YAMAHA CS10 - The Worlds Greatest Mono Synthesizer?

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THIS MUSEUM IS (NOT) OBSOLETE

THIS MUSEUM IS (NOT) OBSOLETE

Күн бұрын

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@Synthvoice1
@Synthvoice1 Жыл бұрын
I have a CS-30. The CS Mono Synth series are the most underrated Synth of all time
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
Also one of the most beautiful looking in my opinion.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Жыл бұрын
From memory, I thought the Yamaha CS-5 competed against the Korg MS-10, and the CS-10 against the MS-20. My first synth purchase was in 1981: I entered a music shop with enough cash to buy a CS-5 or MS-10. I left with a Moog Prodigy.
@DreamDeepCR
@DreamDeepCR 11 ай бұрын
Correct!
@reedsutter8485
@reedsutter8485 24 күн бұрын
The CS-5 was the entry-level model of the CS line during its production run (the black models.) The CS-10 was replaced by the CS-5 in the product line after one year of production. Both competed with the Korg MS-10. The CS-15 was most comparable in price and features to the Korg MS-20. The CS-30 was an excessively full-featured monosynth that had no equivalent in the Korg line, unless you maybe paired up an MS-20 with an MS-50 and treated them as one synth. As Sam mentions, the CS-20m, CS40m and were from different CS generation.
@jaredpreston3815
@jaredpreston3815 3 ай бұрын
This is the perfect going through of the sounds of a monosynth. Well done.
@benm8503
@benm8503 Жыл бұрын
Yo Yamaha can I get a classic synth and a snowmobile to go
@russ254
@russ254 Жыл бұрын
with suzuki, I can get an omnichord or a motorcycle - they’re about the same price
@UmmmmmmmWhat
@UmmmmmmmWhat Жыл бұрын
Ask Yamaha for a mini jet boat and a ford taurus SHO motor for me too dude
@Spoofsc
@Spoofsc Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the full concert grand piano!
@DannyO-j4q
@DannyO-j4q Жыл бұрын
Honda should make synths.
@kerzwhile
@kerzwhile Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best demos Ive yet seen on a proper vintage synth by anyone. Meat and potatoe stuff!! Love it! 😊
@skrapadelix
@skrapadelix Жыл бұрын
I keep one of these around for one sound only, a female voice patch. Essentially it’s just the saw wave with a little vibrato through the bandpass with high resonance and some glide. For some reason it sounds absolutely amazing, especially when layered over some vintage stringer.
@rachelar
@rachelar 8 ай бұрын
I read that as "Female Vintage Stripper" 🩰
@treennumbers
@treennumbers 11 ай бұрын
My first synth in the early 00's was a CS-15, still to this day my favorite sounding monosynth. Big tip: Plug a drum machine (one of those preset organ top boxes will do) and run it through the internal HPF. Bump the resonance and find the frequency of the bass drum: Instant 808 bass.
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
Do you know if the 808 bass trick would work with the CS-5 as well?
@reedsutter8485
@reedsutter8485 24 күн бұрын
@@MisAnnThorpe I haven't tried it, but it is the same filter and both have the ext in. Should behave the same.
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 24 күн бұрын
@@reedsutter8485 Thank you.
@neilloughran4437
@neilloughran4437 11 ай бұрын
Those old synths really do have a load of character! I remember a friend having a CS01 or maybe it was a CS-5... was so long ago now. The SY-1 I remember was quite a nice synth too... they had a lot of presence.
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 Жыл бұрын
well I've never seen such a good demonstration of the importance of a good envelope generator
@zackcolbourne6921
@zackcolbourne6921 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me about this beautiful symphasizer.
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Жыл бұрын
Lol I know a certain troll who got one of these, then sold it. He bought it because he thought it would get him views, he never used it, never intended to. I love it when old gear gets put in the hands of skilled and talented people. Thx for the upload.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Жыл бұрын
Who?
@DankePlace
@DankePlace 9 ай бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise your bestie John.
@persephonezuse
@persephonezuse Жыл бұрын
From the datasheets. Compared to the CS 10 the CS 5 lacks the separate VCF envelope, the envelope time switches, the legato / retirg switch and the switchable PW/PWM but gains a initial level pot instead of a switch for the VCA and a S+H wave for the LFO. The CS 15 is closer to two CS 5 than two CS 10.
