Yamaha DX7 FM Synthesis Tutorial | Algorithms Explained

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madFame

madFame

7 жыл бұрын

NEW FM Synthesis Explained series WATCH NOW! • Operators & Algorithms...
In this FM synthesis tutorial, I'll explain FM algorithms and they are used. Be sure to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE and hit the BELL ICON so you know when I've uploaded new content.
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This FM Synthesis series is great for those who are new to FM synths and own any FM synthesizer - Classic DX, FM-X/Montage, reface DX, Volca FM, Dexed, Arturia DX7 V etc.
Thanks for watching!

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@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 3 жыл бұрын
Long ago, in the infancy of the DX7, I rented one for a week ahead of a recording, having only very basic experience of a 2 oscillator analogue instrument. I remember it was a huge adventure working on sounds by ear, understanding very little of the synthesis by algorithm. The studio engineer was astounded that I'd managed to find what I wanted. In ten minutes you have taught me how to understand the basic requirements of using fm algorithms creatively. Amazing and touching to see a DX7 in use after almost 40 years😱
@BobIrving2
@BobIrving2 4 жыл бұрын
He's not wrong. This is the best video on this topic.
@alexdbf2281
@alexdbf2281 3 жыл бұрын
Best channel on this topic absolutely
@Budch
@Budch 4 жыл бұрын
Universal videos, not for only DX7. This videos helped me in programming... Sega Megadrive :)
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Megadrive, nice!!
@TheZmusicGroup
@TheZmusicGroup 3 жыл бұрын
Also watching to better understand the sound capabilities of the Yamaha YM2612 inside the Megadrive! FM synth is interesting and both simple and complicated. I'm amazed by those who can create almost all kind of sounds with FM.
@NunyaB1s
@NunyaB1s 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to learn how Kurzweil does their FM Synthesis (it's more organic, but also, more problematic because of that.) All the basics keep pointing back to Yamaha and the DX7. Kudos for using the oscilloscope! I hope you keep doing some more basic breakdowns as to how the operators work with each other. The Kurzweil lacks the ability to have feedback oscillators, but something tells me that this isn't a dealbreaker.
@grizcuz
@grizcuz 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame you don't have access to a time machine. You could have made yourself a small fortune through your FM/DX knowledge and skills in the 80's. Unless....you've spent the last 30 years understanding how FM works? I owned a DX100 and literally half my small town tried to get their head around it without much success and plenty of head scratching, swearing and mumbling. I steered well clear of anything FM until I bought a Digitone last year. Which I'm still a long way from mastering, but your videos are the clearest explanations I've found so far.
@madFame
@madFame 3 жыл бұрын
I know right, I'd be one of the legends of FM programming, they'd write songs about my adventures. The truth is I've only been programming FM for 3 years now. I figured it out within a few days after years of scratching my head too. Since then I've been trying to share the goods with you good people!
@iaroslavmelnik6915
@iaroslavmelnik6915 3 жыл бұрын
Same in USSR. Everyone was crazy how to get patches for dx.
@joeschneider67
@joeschneider67 6 жыл бұрын
Minute 4. That electric piano sound made DX7 the FM piano ever.
@NinjaDeathTeddy
@NinjaDeathTeddy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. My synthesis teacher showed me this and linked it in his blog. I'm currently learning about FM synthesis. I think it's become quite popular in dance music again these days. But I think not that many people have the time or the patience to program something like a DX7. Most people don't stray far beyond the realm of a simple FM bass tone so it's nice to see your videos.
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi L P, thanks for watching and say thanks to your teacher for sharing the video. I'm putting together a basic FM series regarding my programming workflow. It's actually super intuitive and simple, I've come to realize the DX7 isn't as poorly designed as many people think. All the best with your programming!
@NinjaDeathTeddy
@NinjaDeathTeddy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I would be keen to check it out. I'm starting to understand the basics of FM, but i'm still perplexed as to which algorithms to use and which harmonics to use. But i'm sure i'll get it with time.
@jegl1012
@jegl1012 2 жыл бұрын
Great great explanation …. I play guitar and I just got a new controller so I can learn to play chords on virtual synths/pianos. I love the DX7 sounds
@fiix7026
@fiix7026 3 жыл бұрын
Just Thank you. Perfect for a lockdown and a fresh download of DeXeD to have a fun weekend.
