "yagoo best girl" meme that i forgot that he's a very business-minded person with an actual vision for his company rather than just a lolcow for us EN viewers. put some respect on the man's name

[@wbcnoun]

AGREED!

[@LuckySevenSamson]

From Hololive... to HOLOVERSE

[@Psych0Mat]

I hope Yagoo achieve his dreams of a Nobel Prize and do something big for humanity! Now if only he stopped bouncing his hands in this interview from nervousness I could hear more of the stuff he had to say! It was so distracting man!!!!

[@wbcnoun]

hahahaha i noticed his hands too 😆

[@pogituna]

I AM SO EXCITED FOR HOLOEARTH I tried the beta and its already so good especially if you enjoy the social aspect of mmos

[@wbcnoun]

the beta seemed promising for sure! i hope they can get the servers to work under load though ! i think the demand will be very high

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

yagoo truly just so super amazing! our best girl!

[@sivel7493]

the topic of "metaverse" irks me, but well, we'll just have to see how this will pan out.

[@wbcnoun]

yeah it seems "metaverse" is a touchy subject because of multiple failed metaverse-type projects. we'll just have to see how the game actually plays like