@johnmiddleton4291
@johnmiddleton4291 Жыл бұрын
The 10 also has faster envelopes as I recall. They possibly might have longer times too.
@jasonakagecko
@jasonakagecko 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining my Yamaha CS10 to me a little better. Now I understand how everything works.❤
@Nervejam
@Nervejam Жыл бұрын
My first synth ever was a CS-5. Back in the 80s. Still have it..
@chriswareham
@chriswareham Жыл бұрын
I own a CS-5, and actually had two of them at one point. They're so simple, but sound absolutely fabulous. I sold one of the CS-5s to help fund a CS-30 that I had shipped from Japan, as it's the top of the range when it comes to the all black CS series. The CS-30 feels like Yamaha's answer to the Korg MS-20, as it's kind of semi-modular because you can use the plethora of switches to route things all over the place. Plus it has the cool 8 step sequencer (although the CS-30L version omitted that).
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
I've just bought a CS-5 - my first of the CS analogue synths - so can only imagine what a CS-15 or 30 can do. Let's just say that after being initially a little underwhelmed, I'm really coming to appreciate it.
@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512
@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512 Жыл бұрын
The CS series of CS5 to CS15, WOW! They so easily produce a warm low rip and twang that nothing else can match. It's all about that sound and these are the best! To me these are truly fantastic and create a sound to rival or probably even better the Minimoog. Having had them all I had to pick one to keep and I stuck with the CS15 due to space restraints. Find one, buy it, keep it. Nothing else is as easy or as instant to use, which off the bat sounds so good. A gem.
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
Did you ever own a CS-30?
@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512
@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512 3 ай бұрын
@@MisAnnThorpe Yes, it was rather large! A great synth and quite complexed. I sold it and kept the CS15.
@DannyO-j4q
@DannyO-j4q Жыл бұрын
Yamaha Released the CS-10, CS-30, and CS-30L in 1977. Yamaha wanted to make both the 10 and 30 less expensive and released the CS-5 & 15 the following year, in 1978. In 1982 they released the CS01and finally in 1984, the CS01 II. So the model numbers do not go in release sequence. There are many differences between the 2 oscillator CS-30, 30L, & 15, so I'll just go over the differences between the one oscillator CS-10 & CS-5. Both have the same VCO, 12db VCF, & the same VCA. The CS-5 has one envelope generator routed to both the VCF and VCA, and the CS-10 has two EGs - one each for the VCF & VCA. Additionally, the CS-10 has the 5x switches on both envelopes and a "hold" switch which bypasses the VCA's envelope and holds the note. The CS-10 has a switchable PW / PWM whereas the CS-5 has just PWM. The CS-5 has an LFO with square, sawtooth, and Sample and Hold whereas the CS-10's LFO does not have S&H. Both have Portamento, but the CS-10 has a slider next to the Pitch Bend and the CS-5 has a knob on the panel. Other Yamaha CS analog synths were the wooden cheek and partially preset CSs: the monophonic CS-15D & CS-20M, the duophonic CS-40M, and the polyphonic CS-70M. And finally there is the flagship CS-80, the scaled down CS-60, and the 4 voice poly CS-50. These all overlapped in release times making it somewhat confusing (throw in the concurrent Electone organs and it gets even worse.)
@tinfoilcat
@tinfoilcat Жыл бұрын
Nice little synth! I would love to see you having a go at the Minikorg 700S!
@mikemeengs5720
@mikemeengs5720 11 ай бұрын
Yeah...now THAT'S a synth with character! Mine is the oldest synth I own, and certainly the most vintage.
@TomRozel
@TomRozel Жыл бұрын
Well, that was a trip down memory lane as the CS10 was my very first synth. I did manage to obtain a CS30L in the early 2000s, which I think is more like the MS20. The CS30L didn’t have the sequencer but it was built into its own case. And was f***ing heavy! A real backbreaker. Great demo btw you really showed the CS10 at its best. (I loved the x5 switch as you could make envelopes last foreveeeeeeeer.)