@madFame
@madFame 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@macronencer
@macronencer 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! The content was clear and concise, no hesitation, wasted time or irrelevant comments. You clearly planned before you shot it. Thank you for your professionalism.
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I do indeed plan ahead before shooting. Many refined scripts, removing as many words as possible is essential. Aided with some helpful diagrams and practical examples I hope these videos will help an absolute novice understand FM/DX synths in the least amount of time possible. Thanks for watching!
@macronencer
@macronencer 6 жыл бұрын
Well it is definitely helping me! Thanks again :)
@rjbush7955
@rjbush7955 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best explanations I've seen on FM algorithms. Now I know which type I need to get an analog-ish sound out of an FM synth. Great!
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ, I'm glad to hear this video was helpful! Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more Fm and other synth tutorials. Feel free to recommend and spread the word on my videos!
@TheGrooveyOwl
@TheGrooveyOwl 7 жыл бұрын
This is such a great way to teach someone like me to be able to immediately understand the synthesis of these machines and approach their programming in a new conceptual way. Thank you! Keep it up!
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your encouragement, I'm glad these videos are working for you! If you know anybody who can benefit from these tutorials please share and stay tuned, and thank you for your subscription! Every subscription gives me great motivation to produce more videos for you all so thank you for making it worth the effort.
@jxclark13
@jxclark13 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are very well done and much appreciated. I particularly like the fact that you will play the sound as you make changes so we can hear how the parameter changes affect the sound. Strangely, this is not a common practice for KZbin tutorialists. I look forward to more!
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Hi John, thanks for taking time to send a message, much appreciated! I've also noticed DX and FM synthesis tutorials have a tendency to turn into science lectures (and even worse for having no audio/visual examples!). I'm glad these videos are helpful and easy to follow, more to come!
@rawl747
@rawl747 6 жыл бұрын
I've watched all 5 of your DX7 tutorials and must complement you on the very professional level of presentation and production. Adding the graphics above the keyboard is an excellent touch. And, I love the o-scope! I look forward to seeing more and will post a link to the first one on the Yamahamusciansforum.com site which has lots of DX7 members.
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there, thank you for the support and kind words! I'm currently editing a video on the frequency edit functions and also editing the video for the next custom patch. I'll be branching out into other synths soon but will continue to add custom patches for the DX7. There's still a few more edit functions to demonstrate as well, so stay tuned. Thanks for subscribing!
@ganzleichtzumerken
@ganzleichtzumerken 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your DX7 Vids. Very Helpful. Nice explained.
@J-Loe
@J-Loe Жыл бұрын
Incredible clear I’ve been wanti;g a video like this for quite a while. ThankYou!
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm veeery slowly working my way into programming FM, and I'm trying to understand it within the workframe of the DX7.
@warrengday
@warrengday 6 жыл бұрын
Spectacular. I know nothing about FM synthesis, this video explained things from scratch clearly and quickly.
@vladimirpotrosky7855
@vladimirpotrosky7855 5 жыл бұрын
This video is perfectly done. Very informative.
@Manu-ho3bw
@Manu-ho3bw 2 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@thefool2007
@thefool2007 11 ай бұрын
Just discovered this. Always wanted to understand FM algorithms- thanks. Cool scope mod.
@DallinJeppsonMusic
@DallinJeppsonMusic Жыл бұрын
You teach this so well! This was soooo helpful, thanks!
@DanielOrtiz-fm5lq
@DanielOrtiz-fm5lq 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation
@cubdukat
@cubdukat 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Before this the only thing I knew about algorithms was that if you wanted to do a drawbar organ sound, you picked the last one with all carriers and no modulators.
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Larry thanks for your message, you're not alone there! I've made the videos in a way that relates FM functions to more practical/ musical uses rather than diving too deep into the science of it all. I hope from here I can reach more people and turn the DX experience into something fun and useful. Thanks for watching!
@SpiderInStockings
@SpiderInStockings 7 жыл бұрын
This was an incredibly well done video. Very straightforward; very simple terms. Direct and to the point. Keep up the good work!
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support, I'm glad the videos are helpful!
@jackcimino8822
@jackcimino8822 6 жыл бұрын
Carrier algorithms can also be used to create PPG-style bells.