@TomRozel
@TomRozel 11 ай бұрын
@@group-musicYou lucky, lucky bastard! 😉😃
@lancegfoin9117
@lancegfoin9117 11 ай бұрын
I had the CS-5 and that was awesome! Nice to see the Jen SX1000 in the background there - I had that one too! 😁
@michaelcarey
@michaelcarey Жыл бұрын
Love this video! I had a CS10 in the 80s, loved the fat bass sounds I could make. I ran it through a couple of BOSS guitar effect pedals (chorus and flanger). I also fed external audio into it that ran through the filters and envelope generator. I foolishly traded it for a Commodore 64 Jellinghaus MIDI cartridge in 1985. I wish I still had it. I recently designed a replica JMS C64 MIDI Cart... but there is no way I could build a replacement CS10.
@Rr0gu3_5uture
@Rr0gu3_5uture Жыл бұрын
The CS-5 and CS-10 has a really nice filter! I mainly used to use my old CS-5 for its external audio input TBH. Bunging breaks and pads thru it and the like.
@giuseppedanieli7878
@giuseppedanieli7878 11 ай бұрын
This was my very first synt! Used to put the guitar into and use the LFO saw tooth.
@eyeprod3101
@eyeprod3101 11 ай бұрын
I've got a Yamaha CS-15, a 2004 FZ6, plus vintage 80's acoustic and electric guitars from them. I used to own a 72 CS5e, which sounds like a synth, but is a 2-stroke street bike. Yamaha rules.
@duncan-rmi
@duncan-rmi Жыл бұрын
I have a cs30, the one with the little sequencer. I shall be buried with it.
@kbollo123
@kbollo123 11 ай бұрын
I have a CS5,, got it in 1981,,, 2nd hand, still working well,, sounds great with some Reverb and Delay,,,
@Psykelektric
@Psykelektric Жыл бұрын
Great clip of a great synth. I've just had a filter control socket fitted to my CS-10 which I thoroughly recommend.
@andrewcakebread3317
@andrewcakebread3317 Жыл бұрын
I love the poster of the electromagnetic spectrum on the wall. Just really cool.
@hadror13
@hadror13 Жыл бұрын
I love mine - it's truly bread and butter :) very nice filter and can get wacky too. Always craved a CS30
@mglohmeyer
@mglohmeyer Жыл бұрын
Primary difference between CS-5 and CS-10 is the CS-10 has separate VCF and VCA envelopes. The CS-15 is very different because it has 2 synth paths (2 VCOs, 2 VCFs, 2 VCAs, 2 envelopes) and you can run them as two isolated separate synths or mix them together or cross mix the VCOs to two different VCF/VCA paths. Even the MS-20 doesn't do that. The CS-30 and CS-30L take this dual path thing even further, with 3 envelopes and a lot more control on how you route the LFO, the envelopes, and the VCOs. The CS-30 has an 8 step sequencer. The CS-30L has some better performance controls (similar to the CS-15). Sadly, the CS-30 lacks these performance controls. There are other differences between these models that really set each one apart such as dual vs. single CV/gate in or out controls, single vs. split audio outputs, different LFO waveforms and routing methods, different performance controls like brilliance (filter) on the CS15 and CS30L that are lacking on the CS-5 and CS30. The CS-10 and CS-30/30L are the early generation of the CS "black" line. The CS-5 and CS-15 came later, so you will see that the CS-30 is very odd (more like a modular synth) whereas the CS-5 and CS-15 are more like common synths. The CS15D, CS20M, and CS40M are a different generation that come after the CS "black" series. These are a lot more like common mono synths. These all have microprocessor controlled presets. The CS15D is more of a preset synth with some basic synth controls, but the 20M and 40M are more full mono synths with presets (actually the 40M can work as a two voice synth). The CS-70M is a poly synth but of the same series as the CS20M and CS40M, and of course the CS50, CS60, and CS80 are completely different animals (more similar to the CS-70M, but very different). That being said the entire CS line uses similar or the same IC's and circuit designs from the CS-5 all the way up to the CS-80, and the CS-30/30L even has one CS-80 style 5 control envelope (Initial Level, Attack Level, Attack, Delay, Release). I have a CS-30, CS-15, and CS-10 and love them all. I also have some Korg synths of the same era (MS-20, 700 FS, 770). All these synths have that 70's Japanese mono synth sound. Korg and Yamaha shared a lot of ideas and technology back them. More radical sounding using cross mods, dual multi-mode filters, and crazy LFO and envelope capabilities compared to other mono synths of the time. That more radical sound is why they tend to be less popular than Moog, but the 70's Korg and Yamaha synths are still very nice synths.
@TwinCitiesOxygen
@TwinCitiesOxygen 2 ай бұрын
What’s ur fave of the Yamahas
@mglohmeyer
@mglohmeyer Ай бұрын
@@TwinCitiesOxygen The CS-30 is my favorite, because it is literally a modular synth without patch wires - so versatile. It is the most unique mono synth I have. You can route the 2 oscillators, 2 filters, 2 VCOs, and 3 envelopes in a wide variety of ways, or treat it as two independent synths. Plus the sequencer adds a lot allowing one synth path to be sequenced while you play the keyboard for the other, or sequence both, or use the sequencer with keyboard control for pitch shifting ARP/sequences. But the CS-15 is a close second. It can act as two isolated single oscillator synths, but you can also combine them in many ways. Plus the CS-15 has a few more useful live performance features like the brilliance control which adjusts both filters at the same time, and some different external control features the CS-30 doesn't quite do as well. Neither replaces the other. I use them for different purposes. The CS-30L doesn't have the sequencer, but it has the single control for affecting both filters. So the CS-30L and CS-15 are more alike - both are more performance oriented. It would be neat to have a CS-40M or maybe CS-20M, but they are more generic synths. Cool synths, but I have that kind of synth covered in many other ways. Of course the CS-70M is a standout, but not worth the usual selling price in my opinion. Plus complexity of the circuits on all the CS-xxM line (due to patch saving - lots of ADCs and DACs and CPU controlled) means more to go wrong for a vintage synth.
@reedsutter8485
@reedsutter8485 24 күн бұрын
@@TwinCitiesOxygen I had a CS-10 and currently have a CS-15, CS-20m and an SK-50d. The CS-20m is my favorite mono ever. I had a broken CS40m at one point and no one could seem to repair it, so I don't know what I'm missing out on there. I bought the CS-15 this year for ~$800 and it is a steal for that price. A marvelous sounding synth with a great keybed, expression controls, interesting modulation possibilities and the CS filters that I am addicted to hearing. But the CS20m has a big fat sub oscillator that you can mix in after the filters to restore exactly the right amount of bass that you need. It is magical.
@mglohmeyer
@mglohmeyer 17 күн бұрын
@@reedsutter8485 Ah, a post filter sub osc on the CS20m. I didn't know that. The CS-30 also has a sub osc that mixes in after the filters, which is very useful. Now I see one of the reasons people like the low end of the CS-20m so much. Thanks.
@reedsutter8485
@reedsutter8485 15 күн бұрын
@@mglohmeyer I didn't realize that was true to the CS-30 as well. I do miss it on the CS-15. Now you have me jonesing to step up another ring in the black face series. Thanks!
@higamerXD
@higamerXD Жыл бұрын
maaaan you really do just got all the cool shit, love the channel mate this thing sounds way too cool,
@madgear303
@madgear303 Жыл бұрын
I have a pristine CS10. The M&S switch is the difference between multi and single trigger of the envelope. The annoying thing regarding the cv gate is that it operates on hz per octave and not volt per octave. Fortunately the old bass station rack offers both so functions well as a midi cv gate converter. The multiband filter on this synth is beautiful. I’m glad I got mine and it’s definitely a keeper.
@sonicpulp9417
@sonicpulp9417 4 ай бұрын
Best demo of this.. in good hands
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Жыл бұрын
4:49 great impersonation of the legend himself
@We.Are.Lockhart
@We.Are.Lockhart Жыл бұрын
My dreamteam were a CS-10, MS-10 and a Bass Station Rack, which also fed Midi to CV into the Korg and Yamaha.
@crankenstein
@crankenstein Жыл бұрын
Just bought one of these. Love it!