@Stefftronic
@Stefftronic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank's! this was really enlighting! easy to understand, now I head on to your other vid's. cheers!
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea you could do a 'basic stack' in FM. AWESOME. Sounds a little different too!
@Funkypepino
@Funkypepino 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate ! It helps. I’m going to have a look to your other videos
@justinleokennedy
@justinleokennedy 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Thanks for posting.
@bandfromtheband9445
@bandfromtheband9445 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, so much for posting!!!
@lanmichaelmix2818
@lanmichaelmix2818 3 жыл бұрын
you did a good job dude,i don't buy the dx7 but i have dexed vst which is similar.i thought the signal comes from bottom to top
@Boretoto
@Boretoto 6 жыл бұрын
The Best explanation!
@ADibley
@ADibley 4 жыл бұрын
Great, you explain FM synthesis really well. Recently got a modx, and getting to grips with the fmx engine.
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I hope you enjoy the MODX, its a great synth! You'll find the numbering system for operators is backwards to the DX7 so that will make programming my patches a little tricky. The sounds are identical though!
@mariabr8954
@mariabr8954 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for these videos. Can't wait to see more of your tutorials!!
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouraging words Maryam! I'll be uploading more soon. I'm refreshing this FM Explained series, the first episode is up and the next one is out this week. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbIZmCdiMRnopI
@uh6537
@uh6537 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful! Thanks!
@buncho888
@buncho888 6 жыл бұрын
This is great content, subscribed!
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your subscription, I appreciate your support for the channel!
@rayb7402
@rayb7402 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks well explained!
@marcuspearson6214
@marcuspearson6214 5 жыл бұрын
brilliant video, I have a dx9 and rely on sysex files, I may have a go at making my own sounds now
@Metamophisis
@Metamophisis 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just got this keyboard 🎹 ordered from reverb on Friday.
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one! I hope you enjoy it :)
@NiharSavala
@NiharSavala 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial of the basics. Thanks. Will try to use this info to edit my FM8 & Reface DX patches.
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for tuning in, I'm sure these tutorials will help on other FM platforms. I've tried my best to generalise some of the concepts although the interface and functions may be different.
@12invinyl
@12invinyl 6 жыл бұрын
Great Job
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, best teaching on algorithms yet!
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jenny, my pleasure. Thanks for watching!
@fatboislim1902
@fatboislim1902 6 жыл бұрын
was pretty gold...helped me grasp the ideas ...now off to practical application
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck my friend, I hope the video helps!
@gonzalodominguez229
@gonzalodominguez229 3 жыл бұрын
very very nice!!
@jboston4660
@jboston4660 4 жыл бұрын
This is superb, thankyoU!
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
@J Boston Thank you, I'm glad it helped. I've actually started a new series condensing this info and improving the presentation (my mic was terrible when I recorded my first videos). Check it out FM Synthesis Explained Episode One here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbIZmCdiMRnopI
@gubbin909
@gubbin909 4 жыл бұрын
This was pretty handy
@chopov11
@chopov11 Жыл бұрын
wonderful
@PanikingCamel
@PanikingCamel 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching this video. It's one of my first ones and the audio quality is really bad! I've been making updated versions of this FM series you can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbIZmCdiMRnopI
@davidcottrell1308
@davidcottrell1308 Жыл бұрын
Very Cool!
@MattSpendlove
@MattSpendlove Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@madFame
@madFame Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching :)
@govinbaraik2833
@govinbaraik2833 6 жыл бұрын
keep make this type of videos 👍
@hjaltiagustsson7905
@hjaltiagustsson7905 4 жыл бұрын
Eye opening!
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Be sure to check out the updated version of this video series here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbIZmCdiMRnopI
@carl.wunsche
@carl.wunsche 9 ай бұрын
useful thankz
@user-je7ju4sv9u
@user-je7ju4sv9u Жыл бұрын
Im a FAN, apriciate that the works you have been put in. Im just got my first ever DX series, the legens on Dx7. All your tips and video helping me a lot to figure out what i gonna do to explored and learn with DX7 I have no idea how could you built in an oscilloscope to your Dx, please let us know, i found out that the oscilloscope screen but i dont know how to connect with Dx7 Thanks for all the things that you have done Peace
@madFame
@madFame Жыл бұрын
Hi Kiet, thanks for watching the channel I hope you learn a lot on your new DX7. My oscilloscope is a DSO138, you can buy on eBay, Amazon, AliExpress etc. To connect it to my DX7, I plug the DSO138 output (BNC connector) to the DX7 headphone output (1/4inch jack connector). You can buy cables or adapters to make this work online as well. Search "bnc 1/4 inch stereo jack cable" in Google, I hope that helps.