@althejazzman
@althejazzman Жыл бұрын
I love that wooden thud from that super short decay.
@padders1068
@padders1068 Жыл бұрын
Sam, as ever great work, you are a mad musical & technical genius! 🙂😎🤓❤
@giffypopvids
@giffypopvids Жыл бұрын
I literally sold mine to fund a trip to Paris. It was worth it but DAMN do I miss that CS10 so bad
@TreModular
@TreModular Жыл бұрын
Nice video as always! You mentioned that Initial lvl and Envelope lvl are the same thing on both synths but named differently. But at least on CS80 initial lvl controls the start and end point of the envelope (the floor). So it does not just attenuate the whole envelope. And the attack lvl basically attenuates the the top part of envelope by adjusting how high the attack goes.
@entropybentwhistle
@entropybentwhistle Жыл бұрын
Is Nick’s PWM fetish the most well-known running gag in synthdom?
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 Жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen him for a while, is he in PWM detox ?
@Mind_Idiot
@Mind_Idiot 11 ай бұрын
freerunning gag
@eatshrots
@eatshrots Жыл бұрын
I think S is "single" trigger and M is "multiple", that's how it's called on my KARP 2600
@dodgingrain3695
@dodgingrain3695 Жыл бұрын
I think it sounds really good.
@extendedclubmix420
@extendedclubmix420 6 ай бұрын
You can sequence the cs15 as two separate synthesizer. 2 cs10s really. It makes a great drum machine haha. All pairs nicely with an ms20 for some serious minimal synth and early industrial vibes. Got a whole hz/volt band going.
@NotIT
@NotIT Жыл бұрын
@8:30 had flashes of Flat Eric going through my mind!
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton Жыл бұрын
Human League used one of these on Dare. Remember reading about it in the sleeve notes when I was a kid. Always wondered what it was!
@tubthump
@tubthump Жыл бұрын
I was checking out Dare vinyl lp in hmv yesterday. Feels a lot weightier than the one I bought back in the day. 28 quid takes the piss though.
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton Жыл бұрын
@@tubthump don't be silly. Just buy it second hand for a quid on CD.
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns Жыл бұрын
The Dare album is one my favorites from the Human League. Most of the album is a lot darker in sound and texture then the well known hit single Don’t You Want Me Baby. The songs Darkness and Seconds in particular are my favorites from the album. The Travelogue album has some good stuff too like Beeing Boiled, I wonder what synth they used on the lead part as really stands out as the driver of the song.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
@@tubthump I've seen people claim the extra price is purely for the denser vinyl, but the truth is all the vinyl pressing plants are fully booked-up now and offer higher prices to people who want to jump the queue. They're also opposing new pressing (or injection-moulding, was crap back in the day but is allegedly good enough now; guess we'll see) plants being built, because of course that would make the price sensible again and we can't be having that!
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
I thought that they used a CS-15 but I could be wrong . . . I could be right!
@exiletomars
@exiletomars 11 ай бұрын
I have a CS-5 and even with the most simple model Yamaha made I think it is a fantastic synthesizer.
@kokopelli314
@kokopelli314 Жыл бұрын
Used this as my bass synth during the early 80s
@dendord
@dendord Жыл бұрын
That lowpass has some MIGHTY lowend, always had a soft spot for yamaha gear, good stuff sam!
@NunyaB1s
@NunyaB1s 11 ай бұрын
I want that poster behind our protagonist! Looks awesome!
@TheSynthnut
@TheSynthnut Жыл бұрын
Proving that single oscillator synths don't have to be wallflowers.
@jason3898
@jason3898 Жыл бұрын
8:40 Flat beat (Official Video with Flat Sammy)
@Kangsteri
@Kangsteri Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Sounds just like Mr. Oizo :D
@oraz.
@oraz. Жыл бұрын
I think it sounds friggin awesome
@apairrofscissors
@apairrofscissors Жыл бұрын
This video is (not) scuffed, and I'm here for it.
@Zanith50
@Zanith50 11 ай бұрын
that sound @4:40 is sick reminds me of combichrist never surrender
@paueraka5097
@paueraka5097 Жыл бұрын
yes it is, all cs series is wonderfulll!!!!