@9FM303
@9FM303 4 жыл бұрын
Gracias : )
@mraymond77
@mraymond77 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Wondering if you've heard of the elektron digitone that was recently released and if that peaks your fm synthesis interest at all?
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, I have heard of the Digitone but I haven't used it. It looks like a great unit with great sound capabilities. Definitely worth a go by the looks of it!
@mraymond77
@mraymond77 6 жыл бұрын
madFame thanks for the reply! I’m a fm noob, and it perked my interest in fm, which brought me here! Thanks for the educational material
@old_romans
@old_romans 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and thank you. Also, how does one add a waveform monitor screen to the synth?
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there, thanks for watching! I use an inexpensive digital oscilloscope made by JyeTech. It's normally sold as a DIY kit but I purchased mine second-hand and preassembled. The scope is not built-in but just sits on top of my synth. It's a great little 9V unit that has a single input and I can run any synth through it to display audio waveforms. I also have a full-size analog scope which has a better image and response but it takes up a lot of room, so this smaller scope comes in handy for general use.
@manwelldocampo4083
@manwelldocampo4083 6 жыл бұрын
What is actually the reference of your JYEtech osciiloscope ?
@boimesa8190
@boimesa8190 5 жыл бұрын
woooooow could you share the CART containing that organ sound :O Great vid btw!! Although i just started getting into FM synthesis, i was still able to comprehend quite a bit because of your vid! Although it would be even better to have a slightly dumbed down version of this for more intermediate synth geeks? Do u know anything about Dexed?? Doing vid around the 30min mark about dexed would be perfect as it is free and so available to anyone interested in learning FM synthesis and perhaps by learning dexed it would be easier to find out if a synth like the DX7 would be the right synth for them :D Great vid and i'm hoping to see more cool vids from ya! Greets from Netherlands :))
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
@Boi Mesa Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad the video wasn't to complex. I have been contemplating a more through series of videos covering other systems including DEXED. Keep an eye out :) Oh and the organ sound is available online somewhere, I think Bobby Blues or Dave Bensons site?
@jonseay8887
@jonseay8887 4 жыл бұрын
where do i get that oscilloscope?
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment 11 ай бұрын
Or wait. Maybe I could mod mine with a tiny oscilloscope like in the monologue?? I love it though.
@NinjaDeathTeddy
@NinjaDeathTeddy 6 жыл бұрын
Also, why did everything in the 80s have such a rad colour scheme?
@TheBeatfox
@TheBeatfox 4 жыл бұрын
Probably to compensate for all the drab earth tones that saturated the '70s. 😂
@andrikpalaciosc
@andrikpalaciosc 4 жыл бұрын
Nice logo
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@chinossynthesizer705
@chinossynthesizer705 4 ай бұрын
I was trying to copy ym2612 fm patches to my kodamo essencefm mk2. i couldn't wrap my head around it the modulator volumes distiort easily.
@Mark-xz8gt
@Mark-xz8gt 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video thank you. I just decided to put my head into FM and so after getting Komplete 13 I decided to give FM8 a spin. My question is on the DX7 algorithm no. 4 I noticed 4 and 6 are joined in a feedback loop. Does this mean 4,5 and 6 are joined in that loop or just 4 and 6. I’m trying to recreate the DX7 algorithms in FM8 so I can follow along with your channel and I also love 80’s 🙏
@madFame
@madFame 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, yes all operators encompassed by the feedback loop are affected in the feedback signal chain. I hope you have fun with FM and hopefully my DX7 tutorials translate easily for you :)
@Mark-xz8gt
@Mark-xz8gt 3 жыл бұрын
@@madFame Thank you sir. Id love to have a DX7 but I have too many keyboards in my space 😂 FM8 will have to do. I’m defo going to be watching your channel as I learn FM. Your teachings on it are very good. 🙏
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. for the branch or root algorithm which algorithm do you recommend for each to start with?
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Algorithm 19 good as it combines a 3-op stack with a 3-op root. Algorithm 27 is a good one to start with for branch.
@ing.rubenaraiza2815
@ing.rubenaraiza2815 7 жыл бұрын
hi. i was using the bank sounds of my cartridge data 1. i lost all these sounds instead i have another because i tried to upload my internal bank. now i don't know how can i get back my data sounds of my cartridge 1
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 6 жыл бұрын
I notice when I look at the DX-7 algorithms that there is a minimum of two operators, I guess there is no such thing as a 6 op stack? Or a 5 op stack with a carrier on the side?
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there. technically there can be any combination of algorithms but the ones we see on many FM synths have been auditioned by the engineers and designers as the most useful algorithms for a wide variety of possibilities. In most cases the ideal number of operators is 3 or 4 as this allows maximum tonal variety. Any more than that only produces distortion and noise which can be achieved with 2 ops and a feedback loop anyway.
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment 11 ай бұрын
Okay dude. I don’t necessarily want to put a hole in my newly self refurbished DX7 but, how do I put a tiny jack in the back so I can plug in an oscilloscope like that?
@madFame
@madFame 11 ай бұрын
My oscilloscope sits on top of my DX7 and its plugged into the headphone jack to receive the audio signal.
@SimonSGB
@SimonSGB Жыл бұрын
You can get saw and square, changing the operators course in root algorhytms, right?
@yarnf
@yarnf Жыл бұрын
Good approximations of them (mathematically not identical but sound pretty much the same)
@emesde
@emesde 3 жыл бұрын
For example the opl3 of yamaha has 8 waveforms and max 4 operators . Does the number of selectable waveforms compensate for having less operators?
@madFame
@madFame 3 жыл бұрын
@emesde Yes, the OPL3 having other waveforms does help to create more complex timbres with less operators and less programming. These 4-operator chips generally have less programming capabilities too, so it's not as sophisticated as the 6-op DX synths in some areas.
@emesde
@emesde 3 жыл бұрын
@@madFame even with 2 op fm can create some good sounds kzbin.info/www/bejne/pouwknalm5WAfM0 ( this one also uses 1 channel ADPCM). I heard once some people said FM operators should only use sine waves . You agree with that?
@easyTarget2000
@easyTarget2000 11 ай бұрын
I'm still trying to fully understand FM synthesis and programming the DX7, so I might be getting something wrong here. Is the statement around 1:40 correct, saying the modulators increase or decrease the sine wave's output level? I thought modulators modulate the frequency or phase of another operator, not its amplitude.
@madFame
@madFame 11 ай бұрын
Every operator produces a sine wave and has an adjustable output level. The effect of Output level is determined by the function of the operator. If an operator is a modulator, increasing its output level affects the strength or amount that it modulates the next operator its connected to (modulation). If an operator is a carrier, changing its output level affects the volume of the sound that's produced (amplitude).
@Hexspa
@Hexspa 6 жыл бұрын
noice
@zebraforceone
@zebraforceone 7 ай бұрын
On the graphic of the algorithms, what does the white outline behind the boxes mean?
@madFame
@madFame 7 ай бұрын
Those represent the feedback loop. Check out a more recent video I made that may provide more information about operators kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbIZmCdiMRnopI
@zebraforceone
@zebraforceone 7 ай бұрын
@@madFame thank you! I'm trying to understand how to copy these in Vital synth
@amonster8mymother
@amonster8mymother 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. What algorythm did you use for the dual carrier stack?
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure which one you mean, carriers can't be stacked. In my video the orange ones are carriers and the blue ones are modulators. Many algorithms have this arrangement. For example, even if the algorithm has 4-ops in a vertical stack you only need to use the bottom 3 operators. The very bottom one is the carrier, the two above it will be modulators.
@tevege3860
@tevege3860 5 жыл бұрын
Try a de-esser, i cant hear you with so many sharp esssssssssses
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
@te vege - yeah sorry man, old video. Check the new videos for de-esser goodness.
@elijahlucian
@elijahlucian 6 жыл бұрын
so at 8:47 you mention that there are waveforms playing magically, but havent really explained why those waveforms are created with the sine waves. did I miss a video?