@Heathcliff_hensel
@Heathcliff_hensel Жыл бұрын
this was a reminder why we love vintage synths
@geoffk777
@geoffk777 Жыл бұрын
As a Bass synth, these are absolutely awesome--among the best ever. What's good are the snappy envelopes and nice PWM. What's bad is the limited LFO mod, especially on pitch. Yamaha intended this to replicate acoustic instruments, so the LFO is more for subtle vibrato than wild sirens. In general, not a great sound-effects machine, but a very playable synth.
@SabcatPrinting
@SabcatPrinting Жыл бұрын
I had one… i can’t remember if it was a 10 or a 15 though. The reason i cannot remember well is because a friend who worked at the music shop said “its a shame its not the model above.. the CS20” but it stands a chance he may not have known about the 15 existing. I remember loving the pwm and band pass filter. I had it mid to late 90s… so sequencing it wasnt an option. Back then my mixing desk output went straight to stereo cassette…. So the CS didnt get integrated into my music much. It was a great fun hands on synth though. (Well, still is).
@Bata9999
@Bata9999 Жыл бұрын
CS-10 is a cool synth. One thing you can do on these is run the audio out back into the external in for feedback tricks. This might work better on the CS-15 because it has a low and high out where the 10 just has 1 output I believe. CS-15 also has a headphone out which I never use but I guess it's there. Remembering the yamaha synths isn't that hard you can think of them in 3 groups. The 5,10, 15, and 30 are all one family. The 20m, 40m, and 70m all have memory (hence the m) 20m and 40m are similar but 70m is different I believe. 50, 60, and 80 are the third family of CS. There's also the oddball CS-15d which I don't know much about but I don't think it has much in common with any other CS.
@DreamDeepCR
@DreamDeepCR 11 ай бұрын
I had a CS-10! My first synth!! ♥
@DannyO-j4q
@DannyO-j4q Жыл бұрын
Human League's Dare was already mentioned, but there's scant other info on the monophonic CS synths being used in recordings. Towa Tei used either a CS-5 or CS-10 on Deee-Lite's album Dewdrops in the Garden on the song, Music Selector is the Soul Reflector. It's a repeating riff with the filter slowly opening.
@bigjoescientist
@bigjoescientist Жыл бұрын
Depeche Mode’s Speak and Spell LP?
@DannyO-j4q
@DannyO-j4q Жыл бұрын
Right! Vince Clarke complained about carrying his CS-5 on the trains and subways in order to get to their TOTP gig. He said that he had the heaviest synth in the band.@@bigjoescientist
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Жыл бұрын
Didn't Aphex Tein use one?
@DannyO-j4q
@DannyO-j4q 11 ай бұрын
Probably, he has used a lot of synths over time. @@fortheloveofnoise
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise Indeed he did; a CS-5.
@DannyO-j4q
@DannyO-j4q Жыл бұрын
I've had my CS-10 for over 30 years - single oscillator, 2 (very fast) envelope generators (one for the VCF and one for the VCA.) LFO is audible range, so it's a little weird. You can sequence it with the Korg SQ-1 (set to 8v/oct.) But you can also lower the SQ-1's output voltage which will drop the CS-10 an octave. The Yamaha CS has a much tamer filter than the Korg MS-10 or 20, so it's a different sound entirely. I like the CS-10's square wave way down low. I also like to control the VCF's envelope - it give you a lot of sound shaping ability in addition to the Cut Off and Rez. Add a delay, reverb, or chorus pedal, and you have something a lot larger.
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
I own two MS10s which I truly love and an MS20 (later filter type). I've just acquired a CS-5 and I'm very impressed. I'd gladly swap one of my MS10s for a CS10.
@UltanMashup
@UltanMashup 8 ай бұрын
Excellent contribution to culture. No Spandau Ballet's best song without it, to cut a long story short!
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
Chant No.1 was miles better in my opinion. I also prefer The Freeze, which I'm pretty certain also featured the CS-10.Actually, it might well have been their main synth on their debut album; Journeys to glory.
@MattGreerMusic
@MattGreerMusic Жыл бұрын
I'd happily make room for any CS synth in my studio. The only one I own is a CS-5 but even that basic, simple-as-the-come, analog synth sounds phenomenal. Those old 70's era, single osc synthesizers all sound fatter than they would seem to have any right to. My MicroMoog is the same way.
@BobingerAudio
@BobingerAudio 11 ай бұрын
We have one at Synthesizer Studio Berlin. I love it for some fat and dirty leads and basses. The audio rate LFO is just amazing
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b Жыл бұрын
GET THE CS15 , ITS MENTAL
@DestroyER82
@DestroyER82 Жыл бұрын
I think the most fundamental thing is that all CS synths (excl. CS-01) share 100% same components for audio path. Same VCO IC, same VCF IC, same amps etc.. different is just their sheer amount (+ some special ones for waveshaping in more expensive models) and all the possible magic you can do with it. :) And CS-10 > MS-10 anyday! ;-)
@hardcorehouse
@hardcorehouse Жыл бұрын
I have long wondered about the relative sounds throughout the CS series; and yes, the CSO one sounds very impressive, but different from the others. I didn’t know they all had the same internals for sound generation, but I always thought it would’ve made sense.
@firenado4295
@firenado4295 Жыл бұрын
damn I refreshed the home page at the right time didn't I lol
@ReubenSound
@ReubenSound Жыл бұрын
That noise at 0:42 was the sound of a clown car honking outside at a BMW driver not indicating.
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Жыл бұрын
Nice demo 2x👍
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 Жыл бұрын
i'm not at all familiar with this synth, but I like it alot. Sounds awesome.
@truthministry.
@truthministry. Жыл бұрын
I owned one, and a CS-5, but if those voice chips go you are looking to pay around minimum £200, before you get it repaired. Nice sounds, but glad I sold mine due to the difficulty sourcing parts when they go wrong.
@hadror13
@hadror13 Жыл бұрын
the difference is an extra envelope.. Try the long envelope mode - or a long lfo trigger great for drony stuff and also BD
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Жыл бұрын
I have wanted one for years and the price keeps going up, I figure this video will make the price jump again, so I finally pulled the trigger today on one. I almost got a CS-15 instead, but the CS-10 goes to a much higher rate than the 5 and 15.
@TemporallyYours
@TemporallyYours Жыл бұрын
I have a CS-01, not really relevant to the convo, but just wanted to bring it into the CS talk 😅😂
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
That also has PWM that I'm sure Nick Batt would most approve of!
@richielong8822
@richielong8822 11 ай бұрын
If you ever get your hands on a Yamaha SK50D, please do a video on it or at least highlight it in a video. Thanks 👍🏼
@janhelmle8173
@janhelmle8173 Жыл бұрын
Is this the Moog MS-20?
@Nobody-hc2bo
@Nobody-hc2bo Жыл бұрын
3:29 oh hey Flume
@olsonwaters4116
@olsonwaters4116 11 ай бұрын
would you suggest i get this over an sh2? I love them both
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
You could buy two, maybe three of these for the price of an SH-2 and patch them together.
@neurokinetik
@neurokinetik 11 ай бұрын
Quite a useful little synth, IMO
@kevinnashuk
@kevinnashuk Жыл бұрын
Did they use these on 70s Dr Who?
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Жыл бұрын
They used a CS-80 on the 80s Dr Who theme.
@thisisnev
@thisisnev Жыл бұрын
@@unclemick-synths And an Odyssey.
@GoodfaYou
@GoodfaYou 11 ай бұрын
The Best Thing about this synth is it’s external input ..Run anything thru the filter and it sounds better
@timhowes7088
@timhowes7088 10 ай бұрын
Run itself through its own external input.. use patch cable from headphone output to external input … new area of sounds unlocked! I use this hack on the CS 15 - adds a bit of scream/grit 🙂
@EdEditz
@EdEditz Жыл бұрын
Wow, that sounds very 'Aphex Twin' ish. Love the sound of that filter.
@toitoitoy
@toitoitoy Жыл бұрын
Richard actually used one, there is the whole story with CS-5 and his engravings on it.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz Жыл бұрын
@@toitoitoy Oh cool! I didn't know that but the sound is so recognizable.