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, watch this one - Basic Waveforms Tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/goSldnuXrJudr8k
@tobiaslangela2680
@tobiaslangela2680 6 жыл бұрын
First of all: Thank you for your great work! But I am a bit confused about your statement at about 1:40 in this video. The modulator in an FM system is controlling the frequency of the carrier (not the amplitude as you are stating here, that would be AM not FM).
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tobias, thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. You are correct in your interpretation of FM and my explanation is correct but maybe unclear. I was referring to the user increasing and decreasing the Modulators output level and that affects the operator below it. I didn't mention a carrier specifically in this example because a modulator can be connected to another modulator as well. in either case I wasn't implying the modulator affects the carriers amplitude but rather the modulators amplitude affects the operator below it. Thanks for watching, it's great to have you tuning in.
@DiegoAzuaga
@DiegoAzuaga Жыл бұрын
​@@madFame I came here to say the same thing as @Tobias, luckily I first did a search among the previous comments. Thanks for the clarification.​
@OTLCellartapes
@OTLCellartapes 5 жыл бұрын
i just love the DSO - where is it jacked in?
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
@OTL - I take a signal from my DX7 headphone out for the DSO and use the DX7 main out to record audio for the video.
@OTLCellartapes
@OTLCellartapes 5 жыл бұрын
it really adds clarity to see your waves like that
@tenstairs
@tenstairs 5 жыл бұрын
Also it's a JyeTech DSO138
@ELPERRITOENEAS
@ELPERRITOENEAS 6 жыл бұрын
Hi: my DX 7 has all eternal patches in a very very...very low sound. How can I listen well?
@totalrobot
@totalrobot 5 жыл бұрын
Your presets must have been edited/changed. You can always do a Factory Reset with DX7 Rom cartridge #3 to go back to default settings.
@b00i00d
@b00i00d 6 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Just i'm a bit confused on one bit (bare in mind i'm a n00b...): you say at the start that FM synthesis can only produce sine waves yet later on you have a saw etc - I've probably missed some point - could you please clarify? Thanks for this great video series!
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for your question. Regarding the DX7 and sine waves I was only referring to the default waveform that it produces and not its potential to make other waveforms. I highlighted this because most non-FM synthesisers offer more preset waveform shapes by default (sine, square, triangle and saw) without the user having to create those waveforms manually. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
@b00i00d
@b00i00d 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. thanks again!
@MatthewChristianMurray
@MatthewChristianMurray 6 жыл бұрын
Just for the record, he was referring to the DX7, in which all operators are plain sines. Later FM synths offered additionak waveforms. The DX11 is only four-operator as opposed to the DX7's six, but it has multiple waveforms to select from for those operators. My SY77, which uses six-operator FM as well as AWM (sample-based synthesis), has 16 waveforms to choose from in the FM section.
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Correct! Thanks for your comment.
@b00i00d
@b00i00d 6 жыл бұрын
since this discussion got way, cud I ask u guys how the montage compares (in terms of FM and waveforms/operators) and what other synths in production these days would you recommend (always sticking to FM)?
@buckdownscanada9946
@buckdownscanada9946 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid ..I own a dx-7 mk1 and I’ve been on this a week and can’t find a way to make a simple release happen ???? I tweet a nice sound and I’m stuck using my sustain pedal because I can’t find a way to make a little release happen onboard ... anyone reads this drop me a line thanks
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there, Maybe check out my DX7 Envelope programming video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJvCl4BthLOUedk.
@elijahjflowers
@elijahjflowers 4 жыл бұрын
profound
@templarseries
@templarseries 5 жыл бұрын
The DX7 mat have had only sines - but later machines featured more basic waves?
@matroswe
@matroswe 5 жыл бұрын
Later as in?
@RickJohnson
@RickJohnson 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Montage/MODX FM-X engines can do additional waveforms (7 total). Ref: www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/02/05/yamaha-fm-x-synthesis-way-more-powerful-than-a-dx-7/
@obsessive_discipline
@obsessive_discipline 5 жыл бұрын
The TX81z, for instance.
@javiceres
@javiceres 4 жыл бұрын
Mathias Rosén TX81Z, DX11, Reface DX, SY77 and 99 Also PSS-470, 480, 580...
@oskarterlecki5649
@oskarterlecki5649 4 жыл бұрын
Dya recon a dx7 would be a good beginner synth?
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
@Oskar Terlecki - Really good question! If you really love FM sounds and want a classic synth for a good second-hand price, then I would say yes, get a DX7. My videos will help you learn how to program it too. However, the DX7 won't do a lot of the classic subtractive synth sounds like you get from Moog, Oberheim, Sequential Circuits, etc. So if you want those sounds then don't get a DX7. My first synth was a Korg MS2000. I think this is the best beginner synth ever. If you want a mix of Subtractive, Samples, AND FM synthesis then definitely get a Yamaha MODX. It's a bit more money but I think it's worth it.
@oskarterlecki5649
@oskarterlecki5649 4 жыл бұрын
@@madFame thank you so much this helped alot,I'm really looking for a kind of wavey modulated soft warm sound with polyphoney and my two picks were the Korg minilougue XD and the DX7 cuz they sounded amazing and we're in my price range.I was watching alot of videos on the DX7 trying to get a grasp of it and everybody says it's a nightmare and stuff like that
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I think the DX7 is misunderstood and most people just say it sucks because they can't be bothered to learn a new style of synthesis. But if I had to choose a first synth between the DX7 and Minilogue XD, I'd go the XD. It has a similar layout and workflow to the MS2000 I started with and that taught me a lot when I started out.
@oskarterlecki5649
@oskarterlecki5649 4 жыл бұрын
@@madFame Cpol thank you so much,I can't wait to turn my friends into synth heads😁😁
@hermask815
@hermask815 3 жыл бұрын
No. It will be awkward to operate. There are more accessible FM-synths now: Get an Korg opsix : (6 operators ;-) many waveforms 700 $ Korg Volca fm: 6 Operators, sine only, 150$ Yamaha reface dx : 4 operators, sine only, 350$ Megafm : 4 operators, sine only, 555 $ Fm4 app on iPhone/iPad : 4 operators, 8 waveforms Opsix and Volca are compatible to old dx7 patches.
@TheSuperMrG13
@TheSuperMrG13 5 жыл бұрын
what parameter does the modulators wave form modulate in the carrier? thanks
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
In FM synthesis, the modulators output level determines how much its waveform (sine) distorts and modulates the operator below it. It doesn't affect a parameter, it changes the waveform shape of the operator below it. In this case a sine wave is distorted to another complex waveform. This is true if a modulator is connected to another modulator or carrier in an algorithm.
@pawelharutiunow9622
@pawelharutiunow9622 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it changed the frequency (FM = Frequency Modulation)?
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
@paul_arutyunov In FM synthesis, frequency modulation is achieved by increasing a modulators output level into another operator (carrier). Changing the frequency settings (Coarse and Fine) will change the spectral range but it's effects won't be present if the output level is less than 50. The active output level range (in a DX synth) generally occurs between 50 and 99.
@eatfrenzy
@eatfrenzy 5 жыл бұрын
i think the modulator increases or decreases the carrier’s frequency, not it’s level as you said in the video. that would be amplitude modulation not frequency modulation.
@tenstairs
@tenstairs 5 жыл бұрын
@@eatfrenzy Right, it increases and decreases the carrier's frequency at the rate of the modulator's freq setting. It's basically a really fast vibrato, which as it turns out, adds a bunch of spectral characteristics to the carrier wave to create the interesting timbres that you hear.
@iaroslavmelnik6915
@iaroslavmelnik6915 3 жыл бұрын
Did you really mount oscilator screen into dx7?😊
@exquisitearc8498
@exquisitearc8498 5 жыл бұрын
Was the oscilloscope on your DX-7 separately installed or were they all manufactured with an oscilloscope?
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
It's a stand alone digital oscilloscope and it sits on top on my DX7. If you're looking for one it's a JyeTech DSO138.
@exquisitearc8498
@exquisitearc8498 5 жыл бұрын
madFame sweet thanks
@exquisitearc8498
@exquisitearc8498 5 жыл бұрын
madFame is there any way I could message you and ask you a few questions about that oscilloscope?
@exquisitearc8498
@exquisitearc8498 5 жыл бұрын
madFame actually nevermind can I just ask you a few right here on this comment?
@madFame
@madFame 5 жыл бұрын
Sure, what would you like to know?