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 3 ай бұрын
@@toitoitoy Yes, so a synth that many turn their noses up at was used by Richard D. James a lot!
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, classic. But I still put the MS-20 or the Pro-One above it. HOWEVER, it's in contention for the best single oscillator mono synth.
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Жыл бұрын
Try an AS1 for your Pro 1 needs, surface wise, you can't do much, but get a MIDI controller and you have the cheapest alternative to a P1
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Жыл бұрын
@@DankePlace A Pioneer AS-1? I mean, that's 3 times the price of the Behringer Clone... But I don't need one anyway, I get that oscillator syncbass with my Nord Modular.
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Жыл бұрын
@@RegebroRepairs I thought you meant an original Pro One. AS1s can be bought super cheap, Behringer P1 here is $500, AS1 I can get bnib for $589. I already have 2 and almost bought a 3rd. That's a P6 voice for very little, sounds great too.
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Жыл бұрын
@@DankePlace I did mean an original. OK, the AS-1 was cheaper than I thought, but the Behringer Pro-1 is $300, not $500... Anyway, as pointed out, I'm not interested in either.
@johnmiddleton4291
@johnmiddleton4291 Жыл бұрын
The 5 and 10 are from different CS series in different years, confusingly. The 10 and 30 came out in 1977 and the 5 and 15 came in 1978.
@blenderbuch
@blenderbuch Жыл бұрын
So i want Johnny to talk and play! And also he on a ms10 😂
@_demitri
@_demitri Жыл бұрын
Do the Casio CZ series next
@spacemodular
@spacemodular Жыл бұрын
Can you patch it to the MS-10 or 20? Don’t they share a different CV standard than Moog/Roland etc…
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Жыл бұрын
off top of my head yamaha cs10 is hz/octave (linear) same as the korg MS range, however i think yamaha is V trig and korg is S trig, but its a simple converter requiring only a transistor and a resistor if you are feeling fruity, you can fit them in the top of a big jack
@tubthump
@tubthump Жыл бұрын
Everyone loves pulse-width modulation
@gumse666
@gumse666 Жыл бұрын
Nice demo. I think I have a couple of Yamaha mono synths in the attic. Perhaps time to revive them. ps. ffs dust it off.
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Жыл бұрын
It's not that dusty? Got a bit of patina :)
@imlxh7126
@imlxh7126 Жыл бұрын
14:03 Karl Bartos wants to know your location....
@jakobymaster
@jakobymaster Жыл бұрын
could you get more wobbly ancxiety inducing stand please?
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Жыл бұрын
I use plywood held up by sawhorses...you would faint 😂
@sms3037
@sms3037 11 ай бұрын
The CS series in 3 divisions: 1) CS50, CS60, CS80 2) CS5, CS10, CS15, CS30 3) CS15D, CS20M, CS40M, CS70M
@erickvond6825
@erickvond6825 Жыл бұрын
Nice bit of Kraftwerk you were playing there for awhile.
@botany500kojak
@botany500kojak Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Yamaha CS01...
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 Жыл бұрын
S = Single trigger M = Multi trigger
@byvalle
@byvalle 9 ай бұрын
cs 15 D too
@rarianfields
@rarianfields Жыл бұрын
Thank god you missed the audio rate envelope loops, otherwise people might start believing the vid title ;p
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Жыл бұрын
Wait I didn't see the lfo to envelope trigger switch?
@rarianfields
@rarianfields Жыл бұрын
You gotta mod the envs with the LFO ;)@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@rarianfields
@rarianfields Жыл бұрын
You can start getting into some very far out territory@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Жыл бұрын
@@rarianfieldsdidn't we do that on the vid? I put lfo to max and modulated the filters.
@rarianfields
@rarianfields Жыл бұрын
You did, but there's also other flavors to be found doing the same with the amp env and then more when you combine lfo to both filter and amp. It really opens up the tonal palette. Lots of metallic FM like sounds in there. Anyway, good vid. The core tone of this thing is beautiful and those snappy envs are lovely. @@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect Жыл бұрын
Yeah, see, speaking as a massive MS-10 fanboy.... I think this one is a bit better... certainly got more things on it. Needs more LFOs though... but I dream of something stupid, like 20, LFOs or something.
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