@puzzledandconfused
@puzzledandconfused 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! The one thing I regret not seeing in videos is the math behind , I believe it could bring some more sense to those algorithms . I had a go at making a software fm synth with a Dspic controller, I ended up with a very simplified form for the algo at 1:53 : Out(t)=AdsrGain1*sin(2*PI*f1*t+AdsrGain2/ModGain*sin(2*PI*f2*t)) Assuming no phase shift between carrier and modulator, sine waves only, and *no feedback*. Anybody else have a go? Thanks for your tutorial :)
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Music, sound and their relationship with mathematics is a fascinating subject. Although my videos demonstrate musical applications of FM synthesis using the DX7, it would be beneficial if someone made a video/series explaining the mathematical nature of FM. Someone should do a full series with John Chowning and David Bristow! Which reminds me, they both wrote a book together called FM Theory & Applications - By Musicians for Musicians. It has some explanation of the mathematical side of FM, although it is simplified. Definitely worth reading if you haven't already.
@puzzledandconfused
@puzzledandconfused 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, this one perhaps? :) www.burnkit2600.com/manuals/fm_theory_and_applications.pdf
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
That's the one, it's a good read
@macronencer
@macronencer 6 жыл бұрын
@im_another_user Thank you for the PDF link. Wonderful! I look forward to reading that.
@ScottWilson542
@ScottWilson542 6 жыл бұрын
Can anybody tell me what the difference is between a modulator and an operator?
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
I can! :) Ok, so an operator is like a control box that has several functions. The main function is producing a sine wave. From here it has other functions to control that sine wave, such as output level, frequency, envelope etc. If you look at the "algorithm type" diagram in my video at 3:07 all of those boxes are operators. The orange operators are Carriers, the blue operators are Modulators. An operator can only be one of these at any one time and this is determined by the algorithm you select. A heavily simplified explanation of this is: Operators in the Carrier position affect volume changes in the sound you're making. Operators in the Modulator position affect the frequency of the waveform shape you're programming.
@danielforro-forrotronics3921
@danielforro-forrotronics3921 6 жыл бұрын
I just watched your video, it's pretty well done! Looking forward to see all of them. Just here your explanation is not quite exact - operators in modulator job affect frequency, and can be used for vibrato (low frequency modulation), but when modulating frequency enters audio range, it affects timbre.
@Swanlord05
@Swanlord05 5 жыл бұрын
Is the sy77 superior to the dx7
@Biophob
@Biophob 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's much more capable.
@WV591
@WV591 5 жыл бұрын
oh yes..in so many ways.realistic acoustic sounds + pure FM with so much more complex algos and routing and feedback options and you can even change shape of feedback and resonance like analog + effects if you need and 8 individual outs.
@thehistoryofchingfordwater8933
@thehistoryofchingfordwater8933 Жыл бұрын
How come tx81z 4 op sounds so much better?
@george_wissenbacher
@george_wissenbacher Жыл бұрын
Because it is the one you have I guess?
@f0kgggle542
@f0kgggle542 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you suddenly get the sawtooth from? This synth has no pulse nor sawtooth oscillators.
@madFame
@madFame 6 жыл бұрын
Hi F0kGggle, I'm glad you found the FM Waveform generation video explaining how to make saw and square waves. Thanks for watching!
@kojik4271
@kojik4271 4 жыл бұрын
holy fuck. thanks! Make me a tron legacy soundtrack please. i would pay big bucks for real
@madFame
@madFame 4 жыл бұрын
@Koji K - I'd love to! I have been toying with the idea of doing a soundtrack for Tron and Fist of the North Star!
@kojik4271
@kojik4271 4 жыл бұрын
@@madFame yoo haha. straight up subbing, cant wait to hear!
@supercrazydogs1312
@supercrazydogs1312 7 жыл бұрын
This thing is a pain to work with but once you got it, it's a monster...
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, although it took me a while to figure out the DX7, once it all fell into place I understood how massive it's potential was. I was surprised how easy the FM synthesis method actually was once I had just a couple of basics sorted out and I gladly let go of wanting it to sound like a subtractive synth too. Hopefully these videos help other users get up and running sooner than it took me. Thanks for watching!
@supercrazydogs1312
@supercrazydogs1312 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome ! Please take time to check out our channel, it's fun ! You have a new suscriber...
@madFame
@madFame 7 жыл бұрын
I love the videos, subscribed! Can't wait to see more :D
@supercrazydogs1312
@supercrazydogs1312 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it's realy nice !
@gastank111
@gastank111 6 жыл бұрын
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